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Title: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: kruddler on March 22, 2020, 04:24:08 pm
Its official, season has been suspended.

Press conference @ 430 today

https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-shuts-down-2020-season-as-governments-move-to-lock-down-australia-c-756961?
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: northernblue on March 22, 2020, 04:31:49 pm
Our first winless season ? 🙈
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: laj on March 22, 2020, 04:33:18 pm
Until May 31, which is only a target date, rather than firm. We'll get most of our injured players back. All bar Kreuzer and Charlie. May 31 would've been round 11 so Charlie might not be far off by then. We'll miss Kreuzer then for 6 weeks.

https://www.gold1043.com.au/sport/afl-season-suspended-following-government-action/?fbclid=IwAR23168xGFTuqAw1Ss6lQINGasJiG9lqScG1yaEzRmJVZYAWiCoNQWViZFY
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: PaulP on March 22, 2020, 04:34:41 pm
Not exactly a surprise I guess.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: northernblue on March 22, 2020, 04:35:31 pm
They only canned it because our aflw team won their final...
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: laj on March 22, 2020, 04:38:52 pm
Women's season has been cancelled and the premiers winners left vacant.

https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-shuts-down-2020-season-as-governments-move-to-lock-down-australia-c-756961?fbclid=IwAR1w422eg1W9pT9NDDrB6mXPDbNDdhT1RXud3LZuVnXETQ-BJBtWLqkq0k8
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: laj on March 22, 2020, 04:56:27 pm
Training is suspended too.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: capcom on March 22, 2020, 05:06:38 pm
A season into November?  You gotta be kidding.  Draft order for 2021 and based on what?

Cancelling the whole damned thing might have been the wiser decision and give some certainty to next year.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: cookie2 on March 22, 2020, 05:57:58 pm
A season into November?  You gotta be kidding.  Draft order for 2021 and based on what?

Cancelling the whole damned thing might have been the wiser decision and give some certainty to next year.

That may well be what eventually happens.  :(
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: kruddler on March 22, 2020, 06:06:57 pm
Cancelled the AFLW when there is a grand total of 3 games left, all finals.

Suspend the AFL season even though there has only been 1 round played.
Just cancel the thing now and put everyone out of our misery.

If the world recovers from Corona virus in time, play some exhibition matches, state or origin round robin or whatever else.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: PaulP on March 22, 2020, 06:16:56 pm
What the next few months looks like...................

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufDqfQxPnJo
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: LP on May 03, 2020, 10:13:03 am
I can't see the AFL ever going back to the myriad of assistants, trainers and medicos, it was just way over the top and COVID-19 has been the trigger the AFL needed to get that under control. The AFL by accident was delivered a way to pry the parasites off it's teat!

I wonder if the AFL will try to take the same opportunity to pull the AFLPA and Club Playing Lists into some sort of rational realignment?
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: capcom on May 03, 2020, 11:32:35 am
... and taking that through to its logical conclusion, it'd extend to all other sports and businesses.  The AFL and clubs are not sacred cows immune from change. 
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: LP on May 03, 2020, 02:01:28 pm
... and taking that through to its logical conclusion, it'd extend to all other sports and businesses.  The AFL and clubs are not sacred cows immune from change.
Most commercial business is already pretty lean though, AFL was bloated and suffering extreme nepotism, perhaps some charities and bureaucracies are more analogous to AFL.

When you look at what some clubs were doing off field in terms of coaching and match-day staffing, those of us who tend towards sarcasm might be forgiven for thinking the clubs were basically making sure they were non-profit!
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: LP on May 03, 2020, 08:04:39 pm
Dangerfield loud and proud.

I'm clearly biased, but to me this bloke wants to give nothing and get everything in return, he seems not to have even a minuscule of interest in what is best for the sport in general, yet he dresses his opinion up as exactly that!

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/play-it-forward-dangerfield-warns-cuts-would-damage-football-20200503-p54peo.html
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: PaulP on May 03, 2020, 09:07:28 pm
I'm guessing Dangerfield speaks to the players and represents the majority opinion, as opposed to going off half cocked and just pleasing himself ? It should hardly come as a surprise that he advocates for the status quo, which helps the entire player pool.

At any rate, I think this drastically different post-covid world scenario is being somewhat overstated. There will surely be a period of relative austerity, but once things are back on track I expect the AFL arms race to resume, and we will be back to where we were before all this erupted.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: flyboy77 on May 03, 2020, 10:06:04 pm
It's BS, it's done, here and NZ at least.

we might get a modest 'cluster' here or there but even that is highly unlikely.

The thing doesn't linger in cupboards or drawers for months...

That said, the SD rules will endure to some extent but it must be unwound carefully. Absolutely.

Bottom line, Dan's just being a socialist twat. There is no science to support his current position.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Thryleon on May 04, 2020, 04:01:38 pm
I'm guessing Dangerfield speaks to the players and represents the majority opinion, as opposed to going off half cocked and just pleasing himself ? It should hardly come as a surprise that he advocates for the status quo, which helps the entire player pool.

At any rate, I think this drastically different post-covid world scenario is being somewhat overstated. There will surely be a period of relative austerity, but once things are back on track I expect the AFL arms race to resume, and we will be back to where we were before all this erupted.
Agree

It's BS, it's done, here and NZ at least.

we might get a modest 'cluster' here or there but even that is highly unlikely.

The thing doesn't linger in cupboards or drawers for months...

That said, the SD rules will endure to some extent but it must be unwound carefully. Absolutely.

Bottom line, Dan's just being a socialist twat. There is no science to support his current position.

Its hard to say this with absolute confidence.

Either the situation was highly over stated (doubtful) or we are yet to really run the race with this particularly virus (plausible).

The major issue I see with this is we still have a number of new cases on a daily basis which indicates the virus is still not fully contained, and most people will not have built any sort of immunity to it.

As far as I am concerned all we have done with this virus is kick the can down the road, and prepared the health services for an onslaught that may or may not arise, but the concensus (around where I work anyway) is generally that our peak is still going to be in June.

For anyone who wants to know, the statistics on Influenza nationally for april of 2019 (confirmed positive tests 18370).  For 2020, April saw a little over 100 (99 at last measure early last week).  If our distancing has that sort of affect on Influenza, and we still saw 6000+ positive Corona cases, we might still see a lot worse than anyone is expecting unless the virus is eradicated, and its worth noting that we have a Flu Vaccine.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: flyboy77 on May 05, 2020, 05:50:30 pm
Not so.

These things follow well established pathways.

Then there's recent research like this - https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.24.20078717v1

You do understand that the lock down we have experienced is not the way these  pandemics are normally dealt with?

Normally, you quarantine the infected and those who will be in deep poo poo if they catch it (the old and immuno compromised).

Our kids and we folk should be getting the f... on with it.

It really is not rocket science.

Dan Andrews is just pulling his pud now.

The testing (which isn't even the antibody test i gather) is a total waste of space and money ($200 a pop I've heard). It proves/shows nothing relevant.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: flyboy77 on May 05, 2020, 06:34:54 pm
ps it does show whether you presently have the bug!
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: LP on May 05, 2020, 07:56:46 pm
Then there's recent research like this - https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.24.20078717v1
Thomas MeunierRESEARCH ASSOCIATE IIIPhysical OceanographyClark
I have to look at each article in it's context. It's the only article ever published in that area of research under that name, in two unrelated locations. It's highly likely to be either a bot written fake article that has hijacked the authors name, a common tactic used by predatory journals that is now also being exploited for political purposes. The two sites have not provided any peer review as yet.

Even if it's genuine it's a non-specialist publishing an article on a highly specialist subject, so in other words just another opinion like the rest of us! Twitter isn't peer review.

Nice article published HERE in Arstechnica (https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/a-lot-of-covid-19-papers-havent-been-peer-reviewed-reader-beware/) on the problems with Pre-Print archives.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Thryleon on May 05, 2020, 10:29:16 pm
Not so.

These things follow well established pathways.

Then there's recent research like this - https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.24.20078717v1

You do understand that the lock down we have experienced is not the way these  pandemics are normally dealt with?

Normally, you quarantine the infected and those who will be in deep poo poo if they catch it (the old and immuno compromised).

Our kids and we folk should be getting the f... on with it.

It really is not rocket science.

Dan Andrews is just pulling his pud now.

The testing (which isn't even the antibody test i gather) is a total waste of space and money ($200 a pop I've heard). It proves/shows nothing relevant.

Normally....

I'm 37 years old.

I've yet to live through anything like this.  I'd wager most people 20 years my senior haven't either.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: LP on May 05, 2020, 10:58:17 pm
Normally....

I'm 37 years old.

I've yet to live through anything like this.  I'd wager most people 20 years my senior haven't either.
They are implementing the lessons learned form SARS and MERS, so Flyboy77 is partially correct, what they are doing now is not like what they did in the past, because they were so so wrong in the past!
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Evidence indicates that a modern approach to quarantine encompassing a range of options designed to reduce the frequency of social contact can significantly reduce the spread of infectious disease. Such options include short-term, voluntary home curfew; suspension or cancellation of public activities (such as events, mass transit, or access to public buildings); and “snow day” or sheltering-in-place measures. These measures could be employed individually or in concert. In addition to or in place of these strategies, a program of contact surveillance—the monitoring of asymptomatic persons exposed to an infectious disease—could be undertaken.

Copyright © 2004, National Academy of Sciences.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK92465/
This is an excerpt from a book published in 2004 called Learning from SARS, a book with multiple heavily qualified authors and fully peer reviewed by disease specialists. A reference manual they had available and studied at military academies all over the world as part of training for biological warfare. Yet for many weeks the USA, Britain and other countries failed to react due to stupidly thinking closing borders did something. It was a stupid of a reaction as building a wall to stop foreigners! They were guessing about what COVID-19 would be like, and in the end got it wrong paying a massive price that is nowhere yet near it's peak!

It's not a political tome written after the fact like much of the Twitter quoted rubbish floating around!
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Mav on May 05, 2020, 11:05:40 pm
You do understand that the lock down we have experienced is not the way these  pandemics are normally dealt with?

Normally, you quarantine the infected and those who will be in deep poo poo if they catch it (the old and immuno compromised).
Hmmm ... the infected are isolated. Those who haven't yet been shown to be infected or uninfected but who, for instance, have come from areas of infection are put into quarantine. Think horses coming in to run in the Melbourne Cup. Perhaps I'm being a bit pedantic. it's not as though you're an expert epidemiologist or medical practitioner. Nor am I. Us non-experts don't really know the terminology or niceties involved in this area. I guess that's why we need the experts.

One of the difficulties with Covid-19 is that it is spread by asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic people. If only infected people turned purple or spat blood from their eyes, isolating the infected would be so much easier.

By the way, I was a bit stunned to find that I'm in the vulnerable category. When I went to the doctor for a check-up, he gave me a blood pressure test and it seems I have hypertension. My record was 164/108. And until Covid-19 came along, I was playing tennis and footy and had no symptoms. That's why they call it the silent killer. Apparently, half of Americans over 50 have elevated blood pressure and I guess Aussies would be similar.

The immuno-compromised might not be all that vulnerable. The immune response of older people might be too extreme: as with lupus, the cytokine storm attacks lungs and other organs and the damage pushes the patients closer to death. Younger people have a relatively weak immune response and that might be a godsend for them.

Strangely enough, some studies suggest nicotine might confer some protection against contracting Covid-19, with nicotine patches being assessed as a prophylactic. The downside for smokers is that they fare much worse if they do catch it.

Long story short, it's a bit hard to figure out who is vulnerable and who isn't. No doubt the experts will understand more as time goes on but armchair experts are kidding themselves if they think they know it all (Trump & Laura Ingraham, I'm looking at you).
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Thryleon on May 06, 2020, 08:36:49 am
They are implementing the lessons learned form SARS and MERS, so Flyboy77 is partially correct, what they are doing now is not like what they did in the past, because they were so so wrong in the past!This is an excerpt from a book published in 2004 called Learning from SARS, a book with multiple heavily qualified authors and fully peer reviewed by disease specialists. A reference manual they had available and studied at military academies all over the world as part of training for biological warfare. Yet for many weeks the USA, Britain and other countries failed to react due to stupidly thinking closing borders did something. It was a stupid of a reaction as building a wall to stop foreigners! They were guessing about what COVID-19 would be like, and in the end got it wrong paying a massive price that is nowhere yet near it's peak!

It's not a political tome written after the fact like much of the Twitter quoted rubbish floating around!

My Point being is that no one, without exception has seen a disease like COVID19 before, and everyone is flying very much by the seat of their pants.

https://www.who.int/ith/diseases/sars/en/

This is not nor does it look anything like COVID19, and the response has been remarkably different because like I stated previously, in April of 2019, 18300+ positive cases of Influenza vs 100+ in 2020.  That is nationally tested in laboratories and even so, we are still seeing new cases of COVID19 on a daily basis, numbering no where near Influenza levels.

Imagine we had not started washing our hands every 5 mins, most people continued about their business like normal what may have occurred.  I think we are yet to really see what this thing can do, but we are about to find out.  Thats speculation on my behalf, but I doubt we have seen the last of this thing.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: kruddler on May 06, 2020, 08:29:50 pm
My Point being is that no one, without exception has seen a disease like COVID19 before, and everyone is flying very much by the seat of their pants.

Us, as an intelligent being, have the ability to write things down and go back through generations to learn from situations like this.

The 'spanish' flu is one such example.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/15/us/philadelphia-1918-spanish-flu-trnd/index.html
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The virus spread to Philadelphia on September 19, 1918, through the Philadelphia Navy Yard, UPenn states. In a matter of days, 600 sailors had the virus.
Yet Philadelphia didn't cancel its Liberty Loan Parade, scheduled for just a little more than a week later. Meant to be a patriotic wartime effort, the parade went on as scheduled on September 28, bringing 200,000 Philadelphians together.
By October 1, there were 635 new cases in Philadelphia, according to UPenn.
Philadelphia was one of the hardest-hit US cities. More than 12,000 people died in six weeks, with about 47,000 reported cases, according to UPenn. By the six-month mark, about 16,000 had died and there were more than half a million cases.

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St. Louis, for example, canceled its parade while Philadelphia did not. In the end, the death toll in St. Louis did not rise above 700, according to the CDC.

The Spanish flu spread throughout the world and had 3 peaks, philadelphia basically being responsible for one with their refusal to follow the guidelines.

Everyone KNEW the guidelines, but people thought they were better than them (*looks at trump*) and now they are being made to look silly.

Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: LP on May 07, 2020, 04:34:21 pm
The Spanish flu spread throughout the world and had 3 peaks, Philadelphia basically being responsible for one with their refusal to follow the guidelines.

Everyone KNEW the guidelines, but people thought they were better than them (*looks at trump*) and now they are being made to look silly. 
War was a complication, some of the decisions to not report or publicly demonstrate strength were related to propaganda.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Thryleon on May 07, 2020, 08:03:28 pm
Us, as an intelligent being, have the ability to write things down and go back through generations to learn from situations like this.

The 'spanish' flu is one such example.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/15/us/philadelphia-1918-spanish-flu-trnd/index.html
The Spanish flu spread throughout the world and had 3 peaks, philadelphia basically being responsible for one with their refusal to follow the guidelines.

Everyone KNEW the guidelines, but people thought they were better than them (*looks at trump*) and now they are being made to look silly.



I feel pretty good about the idea that we live our lives very differently today than the world did in 1919 (population density) and that most people who lived through the Spanish flu aren't able to recall those times very well.

My contention is that we haven't really started our covid battle. 
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Professer E on May 07, 2020, 08:43:07 pm
Damn straight.   This saga has barely started and already people are starting to treat it like a joke.   We had sunny ANZAC weekend a fortnight ago and we're seeing the curve tick upwards again.   99% of the community is clueless.... Lock down,  what lock down?
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Milhanna13 on May 08, 2020, 02:44:34 pm
One of the NRL head honchos quoted a stat that a player was 10,000 to 1 to get Covid.

Now, Im no statistician - but - apply that to 500 players, plus prob the same number of coaches and officials  (1,000 people involved in a potential re-start)…….  doesn't that mean the odds are 10 to 1  that someone will get infected (which, I imagine would lead to the comp being shut down again)??

those are pretty skinny odds that you isolate a whole community, away from their families, and then it doesn't actually work
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: kruddler on May 09, 2020, 07:46:56 pm
I feel pretty good about the idea that we live our lives very differently today than the world did in 1919 (population density) and that most people who lived through the Spanish flu aren't able to recall those times very well.

My contention is that we haven't really started our covid battle. 

Not sure what you are trying to say re population density.
Its the getting together that gets people infected. Whether its 200,000 people at a parade, or 100,000 people at the MCG, thats how it spreads.

You could argue for and against either way. Point remains, it HAS happened before.

I heard about it by chance, came across it on a podcast i listen to often "Stuff you should know" which is a branch of www.howstuffworks.com.

If you aren't into podcasts, you can listen via youtube. These guys have been doing this for over 10 years now and have 1000's of episodes on just about anything you can think of. Do yourself a favour and have a listen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_ann3OeiZA

Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Professer E on May 10, 2020, 09:36:58 am
Blatant cheating from the crows.   Even if it was just a dumb mistake,  the assistant coach who was there should be sacked on grounds of rank stupidity.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: LP on May 11, 2020, 08:11:28 am
The AFL won't fine the Crows, officially they might announce a fine, unofficially in the current climate it'll be a naughty corner moment with no real consequences.

Any reports of such a fine are just a face saving exercise.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Professer E on May 11, 2020, 08:33:36 am
That would be a weak as piss response from the AFL.... Sixteen blokes,  a coach and a dietitian hanging out together at a resort?   Yep,  nothing to see here,  move along...

Grow a pair Gil and smack these bastards.

And I bet they aren't the only mob doing anything they could to circumvent the regulations.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: capcom on May 11, 2020, 10:05:11 am
Why couldn't this idiot first lay down the fines to any club breaking the rules .... he's just not that clever.

Couldn't organise a pi55 up at a brewery. 

Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: LP on May 12, 2020, 08:14:39 am
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The AFL was expected to hit Adelaide hard. But instead of a big hit, the Crows have been given, to borrow from the competition's drug code, a first strike. On the face of it, it is laughably lenient.
Was there any doubt!
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: LP on May 13, 2020, 08:06:29 am
The AFL Clubs and players are behaving like a bunch of privileged twats!

It'll be a miracle if the restart train stays on the rails given their inability to restrain themselves for even a week or two.

I'm starting to understand how Dangerfield got elected!
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Thryleon on May 13, 2020, 08:39:17 am
I dont really understand why the players and coaching staff weren't able to continue training as normal through the crisis.

After all, it was their work they were training for and provided they did the appropriate stuff outside of training, their contact tracing should have been easy enough.

Even if they were divided into the mids, forwards, backs and followers it would have been ok.

Sure no matches or even scratch matches.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Milhanna13 on May 13, 2020, 09:40:38 am
About a month ago, the entire Dees list was, pretty full on, training at Sorrento FC..... no reports have surfaced (their players are obviously better at keeping the lid on)…  I wonder how many other clubs have been doing covert stuff
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: DJC on May 15, 2020, 09:57:48 am
It seems that footy will be back on 11 June with the Tigers taking on the Magpies ...
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: LP on May 15, 2020, 11:01:51 am
Expect us to form a significant chunk of the broadcast schedule, because like it or not for BT, Darcy and the other critics, we rate on TV!

So also expect the complaints to come loud and fast!
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: blueboys_1 on May 15, 2020, 01:26:04 pm
Footy's back. Official start again on June 11.
WA and SA teams to be located in QLD as has been reported.
Player families to be also located in hubs.
Grand final to be played in Victoria.
Fixture to be released in 4-6 week blocks.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Micky0 on May 15, 2020, 01:32:53 pm
Footy's back. Official start again on June 11.
Fan-bloody-tastic!
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: capcom on May 15, 2020, 05:13:09 pm
And now the AFL has taken the opportunity to admit many of their staff will not be returning.

Think I heard 60% .... 
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Thryleon on May 15, 2020, 10:09:53 pm
I'm going to go early crow and say we won't get going for some reason.  Call it a hunch. 
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Micky0 on May 15, 2020, 10:22:50 pm
I'm going to go early crow and say we won't get going for some reason.  Call it a hunch. 
What?
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 16, 2020, 08:20:42 pm
Has the AFL released a new fixture yet?
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Baggers on May 17, 2020, 06:17:12 pm
Has the AFL released a new fixture yet?
Sometime this week, apparently.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Professer E on May 17, 2020, 08:47:01 pm
Jack Stevens has some explaining to do?
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 17, 2020, 10:03:42 pm
Jack Stevens has some explaining to do?
Not talking to police  I believe and plenty of rumours around suggesting why....
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: LP on May 17, 2020, 11:23:01 pm
Jack Stevens has some explaining to do?
This all seems a bit unfair, CheatsFC players have been stabbed thousands of times and never once had to explain it to the police! :o
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Baggers on May 18, 2020, 10:34:53 am
This all seems a bit unfair, CheatsFC players have been stabbed thousands of times and never once had to explain it to the police! :o

You're in good form today, Spotted One. Got a belly laugh here....
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Wet Willie on May 18, 2020, 10:41:40 am
Sometime this week, apparently.

I heard they might be releasing a fixture every four weeks or so.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Thryleon on May 18, 2020, 01:31:14 pm
What?

How long until someone tests positive shutting down the competition?

Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Baggers on May 19, 2020, 08:56:59 am
How long until someone tests positive shutting down the competition?



Please don't let it be Charlie  🤞
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: capcom on May 19, 2020, 09:31:43 am
The AFL is still swimming through mud.  Not all of their making mind you, but it's very much policy on the run.



Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Professer E on May 19, 2020, 11:03:32 am
What a surprise,  the great white hope at Cheats FC is unlikely to play this season,  what a surprise, I'm flabbergasted.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 19, 2020, 12:45:37 pm
What a surprise,  the great white hope at Cheats FC is unlikely to play this season,  what a surprise, I'm flabbergasted.
Going to be a Swan and looks like he has zero interest in playing for EFC, they should have traded him...
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: LP on May 19, 2020, 01:00:43 pm
Going to be a Swan and looks like he has zero interest in playing for EFC, they should have traded him...
wts, they'll be after Charlie or McKay, I'm pegging based on recent events we offer them Jack and Ben!
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: capcom on May 19, 2020, 01:23:01 pm
Going to be a Swan and looks like he has zero interest in playing for EFC, they should have traded him...

Yep, the cheats stuffed that one up completely.  Karma
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 19, 2020, 05:11:52 pm
I saw on Ch7 news last night the broadcasters are going to add canned crowd noise to the telecast when footy resumes. I have heard some dumb crape in my time but I reckon that just about takes the cake. I for one actually liked the crowdless telecast, you could really hear what was being said, the bumps and kicks on the ground. I must be the moronic minority. Having said that, they said they spoke to people in the US and Hollywood about it, makes perfect sense now. A dumber race of of people you will not find, why in gods name do we listen to them and follow their advice. >:(  >:(
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Professer E on May 19, 2020, 08:26:25 pm
So the handbaggers aren't going to push Stevens to discuss what went down... Kind of like not digging into what the weapon was up to.  If you don't like the answer,  don't ask the question...
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: kruddler on May 19, 2020, 10:10:22 pm
I saw on Ch7 news last night the broadcasters are going to add canned crowd noise to the telecast when footy resumes. I have heard some dumb crape in my time but I reckon that just about takes the cake. I for one actually liked the crowdless telecast, you could really hear what was being said, the bumps and kicks on the ground. I must be the moronic minority. Having said that, they said they spoke to people in the US and Hollywood about it, makes perfect sense now. A dumber race of of people you will not find, why in gods name do we listen to them and follow their advice. >:(  >:(

Is it any different to 'canned laughter' used on most tv comedies?
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 19, 2020, 10:53:19 pm
Is it any different to 'canned laughter' used on most tv comedies?

Dont mind it on tv shows just not watching AFL, then again watching Carlton, maybe Benny Hill music would be more apt.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: LP on May 20, 2020, 07:55:42 am
I saw on Ch7 news last night the broadcasters are going to add canned crowd noise to the telecast when footy resumes. >:(  >:( 
They've been using it in NRL for decades, the NRL will probably be ahead of many other sports in broadcast quality when things resume for this reason alone.
It's sounds dumb, but I bet the AFLPA are right behind this idea. Have you watched much crowd-less sport/games? All it does is highlight the poor skills, because there is no longer a perception of pressure or intensity, sports look pedestrian and players look like Gumbys. The sound and crowd feedback glosses over many evils.

I wonder if leaving it as-is, sound and experience free, could actually be good for the sport, to help cut the wheat from the chaff and let really skilled footballers get a run ahead of robotic athletes!
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: DJC on May 20, 2020, 09:56:15 am
So the handbaggers aren't going to push Stevens to discuss what went down... Kind of like not digging into what the weapon was up to.  If you don't like the answer,  don't ask the question...

The AFL Integrity Unit and VicPol aren’t taking such a soft line. 

At the very least, he has failed to comply with COVID-19 requirements.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: DJC on May 20, 2020, 10:05:17 am
Dont mind it on tv shows just not watching AFL, then again watching Carlton, maybe Benny Hill music would be more apt.

I’d prefer to be able to hear the players, umpires, etc but the Benny Hill music would be better than canned crowd noise.

In fact, I wouldn’t mind situation appropriate music being played - similar to the pianist playing along to the silent movies ... so I’m told  ;)
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: LP on May 20, 2020, 10:39:42 am
I’d prefer to be able to hear the players, umpires, etc but the Benny Hill music would be better than canned crowd noise.

In fact, I wouldn’t mind situation appropriate music being played - similar to the pianist playing along to the silent movies ... so I’m told  ;)
 If BT, Ling and Darcy are calling they can run the The Three Stooges soundtrack in the background, or Mr Magoo for Bruce McAveny!
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: northernblue on May 20, 2020, 10:54:48 am
I’d prefer to be able to hear the players, umpires, etc but the Benny Hill music would be better than canned crowd noise.

In fact, I wouldn’t mind situation appropriate music being played - similar to the pianist playing along to the silent movies ... so I’m told  ;)


Yes !
We can have hero music and of course villain music !! 🤣
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 20, 2020, 02:53:24 pm
They've been using it in NRL for decades, the NRL will probably be ahead of many other sports in broadcast quality when things resume for this reason alone.
It's sounds dumb, but I bet the AFLPA are right behind this idea. Have you watched much crowd-less sport/games? All it does is highlight the poor skills, because there is no longer a perception of pressure or intensity, sports look pedestrian and players look like Gumbys. The sound and crowd feedback glosses over many evils.

I wonder if leaving it as-is, sound and experience free, could actually be good for the sport, to help cut the wheat from the chaff and let really skilled footballers get a run ahead of robotic athletes!

Korean Soccer league is using blow up dolls to simulate crowds and the Germans have a novel idea to make a buck as well as entertain the fans by offering the supporters a chance to get cardboard cutouts of themselves and positioning them in the seats holding signs etc. Koreans got a bit ahead of themselves and used the wrong type of blow up dolls initially......the adult only variety...😉
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: LP on May 20, 2020, 03:06:06 pm
Korean Soccer league is using blow up dolls to simulate crowds and the Germans have a novel idea to make a buck as well as entertain the fans by offering the supporters a chance to get cardboard cutouts of themselves and positioning them in the seats holding signs etc. Koreans got a bit ahead of themselves and used the wrong type of blow up dolls initially......the adult only variety...😉
You can't make those sort of stuff up, it's that funny, and no matter how good they think they are eventually the fakes get exposed.

I remember some controversy a few years back, in a big NRL game there was a massive hit and a major player broke a leg, the fans all saw that and went deadly quiet but the audio effects person missed it and queued up a cheers and jeers! The TV studio commentary crew lambasted the crowd for cheering and jeering a severe injury, before it was exposed on radio commentary as a faux pas by the broadcast crew. Nothing was ever officially mentioned, the issue just went quiet!
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: capcom on May 20, 2020, 04:36:15 pm
Korean Soccer league is using blow up dolls to simulate crowds 😉

Must I correct you all the time about your spelling EB?  It's "stimulate" with a "T" :)

Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Micky0 on May 21, 2020, 10:52:18 am
The AFL Integrity Unit and VicPol aren’t taking such a soft line. 

At the very least, he has failed to comply with COVID-19 requirements.
I'm not sure why the HS kept putting it as a main story - the way I read the situation, it may have been self inflicted?
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Micky0 on May 21, 2020, 10:53:58 am
Re footy - It was atmosphere-less that first game, it sounded like a training drill - I would prefer some noise, fake or otherwise.  I've been watching our winning replays from last year (yes, i am that desperate), and the Benny Hill music would definitely have been right at home in some of our games!
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 21, 2020, 01:05:18 pm
Must I correct you all the time about your spelling EB?  It's "stimulate" with a "T" :)


Cap, I did see a photo from Sth Korea and it was a bit like that scene from " Flying High" in the cockpit, the dolls all had that smile on their face.....😎
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: laj on May 21, 2020, 03:22:15 pm
I want to know, with no crowd, hence no facilities needed, why can't we play home games at Princes Park. Geelong can play at home, why not the rest of us.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: capcom on May 21, 2020, 03:22:51 pm
Cap, I did see a photo from Sth Korea and it was a bit like that scene from " Flying High" in the cockpit, the dolls all had that smile on their face.....😎

I was going to add that to my post EB.  I took a girl on a second date to that movie (me not knowing the scene beforehand of course) but she was offended and walked out.  I stayed.  :)   
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: kruddler on May 21, 2020, 06:25:37 pm
I was going to add that to my post EB.  I took a girl on a second date to that movie (me not knowing the scene beforehand of course) but she was offended and walked out.  I stayed.  :)   

Good call.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Baggers on May 24, 2020, 01:36:41 pm
I was going to add that to my post EB.  I took a girl on a second date to that movie (me not knowing the scene beforehand of course) but she was offended and walked out.  I stayed.  :)   

Holy mackerel, what a prude... dodged a bullet there Old Son  😉
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: LP on May 27, 2020, 08:12:28 am
You watch what happens to this Mickey Mouse season when the stars wake up to the idea of playing for 1/2 or 1/3rd pay!

Any odds on a trivial but nagging injury "ending the season" for Dangerfield?
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: capcom on May 27, 2020, 10:18:54 am
You watch what happens to this Mickey Mouse season when the stars wake up to the idea of playing for 1/2 or 1/3rd pay!

Any odds on a trivial but nagging injury "ending the season" for Dangerfield? 

He plays IN the competition, but he doesn't play FOR it.
Title: Re: 2020 SEASON SUSPENDED
Post by: Gointocarlton on June 11, 2020, 07:47:02 pm
So let me get this straight, Adel and PA are in hubs on the GC but they fly to Adel to play at AO, then fly back to the GC?