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Title: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: townsendcalling on May 28, 2017, 07:58:38 pm
10 youngsters in a team that was 40+ points down at one stage but came back and hit the lead.

I'm sure there were plenty of green shoots in the disappointing wash-up.

Choose ONE ONLY Green Shoot you observed from the game.  Can be a player, passage of play and individual effort, any ONE Shoot that put a smile ???? on your face.
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: maxm68 on May 28, 2017, 08:00:01 pm
we kicked 15 goals
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: LP on May 28, 2017, 08:01:48 pm
we kicked 15 goals

And we did it without needing to play Weitering forward! ;)
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: PaulP on May 28, 2017, 08:06:05 pm
After being 7 goals down, the fact that the coaches and players were able to adjust, change things up, and get us right back in the contest, meaning we dominated and outscored them for 2 1/2 quarters. Not sure that would've happened in recent times past.
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 28, 2017, 08:09:32 pm
Cunningham is my green shoot this week , competed well including 2nd efforts and a couple of goals were some nice reward for his efforts...
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: bigblue on May 28, 2017, 08:09:55 pm
I thought that when we were 43 pts down.... it was C Curnow who stood up and single handedly started the fightback.
Is getting better week by week. In a game where our senior players will be all the rage with regards to the votes..... it was C Curnow who imo stopped the rot and started the ball rolling in our favour.
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: DJC on May 28, 2017, 08:15:13 pm
David Cuningham for me.  He really looked like he belonged out there and was composed with the ball in his hands.  His first goal at AFL level was a ripper and he followed it up with another  :)
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: maxm68 on May 28, 2017, 08:18:35 pm
I thought that when we were 43 pts down.... it was C Curnow who stood up and single handedly started the fightback.
Is getting better week by week. In a game where our senior players will be all the rage with regards to the votes..... it was C Curnow who imo stopped the rot and started the ball rolling in our favour.

When he puts on a bit more muscle look out... he could be anything this kid... I'm liking him a lot.
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 28, 2017, 08:20:24 pm
I thought that when we were 43 pts down.... it was C Curnow who stood up and single handedly started the fightback.
Is getting better week by week. In a game where our senior players will be all the rage with regards to the votes..... it was C Curnow who imo stopped the rot and started the ball rolling in our favour.

One of Charlies best games I agree and he is an exciting player for the future, in the end, went for DC as he is a greener shoot than CC IMO.. I think I already view CC as a established player and expect a bit more from him than the other kids which is probably being unfair..
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: sandsmere on May 28, 2017, 08:23:51 pm
Cuningham.

The best game he's played for us. And I reckon there's a lot more to come.
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Baggers on May 28, 2017, 08:31:04 pm
Charlie Curnow by a country mile. When hardness and intensity were required it was Charlie (along with Gibbs and Kreuz who led the way (supported by strong efforts from defense)).
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: LoveNavy on May 28, 2017, 10:18:16 pm
SOJ having the strength, confidence, and arrogance to fight off a Zeibell tackle (near the boundary, can't recall which q).
Onya Jack. That's the spirit son ;D
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Micky0 on May 28, 2017, 10:18:23 pm
I liked Cunningham, loved that he backed himself and went for it
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: LoveNavy on May 28, 2017, 10:39:52 pm
95 tackles
Won the clearances, and hard ball gets. Gutsy.
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 28, 2017, 10:58:35 pm
Didnt realise how much zip DC has, played well today. Was my green shoot, CC is a sapling already, he'll be an oak tree by this time next year if he keeps going like this.
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Thryleon on May 28, 2017, 11:33:28 pm
That 3/4 and struggling to figure out who was our best.

Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: cimm1979 on May 28, 2017, 11:37:51 pm
4/4 Curnow.

In everything from deep FF to centre.

This guy is going to redefine the role of KPF.
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: townsendcalling on May 29, 2017, 12:25:38 am
Curnow by a short half head to Cunningham. Both influenced the game in different ways. When Charlie actually holds more than he drops, sit back and enjoy the ride!!
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: cookie2 on May 29, 2017, 08:05:44 am
Loved what I saw from Charlie, a great competitor. Also encouraged by  Cunningham's efforts. He needs more senior game time now imo.
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: blueday on May 29, 2017, 08:30:05 am
From my wonderful seats on top of ES it was interesting to note the entirely different forward structure that Bolton applied from the 2nd qtr. I left thinking that this radical change contributed heavily to the change in momentum.

Pushing all but two forwards onto the wings and halfback, left North defenders looking at each other or guarding space. Clearly planned as our clearances, when possible were done on the 45 to one of the two forwards in place. Our structure was not working, he changed it and the team responded.

This is a Green Shoot!
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: shawny on May 29, 2017, 08:50:42 am
From my wonderful seats on top of ES it was interesting to note the entirely different forward structure that Bolton applied from the 2nd qtr. I left thinking that this radical change contributed heavily to the change in momentum.

Pushing all but two forwards onto the wings and halfback, left North defenders looking at each other or guarding space. Clearly planned as our clearances, when possible were done on the 45 to one of the two forwards in place. Our structure was not working, he changed it and the team responded.

This is itself is a Green Shoot!

100% AGREE!!

I was saying to my daughter what the hell are we setting up like this....was scratching my head thinking we now have no chance to kick a winning score with only 2 on the F50 line and no one else forward.  Looked wrong.

Then to my amazement in the following 2 1/2 quarters we kicked 13 goals!

Definitely BB is not afraid to mix it up if the game is slipping.

Great coaching Bolts. 

 
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: townsendcalling on May 29, 2017, 12:02:30 pm
100% AGREE!!

I was saying to my daughter what the hell are setting up like this....was scratching my head thinking we now have no change to kick a winning score with only 2 on the F50 line and no one else forward.  Looked wrong.

Then to my amazement in the following 2 1/2 quarters we kicked 13 goals!

Definitely BB is not afraid to mix it up if the game is slipping.

Great coaching Bolts.

x2
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: bratblue on May 29, 2017, 01:01:11 pm
I'll go with CC because he's so exciting.  You look at his build then imagine how he will be after a few more seasons. He'll be one tough hombre marking as much as Kouta and just as difficult for the opposition to man up.
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: townsendcalling on May 29, 2017, 02:01:30 pm
I'll go with CC because he's so exciting.  You look at his build then imagine how he will be after a few more seasons. He'll be one tough hombre marking as much as Kouta and just as difficult for the opposition to man up.

Is it wrong to suggest we get a few of the young draftee guns to have a beer before draft day, so the 'holier than thous' are put off :)??  A class kid who made 1 mistake.....much to our advantage!!!
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: PaulP on May 29, 2017, 04:11:59 pm
Is it wrong to suggest we get a few of the young draftee guns to have a beer before draft day, so the 'holier than thous' are put off :)??  A class kid who made 1 mistake.....much to our advantage!!!

Jokes aside - don't underestimate the influence of the older brother who is a very solid, trouble free citizen. Reckon Ed would be of great value helping the younger one stay out of trouble.

We might not get lucky twice.
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: malo on May 29, 2017, 04:13:23 pm
A couple of very small things out of a large game...but

1:  Jack Silvagni wrestling out of a decent Ziebell tackle with just sheer lower body strength, throwing him to the ground & running away......never mind the scrubby left foot kick into the forward line after that......I loved that bit of play.

2. In the last, Tom Williamson latching onto a contested mark on the edge of the square with 1 hand, completely wrong footing his opponent & running to just outside 50 to launch a shot for goal......never mind that it missed by a whisker.......I loved that as well.

cheers

Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Jofo on May 29, 2017, 04:50:45 pm
A lot of manure in the first quarter and a half but everyone knows, manure will produce green shoots eventually. My two shoots were the performances of Charlie Curnow and Cunningham.
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: townsendcalling on May 29, 2017, 04:54:05 pm

2. In the last, Tom Williamson latching onto a contested mark on the edge of the square with 1 hand, completely wrong footing his opponent & running to just outside 50 to launch a shot for goal......never mind that it missed by a whisker.......I loved that as well.


Would have been a landslide 'green shoot' if it had landed. You just get the feeling we will see one get the 6 points before the end of the year!!
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Jofo on May 29, 2017, 05:02:33 pm
Would have been a landslide 'green shoot' if it had landed. You just get the feeling we will see one get the 6 points before the end of the year!!

I thought Williamson and Mcreadie were very good in patches. They're certainly two gems with a bright future.
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: kruddler on May 29, 2017, 05:53:50 pm
Jacks stiff arm/shrug which threw his opponent to the ground.  >:D
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: thrunthrublu on May 29, 2017, 06:21:35 pm
Tom Williamson for some reason reminds me of the very best version of simon beaumont
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: NudeNut on May 29, 2017, 08:35:14 pm
Bolts coaching by changing it up and starting each center bounce with an 8 man backline and the players ability to adjust to that so quickly and make it work. Leaders really stepped up to direct traffic out on the field. Got us back in to the match.
Usually sit on the wing but for some reason we decided to sit behind the goals this week and had a great view of it.
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Professer E on May 29, 2017, 10:09:04 pm
Thru, I'm glad you spotted the Williamson-Beaumont doppelganger thing, might be the hair cut/sideys and clean cut look, but gees they look similar, except for the bandy legs.  Beauy was master of the long, scudding helicopter, pleased Willo has him covered in the kicking department.
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 29, 2017, 11:15:39 pm
Thru, I'm glad you spotted the Williamson-Beaumont doppelganger thing, might be the hair cut/sideys and clean cut look, but gees they look similar, except for the bandy legs.  Beauy was master of the long, scudding helicopter, pleased Willo has him covered in the kicking department.

x3 ...stands up very straight like Beaumont did at times,thankfully kicks the ball better,,,,,
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Hubba on May 30, 2017, 08:52:54 am
A couple of very small things out of a large game...but

1:  Jack Silvagni wrestling out of a decent Ziebell tackle with just sheer lower body strength, throwing him to the ground & running away......never mind the scrubby left foot kick into the forward line after that......I loved that bit of play.

2. In the last, Tom Williamson latching onto a contested mark on the edge of the square with 1 hand, completely wrong footing his opponent & running to just outside 50 to launch a shot for goal......never mind that it missed by a whisker.......I loved that as well.

cheers


Both these were certainly ' Wow ' moments in the game.
However the fact SOJ ran straight into him to start with no lateral movement was concerning.

That Williamson one hand gather and turn was extra special.  Only a very small percentage of elite players in the game can do such breath taking acts.


Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Dave on May 30, 2017, 09:51:49 am

Both these were certainly ' Wow ' moments in the game.
However the fact SOJ ran straight into him to start with no lateral movement was concerning.

That Williamson one hand gather and turn was extra special.  Only a very small percentage of elite players in the game can do such breath taking acts.

Yes, the Williamson one handed was magnificent.
I also thought some of SPS's tackles were pretty impressive, especially the one where he appeared to injure himself in the forward pocket.
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: blue4life on May 30, 2017, 12:00:32 pm
Cunningham for me showed genuine promise.
By my reckoning we have Cunningham, SPS, Weitering, Silvagni, Fisher, Williamson and Curnow from the last two drafts who all look to be a better than even money chance of becoming 100 game players, which is an outstanding result given our draft history over the last decade.
Now for the next two drafts, fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Amers on May 31, 2017, 04:01:49 pm
A couple of very small things out of a large game...but


2. In the last, Tom Williamson latching onto a contested mark on the edge of the square with 1 hand, completely wrong footing his opponent & running to just outside 50 to launch a shot for goal......never mind that it missed by a whisker.......I loved that as well.

cheers


My jaw hit the floor when I saw this, it was worth the price of admission just to see that !! A very nice little green shoot!
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: shawny on June 01, 2017, 08:12:37 am
My jaw hit the floor when I saw this, it was worth the price of admission just to see that !! A very nice little green shoot!

I was at the game, and saw that play clearly unfold from where my seats are.

Willo was about to shoot for goal when he spotted Curnow running hard, coming in from the right side point post towards the goal square - I can tell you that Willo spotted him and as he was half way thru his kick he tried to pull it to Curnow but it was too late and the ball had too much carry on it. You could see his reaction afterwards - was like he should have just had the shot.

100% sure he was in too minds and if he didn't spot Curnow that would have been a amazing goal.
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: malo on June 01, 2017, 08:58:01 am
I was at the game, and saw that play clearly unfold from where my seats are.

Willo was about to shoot for goal when he spotted Curnow running hard, coming in from the right side point post towards the goal square - I can tell you that Willo spotted him and as he was half way thru his kick he tried to pull it to Curnow but it was too late and the ball had too much carry on it. You could see his reaction afterwards - was like he should have just had the shot.

100% sure he was in too minds and if he didn't spot Curnow that would have been a amazing goal.

When he learns to trust in his skill & trust in his spot in the side......look out.
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: flyboy77 on June 01, 2017, 02:25:21 pm
One thing about the kid is that he (already) seems consistent in his output (touch wood).

Something that even SPS can't say.....
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Baggers on June 01, 2017, 04:50:01 pm
One thing about the kid is that he (already) seems consistent in his output (touch wood).

Something that even SPS can't say.....

Spot on. Thus far he's our best 1st year player for mine... takes the game on and has a deadly accurate left foot.
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: DJC on June 01, 2017, 08:40:53 pm
Spot on. Thus far he's our best 1st year player for mine... takes the game on and has a deadly accurate left foot.

Doesn't take any cr@p either  :)
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on June 01, 2017, 09:02:22 pm
Spot on. Thus far he's our best 1st year player for mine... takes the game on and has a deadly accurate left foot.

x2..Williamson is our most complete newbie in terms of skill, nous and ability to handle the extra physicality of senior footy.
Absolute bargain recruit and credit to SOS...had very little write up pre-draft and was more a rookie consideration..
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: flyboy77 on June 01, 2017, 09:17:07 pm
Almost bizarre he went so late. perhaps too many others saw him as an athlete and nothing else?

"Tom Williamson (North Ballarat Rebels, Vic Country)

A fitness freak, Williamson showed off his excellent endurance at the AFL national combine, finishing first in the agility test and second in the 3km time trial, as well as placing among the top 10 in another five tests — including the beep. At 190cm, he’s also an excellent interceptor that reads the play well off half-back."

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/the-21-latepick-bargains-clubs-must-consider-in-the-2016-afl-draft/news-story/96958c42644e00307ba7866033df0d1e

More fool them...
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: BluePhantom on June 02, 2017, 07:15:31 am
Almost bizarre he went so late. perhaps too many others saw him as an athlete and nothing else?

"Tom Williamson (North Ballarat Rebels, Vic Country)

A fitness freak, Williamson showed off his excellent endurance at the AFL national combine, finishing first in the agility test and second in the 3km time trial, as well as placing among the top 10 in another five tests — including the beep. At 190cm, he’s also an excellent interceptor that reads the play well off half-back."

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/the-21-latepick-bargains-clubs-must-consider-in-the-2016-afl-draft/news-story/96958c42644e00307ba7866033df0d1e

More fool them...
We gained 3 from those late pick bargains.
Williamson, Fisher and Lebois. All traveling nicely at the moment.
Title: Re: Round 10 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: JonHenry on June 03, 2017, 07:57:25 am
Almost bizarre he went so late. perhaps too many others saw him as an athlete and nothing else?

"Tom Williamson (North Ballarat Rebels, Vic Country)

A fitness freak, Williamson showed off his excellent endurance at the AFL national combine, finishing first in the agility test and second in the 3km time trial, as well as placing among the top 10 in another five tests — including the beep. At 190cm, he’s also an excellent interceptor that reads the play well off half-back."

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/the-21-latepick-bargains-clubs-must-consider-in-the-2016-afl-draft/news-story/96958c42644e00307ba7866033df0d1e

More fool them...

He's very young.
Born a month later and he's probably top 5 this year