OK... season 2015...starting... now :D
wet day whoever wants it more will win it.
wet day whoever wants it more will win it.
Richardson knows our weakness, we hate physical football and we go into our shell when we are tackled.
dont have foxtel...only on sen.radio..quiet day being anzac day... listening to the great carlton playing in another country in front of 8,000 people...
just how weird footy is nowadays :-\ :-\ :-\
Richardson knows our weakness, we hate physical football and we go into our shell when we are tackled.
We flogged the bombers in both contested possessions and clearances last week. Doubt Saints can be as physical as the bombers were.
We need to get a hang of this wind. Missed 2 shots on goal, only 1 of them scored.
They've been a bit lucky with the 2 goals they've kicked so far.
Hendo to have a shot now.
Boeky playing well providing us with run and carry....including without the ball.
Sets up an everitt goal......which may have hit the post!
....which they have just overturned. ???
Sorry but our list is not this bad. I pray the Saints drop off and let us back in.
This is putrid, don't know why I even bothered putting this on my computer just now.
Sorry but our list is not this bad. I pray the Saints drop off and let us back in.
Are you watching it or listening to it?
Do we have anyone that can handball properly?
We are terrible
Thouey is possibly the worst on ground at the moment.
Are you watching it or listening to it?
Watching. Saints tackling so much harder. They will drop off though surely?
Carrazzo injured.
Actually we are all terrible and are cooked. Nearly qtr time and we are down by 4 goals.
Carrazzo off limping.
We flogged the bombers in both contested possessions and clearances last week. Doubt Saints can be as physical as the bombers were.
We need to get a hang of this wind. Missed 2 shots on goal, only 1 of them scored.
They've been a bit lucky with the 2 goals they've kicked so far.
Hendo to have a shot now.
Contested possessions and clearances are unrelated to physically hard football!
We flogged the bombers in both contested possessions and clearances last week. Doubt Saints can be as physical as the bombers were.
We need to get a hang of this wind. Missed 2 shots on goal, only 1 of them scored.
They've been a bit lucky with the 2 goals they've kicked so far.
Hendo to have a shot now.
Take off the blue glasses mate.
Enough with the spin. We are sh1t.
Are you watching the same game I am. no good looking at one stat we do ok in and ignore ALL the rest we are terrible at.
Levi first shot out on the full.
Murph cant take a clean possession. Keeps having to try and grab the ball twice and losing it.
Take off the blue glasses mate.
Enough with the spin. We are sh1t.
Are you watching the same game I am. no good looking at one stat we do ok in and ignore ALL the rest we are terrible at.
The thing is Shawny we are going backwards, we were not this bad in the past and a lot of our blokes are now at prime AFL age!
Saint Kilda kids are rag-dolling our seasoned AFL players!
Gibbs looks like a woolly woofter with that bun.
Yeah, Casboult should be persevered with :rolleyes: ....................... can't do the most important skill in the game.
Get rid of him, open to offers at end of season !!
Watching. Saints tackling so much harder. They will drop off though surely?
Tackling harder, yes, buts thats because we have had more of the ball.
I think they've been luckier thus far.
The goal they got from the smother.
The banana kick from the wrong wide etc.
That free from the simpson shephard.
Our shots have been more structured, we just can't kick straight.
Wood missed everything.
Jones missed from 20m.
Everitt hit the post.
Army played on and kicked out on the full from a Jones free.
They've got a couple of cheap ones.
If we can learn to keep a player down at the marking contests, we'll be better for it.
Now lets see if Cas can kick....
Levi first shot out on the full.
Murph cant take a clean possession. Keeps having to try and grab the ball twice and losing it.
It's the physicality, we are no good under that sort of pressure, we start looking over our shoulder!
The senior guys are looking like a bunch of blokes who are thinking, "It's a rebuild!"
Contested possessions and clearances are unrelated to physically hard football!
So are Carlton
If the Saints kick the first one of the second quarter, this one is over !!
We simply cannot handball to advantage. We throw the ball on the boot like it's under 14's footy.
FFS give first option to a player in space
I hate to say this, because I love Carlton;
But we have a list full of Griggs, and a coach suffering dementia!
Next week they will be celebrating Mick, it might be a wake!
What the hell is going on? Luckily it's the saints and they can fall over but man, what a score line! :o
Again....winning contested possession and clearances.
Where are we losing it? Disposal efficiency. Can't find a teammate and can't kick through the big ones.
TBH, i'd be more worried if that was the other way around.
At least we can get our hands on the ball. We just need to improve our disposal and the game will turn.
The reason we have so many contested possessions is because we are so slow
Again....winning contested possession and clearances.
Where are we losing it? Disposal efficiency. Can't find a teammate and can't kick through the big ones.
TBH, i'd be more worried if that was the other way around.
At least we can get our hands on the ball. We just need to improve our disposal and the game will turn.
Panicked disposals, because we don't like it tough, and nobody to give it to because of sh1te coaching!
Too many taggers!Aints are kids we should come back, but that sort of start against good sides and it's over!
One positive has been Cripps' work around the stoppages.
Good start to the second!
Oh look, the clearances turned into goals.
As long as we keep winning clearances, we are in this game....and this season.
Can jones get a free?
St. Kilda without an efficient disposal this quarter in 4 minutes of play.
Our intensity has increased dramatically.
Great play set up by Tuohy from half back.
Strong running by Boeky
and Hendo
Down the guts, fast movement on the rebound.
Once again handball is terrible
Loving sando's commentary
OMG, pathetic team pathetic coach. You make me want to vomit Carlton. The house that Mick built.
St. Kilda without an efficient disposal this quarter in 4 minutes of play.
Our intensity has increased dramatically.
Bet you regret that post!
Time to make a statement... Mr Gibbs, here are your Northern team mates.... You can come back when (a) you can hit a target (b) you give 100% (c) you stick a tackle.
LOL Saints teenagers pushing around Murphy.
Bet you regret that post!
What is to regret? I was quoting the commentators.
Are you under the delusion that something i say can somehow jinx the team? :o
Tuohy BOG ATM hold your head high son.
OMG, pathetic team pathetic coach. You make me want to vomit Carlton. The house that Mick built.
Pretty sure that comment was made because Gibbs was chased down. Not sure why that is a reference to Mick.
You want a reference to Mick...who kicked our last goal?
Oh look, the clearances turned into goals.
As long as we keep winning clearances, we are in this game....and this season.
Still got the blue glasses on krud?
Time to call it as it is mate.
We can't even execute basic skills. We are bottom 2 side whether we win the clearances or not.
Geez walker and Gibbs have been good :o
Game over.
Game over Carlton.
Game over for you Mick and the rest of our so called "coaches" and development staff. Ta Ta. Don't let the door slam on your asses on the way out.
What is to regret? I was quoting the commentators.
Are you under the delusion that something i say can somehow jinx the team? :o
If you're quoting someone else you should post it as a quote not like it's a statement, I thought it was your opinion!
Still got the blue glasses on krud?
Time to call it as it is mate.
We can't even execute basic skills. We are bottom 2 side whether we win the clearances or not.
I've said we need to learn how to kick and Casboult as our FF is a huge problem. It kills our momentum and confidence.
However, a lot of people wanted a competitive team that put in and showed effort. I think we are showing signs of that now. If we can improve our disposal, wins will come.
Pretty sure that comment was made because Gibbs was chased down. Not sure why that is a reference to Mick.
You want a reference to Mick...who kicked our last goal?
It as made because of the scoreline mate! Stop trying to pin my thoughts on something other than the blinding obvious!
Are you under the delusion that something i say can somehow jinx the team? :o
This is pretty much a proven thing - atleast with some posters (Brettie & Jim being the worst) ;D
If you're quoting someone else you should post it as a quote not like it's a statement, I thought it was your opinion!
Are you not watching the game? I thought you would've heard the same thing, thus realised.
Good to be the team scoring the junk time goals for once
Liam Joke.
Again....learn to kick, especially at goal, and this game is well and truly in our control!
Jones from 15m....again.
Army...again!
Two key forwards who can't kick straight!!!
Jones .................................................... !!!!
Why did we give him a 3-year deal ??
VFL player only !!
DE for the quarter
76 - carlton
58 - saints.
Possessions
90-odd - carlton
50-odd - saints.
Kick straight and we will be dominating.
Frustrating!
Are you not watching the game? I thought you would've heard the same thing, thus realised.
I don't listen to the TV commentators, I always have the TV muted with the radio on which is much better quality. You often hear about stuff that the TV doesn't even show!
Interesting that we have more handballs than kicks, which is pretty much unheard of for us.
Rowe is just awful.
Kick straight and we will be dominating.
Frustrating!
Kick straight ahead and we will be even better! ;)
Jones .................................................... !!!!
Why did we give him a 3-year deal ??
VFL player only !!
Are you serious we gave him three years? And people want to absolve Mick of any blame. Get him away from this club ASAP!!
Are you serious we gave him three years? And people want to absolve Mick of any blame. Get him away from this club ASAP!!
Rowe has murdered us.
14 points down. Not good enough. Murphy 15 possessions, but only 2 kicks.
Like I said, Mick has taken our list duds and turned them into major cogs in the side. No wonder we are so shight. The house that Mick built.
Rowe has murdered us.
I hope he is carrying an injury as his form this year has been nothing like last year. Reckon i would've preferred Jaksch the way Rowe has played today.
I hope he is carrying an injury as his form this year has been nothing like last year. Reckon i would've preferred Jaksch the way Rowe has played today.
We've actually been not bad. Buckley has given us run. Broky has shown us why they picked him. Hendo has been great. But Jones is a hack and Rowe is possibly the worst footballer currently in the league. But they keep playing him.
I hope he is carrying an injury as his form this year has been nothing like last year. Reckon i would've preferred Jaksch the way Rowe has played today.
Ditto with Jammo, just a spectator for most of the game so far.
We've actually been not bad. Buckley has given us run. Broky has shown us why they picked him. Hendo has been great. But Jones is a hack and Rowe is possibly the worst footballer currently in the league. But they keep playing him.
Oh, and Cripps has been fantastic. Again. He's a keeper.
Ditto with Jammo, just a spectator for most of the game so far.
It was our best pre-season in four or five years, wasn't it? :o
LOL at Malthouse screaming and yelling at the players in the changerooms. Hey Mick, guess what? That stops working after a while you absolute overpaid douche.
Oh, and Cripps has been fantastic. Again. He's a keeper.
The way the AFLPA is going, we may want to keep him but he won't want to stay! ;)
That comment from Mick about a two tiered system is the only accurate thing MM has said all season!
Saw Murph lay a crunching tackle and jumped out my seat screaming 'that's it Murph' then realised it was Cripps.
Just looked at that Saints list and that would have to be the most ordinary group of players ever to take an AFL field. Even with our injuries, I don't know how we are behind but surely that won't last.
We've actually been not bad. Buckley has given us run. Broky has shown us why they picked him. Hendo has been great. But Jones is a hack and Rowe is possibly the worst footballer currently in the league. But they keep playing him.
Jones hasn't been given much chop from the umps.
Despite that, if he had've kicked straight from 20m out, he'd have 3 goals by now.
Yes, he has made the easy look impossible, but its nothing we cannot fix.
Rowe just looks completely out of sorts. Maybe he doesn't have a decent matchup? He was great last year, but average this year.
LOL at Malthouse screaming and yelling at the players in the changerooms. Hey Mick, guess what? That stops working after a while you absolute overpaid douche.
Tell that to Rocket and Lake. ;)
Lets see how Casboult plays in the 2nd half. Some players respond to a rev.
Some don't.
Half time:
Carlton 6 - 4 - 40
St. Kilda 8 - 6 - 54
We have dominated the stats sheet.
192 disposals to 152
Clearances 25 to 19, with 9 centre clearances to 4.
14 free kicks to 6.
29 inside 50's to 25.
83 contested possessions to 68
30 hit outs to 24.
And yet we cannot kick a goal.
What does this say about our skills? Do we have any?
What does this say about our playing list? Granted that we are missing
[1] Menzel
[2] Judd
[3] Kreuzer
[4] Warnock
[5] Yarran
[6] Thomas
[7] White
[8] Byrne
[9] Sheehan
and had Tutt pull out on the morning of the game. It is a not a positive position to be in.
Rowe has murdered us.
Rowe is playing like he normally would, he had one breakout season (ie. purple patch) at CHB and people are now expecting him to play at that level all the time but he is not capable of reproducing it.
14 free kicks to 6.
First time in a decade :)) That's a bit scary actually, no doubt the umpires will get it in their head that they need to even that out in the second half :(
Half time:
Carlton 6 - 4 - 40
St. Kilda 8 - 6 - 54
We have dominated the stats sheet.
192 disposals to 152
Clearances 25 to 19, with 9 centre clearances to 4.
14 free kicks to 6.
29 inside 50's to 25.
83 contested possessions to 68
30 hit outs to 24.
And yet we cannot kick a goal.
What does this say about our skills? Do we have any?
What does this say about our playing list?
What does this say about our gameplan???
Rowe is playing like he normally would, he had one breakout season (ie. purple patch) at CHB and people are now expecting him to play at that level all the time but he is not capable of reproducing it.
The house that Mick built.
How many of our goals have been Joe The Goose jobs?
Rowe is playing like he normally would, he had one breakout season (ie. purple patch) at CHB and people are now expecting him to play at that level all the time but he is not capable of reproducing it.
It's time Hendo was back there!
The reason we have so many contested possessions is because we are so slow
It's true, plus we have a game plan that creates stoppages and contested possessions even when we are occasionally using the ball well our game plan makes a stoppage!
So in this respect the stats are a bit of a lie!
FYI, I heard the "Expert Commentators" on radio complaining that Freo's tackling is down this year, King, Luff and Half on SEN. That is because Freo's clear possessions and efficiency is up about 20% and nobody is getting close enough to them to create a turnover! They ignore that teams tackle when they don't have the ball!
For the betting types - we're $2. Looked like the Saints stopped running in that quarter. They could be buggered and are an awful list. Easy way to double your money IMO.
What does this say about our gameplan???
It's great, the players can't get enough ball or use it well enough! :D
It's time Hendo was back there!
Hendo has kicked half our goals though :(
Things of note while munching on fush n chups and a packed chilly bin..
We are very highly killed team.
Our ball use around stoppages is to die for.
We always put the ball on the chest by hand or foot.
Use of the ball around the ground is always to our advantage.
The leaders out there lead by example.
We always work well together and communicate, we never get to many at the ball.
Four up and none down is a certain way to will a contest. etc etc
Carrazzzo , Murphy, Gibbs are superstars who perform week in, week out.
It's time Hendo was back there!
You mean the bloke that's kicked half our goals and our seasons leading goal kicker needs to be played out of range of goal!
That would be like trying to stop the ocean by adding some sand bags, you know eventually the ocean will win! Better off to just let him learn to swim!
Half time:
Carlton 6 - 4 - 40
St. Kilda 8 - 6 - 54
We have dominated the stats sheet.
192 disposals to 152
Clearances 25 to 19, with 9 centre clearances to 4.
14 free kicks to 6.
29 inside 50's to 25.
83 contested possessions to 68
30 hit outs to 24.
And yet we cannot kick a goal.
What does this say about our skills? Do we have any?
What does this say about our playing list? Granted that we are missing
[1] Menzel
[2] Judd
[3] Kreuzer
[4] Warnock
[5] Yarran
[6] Thomas
[7] White
[8] Byrne
[9] Sheehan
and had Tutt pull out on the morning of the game. It is a not a positive position to be in.
Tutt adds nothing to this team and never will.
Warnock adds nothing to this team and never will.
Opposition game plan versus Carlton;
(http://www.iflscience.com/sites/www.iflscience.com/files/blog/%5Bnid%5D/track%20through%20aerogel.jpg)
Carlton game plan versus everyone;
(http://moedal.web.cern.ch/sites/moedal.web.cern.ch/files/u3/polymeric-bonds-NTD.jpg)
I'm watching this and thinking, are these bloke actually trying to win this game?
At this point in time, the answer to me at least, is NO.
I'm watching this and thinking, are these bloke actually trying to win this game?
At this point in time, the answer to me at least, is NO.
The Judge did us no favours, it's a rebuild.
The Judge's comments sucked all the player's motivation dry and the media are going to remind the players of those words at every opportunity!
Flubbo must have climaxed as he heard those words coming out of The Judge's mouth! The first thing Flubbo would have done is phone Hird, then second he would have written the headline before asking Murphy for an interview!
The question is why did The Judge say it, was it naive, an accident or deliberate! Is The Judge making sure there is no chance of re-signing Malthouse?
Typical of today. They get the bounce of the ball to get goals. We can't kick the simple ones from 15m out.
WOW....McCartin out, Saad in.
Maybe we can take Rowe off now as they have 1 less tall on the ground.
Are heads going to roll after this game?
Ding! Ding!
Bell, the unlikely goal kicker goes bang bang
Are heads going to roll after this game?
No chance, that is not our way!
In the past we were ruthless, now we are conformers!
At least bell wants to win!!
Just checking the scores on afl.com.au and reading a few comments here after doing the gardening this morning.
Should've stayed outside.
Army barely scraps it in for a behind. His best effort from 3 shots so far.
Jamo off for subbed in Dick.
Everitt goal.
Blues in front! With momentum.
I'm not a professional recruiter but I can pick a spud as well as any professional.
Ex-Footscray rejects....
good to see us scoring from a turnover for once ;D
We've hit the front !! :o
Cripps injured? holding his collar bone after a crunch in the guts. :-[
CRIPPS A FUTURE STAR!!!!!
Doesn't appear to be injured anymore.
Good leap for Cripps.
and 50!
Goal to Cripps.
Saints crumbling.
3-mins of the worst footy skills by two teams ever witnessed !!!
Doesn't appear to be injured anymore.
Good leap for Cripps.
and 50!
Goal to Cripps.
Saints crumbling.
I hate it when someone goes the early crow!!!
Just checking the scores on afl.com.au and reading a few comments here after doing the gardening this morning.
Should've stayed outside.
It's a cold wet morning in Melbourne. I also should have stayed out ;D
"Saints kicking at 43% this quarter"
Blues again, lifted the intensity, Saints got no direction now with only 1 key forward.
There's our next captain...right there! :D
I hate it when someone goes the early crow!!!
Well every other poster has gone the early crow the other way. Someone called game over at least a quarter ago.
I'll give you the hot tip....it doesn't make a difference at all. ;)
Jones busting his gut and giving himself every chance at the moment.
Kicking does let him down though.
Cripps has 4 kicks & 18 handballs to lead the disposal count !!
Jones misses a set shot ........... AGAIN !!
We've kicked 5 of the last 6 and Saints had stopped well before that run. Should cruise to an easy win from here.
Sounds like Murph is putting in a Captains game? :)
Saints have lost their bundle. We just need to capitalise in front of goal which isn't happening at the moment.
The PREMIERSHIP quarter is back ;D
How can we make beating this mob look so hard ?
Jamo with an iced calf.
Hopefully ok next week.
Jamo with an iced calf.
Hopefully ok next week.
WE are certainties ;D ;D ;) ;) ;) ;)
I can get 100/1 Levi kicking this goal, but I'm too scared to take those odds
Shouldn't lose from here !!
Phew, glad i didn't bet.
Casboult shows us again why he should not be at the club next year !!
Phew, glad i didn't bet.
I thought Sav Rocca was coaching his kicking? I wouldve thought Fev would've been a better bet? :o
WE are certainties ;D ;D ;) ;) ;) ;)
Look what you've done! :P
WE are certainties ;D ;D ;) ;) ;) ;)
I went the early crow >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Jones 1.3
Casboult 0.0
What a forward line !! >:D
Jones 1.3
Casboult 0.0
What a forward line !! >:D
What about Hendo?
3.1
Way to go Ring'a'ding, ding!
4.00 :)
All over now, we have finally broken the duck !!
Nice to see a late charge by the boys, but gee...............
done it the hard way naturally.
But with all those outs, was going to be a tough ask.....
Take the win.
I hate to say this, because I love Carlton;
But we have a list full of Griggs, and a coach suffering dementia!
Next week they will be celebrating Mick, it might be a wake!
Bet you regret that post. ;)
Play the kids... See what happens.
Least the pressure will be off Mick for his big week.
Rowe....again.
Just watched Rowe in that passage of play that resulted in a saints goal. He's 6 foot 5 in the old, and a big man, and absolutely cr@pped himself when so called tackling.
Just disgraceful. >:( >:( >:( >:(
Rowe....again.
Handball from walks was terrible.
Handball from walks was terrible.
Yes, but the total lack of determination by Rowe to tackle, was shocking.
Will be a 20-30 point win. Take that after where we started.
Could we have a NAB Rising Star nomination this week??? (and an ANzAC Medallist in one???)
Yes, but the total lack of determination by Rowe to tackle, was shocking.
I guess.
I really hope Rowe isn't just a "one hit wonder". Really want him to keep going from last season. A real worry at the moment.
Happy with Wood. Has a real go!
A few junk time goals.
It is only St Kilda - 4 points is always good.
On to next week.
Murphy has 24 contested possessions. 1 behind the all time record for a Carlton player held by Chris Judd
and Cripps is just 1 behind him :o
Could we have a NAB Rising Star nomination this week??? (and an ANzAC Medallist in one???)
Worth an investment... I had a little on him a few weeks ago. Has to be a lock to get the nomination this week.
Dare I say it, he is a lot like Jobe Watson when he started to emerge.
All the anti-mick folk have gone silent.
Patrick Cripps you are a STAR!
Murphy gets the medal.
Would've given it to Cripps personally.
All the anti-mick folk have gone silent.
:o
Just tell us what a great victory that was. :o
All the anti-mick folk have gone silent.
C'mon Kruddler, this win had nothing to do with Malthouse's coaching and more to do with the age and lack of experience of St Kilda.
40 points is still a good win but when you look at the sh1t level of play from both sides, it's hardly one to be proud of.
Cripps, Bell, Henderson, Touhy and Armfield good all day. Simpson, Murphy, Wood, Buckley and Docherty good in patches.
Walker, Gibbs, Curnow, Jameson bad!
Skipper deserves a bit of credit. Worked hard and got smashed repeatedly off the ball.
All the anti-mick folk have gone silent.
Nope, happy for the win and the less pressure on Mick for his big week.
Played the kids; coached well, win the game. Easy game.
Go blues!