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How many people were happy with trading Fev? I was, and i was in the minority.
How many people were happy once fev capitulated and we became clear winners in the deal? With the benifit of hindsight, things appear a lot different.

He was a dud, until he got his body right...after 2 years...then was an important part of the midfield - 'fab 4' material!

Exactly HOW were we winners in the Fev deal?

I don't know were that idea comes from but it's repeated often and it's just not true. McLean was ripping it up in the VFL in his 2nd season and could not get a game, he had been written off by the club as being too slow for AFL. Yet in that year Bookmakers had him as 2nd favourite for the J.J. Liston trophy at $7 ahead of winner Valenti $9.

The rest of your post I agree with.

Plenty of gun VFL players who are no good at AFL level.

When he stepped up, he simply wasn't good enough at the time. Didn't have the fitness for AFL level due to the lack of training he'd done over the previous couple of years.

Krudds, in his second season(2011) he played Bullants midfield and average nearly 40 possessions. He was named amongst the best in 13 out of 17 games, and played four other rounds in the AFL. Fitness was not an issue, our clubs perception of him was the big problem. I remember late in 2011 Ratten talking about him when asked by media at a post match press conference, I don't recall the exact words but Ratten inferred they should have trusted McLean's football ability and played him at AFL level sooner.

Unfavourable judgments on Daisy are so premature.

Yes, he's been at the club 2 years and has delivered well shy of his price, but, the early finish to last season was something that no-one could have foreseen and should only be seen as basic rotten luck ....and his performance beyond that does not justify harsh and cynical judgment.

Provided his body holds up, this is the year Daisy has the chance to do what he does best and justify his recruiting. I just hope he ignores and totally blocks out the negative Nellies and focusses on just being himself. All the bloke needs is continuity of games and the rest will take care of itself.

Didnt do enough homework on Daisy..he was never fit enough to continue his AFL career and Collinwgood knew it but for some reason
we didnt...he still cant kick over a jam jar.
I dont blame the player for taking the easy money..I blame the club for taking him on, overpaying him and not doing their due diligence...

1. We didn't have to pay him 2mil+ he was contracted for over the next 3 years.
2. We traded him for Hendo+pick 12 (lucas) - We got more out of Hendo than Fev offered the lions.
3. We traded Hendo for Geelongs pick, which we ontraded for 4 gws boys, plus pick 8 (Which turned into Harry McKay).

End result, we saved 2 mil bucks and now have potentially a 10 year key forward (Harry McKay) as well as Lamb, Plowman, Phillips and Sumner.

So you tell me, how are we NOT winners from the fev deal!

When we got him, the Collingwood physio team were sure he was finally about to get his body right again. I don't have many connections in the football world but I can speak with authority on this one. Collingwood obviously had their doubts but it wasn't because of his ankle

Well our club doctor said no and we ignored him, so Collingwood must have been trying to trick us.

Is that a fact PI2C?
Forget my contacts, why, how does that happen?