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Re: 2017 Rd 8: Pre Game Judgements St Kilda vs Carlton

Reply #90
These selections are part of the rebuild.
We would have a better winning chance with Smedts and Kerridge but the two ins are very good prospects and we have to get games into them.
I agree with it, there's no other way.

Makes sense. Perhaps we've categorised games... those where we are playing v good sides in v good form hence give kids an education... and those against lower sides where we have a sniff so rest a kid or 3 and bring in experienced blokes who know their role and give our all to win and feed the members some hope. That's not to say we concede against better sides just that we don't want the value of education to be missed. Or maybe we just pick the best side for the conditions, from who is available.
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Re: 2017 Rd 8: Pre Game Judgements St Kilda vs Carlton

Reply #91
These selections are part of the rebuild.
We would have a better winning chance with Smedts and Kerridge but the two ins are very good prospects and we have to get games into them.
I agree with it, there's no other way.

I reckon there might be a some shuffling of players leading up to the bye and there's a Perth trip in there as well.
You can fool some of the people some of the time.......................................

Re: 2017 Rd 8: Pre Game Judgements St Kilda vs Carlton

Reply #92
Jack adds that hit up forward option and Fisher adds pace and quality ball use.  I can see why they have pushed Kerridge and Smedts out, for this week at least.

I'd have given weeters a break as well, lord knows he needs it.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: 2017 Rd 8: Pre Game Judgements St Kilda vs Carlton

Reply #93
ZF and SOJ in, Kerridge and Smedts out.


Emerg: Macreadie, Cuningham and Boekhorst.

The ins make sense. Zac rhymes with Jack. Its simple ;)
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.


Re: 2017 Rd 8: Pre Game Judgements St Kilda vs Carlton

Reply #95
I don't know that I would have made Silvagni and Fisher automatic inclusions, but that has happened. So be it.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: 2017 Rd 8: Pre Game Judgements St Kilda vs Carlton

Reply #96
Carlton

B: Lachie Plowman, Sam Rowe, Alex Silvagni.
HB: Kade Simpson, Caleb Marchbank, Tom Williamson.
C: Sam Docherty, Patrick Cripps, Matthew Wright.
HF: Sam Petrevski-Seton, Levi Casboult, Charlie Curnow.
F: Ed Curnow, Jacob Weitering, Dale Thomas.
R: Matthew Kreuzer, Bryce Gibbs, Marc Murphy.
Int: Nick Graham, Simon White, Zac Fisher, Jack Silvagni.

Emg: Harrison Macreadie, David Cuningham, Blaine Boekhorst

I think Jones is more than a little stiff not to mentioned here.

St Kilda

B: Jarryn Geary, Nathan J. Brown, Jimmy Webster.
HB: Jack Newnes, Jake Carlisle, Dylan Roberton.
C: Jack Billings, Jack Steele, Leigh Montagna.
HF: Jade Gresham, Nick Riewoldt, Maverick Weller.
F: Tim Membrey, Josh Bruce, Jack Sinclair.
R: Billy Longer, Sebastian Ross, Jack Steven.
Int: Luke Dunstan, Blake Acres, Sam Gilbert, Darren Minchington.

Emg: Paddy McCartin, Nathan Wright, Daniel McKenzie
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: 2017 Rd 8: Pre Game Judgements St Kilda vs Carlton

Reply #97
I don't know that I would have made Silvagni and Fisher automatic inclusions, but that has happened. So be it.

Jack could probably do with a week in the twos, just to freshen up.
Goals for 2017
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Play the most anti-social football in the AFL


 

Re: 2017 Rd 8: Pre Game Judgements St Kilda vs Carlton

Reply #98
Carlton

B: Lachie Plowman, Sam Rowe, Alex Silvagni.
HB: Kade Simpson, Caleb Marchbank, Tom Williamson.
C: Sam Docherty, Patrick Cripps, Matthew Wright.
HF: Sam Petrevski-Seton, Levi Casboult, Charlie Curnow.
F: Ed Curnow, Jacob Weitering, Dale Thomas.
R: Matthew Kreuzer, Bryce Gibbs, Marc Murphy.
Int: Nick Graham, Simon White, Zac Fisher, Jack Silvagni.

Emg: Harrison Macreadie, David Cuningham, Blaine Boekhorst

I think Jones is more than a little stiff not to mentioned here.

St Kilda

B: Jarryn Geary, Nathan J. Brown, Jimmy Webster.
HB: Jack Newnes, Jake Carlisle, Dylan Roberton.
C: Jack Billings, Jack Steele, Leigh Montagna.
HF: Jade Gresham, Nick Riewoldt, Maverick Weller.
F: Tim Membrey, Josh Bruce, Jack Sinclair.
R: Billy Longer, Sebastian Ross, Jack Steven.
Int: Luke Dunstan, Blake Acres, Sam Gilbert, Darren Minchington.

Emg: Paddy McCartin, Nathan Wright, Daniel McKenzie
4 Sams and 6 Jacks in one game must me some sort of a record. Throw in a Jacob, Jarryn, Jimmy, Jake, Jade and Josh there are alot of J's.
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2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
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Re: 2017 Rd 8: Pre Game Judgements St Kilda vs Carlton

Reply #99
Good selections. It's what I would have done with both Jack and Zac fit and healthy.

The two players dropped are spot on.

I am keen to get Cuningham in at some point.

Boekhorst as an emergency is a carrot for him that BB is using IMO.

Liam Jones missing out as an emergency is a strange one.

Re: 2017 Rd 8: Pre Game Judgements St Kilda vs Carlton

Reply #100
We like a bit of sting out of the track, Saints like it more firm, at Etihad we struggled vs the GC pace and I reckon it might be the same vs Stkilda...if it was at the MCG and a soft track I'd say we are a chance but Saints will start warm favourites and they seem to be a bogey team for us of recent years.
I think we will be more competitive than in the past but would love to see Reiwoldt rested and Hickey not playing.....

I tell you what I reckon this is would be in top 3-4 hardest fixtures for a side like us to face

With only the following being more of a worry.
Adelaide in Adelaide
GWS @ Etihad or up on their paddock

We will still cop some hidings, it is a fact of where we are at present and it is still quite possible to drop the heads and get run off our feet to the tune of 100 points, it is a reality when a good team is one fire.

We can beat the Saints, they are not the best team in the comp, but they will be extremely hard to beat on a fast surface and I tend to think they will win this by 7+ goals.
If we keep it respectable, if we do get within 4 goals (or win), it will be a massive effort.
Beating Essendon and Collingwood is GREAT as a supporter, but knocking off the Saints @ Etihad, with the way we play would say far more about where we are as a club imo
Goals for 2017
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Play the most anti-social football in the AFL


Re: 2017 Rd 8: Pre Game Judgements St Kilda vs Carlton

Reply #101
I tell you what I reckon this is would be in top 3-4 hardest fixtures for a side like us to face

With only the following being more of a worry.
Adelaide in Adelaide
GWS @ Etihad or up on their paddock

We will still cop some hidings, it is a fact of where we are at present and it is still quite possible to drop the heads and get run off our feet to the tune of 100 points, it is a reality when a good team is one fire.

We can beat the Saints, they are not the best team in the comp, but they will be extremely hard to beat on a fast surface and I tend to think they will win this by 7+ goals.
If we keep it respectable, if we do get within 4 goals (or win), it will be a massive effort.
Beating Essendon and Collingwood is GREAT as a supporter, but knocking off the Saints @ Etihad, with the way we play would say far more about where we are as a club imo

These are my sentiments too. This is about education for our younger guys and will certainly test our resolve. Haven't been able to go to the last two games but I will be there this week cheering them on. Looking forward to it AND it's on Sat arvo.  :)
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: 2017 Rd 8: Pre Game Judgements St Kilda vs Carlton

Reply #102
I tell you what I reckon this is would be in top 3-4 hardest fixtures for a side like us to face

With only the following being more of a worry.
Adelaide in Adelaide
GWS @ Etihad or up on their paddock

We will still cop some hidings, it is a fact of where we are at present and it is still quite possible to drop the heads and get run off our feet to the tune of 100 points, it is a reality when a good team is one fire.

We can beat the Saints, they are not the best team in the comp, but they will be extremely hard to beat on a fast surface and I tend to think they will win this by 7+ goals.
If we keep it respectable, if we do get within 4 goals (or win), it will be a massive effort.
Beating Essendon and Collingwood is GREAT as a supporter, but knocking off the Saints @ Etihad, with the way we play would say far more about where we are as a club imo

Ditto. Unlikely to win so gain as much as possible from the experience. This is where saints were a couple of years ago.

Go new Blues.
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: 2017 Rd 8: Pre Game Judgements St Kilda vs Carlton

Reply #103
St. Kilda always seem to grow another leg against us.

Hamill might have something to do with it.

Hes still in their coaching setup down there from what I understand.

At the end of the day, there are no easy matches, and its 22 vs 22 on matchday so a bit of luck and we can win.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: 2017 Rd 8: Pre Game Judgements St Kilda vs Carlton

Reply #104
St. Kilda always seem to grow another leg against us.

Hamill might have something to do with it.

Hes still in their coaching setup down there from what I understand.

At the end of the day, there are no easy matches, and its 22 vs 22 on matchday so a bit of luck and we can win.
My oath he is part of their coaching set up. He coached  in place of Richo for the JLT against us.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time