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Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension

Reply #105
If Daisy was on 200k he would still not be earning his money so I'm not sure why anyone here feels the need to inflate the figure? There is no need to.

In fairness to many posters on here, they are just believing what Anderson Ralph wrote, that was their first mistake! ;)
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Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension

Reply #106
In fairness to many posters on here, they are just believing what Anderson wrote, that was their first mistake! ;)

Who is Anderson?

It doesn't really matter whether Daisy is on $600,000 or $750,000 per season.  Reasonable due diligence would have revealed that $500,000 was more than enough and, more importantly, he would never get close to his best form.

Interestingly, his lack of leadership is revealed as one of the reasons Collingwood was keen to move him on.

It really was a poor, indeed inexplicable decision.
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Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension

Reply #107
Acquiring Dale Thomas was a stupid move and especially at that price, it is beyond belief that the hierarchy let it happen - or endorsed it!

Never again under SOS and BB!

Would love this to be Thomas and Jones last year sop we can just pay them out and free up a couple of extra spots on the list - or maybe down grade Jones to the rookie list for his final year next year if we can't afford to cut ties with him.

Thomas's contacts is hurting us and will continue until he goes.

Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension

Reply #108
Who is Anderson?

It doesn't really matter whether Daisy is on $600,000 or $750,000 per season.  Reasonable due diligence would have revealed that $500,000 was more than enough and, more importantly, he would never get close to his best form.

Interestingly, his lack of leadership is revealed as one of the reasons Collingwood was keen to move him on.

It really was a poor, indeed inexplicable decision.

My bad, it was Jon Ralph writing the article not Jon Anderson.

Easy to claim due diligence in hindsight, hard to see how people establishing player values after the fact would translate the knowledge they gained into a prediction. Any such statements are really rubbish unless they can travel time.

Cannot take much notice of Collingwood's statements, they are all after the fact and they have a vested interest in bashing Carlton, but at the time they were ultra-bitter about Daisy's departure.
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Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension

Reply #109
maybe Carrots, but if its true, then our club was in dire straights and had no hope of pulling out of that mess with any credibility.

I don't know an organisation that is run by a CEO in isolation without input from many people which indicates we had multiple points of failure regarding all those poor decisions made.


In any case we have put it behind us, and no matter how bad these decisions were:

1.  We have moved on.
2.  It wont be a millstone that plagues us for more than a couple of years.
3.  We shouldnt lose any young talent on the back of not having cap room as we frankly have SFA players left worth paying big dollars to anyway.
4.  Regardess of what has happened, our future is looking up with SOS driving our policies in similar fashion to last year.

last but most importantly:

5.  As abysmal as our decision making has proven to be, nothing has/or ever will hurt us as much as the decisions that the Collins administration made on the back of the poor decisions made by Elliott which has brought our club to the position its in today.  We may have navagated out of our current mess much earlier with some better administration, but nothing compares to what happend back in 2004.  The decision to cut ties with Brittain was just one poor decision in a long line of other poor decisions, but the breaches and penalties have rendered us a basket case beyond anything else we have or ever will experience ever again.

Mate I beg to differ. We had already recovered from that under Ratts, the decision to sack him and appoint Mick, or moreover (IMO) the move to get Swann over from Collingwood, was the beginning of the end.
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Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension

Reply #110
My bad, it was Jon Ralph writing the article not Jon Anderson.

Easy to claim due diligence in hindsight, hard to see how people establishing player values after the fact would translate the knowledge they gained into a prediction. Any such statements are really rubbish unless they can travel time.

Cannot take much notice of Collingwood's statements, they are all after the fact and they have a vested interest in bashing Carlton, but at the time they were ultra-bitter about Daisy's departure.

No, they wanted him gone.  My outlaws have Collingwood connections and they were rapt with him going and us paying overs  >:(
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Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension

Reply #111
Mate I beg to differ. We had already recovered from that under Ratts, the decision to sack him and appoint Mick, or moreover (IMO) the move to get Swann over from Collingwood, was the beginning of the end.

Swann was hired in March 2007.
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Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension

Reply #112
No, they wanted him gone.  My outlaws have Collingwood connections and they were rapt with him going and us paying overs  >:(

It's like us saying we were glad Betts was leaving at the time, hardly a convincing argument after the fact and such statements usually arise out of bitterness.

"Daisy was the face of Collingwood" for much of his time over there, he was their poster boy despite his run of injuries. The day after he left he was all but accused of being the munitions supplier to Alan Didak and Christopher Wayne Hudson! ;)

Your assertion must be true, because Collingwood fans are never bitter at all! ::)
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Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension

Reply #113
Easy to claim due diligence in hindsight, hard to see how people establishing player values after the fact would translate the knowledge they gained into a prediction. Any such statements are really rubbish unless they can travel time.

We should have taken medical advice ahead of some schmuck's belief that he has the heart to work through the injury.

There's no point defending it, the only question is how McKay has survived it.


Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension

Reply #115
We should have taken medical advice ahead of some schmuck's belief that he has the heart to work through the injury.

There's no point defending it, the only question is how McKay has survived it.

You assume we didn't and you assume it was only McKay's responsibility.

Which is likely to be as accurate as the assumption that the club sacked Fev. ;)
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Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension

Reply #116
Mate I beg to differ. We had already recovered from that under Ratts, the decision to sack him and appoint Mick, or moreover (IMO) the move to get Swann over from Collingwood, was the beginning of the end.

Differ all you like.  Sticks pause regarding Rattens future if Malthouse wasnt available spoke volumes about the footy club.  The decision was not made in isolation to Swann.


At the end of the day we have moved on.  Forget these fossils, they are in the past, and thats where they are staying.
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Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension

Reply #117
It's like us saying we were glad Betts was leaving at the time, hardly a convincing argument after the fact and such statements usually arise out of bitterness.

"Daisy was the face of Collingwood" for much of his time over there, he was their poster boy despite his run of injuries. The day after he left he was all but accused of being the munitions supplier to Alan Didak and Christopher Wayne Hudson! ;)

Your assertion must be true, because Collingwood fans are never bitter at all! ::)

It was before the fact; they were gloating in the lead up and rapturous when it happened  :(
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Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension

Reply #118
You assume we didn't and you assume it was only McKay's responsibility.

Which is likely to be as accurate as the assumption that the club sacked Fev. ;)

Do you think we run a lemonade stand or something?

All high value contracts go to the board and they only get to the board with McKay's endorsement. Potentially, Swan took it straight there, circumventing that check (a possibility given his sacking but probably unlikely) which is about McKay's only get out clause.

Most likely is he was "convinced" that the contract should go through by Mick and Swan and for that, he would need to go.

 

Re: Daisy charged for striking Laidler! - can accept 1 game suspension

Reply #119
Do you think we run a lemonade stand or something?

You are the one who made the assertion that we didn't take advice in your statement below!

We should have taken medical advice ahead of some schmuck's belief that he has the heart to work through the injury.

There's no point defending it, the only question is how McKay has survived it.

So I appreciate you are ignoring the advice reported at the time that Buttifant had told Malthouse that Daisy was capable of making a full recovery, you write it off as smuck advice, fair enough. But you are making an even greater assumption that independent medical advice about Daisy would have been negative.

You don't know, you are just guessing and throwing darts!
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