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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Best 22 of 2024 - Part 3 - After Round 6
Last post by kruddler -
What I found from the exercise is that we've got a pretty good VFL team when there are few injuries. ;D

I found we have about 10 players who are 23rd on our list.

For the record,
FB - Newman - Weitering - Boyd
HB - McGovern - Kemp - Saad
W - O.Hollands - Cerra - Acres
HF - Cuningham - McKay - Cottrell
FF - Fogarty  - Curnow - Owies
R - De Koning - Cripps - Hewett
Int - Walsh - Williams - Martin - Kennedy

23rd......
E. Hollands
Pittonet
Cincotta
Motlop
C. Durdin
Carroll
Marchbank
Fantasia
N/A
Silvagni
Docherty
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG
Last post by kruddler -
MBB’s post from the post GWS game thread:

Apart from destroying the “Charlie doesn’t defend” nonsense, it illustrates one aspect of Fantasia’s game that goes largely unnoticed.

As Thry has pointed out, Fantasia’s leadership is another reason why he is in the team. We have more than our share of relatively inexperienced players and Fantasia’s guidance and encouragement is invaluable.

Is Fantasia in our best 23? Probably not, but he will continue to be selected until Martin and Motlop are back in the mix.

Playing devils advocate, when i posted similar stats, people didn't like them because a pressure act was deemed to be the ability of created pressure without actually doing anything. Like chasing rather than catching.

I did a comparison of tackles, and Fantasia is well behind the other small forwards.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS
Last post by DJC -
One or two games of stats won't make a big difference to overall stats, but after a couple of games the umpiring effectively forced TDK into changing his technique when there wasn't anything actually wrong with it. All because of Scott whinging.

We had plenty of debate about this at the time, and the influence of our ruck coaches, surely you remember.

Think back to the Geelong game last season.  De Koning hurt Stanley with a fairly crude knee to the ribs.  De Koning was slapped with a $3,000 fine and Scott did complain about Stanley's injury in his post game presser.  We appealed and Tom was exonerated.  In the games following, De Koning's free kicks against were 1, 0, 1, 3, 5, 3, 0 ...  The five frees came in the Essendon game where the umpires favoured Essendon with 32 frees to 18.  The frees paid against De Koning were all in general play; two for in the back and one for chopping the arms in marking contests, one for high contact and one for holding the man.  In fact, it is very clear that the umpires did not adjudicate De Koning's ruck contests any differently than they did before the Geelong game

De Koning's technique may have changed marginally in that he is not so blatant when he targets the opposition rucks.  However, it's still the same technique, just more effective than it was.

Chris Scott has nowhere near the influence that you credit him with.  On the other hand, I suspect the AFL listens carefully to comments and suggestions from Princes Park.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2024 Post Game Review Carlton vs GWS
Last post by townsendcalling -
Geelong have traveled 3 times already this year, played in the rain last week, are very conscious of overloading their aging players (Hawkins rested recently) and have played Saints, Adelaide, Hawthorn, Bullies, North and Brisbane.

Have they REALLY been put to the sword, especially away from their paddock??  A similar situation to GWS last week, they have the wins....but against who??  They are ripe for the picking!!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG
Last post by DJC -
Don't mind replacing Fantasia, but Moir is still a fair way off. He will be given plenty of time to develop before being paraded out a la Binns. With one or two exceptions, we are right into development and ensuring young players have served a comprehensive apprenticeship.

Yes, there's plenty of time for Moir, Binns, Monahan, O'Keeffe, Lemmey, etc.  We're not in the position where we have to expose our "green shoots" to the harshness of AFL footy before they have toughened up.