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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by madbluboy -
Not sure what you expect from Fantasia. We only had 38 inside 50s and had 12 goals from it which is a good return.

Say you swap Martin for Fantasia last week. Jack might kick 2 but Owies might only get 1. Jack might be too gassed to chase his man meaning others have to leave theirs. Collingwood score more.

Not everyone forward is going to get lots of the ball and kick goals.

We didn't lose because of Orazio.

We lost because Collingwood had a plan.

They blocked Cripps at every stoppage. They showed this on the Sunday footy show.

David King showed how they dragged Weitering out of the play. Even showed him being held on the ground for just long enough do he couldn't get back to help his defenders.


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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by pinot -
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Let's not kid ourselves, Moir is 10,000 miles off. Needs a heap of development in so many areas and is being given time to do that. Fast tracking our high draft picks is 'old Carlton' done in desperation in the past (a small number of exceptions) and ruined a number of careers.

Surely Moir can do what Fantasia does? Even I can.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Domestic violence and why the government will struggle to attention the problem.
Last post by Baggers -
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Thank you guys for your kind thoughts.

I will do my best to answer any questions. Give me a little time to collect my thoughts please. I am In the process of selling my house. My deepest apologies.

Nothing to apologize for, Green Stick. Sharing your trauma/pain with us is gutsy stuff, mate. And healing. You know I work in mental health... never hesitate to PM me for a chin wag. It would be a privilege to support you in any way I can.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by townsendcalling -
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I'll go even deeper - Moir has had a tough run in the VFL in a very weak team limited with opportunity. He should be sub instead of Fantasia.

Let's not kid ourselves, Moir is 10,000 miles off. Needs a heap of development in so many areas and is being given time to do that. Fast tracking our high draft picks is 'old Carlton' done in desperation in the past (a small number of exceptions) and ruined a number of careers.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by northernblue -
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“Resting” Zac won’t improve his ability to stay on the park.  He was subbed off for a corked calf one week and a corked glute the next week.  Two impact injuries or Zac’s body saying enough is enough?

If we were to “manage” Zac, who comes into the team, Billy Wilson?  Perhaps we could play Kennedy in defence and bring back Carroll?

Our situation is nothing like Geelong’s.  They have almost a full list to pick from and half a dozen veterans who can benefit from an occasional spell.  We have half a dozen players who probably aren’t up to the demands of AFL, several other injured players and no veterans who need an occasional spell.

Tend to agree, to rest players you need to have someone worthwhile to promote, not sure if we have that.
A fully fit list on the other hand would open up options…
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by DJC -
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OK, let me use real world examples to help push the point across.

Zac Williams. Long injury history.
2 weeks ago he was injured in the game and subbed out.
He was picked last week.
He got injured again.
Now vossy is saying he'll be right for this week.

Why?

We keep pushing and pushing and we'll eventually break him again. You could argue that if we rested him last week the result would've been different. Do we need to say the same thing after this week?
Rest him!

“Resting” Zac won’t improve his ability to stay on the park.  He was subbed off for a corked calf one week and a corked glute the next week.  Two impact injuries or Zac’s body saying enough is enough?

If we were to “manage” Zac, who comes into the team, Billy Wilson?  Perhaps we could play Kennedy in defence and bring back Carroll?

Our situation is nothing like Geelong’s.  They have almost a full list to pick from and half a dozen veterans who can benefit from an occasional spell.  We have half a dozen players who probably aren’t up to the demands of AFL, several other injured players and no veterans who need an occasional spell.