Carlton Supporters Club

These past and present comparisons are fraught with danger, the game has changed so much since 2010 it's almost like watching a different sport! So, I'm not sure there is a great relevance to these comparisons.

Bolton has sacrificed our attacking game in order to shore up the defense. That sacrifice has occurred both in terms of recruiting and also in terms of game plan, which essentially revolves around flooding, spare man back, parking the bus etc. This mitigates against any real attacking moves, and is one reason why we get run over in final quarters - players are too stuffed playing a taxing game plan. Of course, the relative youth of some of our troops plays a part as well. I expect that as they get older and more experienced, the last quarter fade outs will hopefully cease.

The point I make is completely valid - you can't pot one coach for being poor defensively, when his record is more than comparable to that of a defense first coach.

you seem to neglect available cattle to the respective coaches. Bolton coaches to the lists strengths. If He didnt play with spinners off half back, we'd be annihilated .
Like i said, to be fair. Bolton doesn't  have the talent of waite, betts and garlett at his disposal. Even only Betts in today's line up would have us entrenched in the 8. Im not worried, as i believe it will come and when it does, it will be sustained

you seem to neglect available cattle to the respective coaches. Bolton coaches to the lists strengths. If He didnt play with spinners off half back, we'd be annihilated .
Like i said, to be fair. Bolton doesn't  have the talent of waite, betts and garlett at his disposal. Even only Betts in today's line up would have us entrenched in the 8. Im not worried, as i believe it will come and when it does, it will be sustained

We are 2nd last for forward entries last time I checked......Betts, Jeffy and Waite would be going cold waiting for the ball...
Our midfield is a tad overrated...

you seem to neglect available cattle to the respective coaches. Bolton coaches to the lists strengths. If He didnt play with spinners off half back, we'd be annihilated .
Like i said, to be fair. Bolton doesn't  have the talent of waite, betts and garlett at his disposal. Even only Betts in today's line up would have us entrenched in the 8. Im not worried, as i believe it will come and when it does, it will be sustained

We are 2nd last for forward entries last time I checked......Betts, Jeffy and Waite would be going cold waiting for the ball...
Our midfield is a tad overrated...

It's funny - I'd say Kreuzer and Gibbs are almost on AA pace and Cripps is going well. Murphy isn't going badly either.

So how is our midfield so underpowered? I guess you've got to look at the depth midfielders and the wings and flanks where we're definitely light on for real top end quality.

It's funny - I'd say Kreuzer and Gibbs are almost on AA pace and Cripps is going well. Murphy isn't going badly either.

So how is our midfield so underpowered? I guess you've got to look at the depth midfielders and the wings and flanks where we're definitely light on for real top end quality.

Kreuzer, Murphy, Gibbs and Cripps are right up there and Ed Curnow is pretty good.  However, the quality drops away after that.  When the second tier midfielders/small forwards struggle to get 40 possessions between them, the added pressure on our first tier players is enormous.  I think that many folk fail to appreciate how hard Murphy, Gibbs and Cripps have to work, and it would be an awful lot harder without Kreuzer's second and third efforts.