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Ladies Lounge / Re: VFLW starts this weekend
To answer my own question, yes she has - it is on the club website.  Interestingly clubs can rejig their lists up to 10 times across the course of the season.  I suspect this is to allow for AFLW players to have part of the season off and come in and out as well as trial code-hoppers youngsters and the like.  That would make sense.
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Ladies Lounge / Re: VFLW starts this weekend
Quote from: kruddler on
Ah, i get ya...
http://vfl.com.au/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2018/05/2018-Swisse-Wellness-VFL-Womens-lists.pdf

There's a few players who are AWOL.

Loynes and Harris to name a couple.

Looks like we do have a complete set of twins though. 2 Moodys, the 'new' one, Celine Moody, is 6cm taller than our current ruck Breann Moody.

Has Celine joined up since the lists were announced?  She isn't on the list of VFLW players on the club website (the list Crash has posted earlier in this thread) nor on our AFLW list.  BTW I am guessing the B Kennedy in the BP is Bridie, so she should be coloured green - if it isn't her that's another on neither list.  Likewise Schultz the 23rd player, but that may well be the nature of the 23rd player in this league (I don't know but it would make sense).

In terms of girls who are AWOL  a number of the players havent had a break for 2 years now - VFLW 2016, up the intensity to AFLW level training, AFLW 2017, VFLW 2017, AFLW 2018 pre-season and season - it's no wonder a number of players AFLW across the comp are either not playing VFLW this year or not the full season anyway - Daisy Pearce is an example.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2018 Rd 7: Pre Game Paranoia: Carlton vs Adelaide
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
Sadly I think this true. He is becoming a liability in the backline with his poor disposal, turns it over more often than not. His endeavour, putting his body on the line and commitment remains elite, perhaps a fwd role would better suit him?

It might well do, but that raises the question who replaces him in the back half.  Whoever it is, short of a Docherty medical miracle, won't help the inexperienced oversized back line improve.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2018 VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Port Melbourne
Quote from: LoveNavy on
I'm with you on Graham. Good vfl player with a great attitude. Unfortunately that's not enough in this era.

x 3.

In that side the guys who I would have thought might have aspirations of getting a call-up to the firsts next week on the back of a good game are:

Cuningham - he has pace
Macreadie - he's not O'Shea
Shaw - he's not Mullett
Lang - he's AFL quality
Garlett - all the above but he needs to show some intensity
Kerr - probably neither ready nor the modern footballer nor what we need up forward, but (and it pans me to say this) "he's not JSOS"
Lamb - at least knows what defensive pressure is as a small forward
Le Bois - quick, defensive pressure, in good run of form (for the first time)
Graham - mature body but slow and not the future
Polson - has pace but looked well off AFL quality when given the chance earlier this year
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2018 Rd 6: Pre Game Paranoia: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Quote from: LP on
All depends upon the game plan! ;)

Who said that we have to do like for like?

No-one says we have to do like for like - but when we seem already to be taller and slower than them, on Etihad and at night why do we go taller and slower?

Quote from: DJC on
Perhaps the MC considered creating difficult match ups for the Doggies ...

Sound point, but what match-uo difficulties in particular?  I get going tall up forward gives us a height advantage, but the risk is if marks aren't taken (and on recent history they usually aren't) that opens up the Doggies chance to run from defence against our taller & slower forwards.  To my mind a risky strategy and not one I am overly keen on. But what is worse is that instead we seem to have loaded up on key defenders against a team that has ONE key forward.  We may well have them massively outgunned in the air in our defence but what if they don't bomb it in but instead lower the eyes?  At ground level and on the lead we risk being cut up badly with that line-up.

Anyway that is my amateur observers 2 cents worth, I certainly hope to be proved wrong.    
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2018 Rd 6: Pre Game Paranoia: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Puzzling selections.  We have been too tall generally this year, Dogs are a small side with pace, so we bring in a key defender meaning we have 3 (4 if you count O'Shea - BTW how does he keep his place in the side?) to choose to play against their single key forward and a slower mid and drop one of our quicker players and our best defensive forward, admittedly both players who have been performing poorly.

Who stops JJ's run from half back?  Who do 2 of Rowe/Jones/Marchbank pick up?  Who gets Bontempelli if he plays forward? 

Team balance worries me.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2018 Rd 3: Post Game Platitudes: Carlton vs Collingwood
Quote from: shawny on
x2.

Your Jones description is spot on - was at last nights game and he looked confused when deciding between sticking on his man or leaving to attack a ball he thinks he can kill. I like his desire and efforts but those decisions cost us more goals then it saved last night unfortunately.
 
Its bloody hard to watch as our back 6 was one strength from the Bolton era and in a flash it seems to have turned to a shambles by what the club says is us trying to be more offensive and we need to get the balance right. Seems like poor coaching if in an attempt to score more you then lose your one strength.

Or is it simply a case of losing Doc which has hurt us more then we imagined?

 

How about a defence of

DOCHERTY              ROWE                 MACREADIE

WILLIAMSON          A SILVAGNI         BYRNE

- all unavailable (including coming back in the 2s) last night.  One of the consequences is we end up with an unbalanced overly tall and slow backline.  Add Weitering struggling for form and Jones being caught in 2 minds constantly- for which I blame the coaches not him - and it adds up to a struggling defence.  Mullett so far has been ordinary (not worse than that in my view)but gives a much needed big body.  Similar to why it made sense to draft O'Shea and rookie Shaw - we need that experience base and funnily enough opposing teams don't give away too many top liners.

The bigger concern to me is the midfield (admittedly we do have a couple of injuries there and Kennedy and Kreuzer seemed restricted last night) and more so the forward line having zero and I mean zero ability to put pressure on the opponent.  We couldn't chase them hard enough to put them under even perceived pressure let alone catch someone and our tackling is putrid.  No wonder the defence gets carved up when the ball comes in that easy (on top of its own woes).

FFS find someone ready willing and able to chase and lay a tackle even if they don't give much offensively.  The problem is the cupboard seems pretty bare - Kerridge maybe, Nick Graham tries hard, but neither really AFL quality in my mind.  Might Shaw be worth a look?  I say reward whoever stands up for the 2s - we know we have got the dead wood to drop.
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Ladies Lounge / Re: 2016 Women's Draftees
Katie Loynes inside mid from Diamond Creek - about 27 yo

Natalie Plane is an awesome all round sportswoman - under-18 state level quick bowler and Cricket Australia indigenous scholarship holder, also plays soccer and netball. 

Rebecca Privitelli plays for Eastern Devils having left Darebin in search of more opportunity, 21 yo 170 cm solid defender.

Kate Darby is one I don't know.