I'll be still at the game, so have fun!
WoooooooooooHoooooooooooooooooo 8)
Still only 2 games out of the 8 :o
Never in doubt
Never in doubt
The little kid was right. Baggers by 1 point.
No Razor Ray and we win! ::) ::)
Well done Blue Boys! Phew - I had a rant about "another brave loss" all ready to spew forth.
Kreuzer - you're a bl00dy legend. Once again he was the inspiration and dragged the others with him. Jones reinvented as a backman?!? :o
Cop that Johnston, cop that Green, cop that Mumford! GWS were in to Marchbank and Plowman big time all day and they both creamed them!!
Say what you like about resets, rebuilds etc. Those wins feel fantastic, and give the players a bit of hope, as well as reward for effort. Well done lads, and all at CFC.
Oops
Cop that Johnston, cop that Green, cop that Mumford! GWS were in to Marchbank and Plowman big time all day and they both creamed them!!
Mumford and Johnston cost GWS that game, stupid mistakes from seasoned players at critical moments!
Mumford and Johnston cost GWS that game, stupid mistakes from seasoned players at critical moments!
Green's brain fade late in the game was something else again.
It was just a great team effort, everyone put in and we stuck at it for 100 minutes.
I have to give Liam Jones a special mention though, along with most Carlton supporters I'd written him off and it's credit to his character that he's hung in and demanded to be picked, and then to beat one of the best forwards in the AFL?
What can you say except bloody well done Liam.
Pity Levi didn't drill that last shot and stick it so far up the naysayers that they gag on it.
Mumford and Johnston cost GWS that game, stupid mistakes from seasoned players at critical moments!
Don't forget Shaw turning his back on the footy :D
Green's brain fade late in the game was something else again.
It was just a great team effort, everyone put in and we stuck at it for 100 minutes.
I have to give Liam Jones a special mention though, along with most Carlton supporters I'd written him off and it's credit to his character that he's hung in and demanded to be picked, and then to beat one of the best forwards in the AFL?
What can you say except bloody well done Liam.
You took the words out my mouth!
Whoever it was who came up with the idea of playing Jones as a defender could have resurrected his career ... and good luck to him.
I snuck down to the local expecting to see another honourable loss. Kreuzer was massive and was the one who made the difference in the end. Well done 1AW in the mentoring role with Liam, he's a changed player who just earned himself another contract.
Mumford and Johnston cost GWS that game, stupid mistakes from seasoned players at critical moments!
Be Stevie
Johnson.......bit of pressure on Leon Cameron, Alistair Clarkson was at the game and plenty of GWS supporters reckon he is the coach in waiting if LC doesnt bring home the bacon
in the finals...
Nice to see Liam Jones play so well and my old mate Daisy did some good things too especially late in the game, the handpass to Wright was crucial and smart thinking.
Who says you have to win clearances...Kreuzer was BOG taking on the big Mummy and credit to Gibbs who I thought played an intelligent game along with his mate Murphy..
J.Patton is very overated and anyone wanting to pay 9 mill for Kelly needs to think again...rather Callan Ward who I rate the best of the GWS mids.....not as flashy but has more substance...
You can see how to beat GWS as we followed a similar formula to how the Bulldogs played them last finals series... they dont like it tight or contested and their backline lacks the star power they have everywhere else on the ground..
Hopefully a win like this will help the boys believe that if the game is an arm wrestle, they're in with a chance.
And yes, big ups to LJ, and I hope ACOS is ok.
I'll give their coach some credit. He said it wouldn't be right to say GWS were as we were a good side on the rise.
Can't believe they traded out Marchbank, their defence is very light on. I know they have injuries but if they don't shore up their defense they will be also fans.
Greene won't kick 0_5 again.
Pretty amazing timing from LJ. He turned it on just as ACOS hits the wall.
Daisy earned his keep again. How about Gibbs flattening him when he was running out of the centre. When was the last time Gibbs flattened anyone? ;D
Pretty amazing timing from LJ. He turned it on just as ACOS hits the wall.
Daisy earned his keep again. How about Gibbs flattening him when he was running out of the centre. When was the last time Gibbs flattened anyone? ;D
I remember some dainty push and shove with renowned Essendon hard man Dyson Heppell a while back.
Pretty amazing timing from LJ. He turned it on just as ACOS hits the wall.
Daisy earned his keep again. How about Gibbs flattening him when he was running out of the centre. When was the last time Gibbs flattened anyone? ;D
Gibbs got stuck into Mumford after the latter smashed Kreuzer when he marked in the pocket. It should have been a 50m penalty and certain goal.
.....................anyone wanting to pay 9 mill for Kelly needs to think again...rather Callan Ward who I rate the best of the GWS mids.....not as flashy but has more substance...
Agreed, Callan Ward by a country mile!
You can see how to beat GWS as we followed a similar formula to how the Bulldogs played them last finals series... they dont like it tight or contested and their backline lacks the star power they have everywhere else on the ground..
They have a lot of superstar finger pointers who all want to be the hero. I suppose that is why the media love them so much, the same type of show pony players that fill commentary or media analyst roles!
The little kid was right. Baggers by 1 point.
Said the same thing as soon as the siren blew. Thanks kid.
I took my 4 month old to his first game today. 100% win record.
My 2.5 year old also saw his first win....but he's seen a few losses already.
>:DWas at the game and geez the boys did not stop - there were a tiny few flat Spots where GWS Made easy work of getting it into their F50 But wow that last 5 mins my heart was racing! Damnit I didn't want another honourable loss - I wanted the win and WE GOT IT!
Thought Liam Jones was so composed, fantastic - Fisher just throws himself into what is happening, Weiters' smart play at the end.
All that and I thought Murph was super quiet?
Some silly errors and boy were the umpires very pro GWS but we still held on!
The crowd was electric and am so pleased for Kruezer on his 150th!
And a great way for Krooz to celebrate his 150th - the ultimate club player, the ultimate team player.
Booya !
Very proud CFC supporter tonight. Great effort by the boys. G&D with smarts! I will need extra heart medication tonight.
How about our defence? IMO the decisive factor.
All that and I thought Murph was super quiet?
Some on talkback had said the same thing, but he got 30 possessions.
I've not seen the game, but I talked to a mate who was at it and he said Murphy and Gibbs did a lot of unusually heavy lifting.
Did anyone here the 'cheer' when Casboult took that mark in the end? Was about the funniest thing i've heard at the football.
A collective roar of excitement when you realise you've just taken a mark in the forwardline knowing a goal wins you the game.... ;D
...
...followed immediately by a collective sigh and groan when you realise that was Casboult who took the mark. :'(
"YEAAAAAAAHHHHHHAWwwwwwww"
.....................
Greene won't kick 0_5 again.
Yes, no doubt we had lady luck on our side. He is normally a great shot on goal, and has been in great form.
They had their chances for sure.
Did anyone here the 'cheer' when Casboult took that mark in the end? Was about the funniest thing i've heard at the football.
A collective roar of excitement when you realise you've just taken a mark in the forwardline knowing a goal wins you the game.... ;D
...
...followed immediately by a collective sigh and groan when you realise that was Casboult who took the mark. :'(
"YEAAAAAAAHHHHHHAWwwwwwww"
The miss was predictable.
He didn't hit the scoreboard today but I thought it was Levi's best game for at least a month, he really got involved and did a lot of heavy duty stuff.
Did anyone here the 'cheer' when Casboult took that mark in the end? Was about the funniest thing i've heard at the football.
A collective roar of excitement when you realise you've just taken a mark in the forwardline knowing a goal wins you the game.... ;D
...
...followed immediately by a collective sigh and groan when you realise that was Casboult who took the mark. :'(
"YEAAAAAAAHHHHHHAWwwwwwww"
When you fully haven't developed a new "habit", in this case kicking at goal, old one's can bite you on the ass under pressure until that "habit" is properly established, if it ever does completely.
Pity Levi didn't drill that last shot and stick it so far up the naysayers that they gag on it.
2.1 as opposed to 1.2 doesn't really make a difference. It was a low scoring affair I guess but he should have drilled it. The conversation would have been a little different had we lost.
In any case, this isnt about Levi. Its about:
-A win against top of the ladder
-A win for the big Tractor in his 150th
-Liam Jones sticking it right up everyone. Well done son, great game.
Actually thought Jed Lamb was good - he has attitude and skills.
Didn't hear the cheer and groan when Casbolt got it - gee I wish he'd kick those, for himself if nothing else!
Thought again Cripps tried to do too much every time rather than at times take the easy and smart option - but that's not a fault or a diss, he knows he's bloody good and he WANTS to win so he does what he thinks he can in order to win it. That'll come good once he has even contributors and faith in those around him.
Thought gibbs was good but not great - few times he stood back and spectate did rather than throw himself in but I think that's just how he plays.
Love Kruez god I would hate to lose him.
And Liam as others have said, well done to you sir! Make the most of your opportunities, you did today
And yes Toby missed his shots but the umpires were very pro GWS so it evens out
GO BLUES
Actually thought Jed Lamb was good - he has attitude and skills.
Didn't hear the cheer and groan when Casbolt got it - gee I wish he'd kick those, for himself if nothing else!
Thought again Cripps tried to do too much every time rather than at times take the easy and smart option - but that's not a fault or a diss, he knows he's bloody good and he WANTS to win so he does what he thinks he can in order to win it. That'll come good once he has even contributors and faith in those around him.
Thought gibbs was good but not great - few times he stood back and spectate did rather than throw himself in but I think that's just how he plays.
Love Kruez god I would hate to lose him.
And Liam as others have said, well done to you sir! Make the most of your opportunities, you did today
And yes Toby missed his shots but the umpires were very pro GWS so it evens out
GO BLUES
Agree on Lamb....pregame I thought Lamb being in may help Wright be more productive and I thought he added some variety up forward which we dont have since Pickett got dropped.
Lamb isnt flashy but he kicks straight and was sensible with the footy this game, seen him other games and his decision making can let him down...
The Daisy haters best watch that last stoppage just prior to the Weitering kick off the ground.
Daisy in the right place, three critical touches in as many seconds. Basically won us the game.
The Daisy haters best watch that last stoppage just prior to the Weitering kick off the ground.
Daisy in the right place, three critical touches in as many seconds. Basically won us the game.
LP...take your point about late in the game work, thought he owed us though after that kick got smothered early that resulted in a GWS goal but I thought he did some good work and
his game overall was good...I prefer to be called a Daisy doubter ;)
Getting to the point though would you offer him another year based on his efforts this season?
LP...take your point about late in the game work, thought he owed us though after that kick got smothered early that resulted in a GWS goal but I thought he did some good work and
his game overall was good...I prefer to be called a Daisy doubter ;)
Getting to the point though would you offer him another year based on his efforts this season?
Yes I would at a reduced rate, he's worth every bit as much as Casboult and I'd offer Casboult a deal for the right price as well.
The time to move them on is when the kids have 30 to 50 games under their belt.
If Daisy isn't there tonight they don't get a win and that does incredible damage to the development and confidence of the kids. For me his presence accelerates their development and we should be all for that!
Those kids will see what he did on video, and know what they have to do in similar situations.
Yes I would at a reduced rate, he's worth every bit as much as Casboult and I'd offer Casboult a deal for the right price as well.
The time to move them on is when the kids have 30 to 50 games under their belt.
Twice, once walking to the group after the siren and once coming out from a break, Daisy was in deep conversation with Zac Fisher. Plenty of instruction going on and a few pats on the back.
Yes I would at a reduced rate, he's worth every bit as much as Casboult and I'd offer Casboult a deal for the right price as well.
The time to move them on is when the kids have 30 to 50 games under their belt.
If Daisy isn't there tonight they don't get a win and that does incredible damage to the development and confidence of the kids. For me his presence accelerates their development and we should be all for that!
Fair enough.....I reckon Daisy given he has the coaches support and he gives some more of what he gave to today for the rest of the season might prove you right.
I like Levi but he does need to convert batter than he did today but I'm still sticking with theory he makes Kruezer a better player and is useful for us....though as you say, at the right price..
Twice, once walking to the group after the siren and once coming out from a break, Daisy was in deep conversation with Zac Fisher. Plenty of instruction going on and a few pats on the back.
He is basically accused by some sectors of feathering his nest, clinging onto his career at the expense of our youth. But it looks to me like he is working as hard as he can to bring the kids on and make himself redundant.
I'd rather have Daisy doing that than have some other, perhaps more capable, twightlight career spud who gives our kids nothing!
Like him or hate him, he's got an A Grade football brain and works his butt off!
I love this quality in a player, it overcomes, it's a unifying quality that players fall behind.
what was that free kick to gws for with 30 seconds to go....simmo had it i thought. didn't think he even took the ball out... very odd.
Then that final deliberate free at the death, WtF?!
Pretty amazing timing from LJ. He turned it on just as ACOS hits the wall.
Daisy earned his keep again. How about Gibbs flattening him when he was running out of the centre. When was the last time Gibbs flattened anyone? ;D
He squashed Robbie Gray's head like a tangerine one day. Won us the game against power. And got suspended.
Jack Silvagni needs to become our Crows Tom Lynch. Lead up hard, drop back when required, kick a couple each game and be our link person. He has all the attributes to do it.
The Daisy haters best watch that last stoppage just prior to the Weitering kick off the ground.
Daisy in the right place, three critical touches in as many seconds. Basically won us the game.
Beat me to it, spot on. Its what you want the more experienced guys to do. Who said defence doesnt win you games? Those final seconds in the teeth of there goal was a hot as you would get but they all stood up. Daisy iced with with his calmness and Weiters finished it by just hacking it
away as far as could.
One aspect of the game that pleased me was the defensive work of our midfielders. Our numbers behind the ball gave GWS an advantage at stoppages but, although they won the clearances, hard work from our midfielders, and especially Matty Kreuzer, stopped GWS from capitalising.
Wow. Just wow.
Aside from a couple of short lived lapses, our boys were sensational.
From selection to coaching, to execution. This is one to remember - one for the oldies like Kruez, and the youngsters like Plowman, and the almost forgotten like Jones.
How brilliant was the Jones boy? Big shoes to fill with Rowe out (and ASOS) going down so early. I kept thinking the floodgates would open, but the boys G & D was fierce. Thought Lamb added some class, better than Stevie J afaic.
Levi was great sound the ground, maybe we're playing him out of position too ;) Daisy earned every $ and no doubt enormous respect from players and coaches alike. Noticed BB giving him last instructions just before q4 started. He did not disappoint. Well done.
The Blues brothers were fantastic too. Loved Charlie's strong tackle in the dying minutes. He must have been buggered, but even put in to land seconds.
Our leaders, especially big MK led by example today. What a super lesson for the youngsters. Had the conviction, confidence, commitment, and composure to out class the best. Last time they beat us by about 10 goals.
Take that. The Blues are coming.
Congratulations to all in our 1's and 2's. VERY promising signs for the club as a whole.
Beat me to it, spot on. Its what you want the more experienced guys to do. Who said defence doesnt win you games? Those final seconds in the teeth of there goal was a hot as you would get but they all stood up. Daisy iced with with his calmness and Weiters finished it by just hacking it
away as far as could.
Our defence is shaping up very nicely, but it's not just about our back 6, as good as they are. So many times this season, in pretty much all games I have watched, I have heard the commentators say "Carlton have set up really well". Credit to all concerned.
However, both defense and attack win matches. And our defense, as good as they are, had nothing to do with the fact that Greene left his contacts at home.
At any rate, I'm very happy for the win, and very happy that we had a little luck. Plenty of better and more developed teams than us have won in very fortunate circumstances. You have to be in the contest for the luck to have any effect. So well done CFC
What a win, had a weird feeling about this game it felt like the Geelong game last year. Injury early and so on.
Charlie keep steadily keeps improving, has all the commentators drooling over him every week and even Leigh Matthews the other week. They all are worried that we have recruited the best athlete since Buddy.
Cunningham another showing great signs every week and improving a lot. Kreuz playing career best footy. Liam Jones great coaching move, closing speed and marks in defence.
Just so many positives. Footy world is worried they are starting to notice what we are building.
More rubbish disrespect from the media, spitting out their teeth no doubt. I wonder which one of them put $21K on GWS at 3/4 time?
Sam Landsberger about Liam Jones;
CARLTON fans rubbed their eyes in disbelief.
Itchy and Scratchy Land sold out of ‘Bort’ licence plates...........
It’s a funny thing, confidence. Ardent Blues watchers wouldn’t have been surprised, with Jones building his belief with a stack of dominant VFL performances. Last night Jones might have dreamed of finally becoming a star defender, perhaps even Blu-Tacking a selfie amongst the collection.
Until Sunday, not even the most optimistic Blues fan believed him.
On Sunday it was ‘Leaping Liam’ instead of ‘Laughable Liam’ and if that continues he will be at the Blues in 2018.
What a win, had a weird feeling about this game it felt like the Geelong game last year. Injury early and so on.
Charlie keep steadily keeps improving, has all the commentators drooling over him every week and even Leigh Matthews the other week. They all are worried that we have recruited the best athlete since Buddy.
Cunningham another showing great signs every week and improving a lot. Kreuz playing career best footy. Liam Jones great coaching move, closing speed and marks in defence.
Just so many positives. Footy world is worried they are starting to notice what we are building.
Liam J had kicked the door down with his repeated NB's performances.....his closing speed is remarkable.
what happened to ACoS btw?
Re Daisy, sure he did his bit today, well done. Doesn't mean that happens every week....i just don'r see the level playing (selection) field when it comes to Daisy.....looks like a very decent fella, for sure, but that ain't the point.
what happened to ACoS btw?
Early thoughts/rumours were nothing structural, possibly bone bruising, but we'll have to wait and see.
Cop that Johnston, cop that Green, cop that Mumford! GWS were in to Marchbank and Plowman big time all day and they both creamed them!!
I agree. There were a few boys out there today who will be VERY pleased with the result and the choices they made. Marchbank and Plowman will top the list. And their looks when it was over said a lot.
Liam J had kicked the door down with his repeated NB's performances.....his closing speed is remarkable.
what happened to ACoS btw?
Re Daisy, sure he did his bit today, well done. Doesn't mean that happens every week....i just don'r see the level playing (selection) field when it comes to Daisy.....looks like a very decent fella, for sure, but that ain't the point.
Rowe is going to struggle coming back from this knee but with ASOS and Jones now providing sort of more senior options it will be even harder. They have closing speed on him and the fact they mark more than he does. Our backline is so stacked it provides great confidence to the team now. Need to just stack the mids and forwards over the next couple years.
You took the words out my mouth!
Whoever it was who came up with the idea of playing Jones as a defender could have resurrected his career ... and good luck to him.
Indeed. Liam Jones was appreciated today. Every disposal, every mark and every spoil got noticed. Patton got 2 goals, but neither of those were due to Jones' being beaten. The 2nd one was one of the worst decisions I've seen, but that is a different issue. Jones can look forward to more senior games with confidence. And we might just enjoy it! :)
What feels so different for mine?
That this far in, the past 2 T & D results feel right. Compare that to pre 2015, when we could hear our collective sigh of disappointment.
The past 2yrs recruiting (staff + players) could quietly yield the foundation of our next cup. Add the few stars we've collected like Docherty and Crippa, and well...
Let's say it's very exciting times for our much loved club.
Go new Blues
Sam Landsberger about Liam Jones;
Laughing at you Landsberger. What a pathetic shallow article.
Gibbs got stuck into Mumford after the latter smashed Kreuzer when he marked in the pocket. It should have been a 50m penalty and certain goal.
The 50 m penalties were an interesting thing. Also the down field free kicks. How Kreuzer did not get 50 m was just not how things were umpired early in the game. Similarly to Daisy close to the end. I guess I shouldn't expect consistency, but some thing did stand out.
I think Gibbs is getting a pretty rough rap at the moment. There are times when you want him to be more physical, but he really put his body in while at the clearances today. He also does now tackle more effectively. He will never be a Mitch Robinson, but he isn't the outside player he was.
Was at the game today with my Carlton mate and what a fantastic day.
The last 2 minutes really didn't do my heart any good but when that final siren went the crowd went into raptures.
What really stood out for me, especially in the last 2 minutes was that none of our players went into their shell. They all wanted the ball like the lives depended on it. They took the game on and attacked and attacked and even though it looked hectic our boys looked composed. To not take the easy option and rush the behind and force a draw they backed themselves in to clear it out, brilliant.
Everyone contributed today, and our young blokes looked like 100+ game players.
I love watching when they show Bolts in the box, he wears his heart on his sleeve, rides the bumps like as we do as supporters. But you can see it in his eyes he knows exactly what is going on and is reacting on the fly with his instructions to the team.
M.
Great win. So proud and optimistic about our club.
Levi's miss in the last was a bad, but not unexpected one but the miss by the umpire of the obvious 50m penalty to Matty Wright after he takes the mark preceding was way way worse. Disgraceful non-decision.
Don't get me started on the last deliberate at the death. Trying desperately to drag the GWS across the line the umpires were.
Football wise Doc, Kreuz, LJ, Simmo our best.
Go Bluess@
Want to give a shout out to Bolton and his coaching staff. Out coached Cameron by a long way, the reason ... the end score 71 - 70 game was played at our pace and on our terms. Matching up our backs in the last quarter just clogged up a forward line that relied on getting space over the back for the past two seasons well done BB.
Also David Cunningham was superb all game, hunted the ball, put on blocks for fellow mids, tackled with intent and hit the score again. Don't drop him, he just needs to get used to the pace of the game so his quick hands don't get knocked down by opposition fingertips.
Fisher again was in everything, not the strength and hardness of body to effect a contest every time, but has a strength of mind that wills him on.
We basically player one down all game long against a team of brats and played hard and tough. Where was Phil Davis getting mouthy? Shaw had a bit to say to our cheer squad then kicked the ball out of bounds. Green was ready for a brain fart but managed to pull himself back a couple of times. I was a bit disappointed in our backline not flying the flag for Marchbank in particular, I'm sure if Alex Silvagni played the whole game he would of.
Today really showed our need for a second inside bull at the contest, could this be Hopper?
This win is worth 10 games of experience to our young guys
The Daisy haters best watch that last stoppage just prior to the Weitering kick off the ground.
Daisy in the right place, three critical touches in as many seconds. Basically won us the game.
Today we saw some of the smarts from Daisy. He took some risks and did what GWS didn't expect him to do. Those bursts into the centre square were inspired. That things didn't quit work out the way they were supposed to tells us a lot more about the state of our redevelopment than anything else. Team mates don't usually bump into you as you run up the field and get a clearance (almost).
Daisy did some very good things today. He was worth his spot. However, I am no longer convinced he wants to go on as badly as it appears he did pre-season. I think he has already given up on next year and wants to make his last games as good as he can make them.
Here's my pregame drivel
Fair chance for sure. I've tipped Giants, so we're in with a chance according to my 2017 tipping stats :P
See, I've got absolutely no idea. Never been happier to lose a tip ;D
So I've got nothing to lose right.... I predict we play finals this year. But as im pretty sure that's impossible, I'll predict we'll play finals next year. There, now you have my post game drivel fwiw ^-^
Whoever it was who came up with the idea of playing Jones as a defender could have resurrected his career ... and good luck to him.
You're very welcome - it was a long time coming but a pleasure to watch.
Said the same thing as soon as the siren blew. Thanks kid.
I took my 4 month old to his first game today. 100% win record.
My 2.5 year old also saw his first win....but he's seen a few losses already.
Our family went today. 5yo is now 2 from two and the 15mnth is one from one. Hard to watch the whole game when you're taking a toddler up and down the stairs, but what a great win.
Why wasn't the Giant player pinged for a deliberate rushed behind when he kicked a point for us in the third qtr?
Comedy of the day - Daisy and Gibbs running into each other.
Defensive effort was sensational with many great individual and team moments.
Hopefully ACOS is ok, but if he does miss, he has instilled a lot of confidence into the back third.
Great roar at the final siren.
Mumford and Johnston cost GWS that game, stupid mistakes from seasoned players at critical moments!
Wrong LP.
22 blokes in navy blue cost GWS that game !! ;)
You're very welcome - it was a long time coming but a pleasure to watch.
Thanks RR.
You may have saved LJs footy career. ;)
You're very welcome - it was a long time coming but a pleasure to watch.
Yes, you do deserve recognition RR ... and I have to admit that I didn't think he had a chance of making it as a defender.
Has Cunningham stamped Boeky's papers for him???
Wrong LP.
22 blokes in navy blue cost GWS that game !! ;)
Especially our defensive efforts. We had them under pressure and frustrated them for most of the game. Their prima donnas were truly exposed.
Has Cunningham stamped Boeky's papers for him???
He has certainly stamped his own long term working visa.
If Boekhurst could show as much, there'd be room for both. But when you remember that he arrived as a 21 year old and is now 23, there can't be that much unrealised potential remaining. It's not as if he's a 206cm guy who's still growing into his body.
Still, whatever happens he may just be the first and only Blaine to play at AFL level.
What fun! Been taking the 6 year old to a couple of games this year and this was his first win. Even better was waking up mum and dad this morning shouting the club song! A fourth generation carlton supporter is secured.
One of the best wins for a decade. Kruezer best on ground with great performances from many. Really impressed to see the team making adjustments during games and showing how organised they are becoming. It shows the coaches are working well and senior players are leading. Its why gibbs and thomas are so important.
Great afternoon at the footy. Go blues!
Thought Cunningham was so clean when others fumbled. He is a star in the making and a real gem. See the below that wrote 2 seasons ago. Maybe someone from the club read this and passed it on to BB.
I feel a tad responsible ;)
Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Round 5 preview Carlton v Collingwood
« on: April 26, 2015, 08:35:03 PM »
I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this before but Jones is quick and moves really well and has a clue about football. This though hasn't translated into any decent games for us.
I think he would do really well as a defender. Definitely tall with decent mitts. He won't last as a forward so drop down back and I think it will be the making of him.
Just saying
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We had a much-maligned forward back in the sixties who was the whipping boy of the day. When he was switched to the backline he won a Brownlow - GORDON COLLIS.
He had similar attributes to Jones. Moving a non-productive forward to the backline was a far more common move back then.
;) ;) ;) ;)
Just on Jones' late bump on Stevie J, the free kick was definitely there but sometimes in our game the punishment doesn't fit the crime and that was one of them.
It wasn't high and Johnson got straight to his feet, and it was only marginally late, yet the penalty was a certain goal.
The 50 paid to Gibbs was a bit soft as well, but Gibbs at least had to convert from 45 metres.
I don't know what can be done about it but close games shouldn't be decided by 50/50 umpiring calls.
Overall I thought that the umpiring was good and the umpires are only following instructions, but some calls don't seem to pay enough respect to the spirit of the game in my opinion.
We had a much-maligned forward back in the sixties who was the whipping boy of the day. When he was switched to the backline he won a Brownlow - GORDON COLLIS.
He had similar attributes to Jones. Moving a non-productive forward to the backline was a far more common move back then.
;) ;) ;) ;)
That comparison occurred to me too Chalky - and they're both rangas!
Just on Jones' late bump on Stevie J, the free kick was definitely there but sometimes in our game the punishment doesn't fit the crime and that was one of them.
It wasn't high and Johnson got straight to his feet, and it was only marginally late, yet the penalty was a certain goal.
The 50 paid to Gibbs was a bit soft as well, but Gibbs at least had to convert from 45 metres.
I don't know what can be done about it but close games shouldn't be decided by 50/50 umpiring calls.
Overall I thought that the umpiring was good and the umpires are only following instructions, but some calls don't seem to pay enough respect to the spirit of the game in my opinion.
i watched the replay at 0430 this morning. i thought the umpiring in H1 was deplorable in the lop sided nature and inconsistrent application of the rules - and very much to GWS's favour....
Later less so but a couple of non decisions that should have been frees our way - the tackle on Heath Shaw (who threw it away) - nothing (in the Q3), the point kicked by one of the GWS players (through our goals) - simply had to be a free our way - and the late rumble on Matt Wright after marking. Not to mention the laughable deliberate against Weitering with seconds to go.....
Great win!
I remember thinking at the time that some of the decisions and non-decisions were very iffy, mostly those that happened to favour the Giants! I just got the feeling that the AFL wanted a GWS win to support another premiership tilt - just call me paranoid. ???
It's probably fair to say that if you went through the posts on any football club's fan sites that the majority of posters would consider that the umpiring is generally biased against their club.
It's difficult for passionate Carlton supporters not to watch games through a Navy Blue lens, some would say it's impossible.
I know that I do.
Here's my pregame drivel
Fair chance for sure. I've tipped Giants, so we're in with a chance according to my 2017 tipping stats :P
See, I've got absolutely no idea. Never been happier to lose a tip ;D
So I've got nothing to lose right.... I predict we play finals this year. But as im pretty sure that's impossible, I'll predict we'll play finals next year. There, now you have my post game drivel fwiw ^-^
I tipped the Giants too. So far I have one winner this week, relying on Melbourne to make it 2...lol.
It's probably fair to say that if you went through the posts on any football club's fan sites that the majority of postets would consider that the umpiring is generally biased against their club.
It's difficult for passionate Carlton supporters not to watch games through a Navy Blue lens, some would say it's impossible.
I know that I do.
I do. I enjoy going on Big Footy during a game of the side that's losing. Besides the meltdown two things are very common. 1) the umpire cheats and 2) they want the coach sacked...lol.
I do. I enjoy going on Big Footy during a game of the side that's losing. Besides the meltdown two things are very common. 1) the umpire cheats and 2) they want the coach sacked...lol.
And whoever picked x instead of y is an imbecile.
And whoever picked x instead of y is an imbecile.
Yes, forgot about that one. It's as common as the other two.
Another reason to love Bolt's and his influence. Post match press conference, talking about Matty K:
"He's just so humble. If you met Kruz and he didn't have a Carlton top on, you wouldn't know he was an AFL footballer....and we want all our players with that sort of attitude."
No di@khead policy alive and well at Carlton. Don't think there'll be too many bigheads wandering around Ikon Park. Unlike the mob we played yesterday!
Just got around to checking the quarter by quarter stats to confirm what I 'remembered' from being at the game at that was Fishers strong last quarter. In this he had 7 of his 12 possessions.
I was a bit critical of his early game but pleased to see he had the poise and fitness to run this out really well. His 'Barry Breen' point was important of course - seemed to will himself to a number of contests. Really liking his endeavour (along with many others of course).
I remember thinking at the time that some of the decisions and non-decisions were very iffy, mostly those that happened to favour the Giants! I just got the feeling that the AFL wanted a GWS win to support another premiership tilt - just call me paranoid. ???
I would argue it looked like a clear free to Kelly that wasnt paid at the end so its swings and roundabouts I guess.
I would argue it looked like a clear free to Kelly that wasnt paid at the end so its swings and roundabouts I guess.
I always wear my blue lensed specs when I go to the footy GTC so frees to the opposition are very hard to see for me. :)
I always wear my blue lensed specs when I go to the footy GTC so frees to the opposition are very hard to see for me. :)
Thought so ;)
A lot of Collingwood supports are bleating at the moment. :)
Havent seen the game, only the last 10 mins. A mate who was at the game reckons Fisher was running around like a headless chook all day. Thoughts from people who saw the game live or otherwise would be appreciated.
Havent seen the game, only the last 10 mins. A mate who was at the game reckons Fisher was running around like a headless chook all day. Thoughts from people who saw the game live or otherwise would be appreciated.
I haven't seen the game either, but a mate who was there reckons he had heaps of 1%ers.
Havent seen the game, only the last 10 mins. A mate who was at the game reckons Fisher was running around like a headless chook all day. Thoughts from people who saw the game live or otherwise would be appreciated.
He's skinny and inexperienced but he's got skills and the right attitude, he'll have good and not so good days until he finds his feet.
I haven't seen the game either, but a mate who was there reckons he had heaps of 1%ers.
Absolutely. You'd reckon a break-out game is not far off for ZF.
He's skinny and inexperienced but he's got skills and the right attitude, he'll have good and not so good days until he finds his feet.
Fisher, cuningham, williamson et al lack the experience to run to position instinctively and so are often a second or two behind the pace. It results in the experienced players having to compensate a little, to withhold the hand ball a second or two later than they would like. Murphy, running like a maniac all day had a few moments where it seems he botched a pass. Yet he was often looking for a better option or an option in the right position. Its such a fast game that with a team of youngsters a few seconds behind the pace has a team effect.
Fisher, cuningham, williamson et al lack the experience to run to position instinctively and so are often a second or two behind the pace. It results in the experienced players having to compensate a little, to withhold the hand ball a second or two later than they would like. Murphy, running like a maniac all day had a few moments where it seems he botched a pass. Yet he was often looking for a better option or an option in the right position. Its such a fast game that with a team of youngsters a few seconds behind the pace has a team effect.
Yes, that's very true. The experienced players have to work just that little bit harder and it may seem that they've made a poor decision or inaccurate disposal. However, it will pay off in the near future as the youngsters get games under their belt.
Yes, that's very true. The experienced players have to work just that little bit harder and it may seem that they've made a poor decision or inaccurate disposal. However, it will pay off in the near future as the youngsters get games under their belt.
My friends main criticism centred around ZF's one sidedness. He reckons he always goes to his left and gets caught when the the option to go to his right was there and would have escaped trouble. He doesnt rate him, I beg to differ as the kid (from what I have seen) has poise, a weapon of a left foot and h e also has speed and tackles well (although I think he only laid 1 yesterday). As I said to my friend, better a kid who has a terrific preferred side disposal and no non preferred side than spuds with no preferred or non-preferred disposal skills. ZF will be a ripper, needs time to adjust but I reckon he has exceeded expectations year 1 given his slight frame.
David Cunningham nailed the Rising Star nomination for round 12.
My friends main criticism centred around ZF's one sidedness. He reckons he always goes to his left and gets caught when the the option to go to his right was there and would have escaped trouble. He doesnt rate him, I beg to differ as the kid (from what I have seen) has poise, a weapon of a left foot and h e also has speed and tackles well (although I think he only laid 1 yesterday). As I said to my friend, better a kid who has a terrific preferred side disposal and no non preferred side than spuds with no preferred or non-preferred disposal skills. ZF will be a ripper, needs time to adjust but I reckon he has exceeded expectations year 1 given his slight frame.
What is your mates thoughts on Simmo then?
Speaking of which. Simmo did let his 1-sidedness bite him on the butt when he was forced to have a shot on his right, on the run. It barely scored. :-[
....but i think we can overlook that one given his career thus far. ;)
What is your mates thoughts on Simmo then?
Speaking of which. Simmo did let his 1-sidedness bite him on the butt when he was forced to have a shot on his right, on the run. It barely scored. :-[
....but i think we can overlook that one given his career thus far. ;)
Paul Couch did OK as well.
Has Buddy got a right side?
Re zf .... probably thinks he is a 18 yr old in his first season... fk some people stupid his makes some very good decisions and some poor ones as per his experience level ... skills are terrific
David Cunningham nailed the Rising Star nomination for round 12.
Would that be our David Cuningham with one N?
Well deserved and I expect we'll have a few more before long.
Fisher will be fine, lots of lefties cant use their right but have great careers....the kid has smarts, is very aware in close and his only deficiency is lack of strength and size.
Dont see Simpson using his right ever but after 300 games he doesnt get caught much, the average mug opposition player will always setup to defend most players as right footers anyway. Only the real defensive stoppers of high quality would have it in their memory that Fisher is left footed so he will get away with being a leftie only more often than not....
Dont see Simpson using his right ever but after 300 games he doesnt get caught much
Unfortunately he was caught out big time at a critical point on Sunday!
Unfortunately he was caught out big time at a critical point on Sunday!
Ok thats about 299 games he got away with it then... ;)
David Cunningham nailed the Rising Star nomination for round 12.
Very happy for DC, seems to be finding his place nicely. Confidence is a wonderful thing.
Very happy for DC, seems to be finding his place nicely. Confidence is a wonderful thing.
Yep well done to him...One of those players that goes better in the seniors than he ever will in the twos IMO, been a real find and having mids who kick goals
are a precious commodity...
Very happy for DC, seems to be finding his place nicely. Confidence is a wonderful thing.
Great news. Well done DC.
Great news. Well done DC.
Well done indeed. Good stuff DC.
Another one from the 2015 draft that will be a keeper.
Went to the game and only watched the replay last night.
Still think the umpiring against us was crape - they very nearly got GWS over the line in the last 5 mins!
I thought at The game that Gibbs spectated a bit but actually he was very good.
Fisher and Jed look similar on the run!
Marchbank made errors but god he's a good player - he made a lot of plays and altho two bad kicks I see such good signs there.
Thought Plow was great.
And thought at the game Sumner did not much but again on tv you can see how at times he was fully in the game.
Go Blues - I just love the intensity we're seeing! Looking back to days under Mm gosh they were bad days viewing live, depressing really! But not this ^-^
I wonder if more than a few of the GWS blokes now realise that drinking your own bathwater can leave a bad taste in your mouth?
I wonder if more than a few of the GWS blokes now realise that drinking your own bathwater can leave a bad taste in your mouth?
That Toby Green is such a Tosser ::)
Don't like the guy and his attitude, the new Stevie J I think?
If Toby Green wanted to come to PP, I'd be wrapped. Might be a smart @rse (which can be educated out of him) but he's one helluva player.
If Toby Green wanted to come to PP, I'd be wrapped. Might be a smart @rse (which can be educated out of him) but he's one helluva player.
Agreed, he's a Robinson type, but a far far better footballer. Green, as bog of a knob as he is, remains an A Grade footballer!
But does he fit with BB's ethos or players with good character, humility, gratitude and stability?
If Toby Green wanted to come to PP, I'd be wrapped. Might be a smart @rse (which can be educated out of him) but he's one helluva player.
Absolutely.
The guy is getting some criticism after almost winning the last two games single handedly.
Christ, the fact he was in so much play so late in the game tells you he's a guy who wants the ball when it's close. And I got the feeling late in our game we had a few that were a little bit reluctant to take responsibility.
Christ, the fact he was in so much play so late in the game tells you he's a guy who wants the ball when it's close. And I got the feeling late in our game we had a few that were a little bit reluctant to take responsibility.
I'd have moire faith in Toby Greene maintaining his influence away from the surroundings of the magnificent GWS list than Joshua Kelly.
Greene is a more of a physical player, and it's clear he has that bit of bastard about him!
I think if Toby Greene learns to sacrifice, he can be as influential as Sam Mitchell, all be it in a different role.
Greene playing under BB would be pretty good! ;)
Greene playing under BB would be pretty good! ;)
Then we would have Greene shoots. Or at least one.
I thought at The game that Gibbs spectated a bit but actually he was very good.
I was at the game and thought the same, I have since watched the game twice.
Not sure he did that much at all.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-12/blues-bag-third-rising-star-nomination-cuningham
Great work DC.
I'd have moire faith in Toby Greene maintaining his influence away from the surroundings of the magnificent GWS list than Joshua Kelly.
Greene is a more of a physical player, and it's clear he has that bit of bastard about him!
I think if Toby Greene learns to sacrifice, he can be as influential as Sam Mitchell, all be it in a different role.
Green would probably play a fair bit of midfield for us.
Still no word on Alex.
Still no word on Alex.
Yeah I agree it's a bit worrying.
He almost certainly would have had a scan yesterday and the silence is deafening!
AFL360 showed Bolton's post-siren reaction in the coach's box last night... he went nuts.
I'm sure they will replay it again this week, worth keeping an eye out for!
Interesting to hear AFL is investigating GWS runner Nick Maxwell after the media comments about him staying on the field, setting up zones and potentially coaching.
I'm with the media, if you recruit athletes who have no football brains you should not be allowed to bridge the footy-smarts gap by having a running act as their thoughts, eyes and ears!
Went to the game and only watched the replay last night.
Still think the umpiring against us was crape - they very nearly got GWS over the line in the last 5 mins!
I thought at The game that Gibbs spectated a bit but actually he was very good.
Fisher and Jed look similar on the run!
Marchbank made errors but god he's a good player - he made a lot of plays and altho two bad kicks I see such good signs there.
Thought Plow was great.
And thought at the game Sumner did not much but again on tv you can see how at times he was fully in the game.
Go Blues - I just love the intensity we're seeing! Looking back to days under Mm gosh they were bad days viewing live, depressing really! But not this ^-^
I actually thought the same thing re Gibbs
In one passage Gibbs turns the ball over with a poor kick into our forward 50. The ball was quickly rebounded out the other side of the ground and Gibbs just casually walks across from where he kicked it.
Very pedestrian for someone who just turned it over !!
Then he calls for the short 15 metre pass back on the 45 and was ignored so he gave the player who ignored him a mouthful.
I love Bryce but this who piece of play was ordinary !!
Now a positive !! Charlie Curnow could be something else. The tap back into the middle of the ground to our runners from a big contested mark contest was special.
Interesting to hear AFL is investigating GWS runner Nick Maxwell after the media comments about him staying on the field, setting up zones and potentially coaching.
I'm with the media, if you recruit athletes who have no football brains you should not be allowed to bridge the footy-smarts gap by having a running act as their thoughts, eyes and ears!
I remember against the CATS their runner was right in the middle of our goal square with seconds to go and Mitch Robbo had to push him out of the way to get passed him .Any other club would have got a 50 metre penalty for interference but not us of course .
I thought it was funny that Clarkson was complaining about the umps the cheek no team gets away with murder like the Dawks
I thought it was funny that Clarkson was complaining about the umps the cheek no team gets away with murder like the Dawks
The fine means nothing, it's a cheap way to buy influence over umpires.
If the AFL were ever fair-dinkum about their custodianship of the game they should suspend coaches for this rubbish!
Sheedy did it for years, Hird learned it from him, and Clarkson and the Scotts keep the tradition going!
Interesting to hear AFL is investigating GWS runner Nick Maxwell after the media comments about him staying on the field, setting up zones and potentially coaching.
I'm with the media, if you recruit athletes who have no football brains you should not be allowed to bridge the footy-smarts gap by having a running act as their thoughts, eyes and ears!
No runners on the ground during play. That will solve it once and for all.
No runners on the ground during play. That will solve it once and for all.
I have no problem with runners as long as they are not coaching and get on and off the ground quickly.
If the media reports are correct Maxwell was acting as a defacto line coach, at junior level runners get suspended for that type of behavior!
No runners on the ground during play. That will solve it once and for all.
Agree. Runners have no legitimate purpose when the interchange is there. Get rid of them, including those with drinks etc. Medicos for injured players only. There is clear evidence every week they are coaching players. Easy to stop it.
Agree. Runners have no legitimate purpose when the interchange is there. Get rid of them, including those with drinks etc. Medicos for injured players only. There is clear evidence every week they are coaching players. Easy to stop it.
How do you get players off to give them a message when there is no runner, do we stop play like soccer?
How do you get players off to give them a message when there is no runner, do we stop play like soccer?
I can't think of another sport where people are running on and off the ground during play delivering coaching messages. There is an interchange bench where messages can be delivered and passed onto the field via players. There is also a leadership group that can make calls on the field.
I can't think of another sport where people are running on and off the ground during play delivering coaching messages. There is an interchange bench where messages can be delivered and passed onto the field via players. There is also a leadership group that can make calls on the field.
Most other sports;
- Play on grounds less than half the size.
- In front of a crowd similarly smaller.
- For 1hr less
- With half the number of players.
- And with lots of natural breaks in play!
We complain about players who are distracted or lose concentration for a second, do we want them relaying messages pass-it-on style? FFS, they struggle to get things right as it is! ;D
I've no problem with runners, as long as they stay within the rules.
Most other sports.
Play on grounds less than half the size, in front of a crowd similarly smaller, for 1hr less, with half the number of players, with lots of natural breaks in play!
We complain about players who are distracted or lose concentration for a second, do we want them relaying messages pass-it-on style? FFS, they struggle to get things right as it is! ;D
I really think that runners are redundant and nowadays are mainly used to crowd play. Anyway, 80 interchanges per game = 80 opportunities to deliver a message.
Still no word on Alex.
Confirmed as rumored post match, knee bone bruising 3 to 4 weeks.
Confirmed as rumored post match, knee bone bruising 3 to 4 weeks.
Yep, got it. Muchas gracias.
Didn't someone earlier in this thread question Zac Fishera contribution? 22 pressure acts in the game ;D
Didn't someone earlier in this thread question Zac Fishera contribution? 22 pressure acts in the game ;D
What is the definition of pressure act and what is the norm or average for a game?
Didn't someone earlier in this thread question Zac Fishera contribution? 22 pressure acts in the game ;D
the kid needs a reun in the 2s. him out SPS in this week....
any word on Alex S. yet?
the kid needs a reun in the 2s. him out SPS in this week....
any word on Alex S. yet?
Fishers effort at the end of the game won us the game. He stays.
4-6 on alex
SPS in for Alex.
the kid needs a reun in the 2s. him out SPS in this week....
any word on Alex S. yet?
Agree comes across as running around like a headless chook. Lots of action with no result. He is lacking touch as I am sure he knows how to find the pill. I will leave SPS in 2nds until he regains some touch as well.
I would reward in form players wherever possible and neither Fisher and SPS are in form. Not sure who is playing consistently well but would bring Nicky G back into the team Gold Coast will be a hard game .
Agree comes across as running around like a headless chook. Lots of action with no result. He is lacking touch as I am sure he knows how to find the pill. I will leave SPS in 2nds until he regains some touch as well.
I would reward in form players wherever possible and neither Fisher and SPS are in form. Not sure who is playing consistently well but would bring Nicky G back into the team Gold Coast will be a hard game .
fair call,
I prefer not to be too critical of Zac, Samo, Cunningham, or any other first or second year player. The enormous transition to another state, league, school- profession, game plan, and all the fruit that goes with it is enough for any teenager to manage.
Manage their load and develop their skills by all means. Whatever that takes, will be closely planned by club staffers.
Weiters, SOJ, Charlie, Cunners, Samo, Fisher, and Williamson have all shown plenty in the 1's given their relative stage of development.
Go new Blues
What is the definition of pressure act and what is the norm or average for a game?
22 is a big number. A couple of years ago I recall a game where we were pumped and we had only one player (Daisy) who made double digits.
22 is a big number. A couple of years ago I recall a game where we were pumped and we had only one player (Daisy) who made double digits.
Thankyou
Could someone show me where that pressure act stat of 22 cam from please - reeks of BS to me...
It was on the top 5 for game day - it gets sent by CFC ato FB and Instagram accounts - im trying to put the picture up but haven't worked out how to do it yet
Pic was too large but here's the write up
http://m.carltonfc.com.au/news/2017-06-13/top-5-stats-round-12
Could someone show me where that pressure act stat of 22 cam from please - reeks of BS to me...
It was in the paper version of the heraldsun. I can confirm the number is true.
Call me old fashioned but 12 disposals, 1 tackle and 1 point in the game oh no, there's more too - 22 pressure acts....
Someone is smoking something. Does this stat include chasing a player but not laying a hand on them?! ::) ::)
Is there a stat for "Acts that turn and win a game"? That would be quite a useful measure. 8)
Is there a stat for "Acts that turn and win a game"? That would be quite a useful measure. 8)
Probably, Daisy gets it for his last 30s.
Call me old fashioned but 12 disposals, 1 tackle and 1 point in the game oh no, there's more too - 22 pressure acts....
Someone is smoking something. Does this stat include chasing a player but not laying a hand on them?! ::) ::)
Hi Old-Fashioned,
Daisy won us the game with three pressure acts and one disposal, all in the last 30s! ;D
Regards,
Progressive
Pressure act mean "involved in the game but didn't get a stat"... kind of like what Cyril Rioli does. Impact without getting kicks if you know what I mean.
To measure a stat, there would be some criteria surrounding what it constitutes.
My guess at what it means is an act where a player is involved in a play without necessarily getting a stat (tackle, disposal, 1%) which results in a turnover.
That becomes tangible.
I reckon its probably a bit like the tennis statistic of the "forced error".
Besides that who knows, but the fact that he scored highly is irrelevant of its own. Its just a number. What becomes important is how the rest of his teamates went, and what the average is.
Pressure act mean "involved in the game but didn't get a stat"... kind of like what Cyril Rioli does. Impact without getting kicks if you know what I mean.
So similar to the 1%ers.
Forcing opponents into error, choose the wrong option.
Forcing a stutter, delaying an opponent.
Smoothers, interfering with an opponents handball.
Bumps and shepherds.
Basically things that contribute to opposition clangers.
Besides that who knows, but the fact that he scored highly is irrelevant of its own. Its just a number. What becomes important is how the rest of his teamates went, and what the average is.
I suppose it signals effort and influence, a bit like the reasons for Daisy being selected. ;)
Maybe a more important measure is the effect it has on team-mates! :o
I suppose it signals effort and influence, a bit like the reasons for Daisy being selected. ;)
Maybe a more important measure is the effect it has on team-mates! :o
Both true enough statements.
Statistically speaking, this stat might be game high for our team, but like all stats, if high for the competition is 30, then 22 is reasonable for a young player. If 15 is high for the competition, then 22 becomes impressive.
The effect it has on team mates, is difficult to measure, but it would be appreciated and that's all that matters there.
The pessimist in me reminds me that our club is looking for as many small wins as it can get, so highlighting stuff like this for a youngster is important as a small win in case we dont get the big win, so the fact we won by a point is important to note in this regard.
The pessimist in me reminds me that our club is looking for as many small wins as it can get, so highlighting stuff like this for a youngster is important as a small win in case we dont get the big win, so the fact we won by a point is important to note in this regard.
I don't think BB is like that, I am sure he wouldn't allow a player to have their tyres pumped up if it wasn't deserved.
Call me old fashioned but 12 disposals, 1 tackle and 1 point in the game oh no, there's more too - 22 pressure acts....
Someone is smoking something. Does this stat include chasing a player but not laying a hand on them?! ::) ::)
I believe it does, as well as corralling, closing and physical pressure. I guess it is meaningful when the pressure act leads to a turnover or stoppage.
The pessimist in me reminds me that our club is looking for as many small wins as it can get, so highlighting stuff like this for a youngster is important as a small win.
Or as BB would describe it "Another Green Shoot". The Club has been pretty clear that we should celebrate the small steps and that the big ticket items will follow. Fisher's exposure so far has been invaluable. I have faith in the match committee to make the right moves at the right time. They haven't let me down too often recently.
What's important is how the coach see's it then to a lesser extent the match committee and captain.
Headless chooks can have an impact but don't tend to last the distance and get plucked and cooked.
I believe it does, as well as corralling, closing and physical pressure. I guess it is meaningful when the pressure act leads to a turnover or stoppage.
Agree. The very best stats are the ones that lead to good outcomes like gaining possession of the ball or significant territory gained IMO, and especially those leading to shots on goal. Those achieved at critical times in a game are especially valuable.
Both true enough statements.
Statistically speaking, this stat might be game high for our team, but like all stats, if high for the competition is 30, then 22 is reasonable for a young player. If 15 is high for the competition, then 22 becomes impressive.
The effect it has on team mates, is difficult to measure, but it would be appreciated and that's all that matters there.
The pessimist in me reminds me that our club is looking for as many small wins as it can get, so highlighting stuff like this for a youngster is important as a small win in case we dont get the big win, so the fact we won by a point is important to note in this regard.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/pressure-the-coaches-buzzword/news-story/22407cd08343d8f43efb104d95499148
Record high is 49 in a game.
https://twitter.com/championdata/status/847994989816631296
Didn't someone earlier in this thread question Zac Fishera contribution? 22 pressure acts in the game ;D
Where was the stat from?
I only ask, because champion data pressure acts is different to AFL pressure points, so just keen to know where the actual stat is from
Probably, Daisy gets it for his last 30s.
Hi Old-Fashioned,
Daisy won us the game with three pressure acts and one disposal, all in the last 30s! ;D
Regards,
Progressive
"Man Up"
"Kick the thing.. its called Football"
"Make him earn it"
Where was the stat from?
I only ask, because champion data pressure acts is different to AFL pressure points, so just keen to know where the actual stat is from
Pressure acts are in the stats column of the printed Heraldsun.
Pressure acts are in the stats column of the printed Heraldsun.
well that'll make them gospel truth then. Undoubtedly! ;D ;D
"Man Up"
"Kick the thing.. its called Football"
"Make him earn it"
....and he calls the coach delusional for praising Daisy for similar and more.
You can lead a horse to water....
Pressure acts are in the stats column of the printed Heraldsun.
Okay thanks
From memory the Herald Sun uses Champion Data stats. So it will be their stat.
I ask because 22 Champion Data Pressure Acts is a lot better than 22 pressure points from the AFL site.