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This view was born after he closed down about 3 metres on Nick Reiwolt the other year but it was a floater kick and Nick had just tweaked his quad or hammy so he was lame. Outside this instance, I can't really recall him closing in on anyone... I'm sure a YouTube video exists if it's happened.

Quote from: ItsOurTime on March 30, 2014, 07:41:15 pm

This view was born after he closed down about 3 metres on Nick Reiwolt the other year but it was a floater kick and Nick had just tweaked his quad or hammy so he was lame. Outside this instance, I can't really recall him closing in on anyone... I'm sure a YouTube video exists if it's happened.

No my view came from watching him play VFL.

What is more for a while RiverRat had the same view and posted as much on the old forum, I remember this explicitly as RiverRat was one of two that agreed with me.

But this is the nature of watching a player like Watson, opinions of them flip as often as their form does, all aboard the roller-coaster!

IMHO, the fact these kids are still roller-coasters is a coaching issue not a player issue.

There is no reason why Jordan Russell's AFL career should be over at his size, weight and his ability when on particularly when you find out he is only 27 years of age this year.

It was what happened when he switched off that killed him.  Now, whether it be the entire coaching panel of not, but Pagan had him from teenager to age 21 and Ratten was the senior coach from then onwards.  Was the damage done when Pagan was in charge?

If JR's problems had been coach related, why didn't he become a success when he moved like Scotland!

Quote from: denimundies on March 30, 2014, 01:15:45 pm

Ive changed my view on Watson over last few months. I think he'll be a good player.

I thought that too until he played a shocker vs Port....his lack of body on body work for a bloke his size is terrible, his U18 rebounding ability hid his lack of defensive ability
and its back to basics to get him up to speed and that could be a couple of years away..

Spot on EB.....exactly my thoughts. I went to the Port game thinking Watson had improved immeasurebly, left that game thinking the opposite. He was putrid.

Quote from: Brettie on March 31, 2014, 10:22:32 am

Spot on EB.....exactly my thoughts. I went to the Port game thinking Watson had improved immeasurebly, left that game thinking the opposite. He was putrid.

My concern here is that this says more about the change in fitness staff and less about the player, I don't recall Watson being easily disposed of in one on one contests in previous seasons. But there may be an explanation.

Quote from: LP on March 31, 2014, 11:07:41 am

Quote from: Brettie on March 31, 2014, 10:22:32 am

Spot on EB.....exactly my thoughts. I went to the Port game thinking Watson had improved immeasurebly, left that game thinking the opposite. He was putrid.

My concern here is that this says more about the change in fitness staff and less about the player, I don't recall Watson being easily disposed of in one on one contests in previous seasons. But there may be an explanation.

If you don't recall those occasions I suggest you get tested for early-onset Alzheimer's .

Quote from: cimm1979 on March 31, 2014, 11:44:33 am

Quote from: LP on March 31, 2014, 11:07:41 am

Quote from: Brettie on March 31, 2014, 10:22:32 am

Spot on EB.....exactly my thoughts. I went to the Port game thinking Watson had improved immeasurebly, left that game thinking the opposite. He was putrid.

My concern here is that this says more about the change in fitness staff and less about the player, I don't recall Watson being easily disposed of in one on one contests in previous seasons. But there may be an explanation.

If you don't recall those occasions I suggest you get tested for early-onset Alzheimer's .

Pretty sure Cloke left him for dead a while back.

Now, on different matters, the game against the Bombers this week.  I believe we will get the win.

Essendon have been good thus far.  Very good.  Too good.  They are not that good.  They have unearthed these kids that are playing footy first up and putting in match winning performances.  Not a good look for the competition given they are surrounded by blokes that shouldnt be playing and with crowd numbers the way they are, the AFL would be desperate for the Blues to get their season underway.  I think we will get an armchair ride from the umps this week and are going to be a lot better than everyone thinks we will be.  We are in our 150th year, and ten years ago, the AFL gave us the biggest sanctions in history.  We sit here struggling and flailing rudderless 10 years later, and celebrating a milestone with the only thing we have to celebrate?  2 finals victories.

I have a feeling that the AFL will be desperate for us to win this week.  Ryder going down hurt, leaving them with Daniher and no one else as support ruck, a host of players getting their first few matches of AFL football, and although they gave a good effort against the Hawks, by the end of the game, I thought I saw a few of the Bombers players starting to look a bit tired and worn down.

I had this down as a loss last week, but they just came up against a team that prides itself on contesting and they beat each other up a bit.

Its going to be a close one, and I cannot guarantee the result, but we need this win so much more than the Bombers do right now.  They just need to continue being "Brave".

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on March 30, 2014, 03:35:36 pm

Quote from: denimundies on March 30, 2014, 01:15:45 pm

Ive changed my view on Watson over last few months. I think he'll be a good player.

I thought that too until he played a shocker vs Port....his lack of body on body work for a bloke his size is terrible, his U18 rebounding ability hid his lack of defensive ability
and its back to basics to get him up to speed and that could be a couple of years away..

Spot on EB.....exactly my thoughts. I went to the Port game thinking Watson had improved immeasurebly, left that game thinking the opposite. He was putrid.

Quote from: LP on March 30, 2014, 12:33:30 pm

Watson is not slower than Rowe.

Watson's decision making when he doesn't have the ball makes him look slow. He has surprisingly good closing speed when he commits. He is OK with the ball, and he gets a little better without the ball every passing game.

Watson IS slower than Rowe and possibly everyone else on the team - including Brock.

Watson's decision making when he doesn't have the ball makes him look slow. He always looks slower than his opponent - even when he is a loose man.

He has surprisingly good closing speed when he commits. When has anyone seen him commit? That's another reason why I prefer just about anyone else.

Quote from: Brettie on March 31, 2014, 10:22:32 am

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on March 30, 2014, 03:35:36 pm

Quote from: denimundies on March 30, 2014, 01:15:45 pm

Ive changed my view on Watson over last few months. I think he'll be a good player.

I thought that too until he played a shocker vs Port....his lack of body on body work for a bloke his size is terrible, his U18 rebounding ability hid his lack of defensive ability
and its back to basics to get him up to speed and that could be a couple of years away..

Spot on EB.....exactly my thoughts. I went to the Port game thinking Watson had improved immeasurebly, left that game thinking the opposite. He was putrid.

Probably the only bad game though he's played and seems like he might've had an injury. They're all putrid at some stage of their careers.

If you thought he had imrproved, and i'm sure  you wouldn't have been imagining it, then you can't just suddenly write him off after one game.

Pretty sure Cloke left him for dead a while back.

I have a feeling that the AFL will be desperate for us to win this week.  Ryder going down hurt, leaving them with Daniher and no one else as support ruck, a host of players getting their first few matches of AFL football, and although they gave a good effort against the Hawks, by the end of the game, I thought I saw a few of the Bombers players starting to look a bit tired and worn down.