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Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 In Game Angst Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #30 –
Quote from: Lods on
We're a team of 'showponies'
When the going gets tough we just disappear.

That's one of the reasons I'm not a fan of these flashy starts because were always at risk of the momentum change.
And once that's lost it is very hard to get it back...almost impossible to the level we played at in the first quarter.

These aren't the traits of a serious finals team.

Nothing wrong with the flashy starts.

You just need to weather the storm when you lose the momentum.
Ideally you have a flashy middle, followed by a flashy end......but we can't play North Melbourne every week.

The ability to score quickly is a string to our bow, and it helps us when we are all but out of games. Sometimes its almost unfortunate that we do so well straight out of the gate, rather than in the last quarter to put it beyond a doubt, but its better than not doing it at all.

When people make comments like this it makes me look back to 12 months ago. As soon as you see where we were, and then you look at where we are.....i find it hard to get too upset.
This year was always going to be a transition year of sorts, we are WELL ahead of schedule.
So sure, we are not odds on flag favourites and still have a bit to learn.....but did you expect otherwise?

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 In Game Angst Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #31 –
Is the wind blowing one way? 

I get the idea the ball is holding up, and the bulk of the scoring is happening in the direction we are kicking now.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 In Game Angst Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #32 –
Plowman strikes again. And again.

Shanks kicks missed tackles. This bloke just keeps on giving.

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 In Game Angst Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #33 –
Sorry to all the Plowman fans but he possibly h the worst footballer I have ever seen

My god

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 In Game Angst Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #34 –
Quote from: shawny on
Plowman strikes again. And again.

Shanks kicks missed tackles. This bloke just keeps on giving.
Got a few mates out there today
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 In Game Angst Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #35 –
This is why we aren't contenders.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 In Game Angst Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #36 –
Plowman omg! Absolute zero awareness.

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 In Game Angst Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #37 –
Nic Nat schooling TDK.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 In Game Angst Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #38 –
Plowman just keeps on giving

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 In Game Angst Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #39 –
Don't know how much longer I can watch this.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 In Game Angst Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #40 –
Plowman has officially lost the plot today. Nearly killed Hewitt

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 In Game Angst Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #41 –
Quote from: kruddler on
Nothing wrong with the flashy starts.

You just need to weather the storm when you lose the momentum.
Ideally you have a flashy middle, followed by a flashy end......but we can't play North Melbourne every week.

The ability to score quickly is a string to our bow, and it helps us when we are all but out of games. Sometimes its almost unfortunate that we do so well straight out of the gate, rather than in the last quarter to put it beyond a doubt, but its better than not doing it at all.

When people make comments like this it makes me look back to 12 months ago. As soon as you see where we were, and then you look at where we are.....i find it hard to get too upset.
This year was always going to be a transition year of sorts, we are WELL ahead of schedule.
So sure, we are not odds on flag favourites and still have a bit to learn.....but did you expect otherwise?


I've no problem with where we are in terms of improvement.
It's dramatic.
We should probably play finals...even if we lose this one.
I'd back us to win a couple of those we're not necessarily expected to win.
But we're just not ready to progress too far.

The problem with the flashy starts is that it has the effect of giving the players a sense that it's all pretty easy.
When the inevitable pressure comes we're too slow to counter it.
You even picked it.
I did too.
Don't get carried away with sensational first quarters.
There is too long in the match to go,

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 In Game Angst Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #42 –
We might be playing in WA but this game is Melbourne to a T: each quarter has been a different season and we can only wonder what the 4th quarter will bring.

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 In Game Angst Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #43 –
Game over..

Re: AFL Rd 17 2022 In Game Angst Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #44 –
Quote from: Lods on
I've no problem with where we are in terms of improvement.
It's dramatic.
We should probably play finals...even if we lose this one.
I'd back us to win a couple of those we're not necessarily expected to win.
But we're just not ready to progress too far.

The problem with the flashy starts is that it has the effect of giving the players a sense that it's all pretty easy.
When the inevitable pressure comes we're too slow to counter it.
You even picked it.
I did too.
Don't get carried away with sensational first quarters.
There is too long in the match to go,

I picked it because we WERE dominant. No team, i don't care who you are, can be that dominant for a full 120minutes of football in the modern age.
Same can be said on the flip side for West Coast. No team can be dominated that much for a full 120 minutes.

Its like your favourite saying, its never as good, or as bad, as it appears to be.

That being said, i'm just happy that we can actually BE dominant, even if its only for 1/4.

We haven't beaten this mob for 8 years. We are playing them basically at full strength, on their home deck, while we are far from full strength.

The flashy starts at least show something. Vossy will (eventually) drill into them that all that means is that the tide is about to turn and to 'double your efforts' from here to keep the same kind of pressure.