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Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG

Reply #60 –
Agree with you DJC.....Kemp runs with Cameron if he's up around the wings etc and then hopefully Young can just spoil like he does when it goes deeper.

Fingers crossed on Weitering though.....I think Durdin will be exposed for lack of games at this level.

Geelong backline looks a bit bare too though without Stewart and our height could be a worry. If we get it on our terms like we did last week just before half time I think we can win it.

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG

Reply #61 –
Quote from: DJC on
We did OK with Weitering missing at the start of the season.

As good as Hawkins is, he does rely on players up the ground and, if we can get on top, he can be starved of opportunities.

Cameron is a different kettle of fish with his ability to win the ball and create opportunities up the ground.  While it's not an ideal match up, Young is probably best able to go with him.  Alternatively, Kemp runs with Cameron when he plays up the ground and Weitering or Young pick him up inside 50.

Vossy seems very confident that both Williams and Weitering will play.
Agree...think the only way to negate the Cats forwards is not to let the ball get down there end too often, its a very talented forward line with good variety and no obvious matchup for Cameron imho.
Young on Hawkins would worry me more than Kemp on Cameron.....this is a game where McGovern providing that second man up or having the ability to run with Cameron will be missed....never thought I would say we would miss McGovern but its credit too him he has become a key cog in how our defense works.

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG

Reply #62 –
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We are drifting out in the betting - I wonder if someone knows something......
the betting odds are an indication only of what the public think.  More people are backing in Geelong but that doesn't mean much.  They've been a dominant side of the comp for along time and many pundits arent convinces about us.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
 

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG

Reply #63 –
We need to keep a close eye on Myers.  I'd run Cottrell on him and make him accountable.  Maybe put Acres on Cameron and make Cameron gut run up and down all day.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG

Reply #64 –
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The Handbaggers have 4 players on their injury list? WTF?
We have enough to populate a small town.
Something is in the water somewhere  :o

For the best part of the last 6yrs or so, this degree of discrepancy has been common. Lions, Adelaide, Tigers are a few that come to mind with few injuries.
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Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG

Reply #65 –
Quote from: Professer E on
We need to keep a close eye on Myers.  I'd run Cottrell on him and make him accountable.  Maybe put Acres on Cameron and make Cameron gut run up and down all day.
I reckon Cameron could gut run toe to toe with Acres all day long. He has a massive tank but I agree would be a good match up.
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Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG

Reply #66 –
Quote from: Professer E on
We need to keep a close eye on Myers.  I'd run Cottrell on him and make him accountable.  Maybe put Acres on Cameron and make Cameron gut run up and down all day.

Cameron would take Acres forward and exploit his height advantage.  You have to play a key defender on Cameron or tag team him.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG

Reply #67 –
Quote from: Professer E on
We need to keep a close eye on Myers.  I'd run Cottrell on him and make him accountable.  Maybe put Acres on Cameron and make Cameron gut run up and down all day.
No Saad is going to make it difficult with Stengle too, maybe Boyd gets the job although I'd like Boyd for Myers.
Where ever you look they have dangerous forwards , a couple that go under the radar are Close and Henry.

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG

Reply #68 –
The Cats win games by field position - they're the best in the AFL at it.  Myers, Stewart and Cameron are the link/set up men.  Control them and we beat this mob.  Stewart is absent but we don't have a tall defender to go with Cameron.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG

Reply #69 –
Quote from: Professer E on
The Cats win games by field position - they're the best in the AFL at it.  Myers, Stewart and Cameron are the link/set up men.  Control them and we beat this mob.  Stewart is absent but we don't have a tall defender to go with Cameron.

Stewart is Geelong’s most important player and they can’t cover his loss.  That has repercussions for them all over the ground.

We didn’t have a tall defender to go with Cameron last season and he kicked 6.1 … but we still won.  Vossy and his mates will have cooked up something for Cameron.  In fact, I reckon Scott has a lot more to worry about than Vossy.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG

Reply #70 –
The Age has a two-page preview of today's game, padded out slightly by a puff-piece on the the De Koning brothers' rivalry.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/cameron-or-curnow-it-s-the-biggest-cats-blues-clash-since-the-1995-grand-final-20240424-p5fm7n.html

They are billing it as the biggest Geelong- Carlton game since the 1995 grand final.  And the conclusion; "If you need a prediction, it’s this: Carlton will be too strong around the ball in the end."  I think that's pretty well spot on.

For good measure there's most of another page devoted to an interview with Brian Cook in an article titled, "Billionaires and business deals: The money machine delivering big benefits to the Blues."

Cook starts with, “The true uniqueness I found, in comparison [with Geelong], was just the passion of its supporter base at Carlton – its width, its depth, its tentacles where they spread.”

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/billionaires-and-business-deals-the-money-machine-delivering-big-benefits-to-the-blues-20240425-p5fmj9.html

The AFL must be rapt that we're back as a serious competitor.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG

Reply #71 –
Quote from: DJC on
Stewart is Geelong’s most important player and they can’t cover his loss.  That has repercussions for them all over the ground.
It depends on the innovation of the Handbagger MC.

It's a fatal mistake to assume a team is crippled by the absence of a single player, many of our own fans said as much about us in the early season absence of Weiters.

A forced change like Stewart going out can cause an MC to become inventive, inventive potentially means a new tactic that opponents have not seen before, and that can be deadly for the opponent if they go into a game unprepared to adapt.

Always respect opponents, and be prepared to adapt.
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Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG

Reply #72 –
Quote from: LP on
It depends on the innovation of the Handbagger MC.

It's a fatal mistake to assume a team is crippled by the absence of a single player, many of our own fans said as much about us in the early season absence of Weiters.

A forced change like Stewart going out can cause an MC to become inventive, inventive potentially means a new tactic that opponents have not seen before, and that can be deadly for the opponent if they go into a game unprepared to adapt.

Always respect opponents, and be prepared to adapt.

That was my point LP; Stewart's absence will force Geelong's MC to make changes and/or play a different game style.  They will try to use Tuohy in the loose man role but he normally relies on Stewart to create his opportunities.  Zac Guthrie will also be trying to cover Stewart's absence but Stewart is more difficult to cover than any of their other defenders, or ours too for that matter.

Geelong turnover game is off the scale this season and they average just over 9 goals per game from turnovers, largely due to Stewart's work.  Their turnover game was still effective against the Lions after Stewart went off but today's game won't be in torrential rain and against a flakey opponent.  Look for them to set up differently behind the ball and that may very well play into our hands with Charlie, Harry and Tom looking to spread their defence and isolate Charlie as much as possible.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG

Reply #73 –
Really want to win this one, puts up back on the first line of results and it means that every team has lost a game. If we get rolled, then we will be two games off top spot and that may be a bridge too far to jump across the season.
"The Other Teams Can Rot In Hell"

Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong at the MCG

Reply #74 –
No Binns, S. Durdin or Cincotta in the twos so some likely changes....