Doing what we do best...giving up!
The culture is just so putrid.
Won't help, Chalky.
Hendo is gone at years end.
Yarran has got other things on his mind.
ALL THE MORE REASON TO P1SS THEM OFF TO THE NORTHERN BLUES NOW!
Doing what we do best...giving up!
The culture is just so putrid.
rotten to the core
as i suspected - its the players not the coach
rotten to the core
as i suspected - its the players not the coach
YOU ARE RIGHT THE PLAYERS ARE NOT GOD ENOUGH BUT THAT IS MORE REASON FOR THE COACH TO 'DRIVE' THEM. A GOOD COACH CAN GET THE RIGHT ATTITUDE IN HIS PLAYERS EVEN IF THEY HAVEN'T THE ABILITY. HOLD THE TACKLES, COMPETE, RUN, CONCENTRATE!
YOU ARE RIGHT THE PLAYERS ARE NOT GOD ENOUGH BUT THAT IS MORE REASON FOR THE COACH TO 'DRIVE' THEM. A GOOD COACH CAN GET THE RIGHT ATTITUDE IN HIS PLAYERS EVEN IF THEY HAVEN'T THE ABILITY. HOLD THE TACKLES, COMPETE, RUN, CONCENTRATE!
Check the light on the cap locks button there chalky :P
YOU ARE RIGHT THE PLAYERS ARE NOT GOD ENOUGH BUT THAT IS MORE REASON FOR THE COACH TO 'DRIVE' THEM. A GOOD COACH CAN GET THE RIGHT ATTITUDE IN HIS PLAYERS EVEN IF THEY HAVEN'T THE ABILITY. HOLD THE TACKLES, COMPETE, RUN, CONCENTRATE!
I'm with you Chalky.
look at Gold Coast, just drew with the eagles and without Ablett.
CHALKY IS VENTING AND RIGHTLY SO ;) ;)
I'm with you Chalky.
look at Gold Coast, just drew with the eagles and without Ablett.
Many at Carlton will be spewing..
I had to empty my bucket 4 times tonight, and it's the size of a 44 gallon drum.
That's big, for those who don't know what a gallon is. ::)
Henderson and Yarran played like they dont want to be at the club next season and I think Andy Carrazzo is also in retirement mode and knows we are just playing out time...
The commentators were talking about Carrots, having been to an umpires course, or something similar. I don't remember the exact details. That this is his final year is a foregone conclusion.
Thought we tried pretty hard and were doing OK until skill errors gave this mob of down hill skiers a break, it was all they needed and pretty much killed off our enthusiasm, frustrating to watch and on a few occasion Baker looked dumbfounded with what decisions we made, clearly not following instructions by the look on his face. The young guys like Smith and Boekhorst need to go with first option so they don't get caught at this stage of their introduction to AFL, thought Boekhorst showed something tonight which is promising as he was potential spud material, Cripps is great but needs to get the same kicking coach as Cas!
Still drank a lot of beer to ease the pain but I sure we will get better before I turn into an alcoholic
We'll be better when the faint hearted and the ones that don't want to be there have gone, together with those who just aren't up to it.
We'll be better when the faint hearted and the ones that don't want to be there have gone, together with those who just aren't up to it.
Cookie...We might have trouble fielding a team with that criteria :D
:D
10 odd goals against a middling side says it all, and little can be said that has not been said before.
It was encouraging to see Boekhorst play well in the first half. He has some skill and with good coaching will have a chance to develop. Murphy was plugging holes in the end; he is copping a real beating of late, but is making repeat efforts where few of his team mates, while making an effort, simply dont know what to do.
The terrible coaching combined with the lack of direction on the field is showing why we are hardly competitive. We dont set up well, and we have holes in our defence due to a lack of movement and understanding by the players where they should go. We dont play a spare man back much, and if we do they dont maintain the right position relative to their team mates. Henderson was briefly back and took a couple of marks in the second quarter, but then was moved about again, with docherty spending time further up the ground. Its all a bit futile really.
Better players were murphy, cripps, everitt ( only because of 3 goals) and curnow had a crack. But let's move past applauding effort, for it is our poor skills and disorder that is the big difference.
Couple of things that annoyed were the poor minding of the mark. Get on the mark and get your arms up and move. Every little bit counts at this level and many of our players dont. Second was the almost zen like Barker at 1.20 to go in the first quarter, sitting in the coaches box. Get down on the ground early to round up the team once the siren blows. It was a wierd sight. A bit more enthusiasm may be warrented from a bloke that may want a senior job. Not that it matters much, and they played better in the second quarter but it didn't seem right.
And good god the channel 7 saturday night commentators are dills.
Cookie...We might have trouble fielding a team with that criteria :D
Yeah I know! We are in a very dark place atm. :(
10 odd goals against a middling side says it all, and little can be said that has not been said before.
It was encouraging to see Boekhorst play well in the first half. He has some skill and with good coaching will have a chance to develop. Murphy was plugging holes in the end; he is copping a real beating of late, but is making repeat efforts where few of his team mates, while making an effort, simply dont know what to do.
The terrible coaching combined with the lack of direction on the field is showing why we are hardly competitive. We dont set up well, and we have holes in our defence due to a lack of movement and understanding by the players where they should go. We dont play a spare man back much, and if we do they dont maintain the right position relative to their team mates. Henderson was briefly back and took a couple of marks in the second quarter, but then was moved about again, with docherty spending time further up the ground. Its all a bit futile really.
Better players were murphy, cripps, everitt ( only because of 3 goals) and curnow had a crack. But let's move past applauding effort, for it is our poor skills and disorder that is the big difference.
Couple of things that annoyed were the poor minding of the mark. Get on the mark and get your arms up and move. Every little bit counts at this level and many of our players dont. Second was the almost zen like Barker at 1.20 to go in the first quarter, sitting in the coaches box. Get down on the ground early to round up the team once the siren blows. It was a wierd sight. A bit more enthusiasm may be warrented from a bloke that may want a senior job. Not that it matters much, and they played better in the second quarter but it didn't seem right.
And good god the channel 7 saturday night commentators are dills.
They have been dills all year ;D
I expected around a 10 goal loss and the end result was close to that. All I can say at the moment is;
Richmond upset Hawthorn last night.
Melbourne upset Collingwood today.
Carlton upset their supporters everyday.
Another poor performance but we'll need to get used to it, North only just went but still beat us by 10 goals.
Murphy, Cripps, Docherty and Kreuzer earned their money, a few others went OK but there were plenty of players wearing navy blue tonight who just aren't good enough.
It's a dispirited side who expect to lose, even when we were matching North before half time there was no fire in the belly, the second half was a foregone conclusion.
I feel for blokes like Buckley, Smith and Menzel, young blokes starting out with no one to show them the way, at a stronger club they'd be doing much better.
Boekhorst showed that there's something to work with. One of the few positives.
When Cripps plays well we look very good. Too much rests on his shoulders already. Though I do think he's up to it. Needs to fix the set shots. 2.8 this year.
Henderson one of the biggest disappointments of the last 5 years. He's repaid very little of the faith the club has shown in him.
Yarran not too far behind, looks disinterested, a liability when the ball is in the air.
Boekhorst showed that there's something to work with. One of the few positives.
When Cripps plays well we look very good. Too much rests on hi shoulders already. Though I do think he's up to it. Needs to fix the set shots. 2.8 this year.
Henderson one of the biggest disappointments of the last 5 years. He's repaid very little of the faith the club has shown in him.
Yarran not too far behind, looks disinterested, a liability when the ball is in the air.
You wont have to worry about them soon.
Both GAWN!!!!!!!!
Feck me that 2nd half was an utter trainwreck.......it's getting harder & harder attending I tells ya, at halftime I thought I'd made the best decision ever by attending - chuckling at all those who hadn't bothered......and then THAT damn 2nd half.....*sigh*.
The fact that Barker continues to play Yarran in defence, as Yarran continues to give up cheap shots on goal, tells me Barker isn't the man for this caper. Yes, I'll accept that there's a lot of what goes on out there which is not a directive of Barker, but feck me, surely there's some basic footy 101 stuff that can be reinforced. I'm sick of seeing opposition players marking the ball at around the 50m mark, then casually being able to find a teammate, uncontested, about 20m closer......I mean FFS, really??? He shouldn't even need to be coaching that, but seeing as it's clear he needs to - FFS do it!!!
I love Patty Cripps, I really do, but by christ he cannot kick to save himself - he seriously can't, to the point that it's not just a liability to himself & the team, but it's what's gonna hold him back from ever being elite.....having said that, Jobe Watson was very ordinary by foot when he started & he managed to turn it around, so I'm hopeful Patty can do the same. Cripps could easily have about 15-20 goals to his name this year if he could kick.....it's a real shame at the moment.
For mine, Barker's been part of an unsuccessful & rabble of a Club for too long.......yes, he appears to be a nice bloke & says all the right things, but at the end of the day, surely what we need is someone from a highly successful culture, someone who's seen & been part of a football system which has reached the pinnacle of the sport. I for one, will be extremely disappointed if Barker gets the job permanently. Yes, he has a largely crap list to work with, but geez, there's not even a semblance of pride in these blokes....we're right back to where we found ourselves the week Mick was sacked.
Yes barker is part of the problem. ....all coaching staff must be cleared out including reserves.coaches...
You wont have to worry about them soon.
Both GAWN!!!!!!!!
Maybe we can do a Western Bulldogs and play finals next year??
Result didn't matter.
Club looking at the bigger picture, so losses to Top 8 teams are virtually a given.
Not going to lose it over the stuff that we know we need to improve on (talent, skill level etc). That ll come in time.
Yazz and to a lesser extent Hendo, both look disinterested. That's cool, if they don't want to be part of the future, then they re making SOS's job a little easier. A first round pick for each thanks lol.
Murph and Kreuz tried their guts out again.
Cripps had a killer game, besides the goal kicking, which I'm sure he ll work on and improve on, just like he did with his fitness last pre season. Should win the Rising Star
Loved how Bucks was taking the game on right until the very end. Big tick for not taking sh*t from that diving flog Lindsay Thomas.
BB showed plenty early, but faded in the 2nd half
Loved the energy Clem broughtt to the game when he came on. A summer in the gym to turn his chub into muscle, and also to improve his tank, and he ll be a little ripper I reckon.
Maybe we can do a Western Bulldogs and play finals next year??
Don't laugh.
I think the AFL has accidentally figured out how to equalize the comp.
18 teams means all teams are thin on talent so a few good selections and trades, combined with good coaching, can boost you 10 places up the ladder in a blink .
Yes, the Hawks have a lot more, but that Norf side tonight was screwing BOG average and they think they should be a top 4 side?????????!!!!!!!!!!
Don't laugh.
I think the AFL has accidentally figured out how to equalize the comp.
18 teams means all teams are thin on talent so a few good selections and trades, combined with good coaching, can boost you 10 places up the ladder in a blink .
Yes, the Hawks have a lot more, but that Norf side tonight was screwing BOG average and they think they should be a top 4 side?????????!!!!!!!!!!
Agreed.
Norf aren't anything special.
With a small defence of thouy yarran buckley simpson docherty.....norths talls like any other tall forward line will kill carlton....
We need 25 new players imo
Loved the energy Clem brought to the game when he came on. A summer in the gym to turn his chub into muscle, and also to improve his tank, and he ll be a little ripper I reckon.
Agree with this - thought he was stiff to be dropped when he was after the Brisbane (or was it the GWS?) game too. Showed tonight that he's got plenty of tricks & genuine speed.....hopefully we've found our replacement for Eddie/Jeffy in the not-too-distant future.
Interesting press conference from Barker. High degree of frustration in his voice that there are players on the field who are not committed and don't want to be there. Problem is, they can't be left out because our stocks are so low.
Was very positive about Murphy, Krueser, Cripps, White but said too much left to too few.
Yarran has to be in the 'not interested' category along with Henderson. They are the obvious ones. However you get the sense from what he's saying, that there are a few others who were on the field tonight as well.
It makes me sick that as a club we allow players who aren't "interested" to even take to the field. They're getting paid thousands of dollars to be "interested".
Another thing that was noticeable was the size difference in our bodies compared to North. Firrito, Swallow, Ziebell, Petrie etc. are all huge and used their bodies to block our runs and win one on one contests by just standing there. Even Waite is bigger than he was at Carlton.
We need some serious leadership at our club from the board down.
I think Yazz, Hendo, Bell, Tutt and to a lesser degree Carrots, Menzel, Simmo, Rowe, Everitt, Jamo, Touhy really let down our football club. Murphy, Kruezer, Wood, Cripps, Casboult, Boekhorst, Docherty, Smith, Curnow, Buckley and White get a pass mark...just.
My 2 cents.
Cripps, Murph Simmo and Doc the best out of an ordinary lot.
Rowe and Jamo. One is near the end, the other had his 15 minutes of decent footy last season, and has spent this season being beaten week after week after week. I like Rowe, but he just isn't good enough or consistent enough.
White - one of our many hot and cold players. Last night average.
Bell - as others have said, who knew he was even there.
Mr. Germaphobe Everitt - did a couple of nice things, but seems typical of the players we like to recruit. Soft, and flashes in and out of the game.
The 3 big boys - Krooz, Cas and Wood. All tried their best. Not one of Wood's better games, but was handy. I like that Cas tried to introduce some physicality into his game. As with all our players, needs to do it better.
2e- meh.
Bucks - has a real crack, and despite certain limitations, definitely a keeper and definitely something to work with.
Tutt- the only player in AFL/VFL history to give 110%, and yet have zero impact on a game.
Yazz - boy oh boy.
Hendo - thought he was ok tbh.
Boeky - ok.
Curnow - tried hard as per usual.
Menzel - more effort from him tonight was good to see.
Carrots - has been a tremendous club man, and has gotten the best out an ordinary skill set, but an umpiring career awaits. Could become the inside man we've been waiting for, so that we get the rub of the green a little more often.
Sigh............
@Paul
A pretty fair summary of our plight mate.
2E was good again.
Somebody said he lined up at the centre bounce a couple of times but I must have missed it.
Can anyone confirm?
With a small defence of thouy yarran buckley simpson docherty.....norths talls like any other tall forward line will kill carlton....
We need 25 new players imo
The backline has to be one of biggest weaknesses at the moment, and the smaller players mentioned here are at the heart of it. The problem is that not one of these guys is best suited to being in the backline. Yarran should be playing forward where his speed is a weapon and he is less of a liability. Simpson is an aging champion that belongs more on the wing so that he doesn't have to stand in front of guys like Petrie (and with any luck we can get another season or 2 out of him). Buckley should join him on the other wing and Docherty seems better suited as a mid. I've never been sure what to do with Tuohy, a great kick but doesn't apply enough pressure or read the play well enough to be down back.
Looking at the tall defenders, I do think Jamison and Rowe are made to look worse because of the ample supply of good delivery from the opposition mids that aren't under enough pressure.
Barker seems to have caught malthouse syndrome and refuses to try anything different like Henderson down back or Yarran up forward.
In a way I feel a bit sorry for JB in that he was pretty much given little choice in taking over as stand in coach. He couldn't have refused as that would have probably excluded him from a senior gig for a long time. However, by taking over he has exposed himself to weeks of humiliation. Catch 22.
The solution will involve either a clean sweep of the coaching dept or large scale surgery to the playing list. All the commentary I'm reading atm is pointing the bone at the big holes in our list but I'm now pretty much certain that JB won't get the nod unless no one else wants it.
The solution will involve either a clean sweep of the coaching dept or large scale surgery to the playing list.
Or both.
The only problem with large scale surgery to the list is that it's impossible to pick up more than two or three good footballers in any one off season, and in Carlton's case we've repeatedly struggled to do even that.
It will take four or five years to become competitive with the best sides, and that assumes we make all the right decisions in the meanwhile.
I thought BB was a positive from the game, shrugged off the Kane Lucas double tag. Real potential there.
What an indictment on certain blokes that even the coach sees fit to mention that we've got players that are just going through the motions. Pity we've got so many injured players.
JB sounded really dispirited, understandably.
Agree that we probably do need fresh faces in all the coaching positions. At this stage Bolton would be my choice, he's coached his own sides to success and has a history of strong achievement.
our players are just weak 1 body size 2stength 3 fitness.The scary part is I have been saying this for many years and nothing changed and our game plan is like under 10s.Lucky watching the game in a bar in Phuket went back to the pool at the last quarter.
Or both.
The only problem with large scale surgery to the list is that it's impossible to pick up more than two or three good footballers in any one off season, and in Carlton's case we've repeatedly struggled to do even that.
It will take four or five years to become competitive with the best sides, and that assumes we make all the right decisions in the meanwhile.
Agree, I think it will be a combination of both B4L. The journey with the list will be a long one for sure and will certainly test the club's patience!
Agree, I think it will be a combination of both B4L. The journey with the list will be a long one for sure and will certainly test the club's patience!
It will test the supporters' patience even more.
It's been the best part of 15 years now, most of us thought that after we recruited Murphy, Gibbs, Kreuzer and Judd our worst days were behind us yet here we are 6 or 7 years later at rock bottom and without a coach.
I really fear for our future for the first time in 50 years of being a member of the club, I just can't see how we can maintain decent membership and sponsorship levels to ride out another 5 years, many of our young supporters have never known a strong Carlton team.
These are very dark days.
It will test the supporters' patience even more.
It's been the best part of 15 years now, most of us thought that after we recruited Murphy, Gibbs, Kreuzer and Judd our worst days were behind us yet here we are 6 or 7 years later at rock bottom and without a coach.
I really fear for our future for the first time in 50 years of being a member of the club, I just can't see how we can maintain decent membership and sponsorship levels to ride out another 5 years, many of our young supporters have never known a strong Carlton team.
These are very dark days.
thats the point- club sold a lie with all the no 1 drafts picks a flag was coming ...lazy. poor recruiting, no development, average culture...
as sticks said..."lets all have a drink" C:-)
That's why the club just has to get the supporters on board with the real truth - it has to be realistic in what promises it makes and what dreams it tries to sell. It's a journey and we must all come to terms with that before we get too preoccupied with the destination and start looking for risky short cuts.
It's a journey and we must all come to terms with that before we get too preoccupied with the destination and start looking for risky short cuts.
Like sacking coaches?
I agree entirely with your sentiments by the way, but it's only a few years since Sticks was telling there would be two more Premiership Cups in the trophy cabinet by 2016, so I'm not certain that the club hierarchy fully appreciates our plight or what steps we need to take to address it.
One thing I would suggest to them is to go over the draft with a fine tooth comb and put a line through anyone with suspect foot skills.
This was a "why" game for me.
Why do we play players who are disinterested?
Why aren't our second and third efforts (apart from Kreuzer and Buckley and one or 2 others) any better than my son's under 11 team?
Why have we recruited so many players who can't kick when the name of the game is football?
Why wasn't Harvey's attempted soccer goal which went out of bounds called 'deliberate'?
Why doesn't JB play Hendo down back permanently?
Why are there 2 opposition players to our 1 at so many contests - I mean, WHERE THE HELL IS OUR MISSING PLAYER?
Why doesn't the AFL intervene to stop umpires losing concentration in 'dead' and low key matches?
Why do so many of our support staff look like they're as bewildered as the players?
I thought BB was a positive from the game, shrugged off the Kane Lucas double tag. Real potential there.
What an indictment on certain blokes that even the coach sees fit to mention that we've got players that are just going through the motions. Pity we've got so many injured players.
JB sounded really dispirited, understandably.
Agree that we probably do need fresh faces in all the coaching positions. At this stage Bolton would be my choice, he's coached his own sides to success and has a history of strong achievement.
With our culture club should never says wins aren't important. Gives our blokes a reason not to work hard, which they happily take.
Imagine being Kruezer and Murphy walking off the ground and looking around the rooms at guys who couldn't give a flying....... If the coach can sense it, the players certainly would. I dare say Hodge and Lewis would take them behind the shelter shed and explain what commitment is all about, even if you are leaving in 5 weeks.
Time to sweep.
I was just looking though the list , I think there will be many changes through retirements the delistings & the trades already being linked, so can see approx 10 -12 places happening. It's just the quality that we bring that has to change . Imagine if we could add Whiley Jones Johnson to that list , we could do
I'm watching Essendon vs footscray in the VFL right now and Jordan Russell could really help us right now.
This game was another good step in the right direction. A direction which shows quite clearly that what is an issue at our club is not the bloke who sits in the senior coaches chair. Flavour of the month John Barker has shown us what will happen next year without some serious intervention.
I don't buy all this current 'injury' bollocks that has been going on.
Kreuzer is playing better than any ruckman before him.
Warnock is not missed.
Judd obviously is, but he wasn't coming back next year anyway, so it doesn't matter one way or another.
Daisy+Walker are both done for the year, both had been injured and borderline best 22 before that.
We've lost 2 irish players who are as green as green can be. Would their inclusion make us a much better side?
Gibbs is probably the only player we are missing that is clearly hurting us....but then again, he's been missing for large parts of the year as well.
So why exactly are our 'injuries' such an issue? Spin coming from the club to excuse our tanking efforts IMHO.
North are not a great side.
We are a terrible side.
In regards to an earlier post...
Carrazzo has agreed to umpire for a year in a 'lower league' before being elevated to a higher league (VFL or AFL?) with all things going well. In short, this is his last year with us.
Getting angry at these losses is pointless.
Its like a person buying a house knowing that its 'a renovators dream', and then constantly flipping out at the dilapidated state of the place.
We know where we are as a Club. its been reiterated to us a million times.
These losses are commonplace during periods like this.
Just look at teams like North, Richmond, the Dogs, and St Kilda at various stages over the last 5 years.
I don't care about lazy and disinterested players like Yazz and Hendo, and plodders like Curnow, Rowe, White etc. They ll be flushed out of the Club over the next few years.
For me, knowing where we are at, I'm just enjoying watching the little glimpses into the future of Carlton. Senior boys like Murph, Simmo and Kreuz continually busting a gut, youngsters like Cripps, Doc, Buckley, and Nick G strutting their stuff, and the cameos by BB and Clemmy, are all heartening
WE ll be back. We just need to be patient. I know people will say 'we've been patient for 15 years, but look at the signs and messages coming out of the Club. It IS different this time round.
As a Club, we are much better resourced, and Trigg, MLG, SOS and
Macca are all on the same page, and are sticking to a rebuild plan. A plan that they presented to the AFL during the week, and the AFL was satisfied with.
That is itself is certainly different then when we were down here last in the mid 00s. We are not the moneyless, planless, rudderless ship we were when we last attempted a halkf arsed rebuild under Collo/Smorgon and Den Den.
A couple of thoughts from last night, we actually are missing Nick Graham out there he adds something for sure. If you had said Casboult would score 21.9 at this point in the year you would have taken that in a heart beat. Steadily keeps improving.
Cripps has major issues with his goalkicking which I started to notice a while ago. He cant get any penetration in his kicks so if he is to make use of his size when pushing forward he needs to fix that because a couple of those misses last were horrendous.
A couple of thoughts from last night, we actually are missing Nick Graham out there he adds something for sure. If you had said Casboult would score 21.9 at this point in the year you would have taken that in a heart beat. Steadily keeps improving.
Cripps has major issues with his goalkicking which I started to notice a while ago. He cant get any penetration in his kicks so if he is to make use of his size when pushing forward he needs to fix that because a couple of those misses last were horrendous.
Cripps isnt a great field kick either...gives them a bit too much air because he leans back on them.....another student for Sav.....
Cripps isnt a great field kick either...gives them a bit too much air because he leans back on them.....another student for Sav.....
Absolutely. get him to kick goals with Rocca until he starts hitting them! He misses too many.
Just listened to Barker's Press conference.
Unfortunately some of the questions were inaudible but the message is pretty clear
"The Carlton Football Club needs to grow a playing group that wants to play for the Carlton Football Club."
Perhaps he's not telling us anything we don't know..and some areas he could have expanded on but perhaps thought better.
In a nut shell this playing list is divided between people who are giving an effort for this club and players that have already moved on...and demonstrate that by the way they play.
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2015-08-02/barker-laments-lack-of-grit
Barker lauded the performances of Blues skipper Marc Murphy (26 possessions and five clearances), ruckman Matthew Kreuzer, who battled valiantly against star Roos ruckman Todd Goldstein, defender Simon White and midfielder Patrick Cripps (21 and seven).
"We have some players who are digging in, rolling their sleeves up and our captain's leading from the front, but we can't do it with a handful," Barker said.
"There's a handful of players who are now just not displaying that sort of grit.
"One going through the motions is too many, but at the moment I think maybe we have ourselves a handful, which is disappointing.
"It would be nice to turn them over, but we're starting to lose some of our levers at match committee because of 14-15 who are unavailable.
"We're running out of soldiers."
I don't care if our VFL side were thrashed this afternoon, there are players, and Barker and the coaching group know who they are, who should be replaced immediately...and never wear the jumper again.
Yazz and to a lesser extent Hendo, both look disinterested. That's cool, if they don't want to be part of the future, then they re making SOS's job a little easier. A first round pick for each thanks lol.
If they keep showing what they have been showing, we will be lucky to get 1st round picks.
Hendo needs to play CHB to boost his trade value.
Not sure Yarran is capable of boosting his trade value.
Loved the energy Clem brought to the game when he came on. A summer in the gym to turn his chub into muscle, and also to improve his tank, and he ll be a little ripper I reckon.
Easy to show energy and pace against players who have played more than half a game - especially when most of his teammates are running up and down in place.
I do think he has the skills to become a player but he is a long way short of it ATM. Probably stands out at training by comparison to his many less-skilled, slower, lazy mates.
Interesting watching Ch Bummer on Sat (I know, oxy moron), but shots in the dressing room post game showed Gibbs talking to the boys. I did not see any sign of Daisy though. Made me wonder if he turns up to games or NB games?
Absolutely. get him to kick goals with Rocca until he starts hitting them! He misses too many.
Get Levi to teach goalkicking with him over summer..lol.
With that example in isolation, very hard to say cookie. Probably wise not to read too much into it.
With that example in isolation, very hard to say cookie. Probably wise not to read too much into it.
Yep, I guess so. Just a random thought I had at the end of a very disappointing night.