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Love to participate, but assuming Docherty and ?? are a part of our club is just too much assumption.

Quote from: laj on October 20, 2013, 12:25:01 pm

I like the idea of one ruck and the relief such as Casboult. I also like, and prefer, a spine of Jamison FB, Watson, who does ok each time he plays, at CHB, Henderson CHF and Waite FF. That means though we have to play the 2 rucks as well, who can slow up our mobility.

Maybe the other thing we can do is move Waite to the wing, as Richmond did with Richo late in his career, and play Casboult rather than a 2nd ruckman. Waite would play there well and it might just improve our midfield a bit too.

I like the idea of one ruck too, which is why Jesse White partnered with Kruezer would have been ideal. I prefer Warnock in over Casboult though, unless by some miracle he learns how to kick this off season. Rowe just runs out of puff too quick. Warnock trumps him too. Increasing Waites workload= bad idea. Already made of Glass and it robs us of some serious scoring power.

Two permanent key forwards and a resting ruck is the best forward structure. Playing full forward on the best defender and then pinch-hitting in the ruck (while your #1 ruck sits on the bench or rests at full forward) destroys your forward line imo. Having the 3 tall set up stretches the defence and makes their third tall defender accountable and also gives you the opportunity to have a genuine ruck man at stoppages for the entire game.

Most teams are changing to this strategy with Pies recruiting White, Freo - Gumbleton, Crows - Podsiadly, Tiges - Hampson and GWS - Mumford.

Quote from: Baggers on October 20, 2013, 10:25:23 pm

Love to participate, but assuming Docherty and ?? are a part of our club is just too much assumption.

I'm sure you could give it a crack mate 

Quote from: BlueAvenger on October 21, 2013, 04:41:43 pm

Quote from: Baggers on October 20, 2013, 10:25:23 pm

Love to participate, but assuming Docherty and ?? are a part of our club is just too much assumption.

I'm sure you could give it a crack mate 

Okay.... I'll give it a lash based on what we actually have at this minute.

B.  Walker.    Watson.    White.

HB.   Tuohy.    Jamison.   Simpson.

C.    Gibbs.    Judd.    Armfield.

HF.   Menzel.    Henderson.    Yarran.

FF.   Garlett.   Waite.    Kreuzer.

R.    Warnock.   Murphy.   McLean.

I.    Robinson.  Graham.   Curnow.   Bell.

E.   Casboult.   Duigan.  Carrazzo.

Quote from: BlueAvenger on October 21, 2013, 04:41:43 pm

Quote from: Baggers on October 20, 2013, 10:25:23 pm

Love to participate, but assuming Docherty and ?? are a part of our club is just too much assumption.

I'm sure you could give it a crack mate 

Okay.... I'll give it a lash based on what we actually have at this minute.

B.  Walker.    Watson.    White.

HB.   Tuohy.    Jamison.   Simpson.

C.    Gibbs.    Judd.    Armfield.

HF.   Menzel.    Henderson.    Yarran.

FF.   Garlett.   Waite.    Kreuzer.

R.    Warnock.   Murphy.   McLean.

I.    Robinson.  Graham.   Curnow.   Bell.

E.   Casboult.   Duigan.  Carrazzo.

Elwood you haven't made space for Daisy there ??

Quote from: BlueAvenger on October 21, 2013, 04:41:43 pm

Quote from: Baggers on October 20, 2013, 10:25:23 pm

Love to participate, but assuming Docherty and ?? are a part of our club is just too much assumption.

I'm sure you could give it a crack mate 

Okay.... I'll give it a lash based on what we actually have at this minute.

B.  Walker.    Watson.    White.

HB.   Tuohy.    Jamison.   Simpson.

C.    Gibbs.    Judd.    Thomas.

HF.   Menzel.    Henderson.    Yarran.

FF.   Garlett.   Waite.    Kreuzer.

R.    Warnock.   Murphy.   McLean.

I.    Robinson.  Armfield.   Curnow.   Bell.

E.   Casboult.   Graham.  Carrazzo.

To push for a flag, you need 5 or 6 players who can make a claim at AA selection.

The days of this for Judd have gone, same too Scotto and Waite. Possibly Carrots too.

Thomas, Muprhy, Henderson, Jamison (though has waned recently), Yarran, Gibbs, maybe special K are all posibilities but all have big question marks.

Doesn't seem enough quality and our foot soldiers all have major deficiencies. Will be an interesting year.

Quote from: ItsOurTime on October 22, 2013, 02:26:02 pm

To push for a flag, you need 5 or 6 players who can make a claim at AA selection.

The days of this for Judd have gone, same too Scotto and Waite. Possibly Carrots too.

Thomas, Muprhy, Henderson, Jamison (though has waned recently), Yarran, Gibbs, maybe special K are all posibilities but all have big question marks.

Doesn't seem enough quality and our foot soldiers all have major deficiencies. Will be an interesting year.

Agree with you there, 2014 is a very important year for our development. We can't blame the new coach/new game plan thing anymore, Everyone on the list for 2014 should be absolutely on board with all of that, and Mick should have a much better understanding of how to get the best out of the playing group. You only get that understanding through experience, but he'll have had plenty of time by then.

We could either jump up like Freo did under Ross Lyon, or we could slip even further down the ladder.

Make or break year for everyone at the club next year, really.

No excuses should be tolerated at any level.

Agree, and it'll be down to pretty much the same list we fielded this year. Can't say I'm feeling optimistic but if things go pear shaped at least it will be a good reason to clear out the club's management and admin. from board down to bootstudders.