Difficult to find Carlton good news stories ATM. This thread is dedicated to them.
1) Cripps
2) Docherty
3) Judd's still got it
Onfield stuff, off field stuff. No rules except this is a Malthouse free zone :P
Make your contribution.
We're one day closer to our next flag ;D
Seriously.
Cripps is the standout for me.
I love the effort of Docherty
Keen to see a bit more of Ciaran Byrne
Bell has improved and is having an impact and Tuohy is having a much better year after a down year last year
Byrne will be a player.
2E back playing well.
Some kids to look at.
NB's seem to have discovered some fighting spirit.
Giles out off a moonboot.
The last of the recruiters gone.
Micks last year.
Cripps, Doc.
I think we will get Shiel.
Got my dog back from the kennel yesterday after a week and she was very happy to see me.
Rookie list has some future senior players on it ie Walsh, Fields, Gowers and will help fill some holes on the senior list..
Cripps and Walsh are leaders of the future IMO...
re: Shiel..plenty of talk that he will re-sign with GWS along with Treloar...every club has had a crack at Shiel according to the papers...
Rookie list has some future senior players on it ie Walsh, Fields, Gowers and will help fill some holes on the senior list..
Cripps and Walsh are leaders of the future IMO...
re: Shiel..plenty of talk that he will re-sign with GWS along with Treloar...every club has had a crack at Shiel according to the papers...
Our main hope for Shiel I guess would be SOS - let's just hope he can give us the edge!
Along with Sheil, Treloar we seriously interested in D Hannebery.
Our main hope for Shiel I guess would be SOS - let's just hope he can give us the edge!
We MUST not give up our 1st pick for anyone, not even Shiel.
We MUST not give up our 1st pick for anyone, not even Shiel.
I reckon we are a monty to give it up if that's what it takes.
My fear is that we'll give more.
Building our Midfield
Will Make it: Cripps
Most Likely: Whiley, Boekhorst
Hopeful: Walsh, Graham, Bell
Lots more names to add through there, but its a start.
I reckon we are a monty to give it up if that's what it takes.
My fear is that we'll give more.
Bugger that. Give them yarran and a swap OF 2ND ROUNDERS
I reckon we are a monty to give it up if that's what it takes.
My fear is that we'll give more.
Shiel is only 22 - 23. If he's that good he's worth #1 IMO. A bird in the hand etc. etc.
Bugger that. Give them yarran and a swap OF 2ND ROUNDERS
I can tell you now, Yarran will never go to GWS unless they paid him twice what he's on now.
Our main hope for Shiel I guess would be SOS - let's just hope he can give us the edge!
The girlfriend of Shiel is Choco Williams daughter and of course Choco was at GWS....if Shiel leaves GWS my money is on the Tigers...
We MUST not give up our 1st pick for anyone, not even Shiel.
Actually, giving up a first pick for such an established young star is better than giving one up for an untried kid, remembering Shiel is young, not mid aged.
The girlfriend of Shiel is Choco Williams daughter and of course Choco was at GWS....if Shiel leaves GWS my money is on the Tigers...
Ahhh, the power of the petticoat. ::)
Actually, giving up a first pick for such an established young star is better than giving one up for an untried kid, remembering Shiel is young, not mid aged.
Depends if we get a first rounder for Gibbs, Henderson and Yarran.
We might have 4 of them!
Depends if we get a first rounder for Gibbs, Henderson and Yarran.
We might have 4 of them!
Hopefully we can snare a player or two with Free Agency.
We should have about half of our cap to play with judging by the names that may be traded.
Add to that Walker, Warnock etc that should be booted.
Depends if we get a first rounder for Gibbs, Henderson and Yarran.
We might have 4 of them!
Won't trade out all of those players. Hendo is the only one I can see going .
Won't trade out all of those players. Hendo is the only one I can see going .
Henderson would be the worst player to lose being KP player. Tough to develop through the draft and damn hard to trade for. He's a must keep.
Won't trade out all of those players. Hendo is the only one I can see going .
I don't think anyone is safe.
I'd be surprised if SOS hasn't already started the process.
Normally I'd like to have the coach who's going to be overseeing the group in place, so there's is some tie in between the recruiting an the coaching philosophy but I don't care anymore.
I'm now of the opinion that the best recruiters do their own thinking, but some of the worst do as well.
While discussing SOS pending activities in relation to the value of players at the trade table, a bloke at the local footy made an interesting point about how much football has changed in recent years.
Not sure if this is right or wrong, but he claimed he was shocked to find based on some old figures that Hendo is faster, taller, heavier with a better vertical leap than SOS!
Hard to imagine isn't it, I suppose we only evaluate players by those around them!
In that context how hard is it to find a replacement, and what figure should we put on potential trade value?
The Northern Blues had a win on the weekend, and its good to see the Blues playing at PP again.
Our trading and drafting strategy over the last few years seems to be yielding better results for us (even if free agency isnt quite working for us).
Our bottom aged players all seem to look like they will make the grade.
At least the logo on our jumper makes us look like the Carlton of old if not the on field performances.
The girlfriend of Shiel is Choco Williams daughter and of course Choco was at GWS....if Shiel leaves GWS my money is on the Tigers...
Would you wanna work under your soon to be Father in-law? I wouldn't. I don't think the Tigers have the trade bait or salary cap room to get the deal done either.
Things we have on our side are SOS, Shiel being a lifelong Carlton supporter,
if Judd goes on for another year (wears #5 because of him), the ridiculous money we will throw at him, being closer to family and maybe even Jaksch and Whiley getting in his ear.
To fit him under cap we'll need to trade out Gibbs or Henderson and I'd rather do that than our first pick.
Would you wanna work under your soon to be Father in-law? I wouldn't. I don't think the Tigers have the trade bait or salary cap room to get the deal done either.
Things we have on our side are SOS, Shiel being a lifelong Carlton supporter, if Judd goes on for another year (wears #5 because of him), the ridiculous money we will throw at him, being closer to family and maybe even Jaksch and Whiley getting in his ear.
To fit him under cap we'll need to trade out Gibbs or Henderson and I'd rather do that than our first pick.
Tigers have the salary cap room and probably another 700k a year more after Rance retires to pursue his religious beliefs.....Tigers are pushing Rance hard to make up his mind and its because they want to chase Shiel with the extra dough....
Forgetting about Richmond..you would also have to ask would Shiel want to come to a club that have little hope of playing decent finals in the next 5 years?....As Mick said we cant attract players, we already offered Jeremy Cameron 1.2mill a year and he said No and that was with the SOS factor...
Hopefully we can snare a player or two with Free Agency.
We should have about half of our cap to play with judging by the names that may be traded.
Add to that Walker, Warnock etc that should be booted.
We are not going to be looking at free agency this year. Those players are all in the older age bracket of which we are trying to sell off, not buy.
We need draft picks, and youngish kids already in the system.
We need to raid GWS's list and GC's. Plenty of talent there who probably deserve more coin than they are on.
Positives for this year.
Obviously, my boy Cripps. I've always had high hopes for him, but he has matched them and probably exceeded them so far.
Another one, Bell. I've never questioned his effort, just his fitness, skill and decision making. He's one of the few who has showed sustained effort this season. I think his fitness has improved dramatically and that has helped him with his decision making. Skill is always going to be a work in progress, but 4 goals the other week is something you can't knock.
White deserves a mention. He was probably in most peoples top 5 to be delisted at years end, but earned a lot of peoples respect after PS and especially R1 against the tiges. He moved into a lot of peoples best 22. Credit to him. I think we've missed him.
Something that those 3 all have in common, and maybe a few more who i could've put in as well, is that they all are team players who put in each and every week. TEAM players who display EFFORT.
If these 3 blokes can drag their teammates along with them, we might be able to get 22 players playing as a team!
The upside? I think that we have seen something from the younger brigade that indicates that some will be decent AFL players, and some might become better than that. I also believe that there are kids currently on the rookie list that could also become valuable contributors. Gowers, Fields and Walsh look more like footballers than some of the speculative stuff of previous years. Unfortunately these kids all need time, development and quality mentoring/role models, things I am unsure this club can provide.
Bell has continued to show that he has a little bit of that special something and at times makes things happen... some people call this "X" factor I guess. It all seems to be about increasing the frequency of his impactful moments on games and reducing the times in which he goes missing or messes up terribly.
The team orientated focus of White has been positive - putting his head over the ball after receiving a spinal injury last year was very impressive IMO. Being able to play many roles makes him a very valuable bench option in the 22.
I may be more positive since i missed last Friday night's match and have no stomach to watch a reply.
Bell has been the most positive player for mine in that he has played all games and looks to have improved in his areas of previous weakness, namely skill and decision making. A big powerful player that can run all day and kick goals.
Cripps has shown more leadership in just a few matches than some of his more senior colleagues. He is a good decision maker already and has a very bright future.
Docherty has shown he is a developing and consistent defender who can make good decisions off half back.
Biggest positive for mine is the emerging realisation that the club as a whole has to pull its finger out. The understanding seems to be creeping in that it is not just 'getting the right people' but getting them to work together effectively. Organisational dynamics are fickle and hard to identify. The club seems to be expressing this now, with its efforts to improve the conduct of its recruitment and development, and grow its support base. Change is happening. We are hearing about alot of problems right now at the club. Good. It's the biggest and most important step to addressing them.
New recruiting staff. Not much else at this time.
Cripps who could be a superstar as long as he woks on his kicking.
Docherty who is easily in the starting 22 in our squad. Its a shame we didn't snag Polec too.
Bell who is growing into a more than decent mid. Just needs as many games as he is a confidence player.
White who is under-rated. A more than average player. Love his work rate.
Not much else from there, but it is only round 5. Maybe by round 12 we will see more to be positive about.
The stakes for our club currently are absolutely massive. If we get it wrong again re. the coach, at the trade/draft tables, and other critical areas we have previously discussed at length then we are in deep trouble for many years.
Granted, there are a few shafts of light with some of the new players like Cripps etc., but IMO they are relatively small signs compared to the size of the challenge we are faced with. The most critical areas for me lie in the quality of our Prez, Ceo, board, strategy, planning and execution over the next 5 years. Too early to make a call really, some encouraging words have been spoken but the jury's definitely still out.
Silver lining. I'm renovating my house doing most of my work on weekends so I'm not missing out on much by not going to the footy this year.
Cripps is an exciting prospect and he should do well in the Rising Star if he can maintain his form. So far, his consistency has been remarkable for a young player.
Bell has been the standout for me. He has really progressed since last season and his use of the ball has improved markedly, not to mention his goal kicking. Bell is one of the very few Carlton players who is willing to get in the face of opponents and his powerful frame seems to be intimidating. Bell and Cripps could provide the nucleus of a very strong midfield for years to come.
Docherty has also improved on his 2014 form and he has a big future.
Tuohy was disappointing in 2014 but seems to have regained his mojo. I'm not sure that defence is really his role and I'd like to seem him played further up the ground.
I never thought that Jones would cement a spot in our forward line and he hasn't done a great deal to convince me otherwise. However, when he does get to contests he does bring the ball to ground and we should be able to capitalise on that. If he can play to his potential, he could be an elite key forward but he has a very long way to go. He is worth persevering with but needs a lot of work, preferably with a genuine forward line coach.
Despite his limited opportunities, Casboult has been another shining light for me. His marking is elite and his kicking action has improved. He needs to be given a chance to develop as a genuine ruckman and forward.
Byrne showed a bit in his cameo and I would like to see him work his way back into the team. It's interesting how Tuohy and Byrne take the game on and play a more instinctive game. Perhaps not playing junior football has benefits.
Finally, I'd like to acknowledge Murphy's efforts. He gets virtually no protection from his team mates and must start very game knowing that the opposition will set out to belt the crap out of him. Under those circumstances, his performances have been pretty good. I am looking forward to seeing how he goes when his team mates finally realise that it's up to them to show opponents that our captain has protection.
Cripps is an exciting prospect and he should do well in the Rising Star if he can maintain his form. So far, his consistency has been remarkable for a young player.
Bell has been the standout for me. He has really progressed since last season and his use of the ball has improved markedly, not to mention his goal kicking. Bell is one of the very few Carlton players who is willing to get in the face of opponents and his powerful frame seems to be intimidating. Bell and Cripps could provide the nucleus of a very strong midfield for years to come.
Docherty has also improved on his 2014 form and he has a big future.
Tuohy was disappointing in 2014 but seems to have regained his mojo. I'm not sure that defence is really his role and I'd like to seem him played further up the ground.
I never thought that Jones would cement a spot in our forward line and he hasn't done a great deal to convince me otherwise. However, when he does get to contests he does bring the ball to ground and we should be able to capitalise on that. If he can play to his potential, he could be an elite key forward but he has a very long way to go. He is worth persevering with but needs a lot of work, preferably with a genuine forward line coach.
Despite his limited opportunities, Casboult has been another shining light for me. His marking is elite and his kicking action has improved. He needs to be given a chance to develop as a genuine ruckman and forward.
Byrne showed a bit in his cameo and I would like to see him work his way back into the team. It's interesting how Tuohy and Byrne take the game on and play a more instinctive game. Perhaps not playing junior football has benefits.
Finally, I'd like to acknowledge Murphy's efforts. He gets virtually no protection from his team mates and must start very game knowing that the opposition will set out to belt the crap out of him. Under those circumstances, his performances have been pretty good. I am looking forward to seeing how he goes when his team mates finally realise that it's up to them to show opponents that our captain has protection.
Pretty much how I see it too DJC.
Going on last seasons performance Sheahan will make it too when he is fully fit.
Jones has been a disappointment after the pre-season hype, but he is still young and will improve .
Wood has been OK too most of the time. Will never be a star, but has a go. And Simon White is under-rated. We miss his grunt when he's not there.
Over the two to three weeks, Thomas, Yarren, Kruz, white, will all add a new dimension. The two Irish boys good too . They've all played little to no footy this year.
Things will look a lot better soon.
Oh dear, we miss Simon White. How far backwards have we gone when that's the case.
Oh dear, we miss Simon White. How far backwards have we gone when that's the case.
To be fair he has been playing some of his best football for the club in his last handful of games. ;)
To be fair he has been playing some of his best football for the club in his last handful of games. ;)
Meh lods, for me he played a cracker for us in round 1 and that's about it. After what's happened with Rowe this year I'm loath to put that down as the rule as opposed to the exception.
To be fair he has been playing some of his best football for the club in his last handful of games. ;)
Yeah, I thought White was playing with good levels of aggression and mobility, stuff I wish some of the others on the list had just a shred of in their kit bag!
Meh lods, for me he played a cracker for us in round 1 and that's about it. After what's happened with Rowe this year I'm loath to put that down as the rule as opposed to the exception.
He played some good games towards the end of last year including that 4 goal effort against St Kilda.
I reckon we'll see him establish himself as a pretty useful utility once he comes back.
Can play a number of roles
For what it's worth I am loath to criticise SW. This bloke brings an attitude to the field which is sadly lacking in many of his team mates. He's in our best 25.