Saturday May 21
7:25 PM
Etihad Stadium
Surely we can't make it 5 in a row, against an undefeated team ?
North looked a bit shaky in the last quarter yesterday.
Do we "Dare to dream"?
Logic says they'll be too strong...but it's an illogical game...and it's hard to maintain long winning streaks.
Even so I'll be happy if we give them a huge fright. ;)
North looked a bit shaky in the last quarter yesterday.
Do we "Dare to dream"?
Logic says they'll be too strong...but it's an illogical game...and it's hard to maintain long winning streaks.
Even so I'll be happy if we give them a huge fright. ;)
Weeters back next week, supposedly - but their forward line is a big worry. It will require going above and beyond by our defenders and mids to ensure they have minimal F50 entries.
Weitering, Jaksch in for Casboult and Jammo. Cripps probably and out so Graham.
Rowe on Brown, Weitering on Petrie and Plowman for Waite.
Weitering, Jaksch in for Casboult and Jammo. Cripps probably and out so Graham.
Rowe on Brown, Weitering on Petrie and Plowman for Waite.
Maybe Kruezer might need some help.....Goldstein is a step up from Trengrove....more of a staircase.....pity Philips isnt available...
Had a crazy thought to promote Korchek....just tell him to run into a few Nth players..Lindsay Thomas and Jarrod Waite are two that come to mind...
6 day turnaround doesn't help. They'll look at Simon White and Dylan B as well.
Has Jaksch done enough to be rewarded a role in the firsts?
Maybe Kruezer might need some help.....Goldstein is a step up from Trengrove....more of a staircase.....pity Philips isnt available...
Had a crazy thought to promote Korchek....just tell him to run into a few Nth players..Lindsay Thomas and Jarrod Waite are two that come to mind...
You're a nasty man EB...and I love you're thinking. ;)
6 day turnaround doesn't help. They'll look at Simon White and Dylan B as well.
Has Jaksch done enough to be rewarded a role in the firsts?
Nth are a very tall team and have added Daw to their lineup in recent times..Jamo is out of form, Weitering I would hold over for another week...
Jaksch has probably been ok in a very brittle NB's team without being great but this is his chance to step back into senior footy...Liam Jones embraced the challenge
so I reckon KJ needs to show he has some character and do the same..
Gotta bring in White and Jaksch to help out with our 'talls' against North.
You're a nasty man EB...and I love you're thinking. ;)
GTC..there is that element of nastiness that makes me think about Korchek and a hatred for Lindsay sniper Thomas but also the only times I have seen Goldstein struggle have been vs opponents who have some aggression in their style of play...MKvs TG will be a battle of skills only and you would favour the Nth man to come out on top...Rowe will get smashed if he rucks..
5-7 mins a quarter from the awkward raw Korchek going full bore might throw TG out..Max Gawn really worried TG and even though TG went forward and kicked goals I thought Gawn smashed him in the ruck by being awkward and physical....Goldstein avoided body contact and looked uncomfortable IMO.
Mason Cox while more advanced that Korchek has given Collingwood something and I just reckon while we are on a roll I'd be prepared to roll the dice and be inventive...
Gotta bring in White and Jaksch to help out with our 'talls' against North.
Thinking Weitering and Jaksch.
Omen.....
Last time North started 8-0, in 1978, they played Carlton, who were 3-5, in round 9. We pumped them by 10 goals!
North is vulnerable and more than "due" for a loss.
Thinking Weitering and Jaksch.
I'm thinking Weitering and White. :P
I'm thinking Weitering and White. :P
For me Jaksch given North's height up forward.
I hope our medicos can pull off some miracles, but I fear we may lose Casboult, Cripps, Kreuzer, maybe Byrne and maybe Plowman. If that is the case, then we are seriously screwed.
Jaksch has probably done enough to get a recall, but that is stretching things somewhat. But someone has to play forward.
White is a very high probability to come back.
Weitering is a possible, but no certainty. we are better with him, that is clear.
Graham is the logical replacement for Cripps.
Not sure we have a replacement of any sort for Kreuzer if he doesn't come up. Wood, Phillips and Gorringe were all missing yesterday and are not high probabilities to play. Korchek isn't ready yet. Next year maybe.
That sounds so down after such a good effort today. However, I do not think North are unbeatable. They were rubbish for almost a half against Essendon, who are rubbish.
Graham is the logical replacement for Cripps.
(In my best Lurch voice): Urrrrrrrggggggghhhhh!
Thinking Weitering and Jaksch.
I know Andy Mac said test for this week, but on the same page that shows that video no the club website - injury - it shows him listed as 2-3 weeks.
SO i'm not expecting Weiters back this week.
(In my best Lurch voice): Urrrrrrrggggggghhhhh!
Great comment!
I know Andy Mac said test for this week, but on the same page that shows that video no the club website - injury - it shows him listed as 2-3 weeks.
SO i'm not expecting Weiters back this week.
Weitering is indeed doubtful IMO so I agree that White and Jaksch will likely come in. Hopefully no other outs as we will definitely have our hands full but "yer never know!" Only a 6 day break but today's game would have surely whetted appetites and strengthened belief? >:D
@ Kruddler
I remember the Ratten Objectives Thread...
Last time see on 5 in a row 2001?
I know Andy Mac said test for this week, but on the same page that shows that video no the club website - injury - it shows him listed as 2-3 weeks.
SO i'm not expecting Weiters back this week.
BB said he's very close, if not this week against Norf, definitely next week.
@ Kruddler
I remember the Ratten Objectives Thread...
Last time see on 5 in a row 2001?
Wow. Been a while... is there a Bolton objectives thread?
If memory serves me correct, the 'North Melbourne end' @ Etihad for their home games is the Lockett end (i.e. the end to the left of screen on TV)....reason I ask is that I wanna reserve seats & they're mostly available down the Coventry end.....don't wanna book seats anywhere near the North throng. So, if anyone can confirm which end our cheersquad will be sitting, that'd be great....
If memory serves me correct, the 'North Melbourne end' @ Etihad for their home games is the Lockett end (i.e. the end to the left of screen on TV)....reason I ask is that I wanna reserve seats & they're mostly available down the Coventry end.....don't wanna book seats anywhere near the North throng. So, if anyone can confirm which end our cheersquad will be sitting, that'd be great....
Just watched highlights of their last game and their home end is the same as our home end. So book your tickets to the right of screen, Southern Cross station side.
Hope a lot of you guys go to this game and take your friends and family.
I know it's not a home game, but I can't believe we can't get a good crowd there.
Hope a lot of you guys go to this game and take your friends and family.
I know it's not a home game, but I can't believe we can't get a good crowd there.
Got my ticket. :)
Got my ticket. :)
Good man!!!!!!
I think away from Goldstein, Waite, Tarrant, Thompson and Petrie the Norps smalls are a little open for the taking.
I'd be letting Ziebel get first use of the ball early then dumping him at every opportunity repeatedly. Get some of that similar tackling working against Nahas, Thomas, Jacobs, McDonald, Cunnington, Swallow and Harvey and you go a long way to defeating Norp. People are too focused on their talls, but to me it's Norp's on-ball brigade who tackle hard, run and spread well that are the engine for their success.
I'd play most of them like you should play Dawk's Mitchell, get body contact and push him into the traffic, then dump him with every disposal he gets.
I think it would be a big mistake for us to bring in Buckley, Tutt or any other similarly "softer" outside ball user. Norp feed on that type, they intimidate them by letting them get first use of the ball then dumping them in tackles. Both Scott coached teams do the same thing. Isolate the person with the ball then hurt them, their core group are Vultures. Best way to deal with it is turn the tables, Vultures like feeding on the defenseless dead, bite back and they'll stand back and wait for someone else to do the kill.
Norp might be ripe for the picking this week, their form line isn't so stellar, if we are fit Carlton by 4!
I think away from Goldstein, Waite, Tarrant, Thompson and Petrie the Norps smalls are a little open for the taking.
I'd be letting Ziebel get first use of the ball early then dumping him at every opportunity repeatedly. Get some of that similar tackling working against Nahas, Thomas, Jacobs, McDonald, Cunnington, Swallow and Harvey and you go a long way to defeating Norp. People are too focused on their talls, but to me it's Norp's on-ball brigade who tackle hard, run and spread well that are the engine for their success.
I'd play most of them like you should play Dawk's Mitchell, get body contact and push him into the traffic, then dump him with every disposal he gets.
I think it would be a big mistake for us to bring in Buckley, Tutt or any other similarly "softer" outside ball user. Norp feed on that type, they intimidate them by letting them get first use of the ball then dumping them in tackles. Both Scott coached teams do the same thing. Isolate the person with the ball then hurt them, their core group are Vultures. Best way to deal with it is turn the tables, Vultures like feeding on the defenseless dead, bite back and they'll stand back and wait for someone else to do the kill.
Norp might be ripe for the picking this week, their form line isn't so stellar, if we are fit Carlton by 4!
Cant disagree with any of that. This may sound crazy but I would send Jamo to Waite. I dont think they ever liked each other much so I reckon Jamo can give him a hard time and unsettle him. It doesn't take much to do this with Waitey so may be worth a shot.
Got my ticket. :)
Getting mine tomorrow. Being going from the NBs game to Etihad...
This may sound crazy but I would send Jamo to Waite.
I couldn't think of a worse match up for Jamison.
They say you often play the following week the way you finish off a game.
North 2.8 in the second half, 0.4 in the last quarter....
We're a monty!
They say you often play the following week the way you finish off a game.
North 2.8 in the second half, 0.4 in the last quarter....
We're a monty!
I reckon there's a certain amount of truth in that. But perhaps it should be offset against that phenomena in which teams that prevail in emotion charged circumstances week after week usually come crashing back to earth with an almighty thud (lop-sided GF's anyone?).
Having said that, there's something different about this Carlton team. Even at 17 points down with 10 mins to go I still thought, maybe ... just maybe.
I reckon there's a certain amount of truth in that. But perhaps it should be offset against that phenomena in which teams that prevail in emotion charged circumstances week after week usually come crashing back to earth with an almighty thud (lop-sided GF's anyone?).
Having said that, there's something different about this Carlton team. Even at 17 points down with 10 mins to go I still thought, maybe ... just maybe.
Resolve and belief!
when are we going to stop that long bomb to fwd line,ess showed how to beat roos and that is to run run
I couldn't think of a worse match up for Jamison.
Well Brown or Petrie would monster him. Waite and Jamison are at least similar height and weight. Waite isn't as quick and mobile as he used to be, I just think Jamo can unsettle him with niggle.
Not sure that Jammo can run with a fit Waite.
Traditionally Norp isn't a good one for Jammo, but he's not on his Pat Malone in that regard.
I think Jammo stands Daw.
If Cripps is borderline to play on-ball, could he get a run as a KPD? If he is fit it's bad news for Norp as he played very well against them in the past, others who like playing Norp are Daisy, Tuohy, Kerridge, Everitt and Armfield.
bookies.
North 1.25
Blues 3.90
I reckon Plowman on Waite, Rowe on Petrie and Jamo to cover Brown.
Kreuzer Out!
Kreuzer Out!
Crap news.
North by 6 goals.
Who will ruck ???? maybe Gorringe ,Wood or Korchek ( no Phillips no Kreuzer). :'(
Who will ruck ???? maybe Gorringe ,Wood or Korchek ( no Phillips no Kreuzer). :'(
Rumor is Wood gets a rookie spot for Casboult being LTI.
Kruze out not the end of the world, the clever coaching staff just have to figure out a way to drag them down to our level.
Believe and win ugly.
LLLLWWWWW
Go Blues
Hope a lot of you guys go to this game and take your friends and family.
I know it's not a home game, but I can't believe we can't get a good crowd there.
I'm going too, I've just recently moved back to Victoria after being away for 17 years!
This will be my 1st game ever at Etihad stadium, A North supporting friend has booked tickets for me, so I'm hoping I don't end up in the middle of their cheer squad!
Kreuzer going down is bad news, book Kerridge in for a 6 goal haul !!
Don't think we can afford Rowe to ruck with North's tall fwds to cover?
Based on the winning form of the past month coupled with the self-belief and will-to-win amongst the playing group, if we had a full list to choose from, we'd be a slim chance to knock over the Kangas this week.
With so many important players now out through injury, all we can ask for is another desperate effort and make them earn their win.
Don't think we can afford Rowe to ruck with North's tall fwds to cover?
Yep, I'd bring Wood or set Gorringe a challenge.
bookies.
North 1.25
Blues 3.90
That's about right.
North went to sleep against Essendon but make no mistake they are a very good side and Wells will be back this week.
Top 4 the last two years and 8 zip so far this year, it isn't a fluke.
All I want is a good showing from the boys, 100% effort from go to whoa.
Yep, I'd bring Wood or set Gorringe a challenge.
It will be interesting to see if either Wood or Gorringe is fit. Against Geelong we have a fair chance of having Phillips available. But this weekend our ruckman could be?????
It will be interesting to see if either Wood or Gorringe is fit. Against Geelong we have a fair chance of having Phillips available. But this weekend our ruckman could be?????
I don't think either played last match for Northern? If not them, who? Rowe backed up by Jones? Lucky we are only up against the reigning AA ruckman or they might have their hands full. Seriously, who else???? Could we upgrade Korchek if we wanted to or is he in wrong category of rookie - not that I am advocating that even if it was possible. And I don't think we have a spot to elevate anyone anyway (Byrne having been elevated and there being no long-term injury listers as far as I am aware), or am I wrong?
I guess we just rove to a losing ruck.
Don't think we can afford Rowe to ruck with North's tall fwds to cover?
Jaksch, Weitering, Plowman?
Anyway now with Kreuzer out if we have no other rukman, Jammo might stay in, Hopefully Weitering comes in, if not White, and Jaksch will have to come in and go forward while Rowe and Jones ruck. Hoping Wood is fit as he's gone well in the seniors.
Jaksch, Weitering, Plowman?
Anyway now with Kreuzer out if we have no other rukman, Jammo might stay in, Hopefully Weitering comes in, if not White, and Jaksch will have to come in and go forward while Rowe and Jones ruck. Hoping Wood is fit as he's gone well in the seniors.
Jim we have to cover Waite, Petrie and Brown, a pretty dangerous combo IMO. I personally would greatly prefer to see Rowe in our defence for this one, whoever else is in there for us. I don't like robbing Peter to pay Paul, we could end up with the worst of all worlds where we get killed in the ruck and in defence.
Jim we have to cover Waite, Petrie and Brown, a pretty dangerous combo IMO. I personally would greatly prefer to see Rowe in our defence for this one, whoever else is in there for us. I don't like robbing Peter to pay Paul, we could end up with the worst of all worlds where we get killed in the ruck and in defence.
Don't care, let them cover us and the extra player running off them. Too much worrying about them and not thinking of exploiting them. Remember a few years ago, 2010 I think, we played Geelong with Mooney, Hawkins and Podsiasdly in the same team. We didn't change our make mup to suit them. In stead Walker had a picnic in defence running off them and we belted them. Called playing to your own strengths.
If we have no other ruckmen then Rowe HAS to ruck. Even if Wood plays we need a 2nd ruck. No ifs or buts there either.
Team Defense is what we do now. Dosesn't matter who plays who. Bring in the best most in form player from the NB's to cover injuries. Play them into the system, build our depth. W's are fun, Flags are forever!
Go Baggers!
North might even give Goldstein the week off now.
Don't think this team can afford too many injuries and not liking what I hear from Gorringe. Agree with laj Rowe has to ruck and bring in Jaksch to play forward & Weitering if fit to play in the backline. Rowie will need to play all game in the ruck against Goldstein and will get 100 hit outs. Just need to keep doing what we are doing not doubting Boltons talents one iota and pull a rabbit out of the hat
Don't care, let them cover us and the extra player running off them. Too much worrying about them and not thinking of exploiting them. Remember a few years ago, 2010 I think, we played Geelong with Mooney, Hawkins and Podsiasdly in the same team. We didn't change our make mup to suit them. In stead Walker had a picnic in defence running off them and we belted them. Called playing to your own strengths.
If we have no other ruckmen then Rowe HAS to ruck. Even if Wood plays we need a 2nd ruck. No ifs or buts there either.
Yes master! :))
North might even give Goldstein the week off now.
Don't think Brad Scott gives charity donations to other AFL clubs mate. Goldy will probably be the first one selected. :)
Don't think Brad Scott gives charity donations to other AFL clubs mate. Goldy will probably be the first one selected. :)
I hope he is ...we want to meet them a their best. More learning.
Yes master! :))
Good to see you know your place...lol!
Can we put 4 midfielders in the centre square, ruck no-one and let Goldstein jump on his own. Then he'd have to tap it to and outnumbered centre square brigade.
Joking of course but wonder if anyone has thought of that before.
I hope he is ...we want to meet them a their best. More learning.
I've already learned that he is the best ruckman in the game, so I'm all for them resting big Goldy so he can be right for North's tough draw ahead.
I've already learned that he is the best ruckman in the game, so I'm all for them resting big Goldy so he can be right for North's tough draw ahead.
Giving the likely ruck combos that we can arrange, Goldy playing against such a make shift set up would probably constitute a week off anyway.
Put Cripps in the ruck, he can do just about everything else? :o
Wood in for Kreuzer, Gorringe in for Casboult (and as 2nd ruck), Rowe back to CHB.
As good a job as Rowe did as a relief forward and ruck, there is no way I would plan to start him in either of those positions, especially with North's tall forward line to contend with.
Here is a chance for some of our depth players to step up. If they don't or can't there may not be a spot for them on our list at the end of the year...
Good to see you know your place...lol!
Mate you can't debate a brick wall. ;)
Wood in for Kreuzer, Gorringe in for Casboult (and as 2nd ruck), Rowe back to CHB.
As good a job as Rowe did as a relief forward and ruck, there is no way I would plan to start him in either of those positions, especially with North's tall forward line to contend with.
Here is a chance for some of our depth players to step up. If they don't or can't there may not be a spot for them on our list at the end of the year...
Don't worry about North's tall forwards, let them worry about our strengths. If they're tall you can run off them, which is what we can do. Plenty we can play in defence...Jammo, Jakch, White, Plowman, and that's only if Weitering isn't ready. So no great problem. Prefer Rowe replacing Casboult.
Wow. Been a while... is there a Bolton objectives thread?
There is now...
http://www.carltonsc.com/index.php?topic=2908.new#new
There is now...
http://www.carltonsc.com/index.php?topic=2908.new#new
:)
Now all we need is a fit ruckman and who knows how many more we can tick off?
:)
Now all we need is a fit ruckman and who knows how many more we can tick off?
Who's likely to be availabe this week Crash?
Second ruck one of (in order) Wood, Gorringe, Korchek
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@GTC
Ouch! That defence looks a little shakey GTC. Could we rob the ruck to shore it up a bit? ;)
@GTC
Ouch! That defence looks a little shakey GTC. Could we rob the ruck to shore it up a bit? ;)
Put Rowe back there and play Wood/Gorringe? Probably. Gonna be tough at the selection table no matter how you look at it. I guess if Weiters is ready, he comes straight in.
Put Rowe back there and play Wood/Gorringe? Probably. Gonna be tough at the selection table no matter how you look at it. I guess if Weiters is ready, he comes straight in.
Yep, selection will be interesting alright and I'm awaiting with anticipation. Hopefully Weiters will indeed be back which will make life a bit better. I think Rowe will probably have to spend some time rucking but I don't like the idea of him as 1st ruck.
I think Levi's debut was in a similar ruck crisis situation in 2012 when both Kreuzer and Warnock were injured.
If Gorringe in available, pick him, if he's still injured, pick Wood.
Probably way early, but if we concede that we re probably going to get smashed in the ruck anyway, an the two guys mentioned above aren't available, would it be worth even considering the young American dude Korchek just so there's a big body to compete against Goldstein, and jus tell our mids to rove to Goldy's taps.
We need Rowe down back due to North's triple pronged attack of Petrie, Waite and Brown
Gorringe may be our only option in the ruck.
Wood has been injured and is a rookie. I am not sure we have a LTI vacancy on the senior list to upgrade him.
Hmm, rucking Rowe is sacrificing three positions, CHB, CHF and the Ruck.
Perhaps the best deal is to rotate all three remaining talls through the ruck heavily, and leave Goldstein without a set opponent to be never quite sure what he will be up against.
Otherwise, bring the big American in and let him tag Goldstein to hell! Probably a loss, but it will be a great learning experience and it's unlikely to affect our 4 goal win! :D
Hmm, rucking Rowe is sacrificing three positions, CHB, CHF and the Ruck.
Perhaps the best deal is to rotate all three remaining talls through the ruck heavily, and leave Goldstein without a set opponent to be never quite sure what he will be up against.
Otherwise, bring the big American in and let him tag Goldstein to hell! Probably a loss, but it will be a great learning experience and it's unlikely to affect our 4 goal win! :D
The American is a rookie and can't come in!
The American is a rookie and can't come in!
That's a pity, could have been interesting seeing him out there giving Goldy a bit of attention. :)
Heard on the news last night Crippa was scanned and cleared of any major knee issues. Still must be some doubt considering he was scanned and didn't seem right walking on the vision I saw.
Has'nt been mentioned much in the media or on here but he is leading the AFL in clearances and missed a match as well. Not bad for a player who just notched up he's 30th game! And I think he has been limited with his knee all year.
Also on twitter Waite was having a scan as well. He is one player I would love to not have to contain.
Considering the odds against us getting a win this week is it worth resting a few in partiuclar Cripps and give Weiters at least one more weeks off.
We have 2 very winnable games after North and Geelong would prefer to play the kids in the next 2 and rest all those not 100% so we go into the winnable games as healthy as we can.
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I think Levi's debut was in a similar ruck crisis situation in 2012 when both Kreuzer and Warnock were injured.
If Gorringe in available, pick him, if he's still injured, pick Wood.
Probably way early, but if we concede that we re probably going to get smashed in the ruck anyway, an the two guys mentioned above aren't available, would it be worth even considering the young American dude Korchek just so there's a big body to compete against Goldstein, and jus tell our mids to rove to Goldy's taps.
We need Rowe down back due to North's triple pronged attack of Petrie, Waite and Brown
Plenty of players to bring in to play in defence. Rowe will be very, very badly needed elsewhere. Jammo, Jaksch and Plowman, or even White can play in defence. A smaller player in defence can exploit North's triple pronged tall attack and run off them if we wanted to go that way. Let them worry about us. If Wood is fit then Rowe will play Casboult's old role. If he's not he'll get to play against the game's premier ruckman. Rove to Goldstein as you can still win the clearances.
@GTC
Ouch! That defence looks a little shakey GTC. Could we rob the ruck to shore it up a bit? ;)
We have nothing to rob in the ruck. That defence looks ok to me. White and Plowman will be ok, Jammo's a worry because of his body hence his form but that's been the case for a few weeks. Our defence as a team has been as good as any and functioned pretty well with Dixon and Westoff there last week while Rowe went forward/rucked. Can always put Jaksch back there. He marks as well as anyone, and can be shunted forward at anytime.
I wouldn't be resting Cripps.
I know its hard to say as North are still unbeaten, but they haven't been playing absolutely out of this world football.
If we can break even or even with the midfield battle, and get our forward defensive wall going, we re a chance to sneak this one.
The media have gone nuts about us since Sunday, so hope Bolts and the boys have their feet still planted firmly on the Ikon Park turf.
Win this, and we ll absolutely shock the competition.
I wouldn't be resting Cripps.
I know its hard to say as North are still unbeaten, but they haven't been playing absolutely out of this world football.
If we can break even or even with the midfield battle, and get our forward defensive wall going, we re a chance to sneak this one.
The media have gone nuts about us since Sunday, so hope Bolts and the boys have their feet still planted firmly on the Ikon Park turf.
Win this, and we ll absolutely shock the competition.
Agree, it would be a massive statement and I reckon Bolts is just itching to make it! Can't wait for the game, I reckon the boys will be desperate - maybe we ain't seen nothin' yet?
Out - Casboult, Kreuzer
In - Gorringe, Jaksch
I absolutely think we can win this.
Our set-ups and structures allow us to win plenty of contested ball, we lock it in the forward line and I think our defence can handle Norf's talls.
They are just going and as each week goes, pressure builds on being undefeated.
I absolutely think we can win this.
Our set-ups and structures allow us to win plenty of contested ball, we lock it in the forward line and I think our defence can handle Norf's talls.
They are just going and as each week goes, pressure builds on being undefeated.
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I absolutely think we can win this.
Our set-ups and structures allow us to win plenty of contested ball, we lock it in the forward line and I think our defence can handle Norf's talls.
They are just going and as each week goes, pressure builds on being undefeated.
I like your optimism, but I reckon our run will end this week. North are a cut above our recent opposition, and with our injuries, we'll be scrambling just to get a decent team on the park.
If North actually bother to play half decently, they will win. I'm sure one half of the Kray Twins would've have put a rocket up everyone's clacker - they will be switched on and on notice.
Blue4life has a point - top 4 in consecutive seasons, 8-0 is no fluke. I know they're due for a tumble, but not against us I'm afraid.
None of which is any way a criticism of our boys.
I like your optimism, but I reckon our run will end this week. North are a cut above our recent opposition, and with our injuries, we'll be scrambling just to get a decent team on the park.
If North actually bother to play half decently, they will win. I'm sure one half of the Kray Twins would've have put a rocket up everyone's clacker - they will be switched on and on notice.
Blue4life has a point - top 4 in consecutive seasons, 8-0 is no fluke. I know they're due for a tumble, but not against us I'm afraid.
None of which is any way a criticism of our boys.
Yeah, I'm in the same boat. We've been decimated injury wise in one game & with Weit & Phillips still out, we'll struggle. Just a matter of cattle.
Had to be this one didn't it, jeez I'd have loved to stick it to Waite & Petrie & Thomas, & Scott Thompson and.....heck, I really don't like these any of these jokers at all !
I absolutely think we can win this.
Our set-ups and structures allow us to win plenty of contested ball, we lock it in the forward line and I think our defence can handle Norf's talls.
They are just going and as each week goes, pressure builds on being undefeated.
Wish I could agree but logic says otherwise.
Jamo looked out at sea against both Dixon and Westoff and with Rowe needed up forward or pinch hitting in the ruck our defence will be up against it. North has Waite, Petrie and Brown as their key talls who all work hard up the ground and are smart in finding space and not flying for the same ball. Then add in that piece of sh1t Thomas plus Harvey even though he's nearly 60 he usually gets on the end of a few against us. Just look too small down back to hold them and without Krueze at least providing a contest against probably the best ruckmen in the comp they will get enough entries to kick a big score.
Then again maybe I will be surprised for the 5th consecutive week. ;D ;)
Yes, I think of Leigh Matthews' famous quote after his last game, the 85 Grand Final - he said "It was a bit like fighting a war without weapons. "
I'm with Shades, I think we can win. Why? Just because of what I have seen thus far from our boys. "Its the vibe". One of the two streaks will come to an end this week, I reckon our fellas are keen to maintain ours and will leave nothing on the ground trying. And if we do win? To quote the Bristle:
"Boy-o-boy".
Heart says we can have a go, head says , we were struggling to match up before the last few injuries. So will be a tough fit. I know one thing if Jaksch doesn't play , then his cards might already be marked.
I'm with Shades, I think we can win. Why? Just because of what I have seen thus far from our boys. "Its the vibe". One of the two streaks will come to an end this week, I reckon our fellas are keen to maintain ours and will leave nothing on the ground trying. And if we do win? To quote the Bristle:
"Boy-o-boy".
It's a sat night game GTC so we could have BT commentating !!!
Funny thing is my kids love BT commentated games because they just parrot his nonesense and laugh their heads off
Makes a great night in!!
It's a sat night game GTC so we could have BT commentating !!!
Funny thing is my kids love BT commentated games because they just parrot his nonesense and laugh their heads off
Makes a great night in!!
Lol. I find him extremely annoying TBH. About as annoying as REx Hunt used to be.
some boys sound really sore and some players like Kerridge output is dropping off... byrne and crippa are sore
some boys sound really sore and some players like Kerridge output is dropping off... byrne and crippa are sore
Crikey, i was sore at the end of that game! :o
Heart says we can have a go, head says , we were struggling to match up before the last few injuries. So will be a tough fit. I know one thing if Jaksch doesn't play , then his cards might already be marked.
Agree on both points
some boys sound really sore and some players like Kerridge output is dropping off... byrne and crippa are sore
True but they all pushed through and did well. Why? Because BB is teaching them to ENDURE.
I'm usually a bit of a pessimist but I don't think we're going into this game with no chance.
There is some real steel in our team that is still catching opponents out. They haven't quite worked out how to take us yet and our guys are definitely playing better now that we have the more experienced guys back in the team.
The ins this week will probably be a combination of White / Wood / Gorringe / Jacksch. Some experience on that list.
Lol. I find him extremely annoying TBH. About as annoying as REx Hunt used to be.
x2
It's a sat night game GTC so we could have BT commentating !!!
Funny thing is my kids love BT commentated games because they just parrot his nonesense and laugh their heads off
Makes a great night in!!
I'm assuming the kids are still quite young CIMM?
North are very gettable, as they ve been just going the past few weeks, and only limped over the line against both Saints and Drug Cheats.
They tend to fade out late in games, so if we stick within a reasonable margin of them in the first 3 quarters, we re a big chance of running over the top of them in the last term.
We ve got the pressure game that could trouble them.
Time for Bolton to show us what he is made of.
We can either attempt to beat North at their own game, that is try and find matchups for all their talls at a time where we are extremely light on for talls.
OR
We can forge our own path and go deliberately small and try and exploit North by running away from them.
Back ourselves in to win the ball through the middle....to run, tackle, chase, harrass and generally outwork them.
Given our personnel, if they get the ball into their forward line, they win.
If they cannot get the ball into their forwardline, we win.
Try to win the game out of the middle, put our best team out there that allows us to do that. Choose our best runners/users to win us this game.
Norf injury list:
Lachlan Hansen (concussion) – test
Daniel Wells (leg) – test
Mason Wood (concussion) – test
Sam Wright (ankle) – test
Mitchell Hibberd (knee) – 1-2 weeks
Jed Anderson (hamstring) – 1-3 weeks
Taylor Garner (hamstring) – 2-3 weeks
Kayne Turner (hamstring) – 3-4 weeks
Shaun Higgins (knee) – 11 weeks
Last updated: May 18
I think that the 'top heaviness' of North last week played against them in the finish. I'd be surprised if they went in with Daw, Petrie, Waite and Buckley, but I'd also be delighted because I think they can be exposed.
I would like to see Cripps rested. He's still young and we don't want knee soreness to turn into a degenerative condition.
Norf injury list:
Lachlan Hansen (concussion) – test
Daniel Wells (leg) – test
Mason Wood (concussion) – test
Sam Wright (ankle) – test
Mitchell Hibberd (knee) – 1-2 weeks
Jed Anderson (hamstring) – 1-3 weeks
Taylor Garner (hamstring) – 2-3 weeks
Kayne Turner (hamstring) – 3-4 weeks
Shaun Higgins (knee) – 11 weeks
Last updated: May 18
Sen just reported Wells certain to miss this week. Would love if the whispers about Waite are on the money and he misses too. Surely he's due for a rest. ???
Sen just reported Wells certain to miss this week. Would love if the whispers about Waite are on the money and he misses too. Surely he's due for a rest. ???
I want Waite to play and do a hammie in the first 10 minutes like he used to with us.
I want him to play and do a hammie in the first 10 minutes like he used to with us.
Just heard Scott talking. Well still out 1-2 weeks....
Wells is a big out for them.
Having his class in the side has made a huge difference to them this year.
Time for Bolton to show us what he is made of.
We can either attempt to beat North at their own game, that is try and find matchups for all their talls at a time where we are extremely light on for talls.
OR
We can forge our own path and go deliberately small and try and exploit North by running away from them.
Back ourselves in to win the ball through the middle....to run, tackle, chase, harrass and generally outwork them.
Given our personnel, if they get the ball into their forward line, they win.
If they cannot get the ball into their forwardline, we win.
Try to win the game out of the middle, put our best team out there that allows us to do that. Choose our best runners/users to win us this game.
I agree. They'll go tall so focus on running off them. Go with our strengths rather than match there's as that may not suit us hence screw us up. Let's then worry about us rather than us worrying about them.
Time for Bolton to show us what he is made of.
We can either attempt to beat North at their own game, that is try and find matchups for all their talls at a time where we are extremely light on for talls.
OR
We can forge our own path and go deliberately small and try and exploit North by running away from them.
Back ourselves in to win the ball through the middle....to run, tackle, chase, harrass and generally outwork them.
Given our personnel, if they get the ball into their forward line, they win.
If they cannot get the ball into their forwardline, we win.
Try to win the game out of the middle, put our best team out there that allows us to do that. Choose our best runners/users to win us this game.
Bolton has already shown us what he's made of...
Don't see any reason to doubt his ability to select the best side and the best way to play Norf.
Doesn't mean we will win but every week we've shown more and more composure and resilience.
Remember, we've almost lost every one of the last 4 games but we have learnt to endure. That's been our biggest improvement and why Bolts has already shown us his worth.
Bolton has already shown us what he's made of...
Beat me to it ;)
Doesn't mean we will win but every week we've shown more and more composure and resilience.
This^ and our skills are getting better too.
Wells is a big out for them.
Having his class in the side has made a huge difference to them this year.
You can add Shaun Higgins to Wells....had a great year in 2015 and started well this season....we are a sneaky chance if Cripps is ok to play..
Nth were coasting in the 2nd half vs Essendon and may just be getting ahead of themselves...
You can add Shaun Higgins to Wells....had a great year in 2015 and started well this season....we are a sneaky chance if Cripps is ok to play..
Nth were coasting in the 2nd half vs Essendon and may just be getting ahead of themselves...
I hope we aren't getting ahead of ourselves ???
I hope we aren't getting ahead of ourselves ???
To early for a top 4 thread?
Would really have preferred this game to have been at the G.
Carlton's team to take on North Melbourne:
Backs 38. Ciaran Byrne 43. Simon White 23. Jacob Weitering
Half-backs 15. Sam Docherty 20. Lachie Plowman 42. Zach Tuohy
Centreline 13. Jed Lamb 9. Patrick Cripps 27. Dennis Armfield
Half-forwards 39. Dale Thomas 14. Liam Jones 46. Matthew Wright
Forwards 33. Andrejs Everitt 17. Sam Rowe 35. Ed Curnow
Followers 37. Daniel Gorringe 4. Bryce Gibbs 3. Marc Murphy (C)
Interchange 6. Kade Simpson 11. Sam Kerridge 1. Andrew Walker
19. Liam Sumner
Emergencies 32. Nick Graham 12. Blaine Boekhorst 36. Cameron Wood
In: White, Gorringe, Weitering
Out: Michael Jamison (illness), Matthew Kreuzer (knee), Levi Casboult (leg)
New: Gorringe (Gold Coast Suns)
The Weitersman is back along with White and Orange! ;)
Gorringe will have his work cut out in his first game. In fact, the entire team will have a huge challenge to be competitive.
It's interesting that Wood is an emergency. Does that mean he's been upgraded in place of Charlie Curnow?
Meanwhile, Cameron Wood has been elevated from the rookie list as the replacement for Harry McKay, who was previously placed on the club’s long-term injury list.
from CFC website
Gorringe will have his work cut out in his first game. In fact, the entire team will have a huge challenge to be competitive.
It's interesting that Wood is an emergency. Does that mean he's been upgraded in place of Charlie Curnow?
McKay was placed on LTI when he was first injured. Curnow is at the club on light duties but not sure when he will be fit again. Could be two weeks could be two months no one knows but is improving.
We have to keep the ball away from their forward line so a high intensity mid field effort from us will be paramount. If Wood is the emergency I wonder if Gorringe is under some doubt?
prefer wood to gorringe to be honest but he might surprise
Nothing like being thrown in the deep end, we'll quickly find out if he will sink or swim.
The Weitersman is back along with White and Orange! ;)
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Charlie could have glandular fever for years...it's the most energy sapping virus...
Carlton's team to take on North Melbourne:
Backs 38. Ciaran Byrne 43. Simon White 23. Jacob Weitering
Half-backs 15. Sam Docherty 20. Lachie Plowman 42. Zach Tuohy
Centreline 13. Jed Lamb 9. Patrick Cripps 27. Dennis Armfield
Half-forwards 39. Dale Thomas 14. Liam Jones 46. Matthew Wright
Forwards 33. Andrejs Everitt 17. Sam Rowe 35. Ed Curnow
Followers 37. Daniel Gorringe 4. Bryce Gibbs 3. Marc Murphy (C)
Interchange 6. Kade Simpson 11. Sam Kerridge 1. Andrew Walker
19. Liam Sumner
Emergencies 32. Nick Graham 12. Blaine Boekhorst 36. Cameron Wood
In: White, Gorringe, Weitering
Out: Michael Jamison (illness), Matthew Kreuzer (knee), Levi Casboult (leg)
New: Gorringe (Gold Coast Suns)
Thanks GTC.
I think given our outs, the club has done pretty good damage limitation work. On paper, that group doesn't look too bad. Realistically, I don't see how the club could've done much better.
Weiters is picked, but last week was 2-3 weeks away. Not sure if he plays.
If he is a late out, then Wood will come in.
Wood will replace Gorringe as 1st ruck.
Gorringe will play key forward in place of Rowe.
Rowe will go down back in place of Weitering.
Bit convoluted, but its the only way we can get a balanced team should Weitering go out.
Obviously, Cripps is a bit touch and go after hurting his knee last week. Straight swap for Graham.
Thanks GTC.
I think given our outs, the club has done pretty good damage limitation work. On paper, that group doesn't look too bad. Realistically, I don't see how the club could've done much better.
Agree. Dont know how good or bad Gorringe has been in the 2's but I guess its irrelevant now. I am sure BB has told him:
- Take hold of your opportunity
- Rip into every ruck contest as hard as you can and absolutely give it to Goldy. Especially the first one, needs to hurt him (legally) if possible.
He cant match him for talent, he can match him for effort and physicality.
It seems we have maybe put C. Curnow on the LTI , and promoted Wood.
I reckon Wood may play if that's the case. Don't who he would replace though. :o
Not a bad team considering the forced outs.
Weiters is picked, but last week was 2-3 weeks away. Not sure if he plays.
If he is a late out, then Wood will come in.
Wood will replace Gorringe as 1st ruck.
Gorringe will play key forward in place of Rowe.
Rowe will go down back in place of Weitering.
Bit convoluted, but its the only way we can get a balanced team should Weitering go out.
Obviously, Cripps is a bit touch and go after hurting his knee last week. Straight swap for Graham.
Yes, there's a "rolling the dice" feel to a couple of those selections.
It seems we have maybe put C. Curnow on the LTI , and promoted Wood.
I reckon Wood may play if that's the case. Don't who he would replace though. :o
Not a bad team considering the forced outs.
It states in the article that Wood was elevated for McKay.
Yes, Mckay was put on the LTI a while ago, but we never elevated anyone until now.
Crisis over. ;)
McKay was placed on LTI when he was first injured. Curnow is at the club on light duties but not sure when he will be fit again. Could be two weeks could be two months no one knows but is improving.
There is no way C.Curnow will be back within two months let alone two weeks. I'm not sure of the current thinking but years ago it was thought the worse thing a GF sufferer can do is over-exert themselves during recuperation. It can set them up for years of relapses. Gentle exercise used to be the call, long walks, gentle bike rides, aqua-aerobics, etc., etc..
There is no way C.Curnow will be back within two months let alone two weeks. I'm not sure of the current thinking but years ago it was thought the worse thing a GF sufferer can do is over-exert themselves during recuperation. It can set them up for years of relapses. Gentle exercise used to be the call, long walks, gentle bike rides, aqua-aerobics, etc., etc..
Poor kid :(
Bollocks, infectious mononucleosis affects everyone differently, for some people its just like a cold they get over in a week or so, for some it can be debilitating for 12 months, and then everyone else is somewhere in between. The medicos at the club know how to manage it, after all it's not uncommon, and if they've decided he is right to start training again this week, which he did, then he shouldn't be too far away from playing
Bollocks, infectious mononucleosis affects everyone differently, for some people its just like a cold they get over in a week or so, for some it can be debilitating for 12 months, and then everyone else is somewhere in between. The medicos at the club know how to manage it, after all it's not uncommon, and if they've decided he is right to start training again this week, which he did, then he shouldn't be too far away from playing
Agreed.
At one stage in high school i got tested for it because they thought i had it. Turned up negative.
Years later i got a blood test for something completely unrelated and they said, "oh, i can see you've had galandular fever in the past".
Now either the initial test gave false results (even so, never missed any school or anything) or i had such a mild version of it later on that i never knew i had it.
I had a friend who basically spent 12 months in bed from it though.
If they say Curnowfides is on light duties already, then i suspect he might be available in a couple of weeks as he obviously has had a mild version.
Bollocks, infectious mononucleosis affects everyone differently, for some people its just like a cold they get over in a week or so, for some it can be debilitating for 12 months, and then everyone else is somewhere in between. The medicos at the club know how to manage it, after all it's not uncommon, and if they've decided he is right to start training again this week, which he did, then he shouldn't be too far away from playing
Jack you seem to be in the know, you must be able to answer some questions for me.
Given the lad was hospitalised for almost a week is that the low end, moderate or high end?
How long before contact sports can be resumed, I had heard/read it is up to four weeks after the spleen returns to it's original size?
Has it been reported which strain he has, aren't there two main variants, one relatively mild the other not so much?
Is there a relationship or link between Glandular Fever and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome?
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl-season-2016-sam-dochertys-emergence-not-out-of-the-blue-20160517-gox40j.html (http://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl-season-2016-sam-dochertys-emergence-not-out-of-the-blue-20160517-gox40j.html)
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl-season-2016-sam-dochertys-emergence-not-out-of-the-blue-20160517-gox40j.html (http://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl-season-2016-sam-dochertys-emergence-not-out-of-the-blue-20160517-gox40j.html)
While I had heard about Doch's Dad, I never knew about the eye and injury issues. Yet I reckon his first season was still a pretty good standard, despite all those problems he was carrying. No wonder he is flying now, I hope things keep looking up for him!
North Melbourne
B: Michael Firrito, Robbie Tarrant, Luke McDonald.
HB: Nick Dal Santo, Scott D. Thompson, Shaun Atley.
C: Sam Gibson, Andrew Swallow, Jamie Macmillan.
HF: Brad McKenzie, Jarrad Waite, Brent Harvey.
F: Ben Brown, Drew Petrie, Lindsay Thomas.
Foll: Todd Goldstein, Ben Cunnington, Jack Ziebell.
Int: Trent Dumont, Aaron Mullett, Robin Nahas, Farren Ray.
Emg: Ryan Clarke, Majak Daw, Corey Wagner.
In: Michael Firrito, Trent Dumont, Farren Ray.
Out: Majak Daw (Omitted), Ben Jacobs (Foot), Mason Wood (Concussion)
Bit surprised they dropped Daw: I thought they'd go tall and stretch our defence more than it looks already to be stretched.
Carlton
B: Ciaran Byrne, Simon White, Jacob Weitering.
HB: Sam Docherty, Lachie Plowman, Zach Tuohy.
C: Jed Lamb, Patrick Cripps, Dennis Armfield.
HF: Dale Thomas, Liam Jones, Matthew Wright.
F: Andrejs Everitt, Sam Rowe, Ed Curnow.
Foll: Daniel Gorringe, Bryce Gibbs, Marc Murphy.
Int: Kade Simpson, Sam Kerridge, Andrew Walker, Liam Sumner.
Emg: Nick Graham, Blaine Boekhorst, Cameron Wood.
In: Simon White, Jacob Weitering, Daniel Gorringe.
Out: Michael Jamison (Illness), Levi Casboult (Leg), Matthew Kreuzer (Knee)
A few surprises. I didn't see Gorringe as an option. Hope he is fit. Hope Weitering is fit.
As for Jamo, he can't take a trick!
I have loved watching this courageous young man develop. Although I was aware of his dear father passing whilst he was on camp, didn't realise he'd had such health issues. How admirable that he's risen to these heights thus far.
I'm so excited to see Sam develop into a superstar of the game.
Go Blues
We have them well covered in the midfield.
Rowe to kick 8. :o :o
There is no way C.Curnow will be back within two months let alone two weeks. I'm not sure of the current thinking but years ago it was thought the worse thing a GF sufferer can do is over-exert themselves during recuperation. It can set them up for years of relapses. Gentle exercise used to be the call, long walks, gentle bike rides, aqua-aerobics, etc., etc..
Another bollocks LP ;)
My son was back playing Vic Championship basketball within 6 weeks. He was under the care of a specialist who carefully monitored his recovery and gave him the all clear to train at full pace after 5 weeks.
Charlie Curnow is already doing light training so I'd expect him to start playing a quarter or two in the NBs within 4 or 5 weeks - provided there are no setbacks with his recovery.
It can be a bit of a lottery. One of my weightlifting buddies was out of action for 12 months!
I wonder what's going on with Jaksch?
I thought he'd be ahead of gorringe based on recent weeks form.
I wonder what's going on with Jaksch?
I thought he'd be ahead of gorringe based on recent weeks form.
Gorringe is ruck height and played as a ruckman before.
Don't know who I hate more, North Melb or Brad Scott?
I hope we win the free kick count just to piss him off. I wonder how many time C7 will show him throwing his hands in the air. ::)
Another bollocks LP ;)
My son was back playing Vic Championship basketball within 6 weeks. He was under the care of a specialist who carefully monitored his recovery and gave him the all clear to train at full pace after 5 weeks.
Charlie Curnow is already doing light training so I'd expect him to start playing a quarter or two in the NBs within 4 or 5 weeks - provided there are no setbacks with his recovery.
It can be a bit of a lottery. One of my weightlifting buddies was out of action for 12 months!
So let me get this straight, the 3 weeks he has already missed and the next 4 - 5 weeks doesn't add up to nearly two months? I'm stunned! :o
Are you able to shed any light on those questions I asked Jack earlier?
Given the lad was hospitalised for almost a week(5 days is the rumor) is that the low end, moderate or high end?
How long before contact sports can be resumed, I had heard/read it is up to four weeks after the spleen returns to it's original size?
Has it been reported which strain he has, aren't there two main variants, one relatively mild the other not so much?
Is there a relationship or link between Glandular Fever and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome?
Maybe all these related posts can head to the Injury Thread.
The fact that Charlie has commenced light training suggests that he was at the milder end of the scale - but that's just speculation of course.
Perhaps he was hospitalised because he is an AFL footballer and it was the best path to a speedy recovery - but, again, that's speculation.
My son's specialist was very strict about not resuming contact training before time but he did recovery very quickly and had no long term issues. As I mentioned before, my weightlifting buddy was laid low for 12 months, as was my next door neighbour. In both cases, they contracted glandular fever in their 30s and that may be a factor.
I can't shed light on your questions - perhaps ask Dr Google ;)
Gorringe is ruck height and played as a ruckman before.
I get that but he's not even listed as an emergency, and from what I have seen thus far, Gorringe has been played more forward than Ruckman.
Sure it might be all about matchups and no obvious one for KJ, but Im surprised to see he wasnt even close.
I get that but he's not even listed as an emergency, and from what I have seen thus far, Gorringe has been played more forward than Ruckman.
Sure it might be all about matchups and no obvious one for KJ, but Im surprised to see he wasnt even close.
I have not personally seen him play this year but there have been plenty of reports to indicate that KJ has yet to reach the standards required of him for senior selection.
I have not personally seen him play this year but there have been plenty of reports to indicate that KJ has yet to reach the standards required of him for senior selection.
Unless he has been hampered by illness and injury, I now hold grave fears for KJ's ability to make it. He should be well and truly "firing a shot" by now. Something is not right.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-05-20/weitering-ready-to-go-gorringe-for-blue-debut
Gives a small insight into the thinking behind the Gorringe selection.
Just took Rowe at 163s (yes 100 and 63) to kick 4 or more.
If he's gets ample supply we know he's a very decent kick. Go Sam, Go Blues!
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-05-20/weitering-ready-to-go-gorringe-for-blue-debut
Gives a small insight into the thinking behind the Gorringe selection.
I'm starting to get really excited again. Good to have this feeling every Friday again.
Go Blues.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-05-20/weitering-ready-to-go-gorringe-for-blue-debut
Gives a small insight into the thinking behind the Gorringe selection.
If Gorringe just keeps up with Goldy, spoils him and generally makes his life difficult he would be making a good contribution - it's then up to our mids.
Same height, same weight give or take....let's hope our lad acquits himself well.
Gorringe just has to compete. That's all we should expect.
re: Glandular Fever....EBV to those in the trade.....another herpes format that you get over but dont get rid of. A lot of kids have it but is just gets passed of as the flu as it only lasts a short time in most cases..
My Eldest had it for 24 months and it still pops up in her blood tests if you look for it..my son had it for about 4 weeks and like DJ's lad was back playing basketball in about 6 weeks..he is a big strong boy though and shook it off quick and I would expect a fine specimen like Charlie Curnow to do similar.....
In fact we found getting back to your routine and doing some moderate exercise tended to help more than continual rest...
Is there a relationship or link between Glandular Fever and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome?
The friend i mentioned earlier ended up with CFS after contracting Galandular Fever. Thats why she was bed ridden for the best part of 12 months.
Didn't Alastair Lynch suffer the same fate. A year off to try and recover.
re: Glandular Fever....EBV to those in the trade.....another herpes format that you get over but dont get rid of. A lot of kids have it but is just gets passed of as the flu as it only lasts a short time in most cases..
My Eldest had it for 24 months and it still pops up in her blood tests if you look for it..my son had it for about 4 weeks and like DJ's lad was back playing basketball in about 6 weeks..he is a big strong boy though and shook it off quick and I would expect a fine specimen like Charlie Curnow to do similar.....
In fact we found getting back to your routine and doing some moderate exercise tended to help more than continual rest...
Yep, not surprised to hear the modern treatment is the opposite of the old world ideas of rest. I watched a show on ABC the other week that said exactly the same thing about cancer and chemotherapy. The new theory is exercise stimulates blood flow assisting the drugs to get to where they need to be with much lower doses, something about opening pathways that the body naturally does to generate energy needed for exercise helps distribute the therapy. But the spin off was that even patients not having chemo saw a benefit from immediate exercise, they think this is because exercise triggers the bodies repair mechanism allowing it to deal with tumor cells. Resting requires higher doses to ensure all critical zones are treated and doesn't trigger the bodies own repair process.
Is there a game today? :P ;)
Go Blues!
Forget Levi's contribution last week as it was non existent (no fault of his) Weitering and White are strong inclusions and either has Jammo covered at this stage. If you rate Kruezer's performance at 100%, I'd be stoked if big Orange could give us 75% of that, and pinch a goal.
Re KJ, you are seeing that the Crows are playing hard ball with Menzel who has more runs on the board than KJ. Bolts has said that NB performance and effort will be rewarded and obviously KJ hasn't produced that to a satisfactory level. (Would SOS have considered him, if he had been in the chair at the time ?)
Forget Levi's contribution last week as it was non existent (no fault of his) Weitering and White are strong inclusions and either has Jammo covered at this stage. If you rate Kruezer's performance at 100%, I'd be stoked if big Orange could give us 75% of that, and pinch a goal.
Re KJ, you are seeing that the Crows are playing hard ball with Menzel who has more runs on the board than KJ. Bolts has said that NB performance and effort will be rewarded and obviously KJ hasn't produced that to a satisfactory level. (Would SOS have considered him, if he had been in the chair at the time ?)
If he was interested in KJ (and we don't know he would have been) he would have offered a lower pick and maybe a player.
Malty wanted instant results, SOS is rebuilding so i don't think there's any chance he'd have traded out of the top 10 for a speculative tall who nobody had figured out if he was a forward or a back or a bust.
Forget Levi's contribution last week as it was non existent (no fault of his) Weitering and White are strong inclusions and either has Jammo covered at this stage. If you rate Kruezer's performance at 100%, I'd be stoked if big Orange could give us 75% of that, and pinch a goal.
Re KJ, you are seeing that the Crows are playing hard ball with Menzel who has more runs on the board than KJ. Bolts has said that NB performance and effort will be rewarded and obviously KJ hasn't produced that to a satisfactory level. (Would SOS have considered him, if he had been in the chair at the time ?)
Jaksch's been unlucky as he has been pretty good in the twos. Marking very well, kicking some goals and last week 20 touches and 6 marks. We do have a number in his spots at both ends so he's really having to earn his stripes after a pretty good year thus far with the NBs.
We have quite a few that have been filling his spots. We might be better off with Jaksch rather than Jones but Jones got in based on good early season form, especially against Geelong, and simply hasn't done enough to be dropped. You could argue having him in before Jammo and White as well but we've gone with experience.
Jones got in curtesy of playing closer to goal than Jaksch and kicking slightly more goals. Bizarre situation where Cas gets injured and our next best tall fwd isn't even an emergency. BB hates him.
Jones got in curtesy of playing closer to goal than Jaksch and kicking slightly more goals. Bizarre situation where Cas gets injured and our next best tall fwd isn't even an emergency. BB hates him.
You have to wonder what SOS's take on him is?
Jones got in curtesy of playing closer to goal than Jaksch and kicking slightly more goals. Bizarre situation where Cas gets injured and our next best tall fwd isn't even an emergency. BB hates him.
Hate is a strong word jeza. I dont think BB "hates" anyone, but he is strong and uncompromising in his demands of the players. Read the article in the HS on him.
Jones got in curtesy of playing closer to goal than Jaksch and kicking slightly more goals. Bizarre situation where Cas gets injured and our next best tall fwd isn't even an emergency. BB hates him.
I understand how it could appear this way. I reckon you can be really confident that BB is not the kind of Senior Coach who would 'hate' a player. I think he has a standard for senior selection and simply won't drop below it (unless serious injury forces his hand). The only reason I think Gorringe was selected ahead of KJ would be his ability to help out in the ruck. At his best Gorringe can pinch a goal or two up forward, but so can KJ.
And if you look at our big blokes who get senior games they all seem to have one particular thing in common which doesn't seem to be KJs strong suit - ferocious endeavour at the contest. Jones hits packs and has second and third efforts as do our other big blokes, but KJ is not big on that - he seems to be able to take a good contested mark, affect a good spoil but if either of those fail he's slow to respond and perhaps that is what the coaches have him working on, his second and third efforts. I'll watch him closely tomorrow arvo to see how that goes.
If Jaksch was showing enough in the VFL he'd be in the seniors, it's not as if our senior team is loaded with top class talls.
I hope he eventually does OK but there's serious doubts that he'll measure up, he must have played at least 20 VFL games by now and this is his fourth season on an AFL list.
Anyway, back to the game and I'm tipping a 5 goal minimum loss, Goldstein V Gorringe will be a no contest.
If Jaksch was showing enough in the VFL he'd be in the seniors, it's not as if our senior team is loaded with top class talls.
I hope he eventually does OK but there's serious doubts that he'll measure up, he must have played at least 20 VFL games by now and this is his fourth season on an AFL list.
Anyway, back to the game and I'm tipping a 5 goal minimum loss, Goldstein V Gorringe will be a no contest.
That's an improvement from the 10 goal loss you normally predict. :D
I might put a $1000 on us. ;)
Jones got in curtesy of playing closer to goal than Jaksch and kicking slightly more goals. Bizarre situation where Cas gets injured and our next best tall fwd isn't even an emergency. BB hates him.
suuurrre.
Jaksch hasn't done enough to earn a spot, it's plain and simple, but he is not on his Pat Malone.
Tutt, DVR, Graham, Boekhorst, Smith, etc., etc.. are all languishing in the twos because of intent, or the lack of it.
Bolton has clearly stated one major objective, unity, and nothing destroys unity more than people who don't go when it is their turn to go. Especially if player won't go and then starts finger-pointing!
So far this season Jones goes, maybe even a bit too much, but that is better than the other option. Last week late in the game was the first time I saw him stop, but admittedly he'd played 4Qs without Casboult. However he won't want to do that this weekend, or he may well be having a dewy early start to next weekend.
Commitment to the contest is not optional, and commitment to the contest covers many sins.
Jones is doing what the coach tells him to do.....chase, tackle, and contest as many mark as he can......the ball went to Kruezer last week via a handball that was crumbed after a Jones marking contest...
Jaksch wants it lace out and doesnt have the intensity of Jones...I like Jaksch and reckon he has plenty of talent but Bolton wont give you a game based on talent alone or how stylish you look...
You'd think that if the effort the Kangabies bring tonight is similar to the past 2 weeks then it's game on, however, if they click back into early season form it could get ugly for us.