It's close lets cut the NAB Cup sh1te and get it started.
I think we are going to see the media reporting a lot of "Nobody saw this coming" type stories after we smash 9thmond destroying their 2016 hopes.
I've seen enough from our midfield types during the NAB Cup that if we field a full strength line up we have them comfortably covered. Our only major concern is ball use, but their's is not that much better.
Let's see how we go after Friday's crape. :D
Hopefully we'll see more of our senior players out for a run.
It's close lets cut the NAB Cup sh1te and get it started.
I think we are going to see the media reporting a lot of "Nobody saw this coming" type stories after we smash 9thmond destroying their 2016 hopes.
I've seen enough from our midfield types during the NAB Cup that if we field a full strength line up we have them comfortably covered. Our only major concern is ball use, but their's is not that much better.
Agree re the ball use. Also a little worried about the skipper being underdone. I hear whispers that he might not play rnd 1 if he doesn't play this week.
B: Tuohy, Jamison, Weitering
Hb: Docherty, Rowe, Simpson
C: Thomas, Cripps, Gibbs
Hf: Lamb, Everitt, Wright
F: Buckley, Casboult, Walker
Foll: Kreuzer, Kerridge
Rov: Murphy
I/c: Boekhorst, E.Curnow, Graham, Phillips
**I had Andrew Gallucci in there. Reckon he should play but I am not sure he can be upgraded. If he can, I would play him.
I reckon the Tiges would look at that team Pratty named and say, hmmmm, not so easy after all.
Nice that all the expectation is on them.
Shut down Riewoldt and Martin (Cotchin meh) and they're cooked.
B: Tuohy, Jamison, Weitering
Hb: Docherty, Rowe, Simpson
C: Thomas, Cripps, Gibbs
Hf: Lamb, Everitt, Wright
F: Buckley, Casboult, Walker
Foll: Kreuzer, Kerridge
Rov: Murphy
I/c: Boekhorst, E.Curnow, Graham, Phillips
**I had Andrew Gallucci in there. Reckon he should play but I am not sure he can be upgraded. If he can, I would play him.
I like aspects of this team Pratty but I am not sure you can have Kreuzer, Casboult, Rowe, Everitt and Philips in the one line up. Although with the reduced rotations extra height will have an impact late in games, you must be able to remain in the contest to take advantage of that. Would the side you've picked keep up early in the game though?
B: Tuohy, Jamison, Weitering
Hb: Docherty, Rowe, Simpson
C: Thomas, Cripps, Gibbs
Hf: Lamb, Everitt, Wright
F: Buckley, Casboult, Walker
Foll: Kreuzer, Kerridge
Rov: Murphy
I/c: Boekhorst, E.Curnow, Graham, Phillips
**I had Andrew Gallucci in there. Reckon he should play but I am not sure he can be upgraded. If he can, I would play him.
I like that alot Pratty, you're hired. And its good someone else also thinks that Bux should play in a FP.
I'm not confident... Rowe and Jammo will have to play blinders to stop them kicking a winning score.
I cant see us kicking more than 8 -10 goals..
Tigers by 5 goals.
Would love to be wrong.
I'm not confident... Rowe and Jammo will have to play blinders to stop them kicking a winning score.
I cant see us kicking more than 8 -10 goals..
Tigers by 5 goals.
Would love to be wrong.
Could be a baptism of fire for Weitering?
Could be a baptism of fire for Weitering?
U wouldn't want to put him on Reiwoldt or Vickory in his 1st game... ?
Could be a baptism of fire for Weitering?
Why not.
I have no idea what our team is going to like which is a good thing because neither will Richmond.
U wouldn't want to put him on Reiwoldt or Vickory in his 1st game... ?
Tigers will play the three talls up front IMO especially if the weather is good......Riewoldt, Vickery and Griffiths.......the latter has been concussed in one NAB game from memory.
Jamison, Rowe and Weitering should be our talls down back...., I reckon Weitering would get Griffiths who while bigger is less of a threat IMO and our young bloke might be able to
run off him and get some easy footy..
Martin and Deledio are also capable targets....hope we win the clearances and its doesnt get down their end too often...
U wouldn't want to put him on Reiwoldt or Vickory in his 1st game... ?
He's up for it.
We won't come close to winning a game 'til round 6....... :(
Jack aside, their goal scoring ability is as bad as ours:
Rank Name Games Total
1 Jack Riewoldt 23 54
2 Tyrone Vickery 15 31
3 Brett Deledio 18 27
4 Dustin Martin 23 24
5 Shaun Grigg 23 16
6 Sam Lloyd 12 13
6 Shane Edwards 16 13
8 Trent Cotchin 22 12
8 Benjamin Griffiths 13 12
8 Chris Newman 17 12
11 Ivan Maric 22 11
12 Kane Lambert 13 8
I've heard a whisper that despite being named for tonight Vickery is likely to be out for weeks or months.
There are allegedly very real concerns about his fragility and the long term effects from his recent "event." According to my source they have been warned that they could be exposed to "significantly liability" if they play him again too soon and he has another "incident!"
He has been referred to by some sources as potentially the next Koschitske!
LP with all due respect, you seem to hear a lot of whispers.
I have no idea what our team is going to like which is a good thing because neither will Richmond.
That is a real positive for us. I hope we can make good advantage of it.
I've heard a whisper that despite being named for tonight Vickery is likely to be out for weeks or months.
There are allegedly very real concerns about his fragility and the long term effects from his recent "event." According to my source they have been warned that they could be exposed to "significantly liability" if they play him again too soon and he has another "incident!"
He has been referred to by some sources as potentially the next Koschitske!
I hope they play him. If he is underdone, that is good for us.
I hope he is not too bad; I may not like some teams and some players, but I don't wish them to have brain damage. (Sorry, Essendon, it is too late for you. :) )
I hope they play him. If he is underdone, that is good for us.
I hope he is not too bad; I may not like some teams and some players, but I don't wish them to have brain damage. (Sorry, Essendon, it is too late for you. :) )
I must admit the sight of Vickery collapsing the way he did was quite disturbing, even though he has been responsible for a few dog acts in his time. I just hope that he will be thoroughly tested and cleared before he is risked again.
I hope they play Yarran as well. The more suspect players on the field, the better.
We've seen over the years what keeps him quiet: we had better be good at it.
To be serious, I really want to beat them when they are at their best, not their worst. We have been pilloried for some time now about our list, especially with the relative non-performance from highly ranked, highly paid players. To see us come to play would be very good in silencing some of these dimwits, at least in the short term. Especially these Richmond people who seem to really believe they are premiership material.
I hope they play Yarran as well. The more suspect players on the field, the better.
We've seen over the years what keeps him quiet: we had better be good at it.
To be serious, I really want to beat them when they are at their best, not their worst. We have been pilloried for some time now about our list, especially with the relative non-performance from highly ranked, highly paid players. To see us come to play would be very good in silencing some of these dimwits, at least in the short term. Especially these Richmond people who seem to really believe they are premiership material.
If he plays who gets Yarran, someone with some real niggle who will make him work both ways? Buckley, Armfield or Docherty would be my choices.
I hope they play Yarran as well. The more suspect players on the field, the better.
We've seen over the years what keeps him quiet: we had better be good at it.
To be serious, I really want to beat them when they are at their best, not their worst. We have been pilloried for some time now about our list, especially with the relative non-performance from highly ranked, highly paid players. To see us come to play would be very good in silencing some of these dimwits, at least in the short term. Especially these Richmond people who seem to really believe they are premiership material.
An 8 point, come from behind, win would hit the spot!
Richmond list very overrated imo.
After Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Rance lot of so so stuff. imo.
As well as defending against Yarran's pace in attack we need someone who can attack with pace and aggression. We know Yarran hates running back to defend so that's our opportunity. Buckley or Armfield (if he plays) may be good choices.
Yarran no certainty yet to play though.
Somebody who can mark as Yarran's idea of spoiling is standing there and watching the mark get taken
LP with all due respect, you seem to hear a lot of whispers.
Yes, don't we all? :D
But not really, I spent nearly a decade working for a media company so I have "a few" contacts. I hear a lot more rumors that are not worth repeating, but the Vickery one seems to have some relative merit.
Spending time listening is usually the trick to hearing stuff! ;)
An 8 point, come from behind, win would hit the spot!
Richmond list very overrated imo.
After Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Rance lot of so so stuff. imo.
Deledio not bad for a "so so stuff" :))
An 8 point, come from behind, win would hit the spot!
Richmond list very overrated imo.
After Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt, Rance lot of so so stuff. imo.
Hmmmm, their best players play in the most important positions on the ground. That's why they are so strong.
Other than sideshow bob at CHF.
Looks like Edwards has copped a serious injury in tonight's game?
And Grigg off with injury too.
From the stats Hampson appears to be doing well in the ruck.
I hate to say it, but he was one of the main reasons why they beat us last time. He dominated the ruck against Kreuzer and did some useful stuff around the ground.
That we do NOT want in 2 weeks.
A few injuries for the Tiggers tonight, Grigg (hand), Edwards (Broken Collarbone) and a few others, they ended up with only 15 on the ground.
Conca went down injured too.
I feel for the boys getting hurt as no one wants that, but I can't help but think that the wheels have already fallen off at tigerland this season.
Dustin Martin may be a little pre-occupied:
The father of Richmond star Dustin Martin reportedly faces deportation over his alleged links to outlaw motorcycle gang, the Rebels.
Shane Martin was in Sydney when he was locked up on Thursday morning, according to News Ltd reports.
It has been reported that his residency visa was cancelled because officials decided he did not meet minimum character requirements.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-news-tiger-dustin-martins-father-faces-deportation-20160310-gng0mj.html#ixzz42V7qVsMd
I didn't watch the game but what was Dimma thinking to play out the game with only 15 blokes on the field? I'm expecting a highly critical article from Caro tomorrow; clearly the Tiges aren't concerned about their supporters or the welfare of the blokes who played out the game.
They're allowed to pick 18 from 26 players for the NAB cUP right?
Hardwick appears to have pulled a sooky sooky la la!
more chance now that an under done Yazz will front us Thursday week?
They're allowed to pick 18 from 26 players for the NAB cUP right?
Hardwick appears to have pulled a sooky sooky la la!
Did the media cut Brett Ratten any slack over injuries?
Hardwick might be lucky if he's already signed that contract, because 2016 might be fubar for them! :D
If we win next Thursday Eddie Everywhere will get his wish to build a new ground, because the ferals will tear down the stadium! :o
PS: If we win stay well away from the 9thmond players race, unless you want a gob shower!
Not only did Hardwick pull his better players from the field so they wouldn't get injured, Richmond officials tried to get the game stopped before time :o
That's a considered approach to injury prevention! Perhaps Dimma needs to rub his rabbit's foot just a tad harder :P
Grigg out for 6 weeks
Conca out for 8 weeks
Conca went down injured too.
He Concked out?
;D
Observations so far from the NAB cup games is that our forward line creates no pressure and the opposing teams take too many easy marks and run the ball out too easy.
We dont have the big name forwards so we need to create pressure and force errors....I can see Rance having a picnic and being BOG given how many times we kick the ball wildly down forward.....I reckon Rance needs a stopper just to nullify the Tigers rebound and to create some ball on the ground for our clever smalls ...if Rance plays on the Boult, Gorringe, Philips etc he will carve us up with his rebound...
Observations so far from the NAB cup games is that our forward line creates no pressure and the opposing teams take too many easy marks and run the ball out too easy.
We dont have the big name forwards so we need to create pressure and force errors....I can see Rance having a picnic and being BOG given how many times we kick the ball wildly down forward.....I reckon Rance needs a stopper just to nullify the Tigers rebound and to create some ball on the ground for our clever smalls ...if Rance plays on the Boult, Gorringe, Philips etc he will carve us up with his rebound...
Smile EB1 - we'll beat the Tigers by a few goals....
Will be a great midfield battle.
Grigg and Conca gone.
If I were a Blues player, Id be aiming straight for Edwards' injured shoulder. He's only 1 big hit away from see ya later.
Will be a great midfield battle.
Grigg and Conca gone.
If I were a Blues player, Id be aiming straight for Edwards' injured shoulder. He's only 1 big hit away from see ya later.
we'll smash them in the guts.....whether we win depends on whether we kick straight imo.
I used to do a blind tipping comp, where the season was tipped before round 1. Always got a better result than a traditional tipping comp. Head over heart and could set ground rules and follow them.
I see this game as a head and heart matter. Love to win it, but surely the expectation of doing so is very low. We have to have improved on last season and Richmond got worse. This may have happened, but not by enough.
I don't see how we can kick enough goals or defend or goals well enough, unfortunately.
I reckon we'll beat Richmond simply because we are not supposed to.
What do we think of bringing Rowe to CHF , he is not setting the world on fire at CHB , that way we don't have Levi as the key forward allows him to be the forward / ruck role that is much more suited to him instead of the key forward where he is just lost? Rowe has played there before , and can kick a goal. Even though it's NAB cup Weiterling has show he has the application to play CHB even swing Philips or White through there as well. It would restructure a forward line a little which has no direction at all at the moment?
What do we think of bring Rowe to CHF , he is not setting the world on fire at CHB , that way we don't have Levi as the key forward allows him to be the forward / ruck role that is much more suited to him instead of the key forward where he is just lost? Rowe has played there before , and can kick a goal. Even though it's NAB cup Weiterling has show he has the application to play CHB even swing Philips or White through there as well. It would restructure a forward line a little which has no direction at all at the moment?
It's not bad, but Rowe is the same as our other tall forwards at the moment. Not that fast or agile, can't apply pressure once the ball hits the deck.
The others are the same.
We have to hope Liam Jones comes good because he is the only one with the right physical attributes to be a modern key forward we have.
Everett and walker are the other talls we should run with and the rest should be resting ruckmen.
We have too many ruck sized players and it hurts us.
Well with Rowe at CHF this gives all those that want to try Jones at CHB the opportunity, at least Rowe has kicked goals before there, not the long term answer but we are playing this year by year. The main thing was also to release Levi from that key posy , he is much more damaging in a roaming role, at the moment he is playing like a man with to much pressure on him and is playing like he is constrained in a role, not using natural aggression and thinking to much
Foster can't be any worse than Jones et al, I'd play him from the square, a role he did with aplomb as a junior.... The others are "manufactured" forwards.
It's another idea Prof E , How has Foster been , haven't sighted him at all?
I reckon we'll beat Richmond simply because we are not supposed to.
Flag drought is over!! ;D
When is the VFL practice game?
Foster / Jaksch good performance would be handy.
Tiges will be under the pump to win and win well. A loss would be unthinkable. Given where the 2 teams are at, they should do it fairly easily iMO.
Tiges will be under the pump to win and win well. A loss would be unthinkable. Given where the 2 teams are at, they should do it fairly easily iMO.
Agree. We seem to be going well enough to get to within "honourable loss" territory. A win seems highly unlikely.
Cripps could have 50 possessions and kick 8 himself though.
Tiges will be under the pump to win and win well. A loss would be unthinkable. Given where the 2 teams are at, they should do it fairly easily iMO.
Yet out midfield will thrash theirs, especially if they've got a few injured.....
Blues by 22.
Yet out midfield will thrash theirs, especially if they've got a few injured.....
Blues by 22.
if the Tiges lose, the jungle drums will start beating, Dimmer will be half way out the door, and the team's finals credentials will be dealt a hefty blow. They would also be aware that we've owned them a fair bit recently........
There's too much riding on this for them to lose.
I'm all for supporting my team, but...........
After watching last night's game and taking Richmond's injuries into account, I reckon we could go close to an upset.
Our defence is more than capable of limiting Richmond's forwards. Our midfield should be significantly stronger than Richmond's. The only problem is that we don't have the forwards to kick a winning score :(
Hopefully someone in the NBs will put their hand up.
how can our fwds kick a score where.1 we just bomb it long to front of square 2 no one leads towards the person kicking the footy. 3 why is our fwd line always croweded wheres the space?
Byrne in VFL this morning-
https://amp.twimg.com/v/a906c336-7a29-4ad8-a916-dba4e90262d0
Gun.
Byrne in VFL this morning-
https://amp.twimg.com/v/a906c336-7a29-4ad8-a916-dba4e90262d0
Gun.
He has nice explosiveness and a good height to maybe be that player who can finally stop opposition small forwards for us.
He has nice explosiveness and a good height to maybe be that player who can finally stop opposition small forwards for us.
He could be an upgrade on Yarran and allow Simmo to spend more time up the ground.
He has a hardness about him that wouldn't go astray too.
I think we need some players like Plowman and Byrne going past Simmo. His kicking has gone off and not getting any younger. Reliable backup rather than front-liner.
Simpson is still value especially when the chips are down and you want players putting their body on the line....no reason for him to bust his Ar$e in the NAB cup..
Saying that I am all for Byrne and Plowman playing asap but I dont think they will be replacing Simpson unless he is injured....
Byrne in VFL this morning-
https://amp.twimg.com/v/a906c336-7a29-4ad8-a916-dba4e90262d0
Gun.
There are native Aussie AFL footballer who couldn't do that. He has some serious ability.
There are native Aussie AFL footballer who couldn't do that. He has some serious ability.
Also not scared to have a go and back himself. He left quite a few BH players in his wake, and some of ours as well. Has some toe.
Very nice highlight.
Byrne in VFL this morning-
https://amp.twimg.com/v/a906c336-7a29-4ad8-a916-dba4e90262d0
Gun.
A stunning effort! Wow!
DAAAYYYUUUUMMMMM.
Still got some rough edges Byrne but we just have to play him as much as possible.
Still got some rough edges Byrne but we just have to play him as much as possible.
Yes. Maybe not the first month, but definitely after that. I'd love to see Sheehan get a run as well.
Our strength is the mid-field, Cripps, Graham, Kerridge, Murphy, Gibbs & E. Curnow with Kreuzer in the ruck gives us a strong basis to go forward. Richmond is very dependent on its mid-field and when you shut down Cotchin, as was done last year by North in the finals, they tend to struggle.
Our backline is adequate with Docherty, who I think is about to explode into the elite ranks, Touhy, Buckley and Simpson giving us plenty of run. Weitering makes us better but Rowe and Jamieson, while always giving their best will never regularly dominate their opponents. Plowman and Jaksch seem to have the pedigree to be better than Rowe and Jamieson and hopefully by the end of the year they will be the first choice key position defenders.
Our weaknesses last year was our forward line. We actually have a forward line but it is playing for other clubs. Lack of team cohesion, hopefully BB can fix that. A lack of outside run, looking at Boekhorst and some of the others we have recruited, I don't think it will such a problem. Our disposal, which continues to be a problem and it will be a test for BB
Long term I have high hopes for Harry McKay and Silvagni, who looks about a year away, but I think C Curnow is a mid-fielder. We need a rebuild.
Round 1 I think we will be competitive but can we kick enough goals to win. Other than Walker, no one has ever kicked six in a match. We need players who can regularly kick goals.
Our strength is the mid-field, Cripps, Graham, Kerridge, Murphy, Gibbs & E. Curnow with Kreuzer in the ruck gives us a strong basis to go forward. Richmond is very dependent on its mid-field and when you shut down Cotchin, as was done last year by North in the finals, they tend to struggle.
Our backline is adequate with Docherty, who I think is about to explode into the elite ranks, Touhy, Buckley and Simpson giving us plenty of run. Weitering makes us better but Rowe and Jamieson, while always giving their best will never regularly dominate their opponents. Plowman and Jaksch seem to have the pedigree to be better than Rowe and Jamieson and hopefully by the end of the year they will be the first choice key position defenders.
Our weaknesses last year was our forward line. We actually have a forward line but it is playing for other clubs. Lack of team cohesion, hopefully BB can fix that. A lack of outside run, looking at Boekhorst and some of the others we have recruited, I don't think it will such a problem. Our disposal, which continues to be a problem and it will be a test for BB
Long term I have high hopes for Harry McKay and Silvagni, who looks about a year away, but I think C Curnow is a mid-fielder. We need a rebuild.
Round 1 I think we will be competitive but can we kick enough goals to win. Other than Walker, no one has ever kicked six in a match. We need players who can regularly kick goals.
We used to have a $hitload of those.
We used to have a $hitload of those.
Back in the 70's, 80's and 90's ;)
Trying to pick a side for round 1.
Byrne Jammo Touhy
Simmo Weitering Docherty
Boekhorst Cripps E.Curnow
C.Curnow Casboult Kerridge
Walker Rowe Buckley
Kreuzer Murphy Gibbs
Thomas Wright Graham Everitt
Just a bit of a guess.
Back in the 70's, 80's and 90's ;)
We had a few not long ago either. We gave them all away.
Trying to pick a side for round 1.
Byrne Jammo Touhy
Simmo Weitering Docherty
Boekhorst Cripps E.Curnow
C.Curnow Casboult Kerridge
Walker Rowe Buckley
Kreuzer Murphy Gibbs
Thomas Wright Graham Everitt
Just a bit of a guess.
Fair effort that, Rowe is a worry based on NAB form but we have nothing else so....
Murphy will be rusty as feck if he plays, Im still hearing he won't but hope he does.
Fair effort that, Rowe is a worry based on NAB form but we have nothing else so....
Murphy will be rusty as feck if he plays, Im still hearing he won't but hope he does.
Rowe's a big worry but just want another big bloke down there to take the heat off Casboult. He was the best I could find. They can both ruck too so don't need to pick a 2nd ruckman.
Trying to pick a side for round 1.
Byrne Jammo Touhy
Simmo Weitering Docherty
Boekhorst Cripps E.Curnow
C.Curnow Casboult Kerridge
Walker Rowe Buckley
Kreuzer Murphy Gibbs
Thomas Wright Graham Everitt
Just a bit of a guess.
I think that is a pretty good guess laj. Pretty much how I would go also.
I like Rowe forward to start to get them on the back foot but if that doesn't work and if needed down back then make the move. But forward and relief ruck is the only way he stays in the team I think and I prefer him in that role to our other rucks to be honest.
Buckley forward is another one I really like and have been screaming for, has speed, good tackling pressure and a bit of agro which we need in our forward line. He brings x factor which our forward line lacks otherwise.
We had a few not long ago either. We gave them all away.
Really? I count 1
Really? I count 1
You don't remember it was just 5 years ago we had 3 blokes who kicked 50 goals in a season, plus there was Waite as well. They are all gone, bar Walker, and playing good footy at other clubs
Between the one's we lost they near enough kicked more goals between them last year than what we kicked as a collective unit. Forgotten that?
You don't remember it was just 5 years ago we had 3 blokes who kicked 50 goals in a season, plus there was Waite as well. They are all gone, bar Walker, and playing good footy at other clubs
Between the one's we lost they near enough kicked more goals between them last year than what we kicked as a collective unit. Forgotten that?
They left us.
The only one we kicked out was Garlett as it turns out.
Fev left us and Sticks asked him to reconsider.
Betts left us, and went to Adelaide by choice.
Waite left us, and went to North by choice.
Henderson who could kick 20 a year left us by choice.
Bell left us by choice.
All of them wanted out more than we wanted them to leave and none of them will be around when we are playing finals next anyway.
They left us.
The only one we kicked out was Garlett as it turns out.
Fev left us and Sticks asked him to reconsider.
Betts left us, and went to Adelaide by choice.
Waite left us, and went to North by choice.
Henderson who could kick 20 a year left us by choice.
Bell left us by choice.
All of them wanted out more than we wanted them to leave and none of them will be around when we are playing finals next anyway.
Didn't include Fev, he was gone lone before.
Betts would've stayed for the right money, said so himself. A few left due to the place being toxic, other's like Garlett and Robbo (equal B&F at Brisbane) got kicked out. A better culture and they would all be here including Henderson, and playing better football.
Ahh well, the rebuild and change of direction will do us good. Probably best.
You don't remember it was just 5 years ago we had 3 blokes who kicked 50 goals in a season, plus there was Waite as well. They are all gone, bar Walker, and playing good footy at other clubs
Between the one's we lost they near enough kicked more goals between them last year than what we kicked as a collective unit. Forgotten that?
Boys, lets stop looking in the rear view mirror. Look forward and enjoy the ride, it may be rough at times but it will make the success ahead sweeter. Things are on the up, the direction has changed and the path appears solid and sound. Our youth seem exciting, feck the past, its not worth wasting energy on.
Go Blues.
Buckley Jammo Weitering
Touhy Rowe Docherty
Boekhurst Gibbs Simpson
Thomas C. Curnow Walker
Kerridge Casboult Everitt
Kruezer Cripps Murphy
Graham E Curnow Wright Phillips
Just thinking out loud!!
Thomas wouldn't be in my 22 and Everitt is only there based on last year... His NAB cup efforts have been putrid.
You don't remember it was just 5 years ago we had 3 blokes who kicked 50 goals in a season, plus there was Waite as well. They are all gone, bar Walker, and playing good footy at other clubs
Between the one's we lost they near enough kicked more goals between them last year than what we kicked as a collective unit. Forgotten that?
And what did they do before we gave them away?
How was Garlet?
Was Waite and Garlet going to win us a flag? No!
We need to grow up and move on.
We gave Fev away too remember?
But it had to be done.
I'm glad Betts is gone. Great player but we need a clean out.
Three years not three minutes.
Is it going to be slow and painful? You bet it is.
Would Garlet and Waite have won us a few games? Who knows.
I want us winning flags not coming 7-10. That's for Richmond.
They left us.
The only one we kicked out was Garlett as it turns out.
Fev left us and Sticks asked him to reconsider.
Betts left us, and went to Adelaide by choice.
Waite left us, and went to North by choice.
Henderson who could kick 20 a year left us by choice.
Bell left us by choice.
All of them wanted out more than we wanted them to leave and none of them will be around when we are playing finals next anyway.
Remember that's according to Fev on a "reality" TV show.
There was never any chance that the club would have gone back on its decision to cut Fev adrift. There would have been a walkout of players if the club had backed down.
It's also very clear that Betts would have stayed if we had paid him what he was worth and allowed him to play to his ability.
Anyway, we've been over this ad nauseum; the club's recent list management stinks and Laidler's performance on Friday was sad evidence of that >:(
but I think C Curnow is a mid-fielder.
Totally disagree. He is every bit a full forward.
Obviously he has elite endurance but that is the only midfielderish thing about him.
Looking at our list it is absolutely critical that he becomes a key forward.
Could SOSOS become a senior player this year as a goal-sneak? Apart from Weitering he looks the most natural footballer of our recruits.
Not good heading into the year a looking at holes in our first team you can drive a truck through.
Remember that's according to Fev on a "reality" TV show.
There was never any chance that the club would have gone back on its decision to cut Fev adrift. There would have been a walkout of players if the club had backed down.
It's also very clear that Betts would have stayed if we had paid him what he was worth and allowed him to play to his ability.
Anyway, we've been over this ad nauseum; the club's recent list management stinks and Laidler's performance on Friday was sad evidence of that >:(
DJC I am ensuring that we don't look at these blokes as perfect little soldiers who we got rid of.
They weren't. Good footballers when they wanted to be and some of them still are.
I place the responsibility for these guys firmly on the club who have not fostered a jumper and team first environment. Resulting in players doing their own thing and leaving us.
Aside from that, we didn't chase them out, they left for more money, or better chances at a premiership or in some cases simply to get out of our footy club.
It's what we are all here for. Our footy club, and it's become clear to me that Bolton may be the only coach who has been interested in building for the long term benefit of our club than any coach we have had since parkin and largely because of our footy clubs administration.
The others were too busy looking over their shoulders or patting themselves on the back to put themselves second to our clubs future which Is the underlying reason they all got sacked but that was the environment of our footy club. All we had yo do was back in the senior coach and the rest would take care of itself.
Buckley Jammo Weitering
Touhy Rowe Docherty
Boekhurst Gibbs Simpson
Thomas C. Curnow Walker
Kerridge Casboult Everitt
Kruezer Cripps Murphy
Graham E Curnow Wright Phillips
Just thinking out loud!!
Can we play Galucci over Thomas??
B: Tuohy, Jamison, Weitering
Hb: Docherty, Rowe, Simpson
C: Boekhorst, Cripps, Gibbs
Hf: Lamb, Everitt, Graham
F: Wright, Casboult, Walker
Foll: Kreuzer, Kerridge
Rov: Murphy
I/c: Buckley, E.Curnow, Phillips, Whiley
Emg: Byrne, Gorringe, Gallucci
***Modified with Thomas out suspended.
B: Tuohy, Jamison, Weitering
Hb: Docherty, Rowe, Simpson
C: Thomas, Cripps, Gibbs
Hf: Lamb, Everitt, Buckley
F: Wright, Casboult, Walker
Foll: Kreuzer, Kerridge
Rov: Murphy
I/c: Boekhorst, E.Curnow, Graham, Phillips
Emg: Byrne, Gorringe, Gallucci, Whiley
I like this team, except I'm wondering why you put Boekhorst on the i/c ?
Can we play Galucci over Thomas??
ATM The Looch seems to offer a little more TBF.
ATM The Looch seems to offer a little more TBF.
I reckon, he will be probably wont last more than a couple games. His body looks absolutely shot.
B: Tuohy, Jamison, Weitering
Hb: Docherty, Rowe, Simpson
C: Thomas, Cripps, Gibbs
Hf: Lamb, Everitt, Buckley
F: Wright, Casboult, Walker
Foll: Kreuzer, Kerridge
Rov: Murphy
I/c: Boekhorst, E.Curnow, Graham, Phillips
Emg: Byrne, Gorringe, Gallucci, Whiley
My worry with this is Phillips and Rowe in the same team. You can carry two lumbering blokes provided they contribute in the air like Hawthorn had with Hale but Phillips looks another Warnock to me and Rowe has been dropping far too many in the nab matches.
I like this team, except I'm wondering why you put Boekhorst on the i/c ?
Yep, I think Boeky and Graham are ahead of a few so they, by rights, should start on the ground.
Thomas, Bucks, Lamb, Wright and the above two all rotating mid/flanker types.
Gibbs....not feeling like he's gonna have a big one this year. Hope it changes.
My worry with this is Phillips and Rowe in the same team. You can carry two lumbering blokes provided they contribute in the air like Hawthorn had with Hale but Phillips looks another Warnock to me and Rowe has been dropping far too many in the nab matches.
We can't batter Kreuzer too much too early.
Gotta have another ruckman in there and I'm willing tio give Philips a crack.
I get what you mean though with these big blokes. Their size will hopefully help team structure and others as a minimum.
My worry with this is Phillips and Rowe in the same team. You can carry two lumbering blokes provided they contribute in the air like Hawthorn had with Hale but Phillips looks another Warnock to me and Rowe has been dropping far too many in the nab matches.
They may come good in the real season, it does happen. Rowe is capable of playing well but he is far too inconsistent for my liking and has been making some absolute howlers this year. Too hit and miss. Phillips has some scope though.
B: Tuohy Jamison Weitering
HB: Docherty Rowe Simpson
C: Boekhorst Murphy Buckley
HF: Kerridge C. Curnow Gibbs
F: Walker Casboult Everitt
Foll: Kreuzer Cripps E. Curnow
Int: Graham Thomas White Wright
Rowe as relief ruck for Kreuzer and White insurance down back when that happens or just get him crashing in at centre bounces like last year.
I guess Murphy will play forward mostly given it's his first game for the year.
B: Tuohy Jamison Weitering
HB: Docherty Rowe Buckley
C: Boekhorst Gibbs Simpson
HF: C. Curnow Casboult Everitt
F: Lamb Walker Murphy
Foll: Kreuzer Cripps Kerridge
Int: Graham Thomas Wright E. Curnow
E. White Gorringe Byrne
Would love to fit Byrne in there. Side looks a little more dangerous with Murphy in the fwd pocket. Can't wait for Plowman / Sumner / Sheehan to be fit. Add a bit of competition for places and they are running players with good disposal which we need.
They left us.
The only one we kicked out was Garlett as it turns out.
Fev left us and Sticks asked him to reconsider.
Betts left us, and went to Adelaide by choice.
Waite left us, and went to North by choice.
Henderson who could kick 20 a year left us by choice.
Bell left us by choice.
All of them wanted out more than we wanted them to leave and none of them will be around when we are playing finals next anyway.
LOL
Yep they clearly left us for worse deals from opposing clubs....
If we're including Hendo (28 goals from 17 games his best), we may as well include Setanta (26 goals from 14 games) as well.
With Thomas out, the wheels are falling off our season already ::)
With Thomas out, the wheels are falling off our season already ::)
Wouldnt call Thomas a wheel, given his output so far its more like losing a dust cap off a valve....like to see Byrne considered for his spot..
Wouldnt call Thomas a wheel, given his output so far its more like losing a dust cap off a valve....like to see Byrne considered for his spot..
Has Byrne got the rookie upgrade for McKay?
Wouldnt call Thomas a wheel, given his output so far its more like losing a dust cap off a valve....like to see Byrne considered for his spot..
Byrne for Thomas would be a positive :)
Byrne for Thomas would be a positive :)
Heck good luck to the lad.
When's Plowman likely to be ready btw?
Byrne for Thomas would be a positive :)
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B: Tuohy, Jamison, Weitering
Hb: Docherty, Rowe, Simpson
C: Thomas, Cripps, Gibbs
Hf: Lamb, Everitt, Buckley
F: Wright, Casboult, Walker
Foll: Kreuzer, Kerridge
Rov: Murphy
I/c: Boekhorst, E.Curnow, Graham, Phillips
Emg: Byrne, Gorringe, Gallucci, Whiley
Don't need a 2nd ruck. None of the back ups are any good maybe with exception of Wood. Play Rowe forward with Casboult, it'll at least take some pressure off the latter, then we have a couple of back ups for Kreuzer. Even if Rowe struggles he'll take a man and take some heat of Casboult. Not sure how Casboult would cope as the no.1 forward with multiple defenders going to him. Goes pretty well as a no.2 forward with rucking, not sure as a full time no.1.
Don't need a 2nd ruck. None of the back ups are any good maybe with exception of Wood. Play Rowe forward with Casboult, it'll at least take some pressure off the latter, then we have a couple of back ups for Kreuzer. Even if Rowe struggles he'll take a man and take some heat of Casboult. Not sure how Casboult would cope as the no.1 forward with multiple defenders going to him. Goes pretty well as a no.2 forward with rucking, not sure as a full time no.1.
Casboult is jumping a lot but not having much impact, momentarily Gorringe offered more last match so who losses out?
I suspect Casboult gets to stay but it must be 50/50.
Also historically Hampson does alright against SpecialK in the center so who else do we try, have Gorringe or Philips done OK against Hampson? Philips in the center might be a good option against Hampson because I am not sure Hampson can get first hand on the ball against Philips. Around the ground Kreuzer should have Hampson covered.
If we think Maric is going to play Kreuzer is our only option.
Casboult is jumping a lot but not having much impact, momentarily Gorringe offered more last match so who losses out?
I suspect Casboult gets to stay but it must be 50/50.
Also historically Hampson does alright against SpecialK so who else do we try, have Gorringe or Philips done OK against Hampson?
Casboult's a certainty at this stage. Only key forward we have available. Gorringe offers nothing and certainly not going to play in Casboult's spot as a key forward. play Casboult further up the ground as he is better when he has room to move around. If we play a 2nd ruck would much prefer Wood. No matter what anyone says he has shown something at least and our best actual marking ruckman.
Hampson likely to play? Happy to back Kreuzer against him if he does. Hampson isn't very good these days. Never been great but he's worse now.
momentarily Gorringe offered more last match so who losses out?
Gorringe who touched the ball once in the first minute and then for the rest of the game had another 1?
Gorringe has no idea where to go to even get into a contest. Leads away from space. Runs behind his opponent when a fast break is on... cannot possibly be in our best 22.
Phillips was WAY better against Sydney than he had been previously but still not as good as Wood.
B: Tuohy, Jamison, Weitering
Hb: Docherty, Rowe, Simpson
C: Boekhorst, Cripps, Gibbs
Hf: Lamb, Everitt, Graham
F: Wright, Casboult, Walker
Foll: Kreuzer, Kerridge
Rov: Murphy
I/c: Buckley, E.Curnow, Phillips, Whiley
Emg: Byrne, Gorringe, Gallucci
***Modified with Thomas out suspended.
B: Tuohy, Jamison, Weitering
Hb: Docherty, Rowe, Simpson
C: Boekhorst, Cripps, Gibbs
Hf: Lamb, Everitt, Graham
F: Wright, Casboult, Walker
Foll: Kreuzer, Kerridge
Rov: Murphy
I/c: Buckley, E.Curnow, Phillips, Whiley
Emg: Byrne, Gorringe, Gallucci
***Modified with Thomas out suspended.
C.Curnow gets a game for me ahead of Lamb or Everitt.
Is Armfield ready, always seems to give the tigers trouble.
With a complete lack of goal kickers , Everitt needs to play , as much as I want C Curnow to get some game time we need to have some type of proven options to goal
There still seems to be some doubt as to whether Murph will play - heard it in passing on SEN earlier - not sure who said it.
C.Curnow gets a game for me ahead of Lamb or Everitt.
Is Armfield ready, always seems to give the tigers trouble.
The season opener is usually a pretty hot contest, is it the right game to be playing a bunch of kids?
The season opener is usually a pretty hot contest, is it the right game to be playing a bunch of kids?
I can't see Lamb being dropped after his game vs. Sydney where he was pretty good.
C Curnow will play but in place of Gorringe not Lamb.
Everitt wasn't in the starting team vs. Syd and has been played out of position (backline) in the NAB cup so either BB does a backflip and puts him back in the forward line or he will play VFL I'd think. You couldn't select him based on his atrocious backline efforts where he was a liability.
I can't see Lamb being dropped after his game vs. Sydney where he was pretty good.
C Curnow will play but in place of Gorringe not Lamb.
Everitt wasn't in the starting team vs. Syd and has been played out of position (backline) in the NAB cup so either BB does a backflip and puts him back in the forward line or he will play VFL I'd think. You couldn't select him based on his atrocious backline efforts where he was a liability.
Lamb has 7 possies vs the Swans and dropped a few easy marks IMO..I thought he was ordinary, laid a few tackles but didnt hit the scoreboard and had no effect on the game.
I think he needs a few games in the NB's to get some touch....Matthew Wright is way ahead of him IMO.
Agree on Everitt, woeful down back and is about as hard as a maccas soft serve on a 40 degree day....he should start in the NB's but wont IMO as he can convert from limited opportunities and we dont have many players who can kick straight and kick multiple goals..
There still seems to be some doubt as to whether Murph will play - heard it in passing on SEN earlier - not sure who said it.
I have been hearing this for weeks now (not from SEN). My guess would be he is 40/60.
Lamb has 7 possies vs the Swans and dropped a few easy marks IMO..I thought he was ordinary, laid a few tackles but didnt hit the scoreboard and had no effect on the game.
I think he needs a few games in the NB's to get some touch....Matthew Wright is way ahead of him IMO.
Agree on Everitt, woeful down back and is about as hard as a maccas soft serve on a 40 degree day....he should start in the NB's but wont IMO as he can convert from limited opportunities and we dont have many players who can kick straight and kick multiple goals..
Although Lamb didn't get a lot of the ball, he was applying pressure to the Swans backs at every opportunity. Some of these efforts don't appear on the stats sheet. I say give him a game.
Although Lamb didn't get a lot of the ball, he was applying pressure to the Swans backs at every opportunity. Some of these efforts don't appear on the stats sheet. I say give him a game.
+1 kerridges third goal was on the back of some lamb double effort tackling.
I saw enough to be pleased that lamb isn't just a list clogger.
+1 kerridges third goal was on the back of some lamb double effort tackling.
I saw enough to be pleased that lamb isn't just a list clogger.
I thought it was on the back of a superb hitout from Kreuzer ???
Lamb did lay a few tackles but it was a pretty ordinary performance from a bloke who is trying to establish himself in a new team. He will have to do a lot better to avoid playing out the season with the NBs.
I thought it was on the back of a superb hitout from Kreuzer ???
Lamb did lay a few tackles but it was a pretty ordinary performance from a bloke who is trying to establish himself in a new team. He will have to do a lot better to avoid playing out the season with the NBs.
Maybe it was the second one he scored.
Lamb was tackling players whilst swans were handballing and Kerridge read it off the hands and pounced to score.
If Lamb wasnt tackling, rather than handballing backwards, the swans would probably have had an easier time rebounding.
Maybe it was the second one he scored.
Lamb was tackling players whilst swans were handballing and Kerridge read it off the hands and pounced to score.
If Lamb wasnt tackling, rather than handballing backwards, the swans would probably have had an easier time rebounding.
I think it was the second one Thry. Several players applied defensive pressure and that created the opportunity for Kerridge to intercept. I didn't really notice Lamb but I'm happy to accept that he was involved. However, Lamb only had two tackles inside the forward 50 for the game. The maligned Thomas led the way with three.
That's an area where we need to improve so there's certainly an opportunity for a defensive small forward. I'd have Armfield in the side before Lamb at this stage, subject to fitness and form.
Id agree with that DJC.
Im simply looking for the green shoots, and think that lamb might be at least a set of steak knives which are always useful.
;)
7 possessions isn't enough yet, but it is a start. I liked the negative things he did: his pressure was excellent. However, he needs more possessions and he need a right foot. If he can start getting a few goals for the NBs, then by all means give him another try.
7 possessions isn't enough yet, but it is a start. I liked the negative things he did: his pressure was excellent. However, he needs more possessions and he need a right foot. If he can start getting a few goals for the NBs, then by all means give him another try.
I'd like to see Smith given a crack as the crumbing small forward - some highlights of his footy pre joining CFC were very Jeff Farmer like imo.
There's Sumner too to come in at some point.
I'd like to see Smith given a crack as the crumbing small forward - some highlights of his footy pre joining CFC were very Jeff Farmer like imo.
There's Sumner too to come in at some point.
I cant remember, did Smith get a run in any of the NAB Games?
I cant remember, did Smith get a run in any of the NAB Games?
Yes, he certainly played game two.
Yes, he certainly played game two.
Smith didn't have a lot of impact, but he wasn't Robinson Crusoe. He kicked a goal but didn't apply the forward pressure we need.
Call me hopeful but I reckon BB has something up his sleeve for our forward line.
He may have left it too late but has kept it under wraps so it will catch teams unaware.
But then again he may keep it under wraps for the whole season. ;D
Smith didn't have a lot of impact, but he wasn't Robinson Crusoe. He kicked a goal but didn't apply the forward pressure we need.
And to be fairer still, our midfield was so bereft of talent/ability/experience that day the only manner the ball went anywhere our F50 was via random luck.
Throw the blokes who matched it with Sydney last week into the middle and our forwards (big and small) will look a lot better?
Here's one from left field; as I understand it Clem Smith has been working on his endurance over the off season and has made significant stride (a lot fitter), could Smith be trialed as a tagger who can push forward?
Specifically could he run with a Cotchin or Delidio? Smith's defence and ability to hurt in the tackle could really disrupt the Tigers running game. Given they've lost Conca and have reduced rotations can this be a weapon in our favour?
Thoughts?
Oh well Yarran wont be there Rd 1 or round 2,3,4,5......... ;D Just reported he is having minor foot surgery.
One of 2 things here. Either they didn't get the medical checks they should have or he's as brittle as a biscuit.
Either way early days i know, but still not the start they would have wanted trading an early pick for.
Oh well Yarran wont be there Rd 1 or round 2,3,4,5......... ;D Just reported he is having minor foot surgery.
One of 2 things here. Either they didn't get the medical checks they should have or he's as brittle as a biscuit.
Either way early days i know, but still not the start they would have wanted trading an early pick for.
Kept that quiet until the Hardwick deal was done didn't they? Someone in the club wanted Hardwick and they knew he would be under the pump from supporters for chasing the brittle Yarran!
Here's one from left field; as I understand it Clem Smith has been working on his endurance over the off season and has made significant stride (a lot fitter), could Smith be trialed as a tagger who can push forward?
Specifically could he run with a Cotchin or Delidio? Smith's defence and ability to hurt in the tackle could really disrupt the Tigers running game. Given they've lost Conca and have reduced rotations can this be a weapon in our favour?
Thoughts?
Dangerous players to put the inexperienced Smith on....Deledio will probably play forward and is a capable goal kicker these days........both would be too big for Smith to handle.
I'd rather Ed Curnow take Cotchin...
Deledio, Cotchin and Martin are very dangerous when played forward and we need to get our match ups right and not have undersized players on them...
Smith is probably better suited being out of the forward pocket where he can create some turnovers and forward pressure...
Oh well Yarran wont be there Rd 1 or round 2,3,4,5......... ;D Just reported he is having minor foot surgery.
One of 2 things here. Either they didn't get the medical checks they should have or he's as brittle as a biscuit.
Either way early days i know, but still not the start they would have wanted trading an early pick for.
I'm disappointed that he won't play. I would like him to experience the new Carlton first up.
However, .....
Reports suggest he is having surgery of the plantar fascia: do not expect a quick or an easy return (been there, done that!). He may never totally recover (it took me years, but then I'm not an AFL footballer).
Having painted a terrible picture ( :) ), I bet he'll have no trouble and will be back early.
Touhy or White for Dusty, Curnow snr for DeLedio.
Dangerous players to put the inexperienced Smith on....Deledio will probably play forward and is a capable goal kicker these days........both would be too big for Smith to handle.
I'd rather Ed Curnow take Cotchin...
Deledio, Cotchin and Martin are very dangerous when played forward and we need to get our match ups right and not have undersized players on them...
Smith is probably better suited being out of the forward pocket where he can create some turnovers and forward pressure...
I agree. Smith would get lost very quickly, and it is asking too much of him to do much with the ball if he did get hands on it. The best result would be for Clem Smith to spend most of the season playing in the reserves, with a block of 3 or 4 games in the seniors due to injury. He isn't ready for league level football yet, and apart from the odd exception, we shouldn't expect first and second year players to be playing regular league football. That's the depth the club is striving to build.
I agree. Smith would get lost very quickly, and it is asking too much of him to do much with the ball if he did get hands on it. The best result would be for Clem Smith to spend most of the season playing in the reserves, with a block of 3 or 4 games in the seniors due to injury. He isn't ready for league level football yet, and apart from the odd exception, we shouldn't expect first and second year players to be playing regular league football. That's the depth the club is striving to build.
Who says he's not ready?
For all those that replied; yes I agree Clem Smith is inexperienced but tagging is also a way of bringing him to the ball (following the better players).
Points taken about Cotchin and Martin wouldn't be a good match up with his ability to play forward, I just thought with a maturing body, better tank and his ability to apply physical pressure this could take some heat out of the Tigers running game. Remember they've lost Conca now from Thursday's mix.
Brynne for instance would be a risk being elevated (they all would be if they haven't played) and they have to get the experience sometime. We need to find out quickly who can play and who can't. If Smith can be applying pressure and crunching blokes, he will cause turnovers and I would have thought a tagging role might work for him.
Anyone know if he has he tagged much at the reserves level?
oh i think a big mistake to play Clem anywhere other than forward personally (at this stage of his development).
To digress:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-03-16/injury-update-edwards-conca-grigg-townsend (http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-03-16/injury-update-edwards-conca-grigg-townsend)
So no Grigg, Conca, Yarran and possibly Edwards!
Anyone else we know of?
I would rather keep him as a creative type player and not train him to be a negative type. Just sayin... ???
I would rather keep him as a creative type player and not train him to be a negative type. Just sayin... ???
I think there are already clear signs that Bolton is expanding the skills base faster and further than the previous coaches, for that reason I think you will find the younger blokes get intermittent games and be asked to work on stuff back at VFL level. I thought it was pretty obvious how poorly trained some of our guys were when sent to unfamiliar positions, they had no idea what they were supposed to be doing. I'll bet Bolton is changing that to everyone should know what everybody else does, even if they are no good at it they should still know what to do!
I think there are already clear signs that Bolton is expanding the skills base faster and further than the previous coaches, for that reason I think you will find the younger blokes get intermittent games and be asked to work on stuff back at VFL level. I thought it was pretty obvious how poorly trained some of our guys were when sent to unfamiliar positions, they had no idea what they were supposed to be doing. I'll bet Bolton is changing that to everyone should know what everybody else does, even if they are no good at it they should still know what to do!
Seems so logical, why hasn't any of our other coaches thought of doing that? :o
Although Fev was put a Full Back for a game wasn't he? ;)
Evidence for development right there.... young or new players coming in and looking like they can play their assigned roles at senior levels, not just being brought in "see if they can play". A bit tough when the NB's were a rabble on so many levels.
Well I don't want Gibbs 'floating' around like a pansy so he can go have the spotlight shining o him and match up against a Cotchin or the like. He needs to be challenged in a MAJOR way!
Well I don't want Gibbs 'floating' around like a pansy so he can go have the spotlight shining o him and match up against a Cotchin or the like. He needs to be challenged in a MAJOR way!
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BTW, We're currently at $4.50 (think the line is under 4 goals).
I dint think we're a good show but Richmond with some injuries in round 1, us with a new coach, is probably our best shot at an upset all year.
Would be a nice change to start the season with a win.
oh i think a big mistake to play Clem anywhere other than forward personally (at this stage of his development).
We played him forward in rd 1 last year and Houli ran off him, exposing him at every opportunity.
We played him forward in rd 1 last year and Houli ran off him, exposing him at every opportunity.
In fairness to Clem he looks substantially fitter this year, but he'd need to be.
Interesting fan engagement, Braithwaite singing 'Horses' with a few live ones running around, then repeating the song at 1/4 time and 3/4 time. It's not Cox Plate Day!!
B Tuohy Jamo Weitering
HB Docherty Rowe Simpson
C Boeky Gibbs E Curnow
HF Graham Jaksch Wright
F Kerridge Casboult Walker
R Kruezer Murphy Cripps
INT from Buckley White Everitt Lamb
Whiley Cunningham C Curnow, Is Army still inj?
Couldnt fit Byrne, Sheehan or Tutt in. Clem Smith probs needs more time in the magoos, i could be wrong.
Daisy, Plowman, Army and maybe Sumner i expect to come in when ready but this is as good as it gets for our first hit out me thinks.
I dont think Cas is the solution to kicking us a winning score as a stay at home forward so his time is better spent playing second fiddle to Kreuze. Rowe and Jamo should swing forward too to maybe jag an odd goal here or there.
Forward line looks ok with 1AW, Kerridge and Wright in there, Nicky G loves a goal too. If Jaksch could get his head right and believe in himself he might surprise us this year, maybe. Really hope so.
Backs look alright too but i reckon Rowe is a weak link. Weitering floating in and taking 10 intercept marks a game might help. 2E, Simmo and Docherty pick themselves.
If Murph plays our mids group are looking reasonably strong, particularly if Kerridge and Boeky continue on their nab form and Gibbs gets out of second gear. Cripps gives me goosebumps, glad hes signed til the end of 2019? Hope the Tractor finally repays the faith this year, we need him to. Curnow to Crotchin, Everitt On Lids, Gibbs head to head with Chopsticks, and 2E taking them when they go forward.
Not rocket science i know but we really need a few blokes to kick 30 plus this year, i'm looking at Cas and Walker for 30+. Wright for 20+. And our mids namely Murph, Gibbs, Cripps, Kerridge, Boeky, Nicky G and of course Kreuze to contribute 10 or so each. Not asking too much am i? >:D Be Nice if Everitt and Jaksch got amongst a few as well, dont want Dre being our leading goalie this year as well, if he is i reckon we'll have the number 1 pick 2 years running.
Hope we show some fight and really show em what the new Carlton is about. I want 4 quarter performances as i'm sure you all do as well. Bolts would be on the same page i'm tipping.
Not expecting to win many this year but i hope we don't give up.
I want every team we play against to go $h1t these pr1ck$ are tough as nails now.
No more soft, complacent, bull$h1t Carlton.
No easy wins against us anymore.
2016 here we come 8)
Our chances of winning this (and most other) game hinges on our mids getting plenty of first use of the footy and using it well inside 50.
Boeshurst, Kerridge, Wright, Graham all add upside on what we could do in this area on 2015.
With Cripps, Murphy (with less heat on him as others are targeted) we're half a chance.
If Levi, Everitt, KJ (will the latter bplay - what are his real issues? Couldn't be a worse option than Jones in any circumstance?) can clunk a few early and kick straight....build their confidence, their team mates and could set us up for an unlikely win.
Don't rate the Tiges other than a handful of players - shut those key players down and you're very likely.
Not having Grigg, Conca and maybe Edwards big outs for them.
Weitering must take Jack imo - simply don't think Jamo has it enough anymore ie skill, speed, ball/player awareness, aerially) to compete with a Jack R. in half decent or better form.
Our chances of winning this (and most other) game hinges on our mids getting plenty of first use of the footy and using it well inside 50.
Boeshurst, Kerridge, Wright, Graham all add upside on what we could do in this area on 2015.
With Cripps, Murphy (with less heat on him as others are targeted) we're half a chance.
If Levi, Everitt, KJ (will the latter bplay - what are his real issues? Couldn't be a worse option than Jones in any circumstance?) can clunk a few early and kick straight....build their confidence, their team mates and could set us up for an unlikely win.
Don't rate the Tiges other than a handful of players - shut those key players down and you're very likely.
Not having Grigg, Conca and maybe Edwards big outs for them.
Weitering must take Jack imo - simply don't think Jamo has it enough anymore ie skill, speed, ball/player awareness, aerially) to compete with a Jack R. in half decent or better form.
I dont think Casboult will get much ball playing on Rance so we need to find other avenues to kick goals, I'd be playing Gibbs forward like the Tigers do with Deledio and have him leading out.
Agree on the mids, if we dont dominate in the middle then they will win as their forward line is more potent, we need to keep it away from Reiwoldt and crew...if its 50/50 out of the middle then we will lose IMO..
Big game needed from Kruezer...
All good points EB.
Weitering must take Jack imo - simply don't think Jamo has it enough anymore ie skill, speed, ball/player awareness, aerially) to compete with a Jack R. in half decent or better form.
Really, while Jack might be a dill, he can play the game. You play a proven performer on Jack in Jammo, JW can then be a bit free to intercept mark, get used to the pace of the game before being asked to do that plus mind a potential Coleman medalist. In a couple of seasons then sure JW gets the best forward, but let's not smash the kid first game.
I'd say Murphy plays 70% of the game up forward as a crumber to Levi, give the Richmond small defenders something to really worry about. It gets Murph into match touch and gives us a very dangerous option around goal.
I know we are short on forwards bit the sooner we stop trying to manufacture players into key position players the better, Levi gets lost when out of the game to long , needs to when the action is to get the best out of him. Hope they don't play him in a full time forward role will stifle him. Leave him in a pocket , ruck with Kruz , not sure KJ who hasn't even played a game this year will be the answer first up. Still in favour Rowe up front , to stretch the defence .
Byrne is the nominated rookie. I reckon he'll be in the side.
Weitering, Kerridge and Wright in too, and maybe Phillips as 2nd Ruckman.
Byrne is the nominated rookie. I reckon he'll be in the side.
Weitering, Kerridge and Wright in too, and maybe Phillips as 2nd Ruckman.
Im all for plenty of change, try as many of the newbies as soon as possible. We are a team in a hurry!
Liking Byrne as well hope he can get a run very soon, I am sure there will be a serious turnover in the first 2 months. As well as a serious clean out at the end of the year as well, that will be interesting, many are playing for there pay packet in the early rounds, and no performance there papers might be stamped
I dont think Casboult will get much ball playing on Rance so we need to find other avenues to kick goals, I'd be playing Gibbs forward like the Tigers do with Deledio and have him leading out.
Agree on the mids, if we dont dominate in the middle then they will win as their forward line is more potent, we need to keep it away from Reiwoldt and crew...if its 50/50 out of the middle then we will lose IMO..
Big game needed from Kruezer...
That said if we could get the ball to Levi one on one with Rance, Levi will simply monster him - and is better in the air in any event. 6cm taller, probably 10-12cm in reach and arguably 10kg heavier. i'd back Levi in 8 times out of 10.
The problem has been that by the time the ball gets down there Levi is one on two or three - maybe Fev could occasionally beat that but Levi is a young fish yet to fully blossom.
Trick to this whole game will be to lower our eyes and hit the likes of Everitt, Walker and whoever else plays forward as the bomb will be what Richmond expect and feed right into their hands.
They are not a great side across the park and rely on playing their way to win and denying them that it will get them nervous in rd 1 again and we have a shot as we should a lot of ball from the middle.
Trick to this whole game will be to lower our eyes and hit the likes of Everitt, Walker and whoever else plays forward as the bomb will be what Richmond expect and feed right into their hands.
They are not a great side across the park and rely on playing their way to win and denying them that it will get them nervous in rd 1 again and we have a shot as we should a lot of ball from the middle.
Agree 100%. We must go cold turkey on the long dumb bomb - if we are going to use bombs they must be smart ones!
That said if we could get the ball to Levi one on one with Rance, Levi will simply monster him - and is better in the air in any event. 6cm taller, probably 10-12cm in reach and arguably 10kg heavier. i'd back Levi in 8 times out of 10.
The problem has been that by the time the ball gets down there Levi is one on two or three - maybe Fev could occasionally beat that but Levi is a young fish yet to fully blossom.
Would be great, as long as they play him closer to the square and give the mids etc a target, not have no one home when they breakthrough the ground
Richmond have more depth and are far more settled as a team.
They have a better forward line and a better defense.
Our midfield would have to do it all. But we do have Cripps.
Agree 100%. We must go cold turkey on the long dumb bomb - if we are going to use bombs they must be smart ones!
Exactly, bombing when they have numbers back will be a sin as they will spoil, rebound and peel off and have us sucked up the ground too far. Bombing is fine occasionaly when you can put 1 or 2 of their defenders under real man on man pressure and have someone like Everitt coming across and marking etc.
If we want to work on our game plan then we need to play at least one preferably two true key position sized forwards.
Levi will be one.
The other has to be Liam Jones on his three goal effort.
Have to reward results even if he is crap.
We have the following key position forward options.
Gorringe
Casboult
Jones
Jaksch
Plowman
McKay
Sosos
Of that lot most are unproven, one looks capable (Casboult) and the other is Jones.
We go Jones and Levi until others get fit and oust them from our team IMHO.
I would rather McKay in plaster & crutches that Jones on the field.
I would rather McKay in plaster & crutches that Jones on the field.
David, Andrew or Harry for that matter!
I would rather McKay in plaster & crutches that Jones on the field.
x3
Jones is a proven failure at senior level so why would he be considered for selection. He needs to prove himself worthy over a protracted period in the VFL.
He isn't a proven failure under Bolton.
Keep in mind his last two coaches were Mick Malthouse and McCartney.
Either way, we are looking at draft pick 1-8 at best this season. More likely top 5. Might as well let the team work out the role of the bloke playing key forward and worry about who it is next year.
He isn't a proven failure under Bolton.
Keep in mind his last two coaches were Mick Malthouse and McCartney.
Either way, we are looking at draft pick 1-8 at best this season. More likely top 5. Might as well let the team work out the role of the bloke playing key forward and worry about who it is next year.
Not a valid reason to play him, in fact, I don't think there is.
Weitering must take Jack imo - simply don't think Jamo has it enough anymore ie skill, speed, ball/player awareness, aerially) to compete with a Jack R. in half decent or better form.
No way! Weitering is still very much in the development stage and needs to find the pace of AFL football (don't take too much on NAB form). Just ease him into the whole process and he'll 'sprout' into an A Grader. We're a team in a hurry, but not THAT much of a hurry. Jammo for mine.
Poor poor Jon Jon Malphy Ralphy Walphy is a bit complainy wainy again in The Huny Wuny (https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi43arguMzLAhVkJqYKHTPsCpsQFggcMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heraldsun.com.au%2Fsport%2Fafl%2Fteams%2Frichmond%2Fsunday-score-chris-yarran-was-overweight-when-he-joined-richmond%2Fnews-story%2Fc700a1926825e32e7e1b2a949dab9fc7&usg=AFQjCNGTLmtezRj35l1IGGS2uGq7-O7XUw). ::)
Apparently the big bad Carlty warlty made Yazzy Wazzy too fatty watty, lazzy wazzy and sicky wicky. :o
Then when the nicey wicey, goody woody, 9thy winey made Yazzy Wazzy all better wetter he got a painy wainy and had to have a needly weedly! Awwww, so sad! :(
Not a valid reason to play him, in fact, I don't think there is.
Who else is there? He kicked three goals in the vfl last week. Kerridge is the only one showing that level of scoring power thus far.
He might actually go alright under Bolton. We have to play him.
Poor poor Jon Jon Malphy Ralphy Walphy is a bit complainy wainy again in The Huny Wuny (https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi43arguMzLAhVkJqYKHTPsCpsQFggcMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heraldsun.com.au%2Fsport%2Fafl%2Fteams%2Frichmond%2Fsunday-score-chris-yarran-was-overweight-when-he-joined-richmond%2Fnews-story%2Fc700a1926825e32e7e1b2a949dab9fc7&usg=AFQjCNGTLmtezRj35l1IGGS2uGq7-O7XUw). ::)
Apparently the big bad Carlty warlty made Yazzy Wazzy too fatty watty, lazzy wazzy and sicky wicky. :o
Then when the nicey wicey, goody woody, 9thy winey made Yazzy Wazzy all better wetter he got a painy wainy and had to have a needly weedly! Awwww, so sad! :(
The sport in the Hun is a complete joke.
I can't believe how poor a paper it has become.
From Triple M, i just gott say this 22 doesn't strike fear in my mind (noting that we are not world beaters).
B: Dylan Grimes, Troy Chaplin, Nick Vlastuin
HB: Chris Yarran, Alex Rance, Bachar Houli
C: Brett Deledio, Dustin Martin, Shaun Grigg
HF: Shane Edwards, Ben Griffiths, Sam Lloyd
F: Ben Lennon, Jack Riewoldt, Ty Vickery
R: Ivan Maric, Trent Cotchin, Anthony Miles
I: Jake Batchelor, Brandon Ellis, Taylor Hunt, Kamdyn McIntosh
This 22 a far better team (and throw in Kerridge for Dennis or Dale)!
B: Dylan Buckley, Sam Rowe, Sam Docherty
HB: Kade Simpson, Michael Jamison, Zach Tuohy
C: Bryce Gibbs, Patrick Cripps, Matthew Wright
HF: Dennis Armfield, Charlie Curnow, Dale Thomas
F: Andrejs Everitt, Levi Casboult, Andrew Walker
R: Matthew Kreuzer, Ed Curnow, Marc Murphy
I: Nick Graham, Blaine Boekhorst, Lachie Plowman, Jacob Weitering
From Triple M, i just gott say this 22 doesn't strike fear in my mind (noting that we are not world beaters).
B: Dylan Grimes, Troy Chaplin, Nick Vlastuin
HB: Chris Yarran, Alex Rance, Bachar Houli
C: Brett Deledio, Dustin Martin, Shaun Grigg
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Why is Yazz listed ?
it was their theoretical best 22 without excluding injured players in the present.
it was their theoretical best 22 without excluding injured players in the present.
I see. Thanks.
I thought it was some sort of form guide as to the actual R1 teams.
What about adding Simon White to the forward line maybe CHF , has kicked goals on occasion , think of using him as a lead up player, would allow Levi to stay at home in the square.
White does need a position. It's ok to be flexible but at some point you need to hold down a proper position. Permanently flicking around between forward back wing tagger..
Would Like to see him tried there for a few weeks, as you say Jeza , needs a position, maybe it could be his, nobody else is really putting there hand up, till maybe McKay is back on board at least. Can't see Philips , Goringe , KJ as options? Maybe only Rowe is really left ?
Would Like to see him tried there for a few weeks, as you say Jeza , needs a position, maybe it could be his, nobody else is really putting there hand up, till maybe McKay is back on board at least. Can't see Philips , Goringe , KJ as options? Maybe only Rowe is really left ?
Not a bad idea RB for White to fill in there for a few weeks - despite White's limitations I would MUCH rather him than Jones atm. Give Jones a run of a few games in the VFL with a few specific targets to achieve to see how he goes.
At least he would give us some grunt up there , can take a grab, kick a goal,and has some energy which we lack some much off.
Poor poor Jon Jon Malphy Ralphy Walphy is a bit complainy wainy again in The Huny Wuny (https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi43arguMzLAhVkJqYKHTPsCpsQFggcMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heraldsun.com.au%2Fsport%2Fafl%2Fteams%2Frichmond%2Fsunday-score-chris-yarran-was-overweight-when-he-joined-richmond%2Fnews-story%2Fc700a1926825e32e7e1b2a949dab9fc7&usg=AFQjCNGTLmtezRj35l1IGGS2uGq7-O7XUw). ::)
Apparently the big bad Carlty warlty made Yazzy Wazzy too fatty watty, lazzy wazzy and sicky wicky. :o
Then when the nicey wicey, goody woody, 9thy winey made Yazzy Wazzy all better wetter he got a painy wainy and had to have a needly weedly! Awwww, so sad! :(
I didn't see any reference to Carlton making Yarran overweight. They just said he came back from training 7KG overweight.
I didn't see any reference to Carlton making Yarran overweight. They just said he came back from training 7KG overweight.
Not when he returned from training, when he "Arrived at 9thmond"
Sunday Score: Chris Yarran was overweight when he joined Richmond
RICHMOND conceded on Friday Chris Yarran hadn’t arrived at the club in a satisfactory state for pre-season training.
Plenty of figures have been bandied around but the one from inside the club is that he was 7kg overweight when he rocked up.
Make no mistake, it's Ralph deflecting the 9thmond fans who are unhappy with Yarran's recruitment to 9thmond and pegging the blame on Carlton. This comes just a few days after they published a story saying Yarran had struggled with Plantar Fascia for "several years", again deflecting blame to Carlton.
Not when he returned from training, when he "Arrived at 9thmond"
Make no mistake, it's Ralph deflecting the 9thmond fans who are unhappy with Yarran's recruitment to 9thmond and pegging the blame on Carlton. This comes just a few days after they published a story saying Yarran had struggled with Plantar Fascia for "several years", again deflecting blame to Carlton.
Fargum.
Can't see how this article insinuates or suggests Carlton is to blame for anything.
More importantly, Deledio looks like missing the first two games!
It's interesting to read the Richmond statement on Yarran's situation. They say that he had worked hard over the break and was in prime condition before the calf injury.
I would be more inclined to play White back where he seems more comfortable and even be tempted to play him on Jack just to annoy the crap out of him and crunch him fairly every time they go near the ball and play Rowe forward.Wietering could take the yabby Vickery and Jamo the other tall forward.White has at least got some mongrel in him and wont be pushed around,and has got the ability to play tall,White seems a much better player when he is assigned a task rather than being just sent out to play.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-19/best-22-who-makes-the-cut-at-your-club (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-19/best-22-who-makes-the-cut-at-your-club)
Three more sleeps peeps :D
Three more sleeps peeps :D
First time I've been excited about a season since 2013. Really cant wait!
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-19/best-22-who-makes-the-cut-at-your-club (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-19/best-22-who-makes-the-cut-at-your-club)
Ours 22 looks very close to the mark IMO. We should be in with a real show on Thurs. if we can keep the mistakes in check and deliver the ball well into F50.
B: Sam Rowe, Michael Jamison, Zach Tuohy
HB: Sam Docherty, Jacob Weitering, Kade Simpson
C: Ed Curnow, Bryce Gibbs, Blaine Boekhorst
HF: Andrejs Everitt, Simon White, Nick Graham
F: Andrew Walker, Levi Casboult, Sam Kerridge
Foll: Matthew Kreuzer, Patrick Cripps, Marc MurphyInt: Andrew Phillips, Dylan Buckley, Dale Thomas, Matthew Wright
Warming to the idea of White as a roaming CHF, even a defensive role to limit the effectiveness/run of Rance. He certainly has the motor to go with Rance....
And we know he'll always give niggle and give a contest. Makes Everitt a very hard match up for their 3rd tall, let alone Walks who plays tall.
Ours 22 looks very close to the mark IMO. We should be in with a real show on Thurs. if we can keep the mistakes in check and deliver the ball well into F50.
B: Sam Rowe, Michael Jamison, Zach Tuohy
HB: Sam Docherty, Jacob Weitering, Kade Simpson
C: Ed Curnow, Bryce Gibbs, Blaine Boekhorst
HF: Andrejs Everitt, Simon White, Nick Graham
F: Andrew Walker, Levi Casboult, Sam Kerridge
Foll: Matthew Kreuzer, Patrick Cripps, Marc Murphy
Int: Andrew Phillips, Dylan Buckley, Dale Thomas, Matthew Wright
Change Thomas for Clem or Charlie then email it to BB ;D
Change Thomas for Clem or Charlie then email it to BB ;D
Do we need Rowe, Levi, Kreuzer and Phillips as ruck options?
Maybe Curnow for Phillips, Clem for Thomas?
Ours 22 looks very close to the mark IMO. We should be in with a real show on Thurs. if we can keep the mistakes in check and deliver the ball well into F50.
B: Sam Rowe, Michael Jamison, Zach Tuohy
HB: Sam Docherty, Jacob Weitering, Kade Simpson
C: Ed Curnow, Bryce Gibbs, Blaine Boekhorst
HF: Andrejs Everitt, Simon White, Nick Graham
F: Andrew Walker, Levi Casboult, Sam Kerridge
Foll: Matthew Kreuzer, Patrick Cripps, Marc Murphy
Int: Andrew Phillips, Dylan Buckley, Dale Thomas, Matthew Wright
We're in trouble if White is played as CHF. Third tall or lead up forward perhaps but not CHF. We really have to hope that Jaksch steps up or McKay and/or Curnow develop quickly.
Forget set positions to a degree and whether or not someone is CHF, HFF or the like.
The combination ia what I am more interested in.
Casboult (the monster 2m / 100 keg power forward with 'roaming' talls in Everitt, Walker and White is exactly the idea I floated throughout 2015.
Not saying it's a winner but I think we could get more support, options and system with this setup - plus some crumbers or resting mids (Kerridge, Wright, Gibbs, Murphy, Cripps, Graham, etc).
I don't mind it.
Rowe could be another option forward also IMO.
Reckon BB will 'throw' the side around a fair bit anyway.
What we know is - Jones ain't up to it as a forward.
Jaksch is seemingly a mile away from it unfortunately.
McKay is young and injured.
Charlie Curnow will not be the saviour CHF round 1. Hooping he comes on sooner than later though!
No one is suggesting it's even a medium term fix DJC.
Forget set positions to a degree and whether or not someone is CHF, HFF or the like.
The combination ia what I am more interested in.
Casboult (the monster 2m / 100 keg power forward with 'roaming' talls in Everitt, Walker and White is exactly the idea I floated throughout 2015.
Not saying it's a winner but I think we could get more support, options and system with this setup - plus some crumbers or resting mids (Kerridge, Wright, Gibbs, Murphy, Cripps, Graham, etc).
I don't mind it.
Rowe could be another option forward also IMO.
Reckon BB will 'throw' the side around a fair bit anyway.
What we know is - Jones ain't up to it as a forward.
Jaksch is seemingly a mile away from it unfortunately.
McKay is young and injured.
Charlie Curnow will not be the saviour CHF round 1. Hooping he comes on sooner than later though!
Mostly in consensus Pratty.
White gets a bad wrap but he makes a significant contest inside F50 and can mark.
Pretty sure we will see significant forward resting time from Cripps, Gibbs, Kreuzer, Philips and others, it will be interesting to see what happens late in games as legs get tired and rotations are no longer there to rest players. Talls will always be talls!
One person we haven't seen getting a run through HF is Weitering, this kid can kick goals from 60m. He and Tuohy sneeking forward are significant weapons around the 50m arc. If Weiters starts intercepting some kick-ins he could easily put the ball back over the FBs head! ;)
i don't get the idea of a resting forward. :o
ALL of our forwards spend 90% of the game running to and from our backline, generally behind the ball as well.
We have no stay at home forwards anymore.
We're in trouble if White is played as CHF. Third tall or lead up forward perhaps but not CHF. We really have to hope that Jaksch steps up or McKay and/or Curnow develop quickly.
The thread is about R1 DJC - none of your suggestions for CHF would seem to be ready?
Anyway, the line up as shown is about our "forward 6" - they surely will be rotated through different roles throughout the game rather than play in one fixed position.
First time I've been excited about a season since 2013. Really cant wait!
Same, abit apprehensive cos we've been beaten around the head for some many years, but excited.
I'd like to see Murphy spend most of his time as a forward. Besides being very good there, we need to start moving into the next generation midfield. Murphy for spurts and when they new guys start to lose their way (which will likely be often to begin with)
The thread is about R1 DJC - none of your suggestions for CHF would seem to be ready?
Anyway, the line up as shown is about our "forward 6" - they surely will be rotated through different roles throughout the game rather than play in one fixed position.
There's still only one key forward in that forward six and we won't kick a competitive score if we have to rely on Casboult, Kreuzer, Phillips, Rowe, etc to share the duties. Playing White, Walker or Everitt as a key forward would give Richmond an advantage.
I fear that we may go with an underdone Jaksch, an underdeveloped Curnow or an underwhelming Jones :(
Of course, Thomas isn't available for round 1 but I don't think his replacement will weaken the side.
i don't get the idea of a resting forward. :o
ALL of our forwards spend 90% of the game running to and from our backline, generally behind the ball as well.
We have no stay at home forwards anymore.
It's going to be very interesting to see how it changes due to the limited rotations, defenders also won't be able to run up and down like they have in the past.
It's not so much resting it's more about making extra rotations available for certain mids while reducing your own run. I think it's only available as an option to marking talls who demand a defenders attention, they will be able to reduce their running for a period while we try to lock the ball inside F50 with small medium sized players rotating. Of course you must win the midfield to implement this strategy.
Expect more zones in 2016 and less man on man.
There's still only one key forward in that forward six and we won't kick a competitive score if we have to rely on Casboult, Kreuzer, Phillips, Rowe, etc to share the duties. Playing White, Walker or Everitt as a key forward would give Richmond an advantage.
I fear that we may go with an underdone Jaksch, an underdeveloped Curnow or an underwhelming Jones :(
Of course, Thomas isn't available for round 1 but I don't think his replacement will weaken the side.
It will all obviously come down to how BB structures for the game, and the rotations and the tactics he employs. It's his challenge to optimise our approach based on the personnel available. High, dumb bombs into F50 will not work as they play to one of our major current weaknesses. He has to make sure we are a lot more creative and less predictable, based on the personnel ready and available for the game and their respective strengths. I'll be very interested to see how we approach it.
Gees I'd like to beat these over rated hicks but I'm a realist... I'd take a competitive effort where we kick more than 13 goals and keep them under 18.
It's going to be very interesting to see how it changes due to the limited rotations, defenders also won't be able to run up and down like they have in the past.
It's not so much resting it's more about making extra rotations available for certain mids while reducing your own run. I think it's only available as an option to marking talls who demand a defenders attention, they will be able to reduce their running for a period while we try to lock the ball inside F50 with small medium sized players rotating. Of course you must win the midfield to implement this strategy.
Expect more zones in 2016 and less man on man.
Expect the continued overlap and free player availability other teams seem get when they play us.
Zones are great when EVERYONE is on the same page.
Expect the continued overlap and free player availability other teams seem get when they play us.
Zones are great when EVERYONE is on the same page.
It was pretty apparent we weren't against the Swans - in fact we looked all at sea at times. I guess we have to persevere though if we want to master it.
I'd like to see Murphy spend most of his time as a forward. Besides being very good there, we need to start moving into the next generation midfield. Murphy for spurts and when they new guys start to lose their way (which will likely be often to begin with)
We need a small bloke in the fwd line that can draw a free kick, Murph is quite good at it. About time we start exploiting goals from frees like other teams do to us.
We need a small bloke in the fwd line that can draw a free kick, Murph is quite good at it. About time we start exploiting goals from frees like other teams do to us.
Fair point. Start watching tapes of Lindsay Thomas.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-21/tiger-brett-deledio-to-miss-season-opener (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-21/tiger-brett-deledio-to-miss-season-opener)
We need a small bloke in the fwd line that can draw a free kick, Murph is quite good at it. About time we start exploiting goals from frees like other teams do to us.
We are Carlton, we don't get free kicks! ;)
We are Carlton, we don't get free kicks! ;)
Ain't that the truth >:(
Ain't that the truth >:(
Change is in the winds, I can feel it ;)
Gee part of me is pretty confident in an upset.
Reckon the Tigers are underdone and we will win plenty of ball.
I can't see us turning around our skills and execution so quickly, but their is plenty of experience in that side and reckon the Tiges are quite ready for 2016.
I am not holding out much hope though.
Can you imagine if we beat those hillbillies ,we would set them back for a while :D .I dont think we will win but our beautiful jumper makes them panic no end .The 3 dangers to us are Rance,Riwolting and Martini ( but he might be off his game becoz of his old man woes heres hoping )
Guaranteed, if it is a Carlton win then the media will spin it as 9thmond had a depleted and injury crippled list. If 9thmond win the media will say it's because Carlton's list is no good.
Gee part of me is pretty confident in an upset.
Reckon the Tigers are underdone and we will win plenty of ball.
I can't see us turning around our skills and execution so quickly, but their is plenty of experience in that side and reckon the Tiges are quite ready for 2016.
I am not holding out much hope though.
I reckon thoughts of an upset win are not misplaced.
Weitering adds another dimension to our defence with his ability to take intercept marks and use the ball creatively. Our midfield is right up there and hopefully can assist the forwards to kick a winning score. A lot will depend on who gets the nod for the second key forward spot.
Of course, our ability to consistently execute Bolton's gameplan under genuine match conditions will be the most telling factor.
With a young side, all these outs from Rich will create another headache for us, getting ahead of ourselves. BB will have to work heard this week to control that.
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2016-03-21/tuohy-were-empowered
Anything's possible according to Zac!
Great to have optimism , but reality is a harsh mistress , we don't have forwards who kick goals, averaged btwn 5-6 goals in our 3 NAB matches we have to at least double that to even look reasonable. We might win the contested possessions , we might break even in the mids , but we don't convert. Unless we find a real avenue to goal that can convert we will be in this for periods of the game. But the lack of scoreboard pressure will take effect and we roll away , sad but true.
Great to have optimism , but reality is a harsh mistress , we don't have forwards who kick goals, averaged btwn 5-6 goals in our 3 NAB matches we have to at least double that to even look reasonable. We might win the contested possessions , we might break even in the mids , but we don't convert. Unless we find a real avenue to goal that can convert we will be in this for periods of the game. But the lack of scoreboard pressure will take effect and we roll away , sad but true.
It will be interesting to see whether BB tries to find some new avenues or whether he persists with those we tried in the NAB Challenge, or a combination of both. I'll be looking for something new and creative together with more precision when we do try the long kick into F50. We must be looking for leading players and guys one out, not for contested situations where we are well covered.
Great to have optimism , but reality is a harsh mistress , we don't have forwards who kick goals, averaged btwn 5-6 goals in our 3 NAB matches we have to at least double that to even look reasonable. We might win the contested possessions , we might break even in the mids , but we don't convert. Unless we find a real avenue to goal that can convert we will be in this for periods of the game. But the lack of scoreboard pressure will take effect and we roll away , sad but true.
IMO, this is unfortunately true. Huge amounts of work still to be done.
I keep saying, BB has something up his sleeve for our forward line. :-X
All will be good......fingers crossed. >:D
Maric in doubt, severley underdone if he does play.
I keep saying, BB has something up his sleeve for our forward line. :-X
All will be good......fingers crossed. >:D
I suspect that all he's got up his sleeve is an arm ::)
I'm sure he has a long term plan but it won't come to fruition until we draft and/or develop a quality key forward. He will have a plan B but he can't kick the goals himself.
I suspect that all he's got up his sleeve is an arm ::)
I'm sure he has a long term plan but it won't come to fruition until we draft and/or develop a quality key forward. He will have a plan B but he can't kick the goals himself.
So what are you saying, the Coach cant get them up for the task?
He'll have something up his sleeve for sure. In the end if the midfield can deliver some quality ball inside 50m forwards will naturally thrive.
Our Forwards have to get moving, get on their bikes and be mobile.
When's the last time we saw Levi stream full tilt and get hit lace out ala the Fev days.
We too often see our forwards duck back and call for the big bomb. Need to get mobile, need to get active.
Maric in doubt, severley underdone if he does play.
I wish we were good enough to take advantage!!!
I wish we were good enough to take advantage!!!
Have faith Shades. Right now? We all start square, Zero Wins, Zero Losses.
Our Forwards have to get moving, get on their bikes and be mobile.
When's the last time we saw Levi stream full tilt and get hit lace out ala the Fev days.
We too often see our forwards duck back and call for the big bomb. Need to get mobile, need to get active.
This is the crux of the issue. Our forwards need to be moving alot more than they seem capable of, while maintaining some semblance of position. Its all well and good for Casboult to fly, but at best, he is going to take 5 contested marks a game, and only maybe a couple close to goal. It is uncontested marks forward that are needed to score, but these take constant movement as a team to create spaces where the ball can be delivered. Accurately.
Casboult will have a good defender all season, so he is going to have to improve a great deal. The midfield will have to step up as goal kickers. But it is hard to see us kicking more than 10-12 goals per game. Our skills and team work just aren't good enough.
So what are you saying, the Coach cant get them up for the task?
The coach has to have the cattle and, at the moment, we are one key position bull short of a herd.
I'm sure Bolton has something in place but he's a coach, not a miracle worker.
The coach has to have the cattle and, at the moment, we are one key position bull short of a herd.
I'm sure Bolton has something in place but he's a coach, not a miracle worker.
The dark side clouds everything. Impossible to see the future is. ;)
The dark side clouds everything. Impossible to see the future is. ;)
I'm still leaning towards a win :)
When Walker came back last year he finished off with 4,4, 1, 2 goals. Everitt kicked 31 for the year. Kerridge and Wright are goal kickers. Our mids need to get amongst the goals, be responsible for 4-5. Just need to spread the love and take our chances. There are goals there if we deliver properly.
When Walker came back last year he finished off with 4,4, 1, 2 goals. Everitt kicked 31 for the year. Kerridge and Wright are goal kickers. Our mids need to get amongst the goals, be responsible for 4-5. Just need to spread the love and take our chances. There are goals there if we deliver properly.
Hopefully, Casboult has been foxing in the NAB Cup too. ????
Maric unlikely to play which is a real bonus IMO...Kruezer usually doesnt like the strong bodie type ruckman and i reckon he can dominate Hampson, Vickery and Griffiths and give us first use...
If we cant be competitive this week vs a weak Tigers team then its going to be a long year...
Maric unlikely to play which is a real bonus IMO...Kruezer usually doesnt like the strong bodie type ruckman and i reckon he can dominate Hampson, Vickery and Griffiths and give us first use...
If we cant be competitive this week vs a weak Tigers team then its going to be a long year...
EB1. Games are invariably won, or lost, in the midfield. Our mids, without Smurf (and Gibbs going at 20% - 40%), matched it with the much vaunted Sydney midfield, we'll more than cover the Tigers mids.....even without factoring in their mids out eg Conce, Grigg and Edwards has to be iffy even if he plays?
Thereafter, our forwards will get plenty of chances just need to take them and kick straight. If so, we'll win comfortably.
Who knows when GA tickets go on sale?
EB1. Games are invariably won, or lost, in the midfield. Our mids, without Smurf (and Gibbs going at 20% - 40%), matched it with the much vaunted Sydney midfield, we'll more than cover the Tigers mids.....even without factoring in their mids out eg Conce, Grigg and Edwards has to be iffy even if he plays?
Thereafter, our forwards will get plenty of chances just need to take them and kick straight. If so, we'll win comfortably.[/b]
Who knows when GA tickets go on sale?
Surely your joking.....win comfortably?
We have the worst forward line the comp bar none. That's a fact. We have a midfield that is IMO is very competitive against most but lacks depth in comparison to the top team midfields. The defence is lacking key tall posts and Jamo and Rowe while serviceable are not world beaters. And any good quality small forward usually rips us a new one.
But what ive seen and heard we are on the right path to improve but this will take time and I don't think we will get close to any team this year except Cheats, loins and maybe saints and demons.
Tigers by 45 sadly
I hope I'm wrong but unless Cas plays a blinder, Walks winds back the clock and our mids kick 6-7 plus goals between them I don't think we will get close.
Yep - unless our mids can hit the scoreboard constantly.....we're absolutely forked......
Worst forward line in living memory......
I think we can expect about 8 (total) goals from the following players:
Levi
Jones (if he plays)
Kreuzer
Wright
Everitt
Walker
None of them are world beaters, but they can all kick a goal in the right situations. If we get first use, they will get more opportunities which should lead to goals.
From there, its just a matter of whether or not we can get others to chime in with a couple as well. If we can get one or more from the following players (not every week, but a mix of them):
Cripps
Gibbs
Tuohy
Murphy
Simpson
Docherty
Byrne
Kerridge
Murphy
Thomas
Then we can score enough to win games. Its all about how well we use the footy. If we are in last seasons form we wont win many, but last season we were clearly underdone and ill prepared for a full season. We seem to be in better overall condition but the real stuff is just about to start and things might change... Who knows. A bit of luck will be needed too obviously. Richmond are the most overated team in the AFL bar North Melbourne, and are missing 2 players who are barometers for whether or not they win games. Combine that with the fragility they frequently remind everyone of having, and the fact that they have a soft backend to the season, they will come good later but are ripe for the picking this week.
Blues by 10 points. We wont win easy, but Im confident we can and will win.
I have odds of 5.6 for the win (less than 39 points).
Happy with that.....
I think we can expect about 8 (total) goals from the following players:
Levi
Jones (if he plays)
Kreuzer
Wright
Everitt
Walker
We've had no one who can reliably kick multiple goals per week since Fev. Walker is the closest and even he kicked 1 goals or less in a third of his games.
It's a big call then for 2 of them to kick multiple goals each week and the rest also getting on the scoreboard.
None of them are world beaters, but they can all kick a goal in the right situations. If we get first use, they will get more opportunities which should lead to goals.
From there, its just a matter of whether or not we can get others to chime in with a couple as well. If we can get one or more from the following players (not every week, but a mix of them):
Cripps
Gibbs
Tuohy
Murphy
Simpson
Docherty
Byrne
Kerridge
Murphy
Thomas
Then we can score enough to win games. Its all about how well we use the footy. If we are in last seasons form we wont win many, but last season we were clearly underdone and ill prepared for a full season. We seem to be in better overall condition but the real stuff is just about to start and things might change... Who knows. A bit of luck will be needed too obviously. Richmond are the most overated team in the AFL bar North Melbourne, and are missing 2 players who are barometers for whether or not they win games. Combine that with the fragility they frequently remind everyone of having, and the fact that they have a soft backend to the season, they will come good later but are ripe for the picking this week.
Blues by 10 points. We wont win easy, but Im confident we can and will win.
Early on, we're going to need a number of big individual efforts to drag the team along IMO. Which may be enough to snag a win but the focus needs to be on getting the players playing a game now that will win us flags, even if it means losses now.
It's so hard to judge the efforts of older players from the NAB Cup, most of them cruise through pre-season mostly keen on avoiding injury. As a result young blokes look better than they otherwise should and old blokes generally look poorer for their efforts.
We definitely start as underdogs, but are injuries taking a toll on 9thmond?
Surely your joking.....win comfortably?
We have the worst forward line the comp bar none. That's a fact. We have a midfield that is IMO is very competitive against most but lacks depth in comparison to the top team midfields. The defence is lacking key tall posts and Jamo and Rowe while serviceable are not world beaters. And any good quality small forward usually rips us a new one.
But what ive seen and heard we are on the right path to improve but this will take time and I don't think we will get close to any team this year except Cheats, loins and maybe saints and demons.
Tigers by 45 sadly
I hope I'm wrong but unless Cas plays a blinder, Walks winds back the clock and our mids kick 6-7 plus goals between them I don't think we will get close.
Unfortunately I would have to agree. I don't know about your winning margin though.
Certainly had no trouble kicking goals circa 09,10,11.
Lol @ Jones kicking a goal.
None of them are world beaters, but they can all kick a goal in the right situations.
I could probably kick a goal in the right situation as well.
I could probably kick a goal in the right situation as well.
Thats what im hoping for.
We wont win by dominating the key forward posts, it will happen by using the ball well which will set up scoring situations.
Lol @ Jones kicking a goal.
Believe it or not, he has averaged one per game in his afl career and is on 7 in 9 matches with us in what was a wooden spoon year.
Lack of midfield depth?
Hmmm. How many does any one team play at any one time?
Murphy
Crippa
Gibbs
Curnow
Graham
Kerridge
Wright
Boekhurst
Thomas
Cuningham
Tutt
Whiley
Sumner
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2016-collingwood-has-more-midfielders-than-any-other-afl-club-but-are-they-any-good/news-story/4bfa7afe898c7170ee7e010bba0a6000 (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2016-collingwood-has-more-midfielders-than-any-other-afl-club-but-are-they-any-good/news-story/4bfa7afe898c7170ee7e010bba0a6000)
Thats what im hoping for.
We wont win by dominating the key forward posts, it will happen by using the ball well which will set up scoring situations.
Believe it or not, he has averaged one per game in his afl career and is on 7 in 9 matches with us in what was a wooden spoon year.
From an outsider looking in, it seems Jones's issues are between the ears (ie confidence). Some blokes who are normally mild mannered cross that white line and go feral turning into Superman. Liam Jones seems to cross the white line and go from Clark Kent to Bashful (from Snow White and Seven Dwarfs).
Believe it or not, he has averaged one per game in his afl career and is on 7 in 9 matches with us in what was a wooden spoon year.
Which goes to show that you can make a case for just about anything!
I like the idea of Jones playing, surely he can compete for us and perhaps slot a goal or two. But we know in reality he ends up having little impact in any facet of the game, he looks like a goose and we all get depressed watching him play... It's just not worth it.
From an outsider looking in, it seems Jones's issues are between the ears (ie confidence). Some blokes who are normally mild mannered cross that white line and go feral turning into Superman. Liam Jones seems to cross the white line and go from Clark Kent to Bashful (from Snow White and Seven Dwarfs).
That and he is terrible at Football.
Which goes to show that you can make a case for just about anything!
I like the idea of Jones playing, surely he can compete for us and perhaps slot a goal or two. But we know in reality he ends up having little impact in any facet of the game, he looks like a goose and we all get depressed watching him play... It's just not worth it.
The bloke has kicked a bag of 4 (and took some great contested marks) against (i think) the Pies a few seasons back.....so he can do it - just need to locate and lower the right levers!
From an outsider looking in, it seems Jones's issues are between the ears (ie confidence). Some blokes who are normally mild mannered cross that white line and go feral turning into Superman. Liam Jones seems to cross the white line and go from Clark Kent to Bashful (from Snow White and Seven Dwarfs).
Sorry mate, his issues are that he can't play.
That and he is terrible at Football.
Boy, talk about nit picking.
Sorry mate, his issues are that he can't play.
Yeah there is that too. However you can be terrible at footy but can show some effort and desire, he shows zilch which is what I meant.
Yeah there is that too. However you can be terrible at footy but can show some effort and desire, he shows zilch which is what I meant.
Ah yes I see what you mean, yes he can't play but his confidence is shot as well.
jones on the lead from goal square, bolt chf , must NOT let tigerrets run the ball out from our fwd line with ease our fwds must put pressure (thats all)
Yep - unless our mids can hit the scoreboard constantly.....we're absolutely forked......
Worst forward line in living memory......
We have a forward line??? Really where did we find it?
Yeah there is that too. However you can be terrible at footy but can show some effort and desire, he shows zilch which is what I meant.
I thought that Jones showed plenty of effort and desire against the Bombers in the NAB Challenge. He just couldn't get near the footy. ???
I thought that Jones showed plenty of effort and desire against the Bombers in the NAB Challenge. He just couldn't get near the footy. ???
Yes, unfortunately, that is one of his problems. We've been hearing for a while now about the effort, the desire, the cracking pre seasons, the "training the house down"......................It doesn't seem to translate into much on the field.
Is the team announced tomorrow?
Is the team announced tomorrow?
I've also wondered if there is a rule or protocol pertaining to this. The Official Laws of the Game don't really cover this, except to say that the team sheet must be lodged at least 30 minutes out from the game.
Ah yes I see what you mean, yes he can't play but his confidence is shot as well.
Dunno if its confidence or panic/performance anxiety but he just doesnt seem to have any effort or intensity on the field. Trains like a bull, plays like a lamb. Perhaps it is confidence but Im no shrink so I can only describe what I see.
Hampson carrying the ruck duties for the Tiggers.......will be an interesting match up.
Mate get on us for a win tomorrow night:
http://www.sen.com.au/news/afl/03-16/kbs-take-richmond-to-win-by-record-margin-over-carlton#YBd3rQjW0z7KpSJ1.97
KB reports a 191 point win in their favour.
Combine that with the betting odds having us at around $4.50 and the odds getting very short $1.80 for the tigers to win, and you just know that we are going to get up tomorrow night.
Don't jinx it re! Let KB do the jinxing which he is doing a great job of I might add.
2015 Richmond Total Goals Leaders (Minimum 5 Games Played)
Rank Name Games Total
1 Jack Riewoldt 23 54
2 Tyrone Vickery 15 31
3 Brett Deledio 18 27
4 Dustin Martin 23 24
5 Shaun Grigg 23 16
6 Sam Lloyd 12 13
6 Shane Edwards 16 13
8 Trent Cotchin 22 12
8 Ben Griffiths 13 12
8 Chris Newman 17 12
11 Ivan Maric 22 11
12 Kane Lambert 13 8
12 Brandon Ellis 23 8
12 Kamdyn Mcintosh 23 8
15 Nathan Gordon 9 7
15 Anthony Miles 23 7
So far we "officially" know Weitering and Murph are in, but still no official team announcement.
Getting twitchy.
Anyone see the team being any different from this ?
B Sam Rowe Michael Jamison Zach Tuohy
HB Sam Docherty Jacob Weitering Dylan Buckley
C Blaine Boekhorst Patrick Cripps Nick Graham
HF Jed Lamb Levi Casboult Matthew Wright
F Marc Murphy Andrew Walker Andrejs Everitt
R Matthew Kreuzer Bryce Gibbs Sam Kerridge
IC Simon White Kade Simpson Ed Curnow
Andrew Phillips
I'd love to see Byrne squeeze in there somehow but not sure it will happen.
So far we "officially" know Weitering and Murph are in, but still no official team announcement.
Getting twitchy.
BB also confirmed Kerridge. He's not giving much away is he?
First half team for NAB 3 minus Daisy / Gorringe - plus Murphy / Everitt.
Not sure Everitt "deserves" a game but can a team with no forwards drop the leading goalkicker from last season?
Would love to see C Curnow in there too.
Anyone see the team being any different from this ?
B Sam Rowe Michael Jamison Zach Tuohy
HB Sam Docherty Jacob Weitering Dylan Buckley
C Blaine Boekhorst Patrick Cripps Nick Graham
HF Jed Lamb Levi Casboult Matthew Wright
F Marc Murphy Andrew Walker Andrejs Everitt
R Matthew Kreuzer Bryce Gibbs Sam Kerridge
IC Simon White Kade Simpson Ed Curnow
Andrew Phillips
I'd love to see Byrne squeeze in there somehow but not sure it will happen.
It depends.
Jones could play instead of Everitt
Walker might not play and Gorringe could
Byrne will likely get a run and Lamb could miss out.
hard to say, it depends on selection criteria.
Hampson carrying the ruck duties for the Tiggers.......
We're a chance!!!!
We're a chance!!!!
LOL sadly, he outrucked us last time around.
Believe it or not, he has averaged one per game in his afl career and is on 7 in 9 matches with us in what was a wooden spoon year.
Brad Fisher averaged 1.28 per game and played in two wooden spoon teams and two which finished second last.
Jones is a spud, there's no two ways about it.
BB also confirmed Kerridge. He's not giving much away is he?
Thanks cookie - that's 3 good ins. 19 to go. He's a cagey one that Bolton.
Re jeza's team, I reckon most folks will have 75% of the starting line up, since they are our typical "certain starters". It's the other 25%..................
No love for Clem ?
Thanks cookie - that's 3 good ins. 19 to go. He's a cagey one that Bolton.
Re jeza's team, I reckon most folks will have 75% of the starting line up, since they are our typical "certain starters". It's the other 25%..................
No love for Clem ?
I did the ghosts of Carlton tour late last year and we were expressly told no photographs in the recovery area out the back and in the auditorium - expressly directed by the coach! There were some player measurements and key terms on the board etc. if you notice weiterings video today on the screen behind there is some text fuzzed out too!
Makes sense really
Backs 23. Jacob Weitering 40. Michael Jamison 42. Zach Tuohy
Half-backs 4. Bryce Gibbs 17. Sam Rowe 33. Andrejs Everitt
Centreline 15. Sam Docherty 35. Ed Curnow 6. Kade Simpson
Half-forwards 13. Jed Lamb 41. Levi Casboult 9. Patrick Cripps
Forwards 1. Andrew Walker 8. Matthew Kreuzer 11. Sam Kerridge
Followers 34. Andrew Phillips 46. Matthew Wright 3. Marc Murphy (C)
Interchange 7. Dylan Buckley 12. Blaine Boekhorst 32. Nick Graham
43. Simon White
Emergencies 30. Charlie Curnow 25. Clem Smith 24. Mark Whiley
Kerridge, Weitering, Wright, Lamb & Phillips all new. Not surprising considering we added 15 new players to our list and I would expect C Curnow was not that far away either. Quite a good side (relatively speaking) and if we can find multiple avenues to goal we will give it a real shake.
Looking forward to the new beginning!!
Hope we smash em.
Go Blues
Brad Fisher averaged 1.28 per game and played in two wooden spoon teams and two which finished second last.
Jones is a spud, there's no two ways about it.
spuds are useful , love my chips
Damn, Rowe and White, we are indeed a spud team.
I suppose the actual named positions don't mean much...........
Probably no real surprises in that line up.
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/teams
I suppose the actual named positions don't mean much...........
Probably no real surprises in that line up.
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/teams
No Jacksch is disappointing.
No Jacksch is disappointing.
Disappointed ? I guess.
Surprised ? Probably not.
Other than a decent CHF that's the best balanced side that we've put on the park for a long time.
Sorry guys unsure where to ask this but how can we purchase just a seat when we are Carlton members which just gets us into the ground. Ive looked at the Ticketek site but that seems to be general admission plus a seat.
Thanks guys
That certainly seems to be our best available 22.
It will be interesting to see whether the blokes recovering from injury and the developing players can force themselves into the side.
I'm not entirely happy about the prospect of the resting ruckman as a key forward but perhaps Bolton has a cunning plan.
Anyone see the team being any different from this ?
B Sam Rowe Michael Jamison Zach Tuohy
HB Sam Docherty Jacob Weitering Dylan Buckley
C Blaine Boekhorst Patrick Cripps Nick Graham
HF Jed Lamb Levi Casboult Matthew Wright
F Marc Murphy Andrew Walker Andrejs Everitt
R Matthew Kreuzer Bryce Gibbs Sam Kerridge
IC Simon White Kade Simpson Ed Curnow
Andrew Phillips
I'd love to see Byrne squeeze in there somehow but not sure it will happen.
Absolutely zero surprises with the team announced. When you look at C Curnow, Clem and Whiley as the emergencies - we're looking thin for depth.
That certainly seems to be our best available 22.
It will be interesting to see whether the blokes recovering from injury and the developing players can force themselves into the side.
I'm not entirely happy about the prospect of the resting ruckman as a key forward but perhaps Bolton has a cunning plan.
There it is... something up his sleeve! ;)
Damn, Rowe and White, we are indeed a spud team.
Agreed. If Plowman was fit you'd have to think that he was in our top 22. And then there's Jaksch. I'd like to think he's in our top 22, but he's been a major disappointment so far.
The tragedy is that if Thomas was playing White would still be in the team. Lamb is probably on there because Thomas isn't playing.
No Jacksch is disappointing.
Been ill apparently and hence didn't play NAB Challenge. Unlikely to play yet.
New blokes who did well in NaB were rewarded. Can't fault that.
Team's pretty Ok on paper. Reckon we will be super competitive tomorrow.
Agreed. If Plowman was fit you'd have to think that he was in our top 22. And then there's Jaksch. I'd like to think he's in our top 22, but he's been a major disappointment so far.
The tragedy is that if Thomas was playing White would still be in the team. Lamb is probably on there because Thomas isn't playing.
As our only small forward Lamb is not up against Plowman, White or Jaksch for a game... Clem for now and eventually Sumner.
I thought Lamb played a cracking game against Sydney anyhow. Set up a couple of goals and his tackling was the best I've seen in our forward line in a while.
New blokes who did well in NaB were rewarded. Can't fault that.
Team's pretty Ok on paper. Reckon we will be super competitive tomorrow.
I know we finished last in 2015 but these are games we should win. I don't rate Richmond, they are pretenders of the highest order and with the outs they have, they should not win. These are the games I want to win no matter our predicament, no matter our ladder position.
Go Blues
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-v-carlton-all-you-need-to-know-before-the-afl-season-opener-20160323-gnpqjj.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-v-carlton-all-you-need-to-know-before-the-afl-season-opener-20160323-gnpqjj.html)
I know we finished last in 2015 but these are games we should win. I don't rate Richmond, they are pretenders of the highest order and with the outs they have, they should not win. These are the games I want to win no matter our predicament, no matter our ladder position.
Go Blues
Funny they would be saying the exact same about us I'm sure.
Supreme optimism GIC but I like it ????
New blokes who did well in NaB were rewarded. Can't fault that.
Team's pretty Ok on paper. Reckon we will be super competitive tomorrow.
Agreed.
On the ruck side of things I think Phillips is a great choice of ruck if Hampson is playing for 9thmond, Hampson jumps over Kreuzer but he won't jump over Philips and neither will Vickery.
If we are ever going to upset an opposition, tonight feels like it's ripe for the picking!
Cannot see the teams lining up as picked, 9thmond have a very small defence listed if the ground conditions are good. But they have a few good runners, not sure who gets Sam Lloyd, probably Docherty.
I expect us to work over Shane Edwards and find out whether or not he is up for tonight or whether or not he is carrying a knock.
Thats how you know if we have turned the corner.
Find a weakness, and press on it till it breaks.
We havent had that mentality for a very long time.
Interesting listening to SEN this morning, Watto, Ox and Leech did there final 8 predictions. None of them had the March Premiers (ie 9thmond) in their 8.
Is it raining in Melb?
That's a decent team selected.
I had Whiley for White but I think we might get some marking flexibility with White in.
Good list of emergencies in C.Curnow, Smith and Whiley, then you add:
Cuningham
McKay
Silvagni
Jaksch
Plowman
Sumner
Gorringe
Byrne
Gallucci
Glass-McCasker
We have some youth. How good are they?
We'll find out plenty this year and even in the first half of the year I reckon.
The whole list (and organisation) has been, and will continually be, challenged.
Damn, Rowe and White, we are indeed a spud team.
You know my feelings on White, but i hope Jaksch is able to take over.
Rowe is a Spud, but speaking to other supporters they rate him. Regardless we go in with our "Best" backline and White as Cover, so it's really the best we have at the moment.
Big tick from Bolton on selection for mine, no Dick, Jones or Tutt to be seen.
I know we finished last in 2015 but these are games we should win. I don't rate Richmond, they are pretenders of the highest order and with the outs they have, they should not win. These are the games I want to win no matter our predicament, no matter our ladder position.
Go Blues
x3
I give us some chance tonight as the Tigers are down on numbers and the pressure is all on them with Hardwick being re-signed, we have picked a decent team on paper.
Blues by 9 points...
You know my feelings on White, but i hope Jaksch is able to take over.
Rowe is a Spud, but speaking to other supporters they rate him. Regardless we go in with our "Best" backline and White as Cover, so it's really the best we have at the moment.
Big tick from Bolton on selection for mine, no Dick, Jones or Tutt to be seen.
Agree, those three out tells me more about Bolts than those he has included. No need to play guys who are just not up to it ala Dick and Tutt while also avoiding the temptation to play Jones in the hope that he comes good.
You know my feelings on White, but i hope Jaksch is able to take over.
Rowe is a Spud, but speaking to other supporters they rate him. Regardless we go in with our "Best" backline and White as Cover, so it's really the best we have at the moment.
Big tick from Bolton on selection for mine, no Dick, Jones or Tutt to be seen.
Agree. We can only select the best we have available for each role. I was dreading the selection of Jones tbh but thankfully BB is on to him. He will play out his days in the VFL IMO, unless he miraculously turns it around. I think Tutt is certainly only marking time as well.
What's happened to Sheehan? Would love to see him get a decent run. I rate him, if only for the fact that he can actually kick.
Who else is pumped?? Farken go blues.
Is it raining in Melb?
Not at the moment, it was supposed to rain then clear but it seems to have missed the city!
Who else is pumped?? Farken go blues.
Massively.
Im always pumped to play richmond, and we are always a chance to beat them too no matter how badly we are going.
Ticketing query (which should probably have its own thread) - as a full AFL Member, can I buy an AFL Guest Pass for my wife (who is not a member) WITHOUT having to reserve seats?
I can see that I can purchase a Guest Pass on Ticketek for $56 (robbery!) but it insists on allocating a seat and I want to be able to sit wherever I want (or wherever's available in the Southern Stand).
AFL & Ticketek are useless on this front imo.
What's happened to Sheehan? Would love to see him get a decent run. I rate him, if only for the fact that he can actually kick.
Sheehan is out for another four weeks.
Sheehan is out for another four weeks.
Thanks Mondy. Sorry to hear that.
Sheehan is out for another four weeks.
He should give his doctor the ar5e and try a vet! :D
Ticketing query (which should probably have its own thread) - as a full AFL Member, can I buy an AFL Guest Pass for my wife (who is not a member) WITHOUT having to reserve seats?
I can see that I can purchase a Guest Pass on Ticketek for $56 (robbery!) but it insists on allocating a seat and I want to be able to sit wherever I want (or wherever's available in the Southern Stand).
AFL & Ticketek are useless on this front imo.
Dont think so Ivan. I had no luck doing the same online as was hoping to get a couple of GA tickets for family members as I have a membership. You can get one by lining up at the gate - earlier the better.
I don't know the reason why a GA ticket can't be purchased in advance - according to the material on the Ticketek site one should be able to - but it is not an option for this game.
Share your frustration and annoyance. There might be 75,000 there, but I doubt many more. Shouldn't be issues getting a GA ticket at the gate. Seat might be with the gods, but if we win, who cares.
First game attending in nearly 2 years! Go blues!
Liam Jones has kicked 3 goals in the 1st qtr of the NB's game !! After all the hate he has received, I will find it pretty funny if he is able to force his way back into the senior side. But if he earns his spot......
Qtr time
Blues 5.3 33
Tigers 1.2 8
Liam Jones has kicked 3 goals in the 1st qtr of the NB's game !! After all the hate he has received, I will find it pretty funny if he is able to force his way back into the senior side. But if he earns his spot......
There's probably a few conclusions you could draw from this. One is that he is simply a handy VFL player, and little more.
Liam Jones has kicked 3 goals in the 1st qtr of the NB's game !! After all the hate he has received, I will find it pretty funny if he is able to force his way back into the senior side. But if he earns his spot......
It would be great if he earns a spot but I'd like to see consistent performances for three or four games first.
The first test will be to see if he keeps going in this game.
Mods do we have a NB's thread or is here as good as anywhere to give updates?
Mods do we have a NB's thread or is here as good as anywhere to give updates?
Crash started one a couple of days ago - NB's practice match.
Liam Jones has kicked 3 goals in the 1st qtr of the NB's game !! After all the hate he has received, I will find it pretty funny if he is able to force his way back into the senior side. But if he earns his spot......
Qtr time
Blues 5.3 33
Tigers 1.2 8
If he can do that for a run of at least 5 weeks then I'd be happy for him to be considered for senior selection. 8)
He did well for the Doggies in the VFL.
Crash started one a couple of days ago - NB's practice match.
Opps, cheers, better go find it !!
If he can do that for a run of at least 5 weeks then I'd be happy for him to be considered for senior selection. 8)
He did well for the Doggies in the VFL.
Yeah, agree Cookie, I've said in the past 4+ goals 3 weeks running should probably earn him a spot in the seniors.
At least he is off to a fast start, here's hoping it continues and he can actually offer us something throughout the year.
You know my feelings on White, but i hope Jaksch is able to take over.
Rowe is a Spud, but speaking to other supporters they rate him. Regardless we go in with our "Best" backline and White as Cover, so it's really the best we have at the moment.
Big tick from Bolton on selection for mine, no Dick, Jones or Tutt to be seen.
Yup although I'm not a Dick hater.....well the player anyway. Jones and Tutt great outs.
Jones will need to dominate for a couple of months to see the senior team.
'm not a Dick hater.....well the player anyway
wut?!!??
Jones will need to dominate for a couple of months to see the senior team.
wut?!!??
Oh yeah I guess that could come across in two different ways lol.
I'm sitting in a camp kitchen in a caravan park in Hobart watching the pre-game activity on a 35cm TV.
Go Blues!