Is there a thread for this, if not then it's overdue!
I have no idea of team line ups, but if the Tiger players actually want Dimma as coach, they should get the job done - Richmond by 5 goals.
It will be interesting to see what effect Nthmond list changes have, ours are a little more less predictable.
Is the loss of Vickery and the injury to Hampson while retaining the aging Maric a negative, or is that covered by the recruitment of Nankervis. It's a pity our ruck division will enter this game undermanned, we might have held an advantage but I suspect it'll be 50/50.
Prestia is a good pickup as is Caddy, but over the last few years I think they come out square given the retirements, trades and the Yarran situation.
It may be a lot closer than supporters think, I can't split them, I know a few Nthmond fans who are less than confident. They think all the media hype is a bit too bullish off the back of the obvious Dimma boosters.
I have no idea of team line ups, but if the Tiger players actually want Dimma as coach, they should get the job done - Richmond by 5 goals.
I think it will take more than the players wanting Dimma as coach. The mighty Blues by a goal, kicked after the siren by ... SOJ :)
I think it will take more than the players wanting Dimma as coach. The mighty Blues by a goal, kicked after the siren by ... SOJ :)
I certainly like the sound of that. I guess we'll know soon enough.
My thoughts are we should win.
Go Blues
Dear Mr Bolton,
I will be attending this game with my son. It is not often we can get to games due to living interstate. So as you can imagine with the cost of flight, tickets, accommodation etc the weekend will be close to $1000 for us.
A lot for a game of footy.
Previous matches I have taken my lad to players have appeared lack lusted and the game plan was in tatters.
My son's support has wavered over the last 10 years but we are all still members.
All I ask is that the Carlton Football Club comes to play.
EACH and EVERY player wears the jumper with pride and goes when it is their turn to go NOT pick and choose.
I ask that the TEAM plays as a TEAM and shows structure.
The coaches have a Plan A and a Plan B.
I ask that the Forward line (which used to be Carlton's strength) shows signs that it is A forward line. Goals win games.
Please get the boys to come out and play from the start and leave nothing on the park at the end.
Thanking you advance and wish you a very successful year.
Go Blues
BluePhantom
It will be interesting to see what effect Nthmond list changes have, ours are a little more less predictable.
Is the loss of Vickery and the injury to Hampson while retaining the aging Maric a negative, or is that covered by the recruitment of Nankervis. It's a pity our ruck division will enter this game undermanned, we might have held an advantage but I suspect it'll be 50/50.
Prestia is a good pickup as is Caddy, but over the last few years I think they come out square given the retirements, trades and the Yarran situation.
It may be a lot closer than supporters think, I can't split them, I know a few Nthmond fans who are less than confident. They think all the media hype is a bit too bullish off the back of the obvious Dimma boosters.
I spotted Kreuzer at the local woolworths twice in the last month. He had a trolley full of fruit and vegetables on both occasions, and was walking around with shorts a t-shirt, and thongs on. He looked like he had been working fairly hard by the callouses on his feet over this pre season which combined with his Freo game form(in which I thought he had a particularly good match against Sandilands considering hes unlikely to beat him) speaks for where he is at and that is in rip snorting condition.
I think he will do really well this season, and as much as we consider him a "lone hand" he has adequate support from Rowe, and Casboult. We might still have the upper hand in this ruck contest after all provided he stays relatively fit and injury free (no one is ever 100%).
The major positives from my perspective is that he had no obvious bracing on which means not only is he getting through matches fairly unscathed the recovery he is doing is allowing him to move around freely.
I spotted Kreuzer at the local woolworths twice in the last month. He had a trolley full of fruit and vegetables on both occasions, and was walking around with shorts a t-shirt, and thongs on. He looked like he had been working fairly hard by the callouses on his feet over this pre season which combined with his Freo game form(in which I thought he had a particularly good match against Sandilands considering hes unlikely to beat him) speaks for where he is at and that is in rip snorting condition.
I think he will do really well this season, and as much as we consider him a "lone hand" he has adequate support from Rowe, and Casboult. We might still have the upper hand in this ruck contest after all provided he stays relatively fit and injury free (no one is ever 100%).
The major positives from my perspective is that he had no obvious bracing on which means not only is he getting through matches fairly unscathed the recovery he is doing is allowing him to move around freely.
Murph stated recently in an interview that MK is in the best condition he has ever seen him in.
I spotted Kreuzer at the local woolworths twice in the last month. He had a trolley full of fruit and vegetables on both occasions, and was walking around with shorts a t-shirt, and thongs on. He looked like he had been working fairly hard by the callouses on his feet over this pre season which combined with his Freo game form(in which I thought he had a particularly good match against Sandilands considering hes unlikely to beat him) speaks for where he is at and that is in rip snorting condition.
I think he will do really well this season, and as much as we consider him a "lone hand" he has adequate support from Rowe, and Casboult. We might still have the upper hand in this ruck contest after all provided he stays relatively fit and injury free (no one is ever 100%).
The major positives from my perspective is that he had no obvious bracing on which means not only is he getting through matches fairly unscathed the recovery he is doing is allowing him to move around freely.
Good spotting Thry!
I reckon Matthew Kreuzer is in for a big year. His JLT form was good and I thought he beat Sandilands quite comprehensively. Yes, Sandilands won more hitouts but they were rarely to advantage and Kreuzer was much more effective around the ground.
Just heard Choco Williams on SEN and he says that in the Richmond inner sanctum, they work themselves up into a frenzy this week with heaps of 'what if they do this' 'I hope this doesn't happen' etc throwing doubt into their own minds. He says it's laughable......but it's there!!! Good for us!
I reckon this game is 50/50... Seriously, this mob are kidding themselves if they reckon they're better than us. After Dusty blows up at half time Cripps will take over.
I'm not a betting man but if the line stays at 40 .5 points I'm getting on.
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I'd say we are in with a serious show if we turn up to play.
I reckon this game is 50/50... Seriously, this mob are kidding themselves if they reckon they're better than us. After Dusty blows up at half time Cripps will take over.
I'm not a betting man but if the line stays at 40 .5 points I'm getting on.
Martin will play forward IMO because they know we have no one to play on him...Im less bullish on Kruezer than others...I thought Sandilands won the ruck easily but our man was more value around the ground.
Cripps needs to be BOG and lead us to victory....50/50 game...the Tigers have their stars but tail off badly IMO and have their fair share of spuds too...
I see Rance as the major stumbling block...intercept marking specialists love us because we bomb the ball most times and never hit up many targets, need to to change that vs the Tigers and keep Rance out of the
game and keep the ball in our forward 50 more.
Tigers will start favourites but they are ordinary IMO and we have a chance...
Martin will play forward IMO because they know we have no one to play on him...Im less bullish on Kruezer than others...I thought Sandilands won the ruck easily but our man was more value around the ground.
Cripps needs to be BOG and lead us to victory....50/50 game...the Tigers have their stars but tail off badly IMO and have their fair share of spuds too...
I see Rance as the major stumbling block...intercept marking specialists love us because we bomb the ball most times and never hit up many targets, need to to change that vs the Tigers and keep Rance out of the
game and keep the ball in our forward 50 more.
Tigers will start favourites but they are ordinary IMO and we have a chance...
Agree, we need to be fierce in our F50 and try to create some ground level opportunities, ESP if Pickett plays.
perhaps White on Rance as a defensive forward?
Apparently SPS is being actively considered for selection!
Just heard Choco Williams on SEN and he says that in the Richmond inner sanctum, they work themselves up into a frenzy this week with heaps of 'what if they do this' 'I hope this doesn't happen' etc throwing doubt into their own minds. He says it's laughable......but it's there!!! Good for us!
Choco with a grudge against Richmond? Never!
He is sticking the boots in at every opportunity :) :)
perhaps White on Rance as a defensive forward?
I'd like to see that. :)
I spotted Kreuzer at the local woolworths twice in the last month. He had a trolley full of fruit and vegetables on both occasions, and was walking around with shorts a t-shirt, and thongs on. He looked like he had been working fairly hard by the callouses on his feet over this pre season which combined with his Freo game form(in which I thought he had a particularly good match against Sandilands considering hes unlikely to beat him) speaks for where he is at and that is in rip snorting condition.
I think he will do really well this season, and as much as we consider him a "lone hand" he has adequate support from Rowe, and Casboult. We might still have the upper hand in this ruck contest after all provided he stays relatively fit and injury free (no one is ever 100%).
The major positives from my perspective is that he had no obvious bracing on which means not only is he getting through matches fairly unscathed the recovery he is doing is allowing him to move around freely.
STALKER :D
perhaps White on Rance as a defensive forward?
I wouldn't mind seeing Weitering stand Rance for a while.
I wouldn't mind seeing Weitering stand Rance for a while.
Little SoS for mine. He only needs to provide a contest and keep dance honest.
perhaps White on Rance as a defensive forward?
Yep. Make life difficult and try and get the ball to spill out and create crumbling opportunities. :)
perhaps White on Rance as a defensive forward?
Maybe get Mad Mitch back for the game to do a 'Fletcher' on him!!
I'm far from confident about a good season this year. Can't see us winning many games at all.
However, Tigers are mental midgets and are always ripe the picking.
They SHOULD win....but thats why they might lose.
Looking forward to playing a richmond side that doesn't have delidio in it. He's given us plenty of problems over the years.
I'm far from confident about a good season this year. Can't see us winning many games at all.
However, Tigers are mental midgets and are always ripe the picking.
They SHOULD win....but thats why they might lose.
Looking forward to playing a richmond side that doesn't have delidio in it. He's given us plenty of problems over the years.
In all honesty last year we should have beaten them with what was probably a weaker side than the one we'll field on Thursday.
Maybe start our tall forwards up the ground away from the goals so rance has to leave he's inner sanctum and play out of he's position on a back flank and play a curnow or a SOS at full forward. Cas and weits out side the forward fifty on the flanks. Upset there team structure. Just a thought
In all honesty last year we should have beaten them with what was probably a weaker side than the one we'll field on Thursday.
Agree, letting them kick 4.2 to our 1.2 in the last was criminal in the context of that game.
In all honesty last year we should have beaten them with what was probably a weaker side than the one we'll field on Thursday.
Yes, that was a disappointing result. It seemed to me that the players didn't realise that they were capable of winning.
Maybe start our tall forwards up the ground away from the goals so rance has to leave he's inner sanctum and play out of he's position on a back flank and play a curnow or a SOS at full forward. Cas and weits out side the forward fifty on the flanks. Upset there team structure. Just a thought
Rance would be happy to let our forwards get the ball outside 50.
He'll just sag off and wait for them to come back in and pick them up on the way through.
Rance would be happy to let our forwards get the ball outside 50.
He'll just sag off and wait for them to come back in and pick them up on the way through.
And when he does that, our other fwds need to work their defenders over to create opportunities, to where Rance aint, inside 50. He'll only do it once or twice before he has to pay more respect to his opponent.
Former GWS players Caleb Marchbank, Jarrod Pickett and Rhys Palmer will all play barring any training mishaps, while former Cat Billie Smedts has cemented his spot in Carlton's best 22.
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New draftees Cameron Polson and Zac Fisher remain in contention, but they are considered less likely to debut.
While the Blues would like to settle Weitering in defence, where they see him playing the majority of his career, they are also aware of their inability to score freely.
The Blues are likely to start with Levi Casboult, whose struggles in front of goal have been well-documented, up forward along with second-year players Charlie Curnow and Jack Silvagni.
If that combination isn't potent enough, Bolton would like to be able to throw Weitering into attack as he did at times in 2016.
I'm not so sure Smedts is cemented, nor Palmer, but I'm certain Marchbank and Pickett will get a run.
Rance is one of the most over rated defenders in the league when he has to defend, if we had a second marking target we could expose him, but we haven't so he'll get away with sagging off and essentially playing as a loose man. His man must make him accountable.
We are already being talked about as the "bye", I hope we really attack the ball and man manically and really put the wind up them. If we get a few goals up I reckon we'll break them because they don't come across as a mentally tough outfit.
I'm not so sure Smedts is cemented, nor Palmer, but I'm certain Marchbank and Pickett will mget a run.
HS has a story on BB who was on RSN. He said it would be a young side with Marchy and Pickett likely. Cripps is a definite starter.
The media are akin to Lemmings, one shares a view (Lloyd in this case) and the others pile in. I see King has tonight shared his fears for our list rebuild and the reliance on players from other clubs. The lack of critical analysis is stark. Seriously this is what they come up with after five months off?
Should have traded Gibbs, for a 1st and 2nd rounder he said..... Just needed someone to offer that Kingy!
None bar Pickett of the incoming players look like making 100 games... none of them have played a single AFL game for Carlton....
Besides, he was wearing a terrible F*^@ing shirt.
Go Baggers!
The media are akin to Lemmings, one shares a view (Lloyd in this case) and the others pile in. I see King has tonight shared his fears for our list rebuild and the reliance on players from other clubs. The lack of critical analysis is stark. Seriously this is what they come up with after five months off?
Should have traded Gibbs, for a 1st and 2nd rounder he said..... Just needed someone to offer that Kingy!
None bar Pickett of the incoming players look like making 100 games... none of them have played a single AFL game for Carlton....
Besides, he was wearing a terrible F*^@ing shirt.
Go Baggers!
When you trade players in, it seems that they always come from other clubs ::)
I reckon that we have achieved a good balance of new players through favourable trades and what seems to be excellent use of our draft picks, not to mention maximising our involvement in the draft. The problem is that ex-footballers who set themselves up as experts rarely put in the work to ensure that their conclusions are based on sound analysis. As soon as King's and Lloyd's (and others) pronouncements are shown to be wrong, they'll write another article extolling SOS's genius as a list manager >:(
Marchbank will play 200 games and be AA at some point.
The media are akin to Lemmings, one shares a view (Lloyd in this case) and the others pile in. I see King has tonight shared his fears for our list rebuild and the reliance on players from other clubs. The lack of critical analysis is stark. Seriously this is what they come up with after five months off?
Should have traded Gibbs, for a 1st and 2nd rounder he said..... Just needed someone to offer that Kingy!
None bar Pickett of the incoming players look like making 100 games... none of them have played a single AFL game for Carlton....
Besides, he was wearing a terrible F*^@ing shirt.
Go Baggers!
Yeah was typical BS from king
What I laughed about was he was very concerned with the recruiting of ex GWS playes saying its a massive risk as these players couldn't make it at GWS. Then as you mentioned above his comment that only maybe Pickett looked like we might have found a player yet wrote off every other trade we made this year.
THEN 15 mins later him and piggy were saying how amazing saints recruiters have been getting in top quality ex players that have all filled a void.
On the list was Nathan brown and Jake Carlisle.
F***heads they haven't even played a single game and your praising them for getting it right! :o
Yet they did the complete opposite with us.
Such poor bias reporting.......again. Yet you watch how they quickly change their tune if we string a few wins together.
Listen, I know I bang on about this, but I do so because it's accurate.
In the media at the moment are a bunch of 40 or 50 something media types who genuinely believe their careers were partially cruelled by Carlton's salary cap violations. But reality is, they or their club was no fecking good anyway!
Nafun Brown is only a game or two away from a significant injury. Relying on him is a high risk exercise, to put it mildly.
BTW, aren't Steele and Bruce ex-GWS... short memory Kingy!
Nafun Brown is only a game or two away from a significant injury. Relying on him is a high risk exercise, to put it mildly.
BTW, aren't Steele and Bruce ex-GWS... short memory Kingy!
dumb as pigsh..t that bloke.
Nafun Brown is only a game or two away from a significant injury. Relying on him is a high risk exercise, to put it mildly.
BTW, aren't Steele and Bruce ex-GWS... short memory Kingy!
Agendas often get in the way of logic! ;D
Dear Mr Bolton,
I will be attending this game with my son. It is not often we can get to games due to living interstate. So as you can imagine with the cost of flight, tickets, accommodation etc the weekend will be close to $1000 for us.
A lot for a game of footy.
Previous matches I have taken my lad to players have appeared lack lusted and the game plan was in tatters.
My son's support has wavered over the last 10 years but we are all still members.
All I ask is that the Carlton Football Club comes to play.
EACH and EVERY player wears the jumper with pride and goes when it is their turn to go NOT pick and choose.
I ask that the TEAM plays as a TEAM and shows structure.
The coaches have a Plan A and a Plan B.
I ask that the Forward line (which used to be Carlton's strength) shows signs that it is A forward line. Goals win games.
Please get the boys to come out and play from the start and leave nothing on the park at the end.
Thanking you advance and wish you a very successful year.
Go Blues
BluePhantom
This ∆∆∆∆∆ I like....
I hope your boy gets to scream out loud after the siren, coz we won by a goal ;D
Go new Blues
I'm not so sure Smedts is cemented, nor Palmer, but I'm certain Marchbank and Pickett will get a run.
When you recruit players like Smedts and Palmer you are under pressure to play them to justify your decision to recruit them especially when the media
scrutinize your work like what Lloyd is doing with us at the minute....
Marchbank and Pickett are lock ins....
When you recruit players like Smedts and Palmer you are under pressure to play them to justify your decision to recruit them especially when the media
scrutinize your work like what Lloyd is doing with us at the minute....
Marchbank and Pickett are lock ins....
Sorry but surely EB1 your kidding.
So the club is now making R1 decisions based off a fool like Lloyd review of us?
If your right, we might as well merge with Brisbane cause all this talk about rebuilding from the ground up and doing it the right way was obviously BS if we make important decisions based on media pressure.
Whilst these picks were odd in most fans/medias opinion (including mine) they selected them for a reason and probably based on the type of players they are on a very specific reason. The will want them and play them when it suits what they were traded in for - Lloyds or any other persons comments surely wont alter a thing the club has planned for.
If it does that we might as well give up.
When you recruit players like Smedts and Palmer you are under pressure to play them to justify your decision to recruit them especially when the media
scrutinize your work like what Lloyd is doing with us at the minute....
Marchbank and Pickett are lock ins....
I can't see that at all EB. Perhaps if they were highly paid, high profile players that cost us an arm and a leg in trade goods. I doubt whether our match committee would take the slightest notice of media reports, particularly from the likes of Lloyd. Besides, their recruitment was a list management decision and we know that SOS is the final arbiter and his decisions do not reflect on the match committee.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-season-2017-tigers-ready-to-roar-with-attacking-game-plan-says-dion-prestia-20170320-gv1ucf.html
This ∆∆∆∆∆ I like....
I hope your boy gets to scream out loud after the siren, coz we won by a goal ;D
Go new Blues
Cheers LoveNavy
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-season-2017-tigers-ready-to-roar-with-attacking-game-plan-says-dion-prestia-20170320-gv1ucf.html
As long as Wallsy doesn't write an article about us, we will be fine.
As long as Wallsy doesn't write an article about us, we will be fine.
Not really an article but still a positive angle from the great man:
HE’S been one of their biggest critics for many years, but Robert Walls is very optimistic about the Blues’ 2017 hopes. But he wasn’t so friendly towards two under-fire coaches.
Speaking on Fox Sports News’ AFL Tonight on Monday, Walls said he expected Carlton to easily exceed the seven wins it recorded in 2016.
“I think Carlton can win 10 or 11 games,” Walls said.
“Most people don’t but they won seven last year and should have won nine, I thought.”
I reckon he is on the money ... as he often is :)
Not really an article but still a positive angle from the great man:
I reckon he is on the money ... as he often is :)
KB played a recording of Wallsy saying that stuff on SEN today and he sounded very positive about it. He reckons we should win more games than we did last year as our list has been improved!
KB played a recording of Wallsy saying that stuff on SEN today and he sounded very positive about it. He reckons we should win more games than we did last year as our list has been improved!
Must be the Coburg mindset because that's exactly how I see it.
Wallsy has never been one to pull his punches, or drink his own bathwater, and that would be his considered opinion.
I've been a Walls fan for a while, and whilst I don't share his optimism, you can't question that in footy, he has pretty much seen and done it all.
He is great mates with Sergio Silvagni, and I'm sure that via SOS he would know so much more about the club than he releases to the public. I think that perhaps his friendship with Sergio may influence his positive feelings, but maybe I'm just being bitchy.
KB played a recording of Wallsy saying that stuff on SEN today and he sounded very positive about it. He reckons we should win more games than we did last year as our list has been improved!
WTF? KB applying logic to an arguement? Never thought I live to see the day. Or is he at his sarcastic best?
And Walls certainly gave the Bolton appointment the thumbs up when it was announced.
WTF? KB applying logic to an arguement? Never thought I live to see the day. Or is he at his sarcastic best?
GTC, it was Wallsy saying it not KB. KB of course was incredulous as what Wallsy said implied we were going to knock off the Tiges on Thurs! :))
I've been a Walls fan for a while, and whilst I don't share his optimism, you can't question that in footy, he has pretty much seen and done it all.
He is great mates with Sergio Silvagni, and I'm sure that via SOS he would know so much more about the club than he releases to the public. I think that perhaps his friendship with Sergio may influence his positive feelings, but maybe I'm just being bitchy.
Wallsy has never held back when it comes to criticising the club for poor decisions, list management, etc. In fact, the article starts with "He's been one of their biggest critics for many years ..."
GTC, it was Wallsy saying it not KB. KB of course was incredulous as what Wallsy said implied we were going to knock off the Tiges on Thurs! :))
KB may have sounded incredulous Cookie but I suspect he is very worried about a loss and another year of turmoil for his Tiggies.
KB may have sounded incredulous Cookie but I suspect he is very worried about a loss and another year of turmoil for his Tiggies.
I'm sure there's something in that DJC - a frightened man singing in the dark? 8)
Wallsy has never held back when it comes to criticising the club for poor decisions, list management, etc. In fact, the article starts with "He's been one of their biggest critics for many years ..."
I know in the past he's been critical of various things - he's been critical of the poor kicking skills for several years, he's been critical of the board, he's been critical of too many players not pulling their weight and leaving the work to a few (e.g Judd), he's been critical of sacking/hiring of past coaches etc.
I'll be interested to see if one day he comes out and gives SOS an almighty whack.
You all seem to be talking about me.
Wallsy has never held back when it comes to criticising the club for poor decisions, list management, etc. In fact, the article starts with "He's been one of their biggest critics for many years ..."
Lloyd has taken over Wallsy's role of kicking clubs/players heads in on a weekly basis... in retirement Walls is more a fan now, riding the Carlton roller coaster like the rest of us.
Lloyd has taken over Wallsy's role.
Not really, Wallsy used to give everyone a bite without bias, including Carlton.
Lloyd never seriously bites CheatsFC, he's nothing but mostly positive about them.
Not really, Wallsy used to give everyone a bite without bias, including Carlton.
Lloyd never seriously bites CheatsFC, he's nothing but mostly positive about them.
Agree...very soft on EFC and does take delight in sticking the boot into us and the Hawks....cant remember if it was Lyon or Hutchy
but they mentioned his brother Simons recruiting for Freo and M.Lloyds happy face disappeared real quick...
And when he does that, our other fwds need to work their defenders over to create opportunities, to where Rance aint, inside 50. He'll only do it once or twice before he has to pay more respect to his opponent.
We have other forwards?! :o
Not really, Wallsy used to give everyone a bite without bias, including Carlton.
Lloyd never seriously bites CheatsFC, he's nothing but mostly positive about them.
Lloyd is doing Wallsy's schtick, he isn't smart enough to come up with something new.
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2017-03-21/bolton-on-afl-tonight
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2017-03-21/bolton-on-afl-tonight
I am so glad this bloke is our coach. Bring on 2017 and beyond.
Lloyd is doing Wallsy's schtick, he isn't smart enough to come up with something new.
Fair enough, as long as the major difference is clear.
I am so glad this bloke is our coach. Bring on 2017 and beyond.
Same here!
I think Bolts is the most natural and articulate communicator we've had since Parko and that's certainly not where the similarities end.
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2017-03-21/bolton-on-afl-tonight
Must say I'm still sheepish clicking on a coach interview (artefact of dark days).
This one goes a way towards repairing my past struggles ;)
Onya Bolts. It's a tick from me.
I don't know who asked this question in the Cripps video, around the 2:56s mark.
Cripps talks Tigers and Injury (http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2017-03-21/cripps-talks-tigers-and-injury)
Apparently Caddy is now a similar build and height to Cripps? ::)
FFS, what were Geelong thinking, they must be morons to let go a 195cm x 93kg midfielder for feck all! Further more what is Nthmond feeding him, the lads added 10cm and 10kg in a single pre-season. An outstanding result for a 24 year old! :o
Other news, Crippa wants to improve his contested possession rate, Holy Shmoly! ;D
Same here!
I think Bolts is the most natural and articulate communicator we've had since Parko and that's certainly not where the similarities end.
Very good indeed but whether his communication skills translate into onfield improvement - only time will tell.
White, Rowe, Plowman
Docherty, Marchbank, Simpson
Wright, Cripps, Smedts
Kerridge, Weitering, Armfield
Pickett, Casboult, C.Curnow
Kreuzer, Gibbs, Murphy
E.Curnow, Cuningham, Petrevski-Seton, Palmer
J.Silvagni, Fisher, McKay
I just read an article suggesting SPS likely to play.
Why wouldn't you, the guy is something seriously special....
I still prefer Weiters down back to start with, shift him fwd if we get into strife.
White just does too many dumb things (silly free kicks, turnovers in front of goal).
Prefer Wright closer to goal.
Let Charlie run up and down the wing and hopefully snags a few drifting fwd.
Simpson, Rowe, Plowman
Docherty, Weitering, Marchbank
Kerridge, Cripps, Smedts
C.Curnow McKay , J.Silvagni
Pickett, Casboult, Wright
Kreuzer, Gibbs, Murphy
E.Curnow, Cuningham, Armfield, Fisher
I just read an article suggesting SPS likely to play.
Why wouldn't you, the guy is something seriously special....
Without having a hit out game after injury?
Without having a hit out game after injury?
i think a few scratch matches....
if fully fit, wtfn?
i think a few scratch matches....
if fully fit, wtfn?
Hang on, we may have wires crossed here. I agree he seems to have something special and should play ASAP. I dont believe he has played a game of any sort in the PS. Therefore, I wouldn't play him tomorrow night on this basis.
SPS rumour getting a lot stronger......unless its one to throw the Tigers off a bit.
SPS rumour getting a lot stronger......unless its one to throw the Tigers off a bit.
Bolton was talking up his pace in that recent interview. Lord knows we need plenty of that.
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2017-03-22/bolton-talks-round-1-starters
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2017-03-22/sps-in-selection-mix (http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2017-03-22/sps-in-selection-mix)
CHF is going to be an interesting call.
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2017-03-22/sps-in-selection-mix (http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2017-03-22/sps-in-selection-mix)
Well blow me down with a feather, It'll be great if the young fella makes his debut.
CHF is going to be an interesting call.
Levi at CHF, Charlie at FF.
I am so glad this bloke is our coach. Bring on 2017 and beyond.
Me too - all the media carry on starts and I stress and then I listen to Bolts and calm descends me again. I really believe in him and what he's doing for our club.
If you want to see SPS play on Thursday, come to Punt road and watch the practice match there! Then head over for the big game at the 'G, I'd be pretty sure he will be playing in either one of those games!!
That's what I'm doing!
I still prefer Weiters down back to start with, shift him fwd if we get into strife.
White just does too many dumb things (silly free kicks, turnovers in front of goal).
Prefer Wright closer to goal.
Let Charlie run up and down the wing and hopefully snags a few drifting fwd.
Simpson, Rowe, Plowman
Docherty, Weitering, Marchbank
Kerridge, Cripps, Smedts
C.Curnow McKay , J.Silvagni
Pickett, Casboult, Wright
Kreuzer, Gibbs, Murphy
E.Curnow, Cuningham, Armfield, Fisher
Not far away, but I doubt either of McKay or Fisher will play, and Palmer and Thomas will. We will see shortly????.
Talk of Harry Macreadie playing.
To tell ya the truth, don't mind that. I'd love the other Harry to play - McKay!
Well blow me down with a feather, It'll be great if the young fella makes his debut.
Am super excite by this.
Reckon Mcreadie should play as well.
Im starting to get real toey.
Really, when you look at the genuine talent of many of our youngsters, we have much to be excited by. Young top end talent has no ceiling, and performances/results, although should be tempered by supporters, can come quickly.
Think....
Patrick Cripps
Sam Docherty
Jacob Weitering
Charlie Curnow
Jack Silvagni
Harry McKay
David Cuningham
Caleb Marchbank
Jarrod Pickett
Lachie Plowman
Sam Petrevski-Seton
Ciaran Byrne
Then...
Zac Fisher
Harrison Macreadie
Patrick Kerr
Cam Polson
Tom Williamson
Kym Lebois
Anything could happen!!! ;D
Im starting to get real toey.
it's a bit like that, isn't it.
i just want our lads to play uncompromising, hard footy for 4 quarters whilst keeping stoopid turnovers to a minimum.
Do that and we'll take care of the Tiges comfortably.
it's a bit like that, isn't it.
i just want our lads to play uncompromising, hard footy for 4 quarters whilst keeping stoopid turnovers to a minimum.
Do that and we'll take care of the Tiges comfortably.
Agree with this 100%. The silly turnovers, particularly in our back half, has killed us in recent years.
it's a bit like that, isn't it.
i just want our lads to play uncompromising, hard footy for 4 quarters whilst keeping stoopid turnovers to a minimum.
Do that and we'll take care of the Tiges comfortably.
I wonder whether the turnovers were the result of the more aggressive ball movement Bolton wants to bring in :-\
I wonder whether the turnovers were the result of the more aggressive ball movement Bolton wants to bring in :-\
No, just blokes like White crapping their pants in defence.
No, just blokes like White crapping their pants in defence.
:'(
That said, our mids need to be more defensively minded too.
How often does the ball head toward our opponent's goals like a freight train with little or no pressure?
Really, when you look at the genuine talent of many of our youngsters, we have much to be excited by. Young top end talent has no ceiling, and performances/results, although should be tempered by supporters, can come quickly.
Think....
Patrick Cripps
Sam Docherty
Jacob Weitering
Charlie Curnow
Jack Silvagni
Harry McKay
David Cuningham
Caleb Marchbank
Jarrod Pickett
Lachie Plowman
Sam Petrevski-Seton
Ciaran Byrne
Then...
Zac Fisher
Harrison Macreadie
Patrick Kerr
Cam Polson
Tom Williamson
Kym Lebois
Anything could happen!!! ;D
get excited Pratty
SPS and Mcreadie could debut!
That said, our mids need to be more defensively minded too.
How often does the ball head toward our opponent's goals like a freight train with little or no pressure?
I think that's where the aggressive ball movement can be damaging ... to us. I have seen more than a few chains of possessions broken by a kick or handpass that wasn't executed well enough and the rebound catches us with our pants down. Those turnovers are particularly costly as we look like scoring only to lose the opportunity and be scored against.
It will be interesting to see whether that has been addressed on Thursday.
If we are to debut or play 5 or 6 of the 20 and under group, I think these are the most likely;
Jacob Weitering
Charlie Curnow
Jack Silvagni
David Cuningham
Caleb Marchbank
Jarrod Pickett
Keep in mind Bolton said play, not debut.
Hard to see SPS getting in ahead of those with only one internal practice match under his belt. If I had to pick a next in line I suspect one of the two smalls might be a chance, Fisher or Polson.
But there are rumors SPS has some family visiting.
But there are rumors SPS has some family visiting.
I think you should be leaving rumours alone LP.
I think you should be leaving rumours alone LP.
Are you from WA Sandsmere?
I think it's unlikely, but when a couple are from a small town like Halls Creek word gets around. They could just as easily be heading into Darwin, Broome or to Melbourne to see the F1 with their son on the last long weekend he gets until mid-season.
It's only a small town Halls Creek, when someone leaves everyone notices the lights change brightness! ;D
I reckon he's in!
I reckon he's in!
Daisy?
I thought Bolton said as much this morning, "more goals from the midfield - murph, Cripps, Gibbs, daisy"
SPS in
No Palmer, no Kerridge, Thomas survives
Backs: Lachie Plowman, Jacob Weitering, Kade Simpson
Half-backs: Dale Thomas, Sam Rowe, Caleb Marchbank
Centre: Sam Docherty, Bryce Gibbs, Jarrod Pickett
Half-forwards: Dennis Armfield, Levi Casboult, Matthew Wright
Forwards: Ed Curnow, Jack Silvagni, Simon White
Followers: Matthew Kreuzer, Patrick Cripps, Marc Murphy (C)
Interchange: Jed Lamb, Charlie Curnow, Sam Petrevski-Seton, Billie Smedts
Emergencies: Harrison Macreadie, Rhys Palmer, Sam Kerridge
New: Petrevski-Seton, Marchbank, Pickett, Smedts
Thomas In :o :o :o :o Purlease no
No Palmer, no Kerridge, Thomas survives
Kerro was horrible during JLT. White should buy a Tatts ticket for himself and Daisy as they are very lucky indeed.
Shows if you waste the ball then you're out re Kerro
Thomas aside - I'm rapt.
About as perfect a R1 team as I could have hoped for.
Looks a very respective team on paper.
I'm excited!!!!
Now that I look at it, Richmond don't look that crash hot on paper.
Reckon Palmer and/or Kerridge will play...Weitering will play forward given that lineup IMO...
Jed Lamb?.......wouldnt be in my team based on previous form and JLT work..
if we can get some of our younger guys up to speed to replace, Daisy, White, Army... we will be more than competitive.
Why play Lamb and Thomas when we want to develop players like Cunningham? DC needs as much time as possible in the firsts.
Why play Lamb and Thomas when we want to develop players like Cunningham? DC needs as much time as possible in the firsts.
x2..I would have played DC ahead of others...think Bolton though is worried about having too many "boys" in the team...
Plowman on Martin....?
Lamb and Thomas should buy Lotto tickets.
I'd have played MacCreadie and Cunningham.
x2..I would have played DC ahead of others...think Bolton though is worried about having too many "boys" in the team...
Agree cant play every kid we have in the one match.
We tried that in the second practice match and it was a disaster.
Why play Lamb and Thomas when we want to develop players like Cunningham? DC needs as much time as possible in the firsts.
Because BB has said from the first few weeks that he arrived at Carlton that senior games have to be earned not gifted.
That's the reason that Clem Smith and DVR didn't get games last year.
Then how do you explain the selection of Thomas?
Are you from WA Sandsmere?
No. I was talking about your major stuff- up about Cripps going to Fremantle but not playing.
You couldn't even get the game right.
Not a bad line-up.
I don't really see Jack as a FF though.
Not a bad line-up.
I don't really see Jack as a FF though.
Cas at FF, Weitering at CHF and Jack in the pocket or on the flank is how i think we will setup.....
Why play Lamb and Thomas when we want to develop players like Cunningham? DC needs as much time as possible in the firsts.
The club still wants to win games, it's not throwing out respect just for the sake of selling hope.
No. I was talking about your major stuff- up about Cripps going to Fremantle but not playing.
You couldn't even get the game right.
I'm not from WA either, I rely on rumors from across the bite about those issues.
On the SPS rumor, that came from the dad of a FIFO miner who was told by his son the parents of SPS were flying out of Broome earlier this week. It's a small world, ask Kevin Bacon.
Anyway, good luck to the kid, there hasn't been a zero game player with such a ready made rap since Kane Lucas.
So did anyone nail the rnd 1 team selection in the earlier threads?
The club still wants to win games, it's not throwing out respect just for the sake of selling hope.
Please tell me how playing Thomas or Lamb over Cunningham will get us the win? If either gets over 15 possessions I'd be amazed.
JLT, Cunningham took the most aggressive run of the whole team. He needs game time and neither Thomas or Lamb has a future with us.
Please tell me how playing Thomas or Lamb over Cunningham will get us the win? If either gets over 15 possessions I'd be amazed.
JLT, Cunningham took the most aggressive run of the whole team. He needs game time and neither Thomas or Lamb has a future with us.
They dont have much of a future, but team balance is essential and more so in the context of a long season. Those left out will get their chances, and those that perform will get the opportunity to play week in, week out.
Building a strong list is the goal for this and the next season/s. This is just one game of many.
Nevertheless, go blues!
Well feck it, I'll back that side in then. Rnd 1 is a hard one and more than ever, it's really only those in the inner sanctum knowing why player x was picked and player y wasn't. JLT is so Micky Mouse that you cant rely on it as a form guide. There's no form from the 2's like later rounds, its all based on work done during the PS and all the special little things that are done that the general public don't see or know about. For example:
- SPS selection - Not a game played, not a blow struck as far as the public knows. Bang, selected round 1. He must be so special that he may well be an auto selection every week. Has speed, skill and makes good, fast decisions. Things lacking in a lot of our blokes.
- Daisy - Would I have picked him? No. Would many others here have picked him? Mostly not. But there must be something that they need him to do hence his selection. Plus there is the balance btw youth and experience that must be maintained.
- White - Turnover and mistake merchant. But he can do roles when required and is quite disciplined at them. He will probably go to Dusty at some stage and try and unsettle him with a bit of old fashioned niggle.
So in the end, I have one thing to say.
Go Blues.
They dont have much of a future, but team balance is essential and more so in the context of a long season. Those left out will get their chances, and those that perform will get the opportunity to play week in, week out.
Building a strong list is the goal for this and the next season/s. This is just one game of many.
Nevertheless, go blues!
Again explain to me how swapping a decrepit player like Thomas for Cunningham upsets the balance. Do we really need to carry two below average players neither of whom made our top 10 B&F when we have a future 200 gamer needing experience. Let him run out in front of 70,000, where they say a playing in front of a big crowd is worth 2 games of experience.
Please tell me how playing Thomas or Lamb over Cunningham will get us the win? If either gets over 15 possessions I'd be amazed.
JLT, Cunningham took the most aggressive run of the whole team. He needs game time and neither Thomas or Lamb has a future with us.
You might not have a match winner with Daisy, but you won't win a game with an unbalanced list and it's as simple as that. Our club obviously thinks it has a better than 50/50 chance to win this one.
This is AFL not TAC Cup, clubs cannot player half a team of kids, Cripps said as much discussing the pre-season games.
If Cuningham or Fisher come in, one of those other four would have to go out.
Well feck it, I'll back that side in then. Rnd 1 is a hard one and more than ever, it's really only those in the inner sanctum knowing why player x was picked and player y wasn't. JLT is so Micky Mouse that you cant rely on it as a form guide. There's no form from the 2's like later rounds, its all based on work done during the PS and all the special little things that are done that the general public don't see or know about. For example:
- SPS selection - Not a game played, not a blow struck as far as the public knows. Bang, selected round 1. He must be so special that he may well be an auto selection every week. Has speed, skill and makes goog, fast decisions. Things lacking in a lot of our blokes.
- Daisy - Would I have picked him? No. Would many others here have picked him? Mostly not. But there must be something that they need him to do hence his selection. Plus there is the balance btw youth and experience that must be maintained.
- White - Turnover and mistake merchant. But he can do roles when required and is quite disciplined at them. He will probably go to Dusty at some stage and try and unsettle him with a bit of old fashioned niggle.
So in the end, I have one thing to say.
Go Blues.
Very sensible appraisal GTC, I share your confidence.
Some stats for the Rnd 1 Team:
Average Age: 25.2 years
Average No. of Games: 85.5
Again explain to me how swapping a decrepit player like Thomas for Cunningham upsets the balance. Do we really need to carry two below average players neither of whom made our top 10 B&F when we have a future 200 gamer needing experience. Let him run out in front of 70,000, where they say a playing in front of a big crowd is worth 2 games of experience.
He may have a niggle, he may be crook, we dont know. He has time on his side, patience Grasshopper.
Again explain to me how swapping a decrepit player like Thomas for Cunningham upsets the balance. Do we really need to carry two below average players neither of whom made our top 10 B&F when we have a future 200 gamer needing experience. Let him run out in front of 70,000, where they say a playing in front of a big crowd is worth 2 games of experience.
Cunningham will get plenty of chances. We have a young side already, and just like retaining gibbs, playing thomas gets some experience in the side. He is our only player with a premiership medel. Without wishing to turn this into a thomas discussion (we have a long thread for that!) he adds experience and i would think some leadership to the backline.
Playing the kids is fine when they can play alongside some experienced hands, even if they have limited futures. This is why we recruited the likes of palmer and alex sivagni. Neither of them are going to set the team alight, but they might speed up the development of the young players by adding experience here and there. Otherwise we are back to where we were when murphy and gibbs were belted up in their first seasons with the likes of whitnall and stevens to lead them. ::)
You might not have a match winner with Daisy, but you won't win a game with an unbalanced list and it's as simple as that. Our club obviously thinks it has a better than 50/50 chance to win this one.
This is AFL not TAC Cup, clubs cannot player half a team of kids, Cripps said as much discussing the pre-season games.
If Cuningham or Fisher come in, one of those other four would have to go out.
Yet again.... replacing Thomas with Cunningham would not unbalance the list. Both would have a similar impact, I'd wager that Cunningham will run faster after an opponent and be able to kick and keep it in bounds.
Cunningham has a decent sized body and is capable of competing. I never spoke of Fisher, while I like the kids endeavour, he is truly undersized. As the team is listed Docherty will not line up on the wing nor will Thomas at half back. Cunningham could play on the wing, Daisy will be sitting in the forward pocket, as he is a liability further up the field. So with that in mind Cunningham's inclusion would give us more flexibility, but if we need two duds to play to give us "balance" as I've been informed twice, then there is no way we are serious about developing youth.
They is very little chance we will win this game, we will finish bottom four, probably bottom 2 and that's fine if we see a Cunningham type taking the game on and stuffing up, rather than Daisy get the ball and kick it out on the full, we've seen that or Lamb look too scared to put his head over the ball then push someone like a tough man.
Again explain to me how swapping a decrepit player like Thomas for Cunningham upsets the balance. Do we really need to carry two below average players neither of whom made our top 10 B&F when we have a future 200 gamer needing experience. Let him run out in front of 70,000, where they say a playing in front of a big crowd is worth 2 games of experience.
You've missed the point completely, those first gamers in front of 70000 will be like Neo first time in The Matrix, distracted by the woman in red, hyperventilating and oblivious as the evil agents have their way!
Thomas, White, Armfield, like them of hate them, they've been there and done that. What they lack in one area their experience more than covers. I made the analogy between McLean and Thomas once before, McLean was even slower than Thomas but just seemed to find himself in space at the right moment. Not by accident, but because experience helped him know where to be and when. Doing the smart stuff and managing themselves through a game like beginners cannot. It's an aspect of playing AFL a lot of the kids just don't have, and it has nothing to do with ability or fitness. They'll get plenty of opportunity to gain experience, but not all at once and not in the majority.
When those younguns get hyped in the first 5 mins they'll most likely be blown up by halftime, you just cannot carry more than 3 or 4 first gamers for that reason alone.
I reckon Cuningham & Macreadie have every chance to deliver to the same level that Thomas & Lamb would, the difference being that the two young guys would gain some much valued senior experience.
I understand that people are suggesting that players should be rewarded with selection for various things but I'm struggling to understand what Thomas & Lamb have done that is better than the other two lads.
I understand that people are suggesting that players should be rewarded with selection for various things but I'm struggling to understand what Thomas & Lamb have done that is better than the other two lads.
Sheik, the tell has been coming from the club officials and senior players for a couple of weeks. Why wouldn't you trust the comments coming form Bolton, his assistants, Gibbs, Kreuzer, Simpson and Murphy? They have all pumped up Daisy in recent weeks.
It's just that supporters are biased by past performances which they cannot move past.
Nobody inside the AFL takes the JLT seriously, even the media beat it up but they know it means nothing. Cripps highlighted that fact in the video posted on the club website, in one JLT game we had a dozen first season players on the field at the same time, that's another tell.
The only thing that disturbs me is the skills, or apparent lack of skills, that is a development issue and not related to pre-season matches.
Good to see a few young guys get their opportunities and looking forward to seeing them play for the first time. Our forward division looks a bit thin to me though and our mids will need to be very busy both helping out with the goal kicking and running both ways. Army and White will definitely need to focus on keeping the ball in our F50 as much as possible, and causing Tiger turnovers.
I'm pretty happy with that line up.
Like others, I'm not convinced that Lamb and Thomas have earned their places but I don't think Cuningham (note the spelling!) and Macreadie have done more at this stage. They will get their opportunities in due course. I would have had Palmer in the 22 before Lamb or Thomas but it's probably a line ball.
White has a pretty good record against Martin and I'd be expecting that match up, not that I'd be surprised if it didn't happen.
I'm changing my prediction from winning by a goal kicked after the siren to a comfortable 3-4 goal margin.
Looks good on paper. Congratulations to those debuting in the Navy jumper.
Noticed Docherty in the centre and Ed down forward, although realize they'll mix it up.
OK. Cannot contain my excitement.... I can't wait to see young Sammo debut. My prediction in another thread was he'll have a debut game like "young Walker". I'll probs have a coronary if he does.
Go new Blues.
Blues by 7.
Looks good on paper. Congratulations to those debuting in the Navy jumper.
Noticed Docherty in the centre and Ed down forward, although realize they'll mix it up.
OK. Cannot contain my excitement.... I can't wait to see young Sammo debut. My prediction in another thread was he'll have a debut game like "young Walker". I'll probs have a coronary if he does.
Go new Blues.
Blues by 7.
I share your hopes about SPS. With all due respect to Weiters who was fantastic last year, but FMD we are long overdue for one of our top draft picks to debut make the footy world stand up and really take notice. Could SPS be "The One"? I feckin hope so.
Go Blues
Jack and Griffith aside the tigers look small up front, where as we with Rowe,Marchbank, Weiters and Plowman look big?!?
All but guarantees one of them to go forward. I see Marchbank to Griffith, and Plowman to Jack, Weiters third/intercept tall defender. That leaves Rowe as defensive forward on Rance (he did have the most spoils last year, and Rance is the intercept king) White to Dusty to give him the crapes.
With all the hype over Nankervis, Kreuser's preseason form should leave him in his wake, thereby exposing the one paced Richmond midfield. Ed all over Cotchin, Cripps over powering the Caddy/Prestia combo, Murph and Gibbs stealing the show. Leaves the nimber 6 pick to run amok.
Goals need to be spread. Daisy and Pickett will prove to be a very useful goal kicking combo as demonstrated in the JLT (THEY DID MANAGE A FEW GOALS), Levi just needs to convert (very hopeful I know)
I am not that pessimistic, as today my daughter told me that her dalliance with the yellow and black is over and she is returning to the force, emboldens me to believe that indeed we can win this ;) ;)
Jack and Griffith aside the tigers look small up front, where as we with Rowe,Marchbank, Weiters and Plowman look big?!?
All but guarantees one of them to go forward. I see Marchbank to Griffith, and Plowman to Jack, Weiters third/intercept tall defender. That leaves Rowe as defensive forward on Rance (he did have the most spoils last year, and Rance is the intercept king) White to Dusty to give him the crapes.
With all the hype over Nankervis, Kreuser's preseason form should leave him in his wake, thereby exposing the one paced Richmond midfield. Ed all over Cotchin, Cripps over powering the Caddy/Prestia combo, Murph and Gibbs stealing the show. Leaves the nimber 6 pick to run amok.
Goals need to be spread. Daisy and Pickett will prove to be a very useful goal kicking combo as demonstrated in the JLT (THEY DID MANAGE A FEW GOALS), Levi just needs to convert (very hopeful I know)
I am not that pessimistic, as today my daughter told me that her dalliance with the yellow and black is over and she is returning to the force, emboldens me to believe that indeed we can win this ;) ;)
I'll go Rowe on Griffiths for the height factor, I think Prestia might need a tag...if someone can man up Lloyd it would be handy as well...Tigers forward line isnt great but they have a few players like Lloyd who seem to ar$e a few goals everytime we play them and they do kick straight..
Like to see Kruezer exploit Nankervis around the ground but I remain unconvinced about him dominating the ruck.....
Happy Lambert isnt playing, like Lloyd he is another under the radar player who likes playing us...
Reckon Pickett can kick a few vs the Tigers who are not great down back IMO and I reckon JackS can also hit the scoreboard....close game IMO...
Pretty happy with the team and think it is as good a team as we are going to see lineup this year.
Thomas will keep getting games unfortunately but feel for Cunningham. Glad to see Kerridge not make the cut as I think he is an athlete and nothing else, terrible game sense and skills and a depth player at best so glad others have gone past him.
Really like Smedts, Pickett, SPS and Armfield in there together providing some toe on the wings and high half forward.
I also like Weitering, Marchbank, Plowman and Rowe back. I don't think its too tall as Rowe and Marchbank can play the key lock down roles, let Weitering play on some hack and intercept and control the game from back there and Plowman to play on a 3rd tall type and not be undersized like he was a lot last year.
Lamb I don't mind getting a game as he gets goals and we just dont get enough. I like the mix of White, Silvagni and Curnow up forward with Casboult occupying Rance. I definitely think we are a chance and probaly be a close game.
One mob has no external expectations on them. The other is facing a' 'season defining' game in Round 1. One group has the reputation for having a 'pea heart' when the crunch is on, the other one has honest triers.
Pressure does funny things to vulnerable teams. Blues by 14 pts.
Absolutely no reason we can't win and win comfortably.
All the pressure is on the Tigers after their 'stellar' pre season.
Our following division is better, our back line much better and our forward line looks potent enough with Levi, Curnow jnr., SOJ, Pickett and Wright all good scoring options.
I expect Weitering to start forward too.
A few to any of Gibbs, Murphy, SPS or Crippa suggests to me we can score enough - say 12-14 goals to win.
I reckon if one of the talls from our defence go forward it will be Rowe.
He may have to spend some time in the ruck too.
We will need a bit of luck to go our way, but we are right in this game.
The pressure is all on Dimma and his grubs. Imagine the uproar at Punt Rd. if we knock them over.
I'll be happy if we are competitive for most of the game... please don't get smashed lads. I do expect us to hold our own in the midfield, so that should keep us in the game.
Bit shocked they went with SPS, but looking forward to seeing what he can do.
Really excited about tonight. But my expectations are for the very first time in line with where we are at in our development/reset.
Just looking forward to the recruits showing a bit and the rest of the squad developing together.
Hoping to see:
1. Pressure, and lots of it.
2. Slicker ball movement by hand and foot.
3. Competitive footy for 4 quarters.
4. Support for Cripps/Gibbs through the return of Murph and inclusion of SPS.
5. Kreuzer finally showing us what he's capable of again, been a long time between drinks
6. Marchbank, Pickett and Smedts adding something different.
7. And finally, some goals please. Kick it through the big sticks. No more long bombs into 50 we don't have Fev/Betts/Waite anymore.
Not expecting to win, but not expecting to lose. That's how i'm going to try and treat every game this year.
Go Blues 8)
I reckon Cuningham & Macreadie have every chance to deliver to the same level that Thomas & Lamb would, the difference being that the two young guys would gain some much valued senior experience.
I understand that people are suggesting that players should be rewarded with selection for various things but I'm struggling to understand what Thomas & Lamb have done that is better than the other two lads.
Seems Macreadie is going to play tonight. That's according to Sam McClure. Seems possibly for Thomas.
we should have beaten them Rd 1 last year but we choked...
We are and will be a better team in 2017, no question.
Donc, ....
All I want to see is clear, crisp ball movement into the F50 to give our forwards every chance to contribute.
I'm hopeful but far from confident, it's still a pretty weak Carlton side with a very questionable forward structure.
It's Richmond minus Deledio, and Vickery usually snagged a couple against us, so I'm not expecting a heavy defeat, but realistically we'll lose more than we win this season.
Just on sen, macreadie will be a late in
I'm hopeful but far from confident, it's still a pretty weak Carlton side with a very questionable forward structure.
It's Richmond minus Deledio, and Vickery usually snagged a couple against us, so I'm not expecting a heavy defeat, but realistically we'll lose more than we win this season.
The forward structure is the 'great unknown'. Kruz and the midfield are fully fit, so I think we should win enough ball to get the ball i50 enough to give ourselves a chance. If we can convert and put scoreboard pressure on them we are in with a big chance.
Selection at this time of the year is so hard for supporters to assess as their is so little exposed form - we don't see the majority of the work they have put in for 4-5 months behind closed doors, when the season starts it's all on display. Lamb did nothing in the JLT, but it looks like our plan is to run them off their feet and Lamb vs Kerridge or Palmer shows that we have gone for speed and mobility first and foremost. We will see if it works, but you have to trust BB that it is part of a plan.
I think the balance old vs new is pretty good. I think we have 6 Yr1/Yr2 players which is about the max you would want to play at this time of year on a big hard ground. The other guys like Cunningham / Macreadie will all get their chance, but Army and White for now add some muscle and experience to the balance of the team which is important when playing the new guys.
Go Blues......
Just on sen, macreadie will be a late in
Ok cool rate him, any idea who is out? Another tall in would think its one for one? Any one have info?
They only said it wasn't daisy.
I would suspect white.
Just on sen, macreadie will be a late in
https://twitter.com/sam_mcclure/status/844652627098927105
They only said it wasn't daisy.
I would suspect white.
The so-called mail says it seems to be Lamb.
More pace and better ball users, I'd be concerned if I were the tiges.
The so-called mail says it seems to be Lamb.
On another forum they're saying it's Lamb.
But it is only a rumour. Believe them at your peril.
Wouldn't mind seeing young Macreadie get a chance anyway.
The so-called mail says it seems to be Lamb.
I was a little surprised to see Lamb in the selected side. If it is Lamb and not Daisy then Daisy goes forward. Though I would have thought if it was lamb then Palmer or Kerridge would have come in, guess we'll know soon enough. Or maybe we're just starting rumours to unsettle the Tiggers? Ah, games.
I'm sorry, but this is not a team one should fear!
B Alex Rance, David Astbury, Dylan Grimes
HB Kamdyn McIntosh, Taylor Hunt, Brandon Ellis
C Nick Vlastuin, Shane Edwards, Shaun Grigg
HF Daniel Rioli, Sam Lloyd, Dan Butler
F Dustin Martin, Jack Riewoldt, Jason Castagna
FOL Toby Nankervis, Trent Cotchin, Josh Caddy
I/C Reece Conca, Ben Griffiths, Bachar Houli, Dion Prestia
EMG Ivan Maric, Kane Lambert, Anthony Miles
My worry is that Cripps will be there in name only - preseason injuries have a way of cruelling a season for players. We really need Cripps to offset Martin. Deledio's departure helps as he was their quarterback. The Tigers struggled to win without him. Great to have so much young talent coming in but young players are likely to be inconsistent not only over the season but also within a game.
Macreadie in but whos out?
LATE CHANGE! BLUES INCLUDE DRAFTEE
- Glenn McFarlane reports the Blues have made a change ...
CARLTON teenager Harrison Macreadie is set to make his AFL debut tonight after being told this morning he will be a late inclusion for the season-opening match against Richmond at the MCG.
It is understood Blues coach Brendon Bolton delivered the good news to the 18-year-old former Giants Academy defender.
He is set to be the fifth new face for Carlton tonight as they take on the Tigers, with Sam Petrevski-Seton, Jarrod Pickett, former Cat Billie Smedts and former Giant Caleb Marchbank also chosen in the selected side.
Macreadie, originally from Henty in New South Wales, was the club's 47th pick in last year's draft. He is athletic defender who also played in the midfield in the NEAFL last season.
Jacob Weitering, who was third in last year's Rising Star award as a defender, will likely start in attack tonight, with the Blues eager to increase their scoring capacity.
Weitering has been used as a swingman through the JLT Community Series and will continue to do so, but the belief is he will likely line-up in attack when the ball is bounced tonight.
Possibly for Curnow...was injured and would have to be under a cloud. :-\
Possibly for Curnow...was injured and would have to be under a cloud. :-\
Hope not, need Charlie running through the middle. Lamb, Daisy or White would be the preference.
Agree. I thought Curnow was actually very good against the saints when he had some time in the middle.
Backs: Lachie Plowman, Jacob Weitering, Kade Simpson
Half-backs: Dale Thomas, Sam Rowe, Caleb Marchbank
Centre: Sam Docherty, Bryce Gibbs, Jarrod Pickett
Half-forwards: Dennis Armfield, Levi Casboult, Matthew Wright
Forwards: Ed Curnow, Jack Silvagni, Simon White
Followers: Matthew Kreuzer, Patrick Cripps, Marc Murphy (C)
Interchange: Jed Lamb, Charlie Curnow, Sam Petrevski-Seton, Billie Smedts
Emergencies: Harrison Macreadie, Rhys Palmer, Sam Kerridge
New: Petrevski-Seton, Marchbank, Pickett, Smedts
Over the years our selections have made me wonder if I am Jon Snow ("You know nothing, Jon Snow!:) or Tyrion Lannister ("I drink and I know things.") and this is no exception. It may be genius, but....
I wouldn't have played SPS. The kid has got a future, but he hasn't even played a whole VFL game yet.
I would probably have played Kerridge before Smedts: neither are great kicks, but Kerridge has been slightly better so far.
I wouldn't have played Daisy. His form has been adequate at best.
I probably wouldn't have named Lamb, although rumour has him being the change for tonight.
Over the years our selections have made me wonder if I am Jon Snow ("You know nothing, Jon Snow!:) or Tyrion Lannister ("I drink and I know things.") and this is no exception. It may be genius, but....
I wouldn't have played SPS. The kid has got a future, but he hasn't even played a whole VFL game yet.
I would probably have played Kerridge before Smedts: neither are great kicks, but Kerridge has been slightly better so far.
I wouldn't have played Daisy. His form has been adequate at best.
I probably wouldn't have named Lamb, although rumour has him being the change for tonight.
That's pretty close to my thinking. However, I suspect that the club is better able to judge whether Sammo is ready to play. I don't think that they would risk him if he's not.
It is interesting to read where Carlton and Richmond were and think they are going.
Richmond finished with 8 wins and a percentage of 79.5 coming in at an unfamiliar 13th
Carlton finished with 7 wins and a percentage of 79.3 finishing 14th.
We will send out 3 (Macreadie possibly) first games and another 3 with less than 10 games experience. They have a first gamer in Butler but really a seasoned and experienced team with a few new faces, Prestia being the best. Nankervis who is being talked up, will be shown how to play first ruck by Kruezer.
We don't have an identity yet, whereas Richmond is trying to change theirs. Carlton have the chance to ruin their season in the first game by applying pressure, something that was lacking in the JLT series. If we stop the "Tiger running game" they will go back into their shells and kick backwards sideways and miss targets.
If we can get our run and link up play going, as well as first use by Cripps then we may have Hardwickes neck on a swivel.
It is interesting to read where Carlton and Richmond were and think they are going.
Richmond finished with 8 wins and a percentage of 79.5 coming in at an unfamiliar 13th
Carlton finished with 7 wins and a percentage of 79.3 finishing 14th.
We will send out 3 (Macreadie possibly) first games and another 3 with less than 10 games experience. They have a first gamer in Butler but really a seasoned and experienced team with a few new faces, Prestia being the best. Nankervis who is being talked up, will be shown how to play first ruck by Kruezer.
We don't have an identity yet, whereas Richmond is trying to change theirs. Carlton have the chance to ruin their season in the first game by applying pressure, something that was lacking in the JLT series. If we stop the "Tiger running game" they will go back into their shells and kick backwards sideways and miss targets.
If we can get our run and link up play going, as well as first use by Cripps then we may have Hardwickes neck on a swivel.
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Won't get within 10 goals.......just a horrible, horrible lineup.......will be the first of the weekly beltings we'll routinely be on the end of this year.....
Won't get within 10 goals.......just a horrible, horrible lineup.......will be the first of the weekly beltings we'll routinely be on the end of this year.....
Mark us down for the win.
My take is our better players - say top 6-8 guys - are considerably better than theirs....
It's these blokes that win games, the rest just fill in the spaces - or are made to look good by the others.
Carlton - Gibbs, Murph, Crippa, Special K, Weitering, Docherty (then Simmo, Marchbank)
Richmond - Dusty, Cotchin, Jack, then.....Rance, then.....Prestia/Caddy (both unproven next to our 3 listed guys).
I think we have more X factor than the Tiges too - Charlie Curnow, SPS and Smedts for example.
I think Charlie needs one breakout game then he'll be a gun in waiting.
Smedts - his best is exceptional, hopefully he'll get a decent run of games and get back to that level.
Won't get within 10 goals.......just a horrible, horrible lineup.......will be the first of the weekly beltings we'll routinely be on the end of this year.....
Got out of the wrong side of the bed Brettie? Or using reverse psychology? ;)
It is interesting to read where Carlton and Richmond were and think they are going.
Richmond finished with 8 wins and a percentage of 79.5 coming in at an unfamiliar 13th
Carlton finished with 7 wins and a percentage of 79.3 finishing 14th.
We will send out 3 (Macreadie possibly) first games and another 3 with less than 10 games experience. They have a first gamer in Butler but really a seasoned and experienced team with a few new faces, Prestia being the best. Nankervis who is being talked up, will be shown how to play first ruck by Kruezer.
We don't have an identity yet, whereas Richmond is trying to change theirs. Carlton have the chance to ruin their season in the first game by applying pressure, something that was lacking in the JLT series. If we stop the "Tiger running game" they will go back into their shells and kick backwards sideways and miss targets.
If we can get our run and link up play going, as well as first use by Cripps then we may have Hardwickes neck on a swivel.
I heard Hardwick say on radio the other day that they will be trying a different game style, something people wont expect. I suspect it will be run and gun at all costs. Lets hope they stuff it up.
Macreadie to play tonight. Hopefully it's bloke like White or Thomas that is withdrawn.
David Cuningham is stiff not to play. He's shown more than Thomas, White, Armfield, Lamb, Palmer and Kerridge IMHO. He's the future, and can handle himself. I'd have for certain played him.
David Cuningham is stiff not to play. He's shown more than Thomas, White, Armfield, Lamb, Palmer and Kerridge IMHO. He's the future, and can handle himself. I'd have for certain played him.
More than a few supporters have no time for Cuningham but I think he has considerable potential. The only reservation I have about him is that he tends to drift out of games. If he can address that and be more consistent, I'm sure that he'll be a regular in the 22.
Got out of the wrong side of the bed Brettie? Or using reverse psychology? ;)
Thomas, Rowe, Casboult.....*gulp*
Our JLT form does mean something.......ranked 18th for points for & against.......absolute horror show.
On the bright side, it's a lovely day!!!
Problem is Brettie is that there isn't anybody else.
yet Brettie, we almost beat them Rd 1 last year and we're a better outfit this year (assuming a decent level of intensity is applied).
A round 1 team including these youngsters is a good start:
Cripps
Docherty
Weitering
Plowman
J.Silvagni
C.Curnow
Marchbank
Pickett
Petrevski-Seton
Macreadie
10 of our brightest young stars on our 2017 list.
Waiting in the wings - McKay, Cuningham, Jaksch, Fisher, Kerr, Polson, Williamson, Lebois. All bar Kym Lebois are playing the VFL scratch match this arvo/night. Good to see Sheehan named among others.
Overlaid with experienced guys like:
Cripps
Murphy
Gibbs
Kreuzer
Wright
Simmo
Rowe
Army
Smedts
Daisy (just)
Thomas, Rowe, Casboult.....*gulp*
Our JLT form does mean something.......ranked 18th for points for & against.......absolute horror show.
On the bright side, it's a lovely day!!!
Dont disagree our JLT form was woeful and we lack scoring power but this is Richmond we are playing and they are an average unit IMO, contain about three or four of their best players and
we are a big chance...
Not saying we are going to win but I expect way better than the JLT series...
LAMB out... Mcreadie In. Good luck to the Kid. Pick 47 or whatever to round 1!
Weitering to play forward.
LAMB out... Mcreadie In. Good luck to the Kid. Pick 47 or whatever to round 1!
Weitering to play forward.
Macreadie was very highly rated by GWS as a 16yo and was touted as a top 5 pick then they moved him to NSW and I gather it (the move) didn't work for him and affected his form...thus his slide down the draft.
I doubt that Carlton might have had any influence in that loss of form :o ???
Very windy at the G. Not great for our skills!!!
Very windy at the G. Not great for our skills!!!
The wind won't make our skills worse. It just gives us an out.
Tiggies getting goals over the back to easy, bit worried about Charlie. Seems to be spectating a lot and not impacting the contests at all, SPS looks the goods, 3 goals at qtr time, I can live with that.