Saturday 24/8/13 MCG 7.40pm
So are we any chance?
If the same Carlton rocks up, absolutely! Essendon look done, North didn't get out of second gear.
Just looking at the ladder, it's all in our hands. Win the next two games and we are in the finals!
Just looking at the ladder, it's all in our hands. Win the next two games and we are in the finals!
Not quite, freo need to beat port for us. Port are 2 games clear of us.
Just looking at the ladder, it's all in our hands. Win the next two games and we are in the finals!
Not quite, freo need to beat port for us. Port are 2 games clear of us.
Not unless VLAD sinks one 25 m directly infront
Hird on the mark
Essendon are headed to court and will makes things last for as long as possible. No, if we make it, then we need to do our bit.
In many ways, Essendon's behavior may not help us this year, but could be a God send for the next couple. If there list were to improve, as reasonable assumption, then they would be closer to a premiership in 2014 than this year. Let them lose their point next time around: it will hurt them worse.
The big question is: which Carlton will turn up? If it is the one that surrendered to the Dogs, then we deserve what we get. if it is the one that beat Richmond, then we may actually deserve to be in the finals (something I could simply not believe a few weeks ago).
Just looking at the ladder, it's all in our hands. Win the next two games and we are in the finals!
Not quite, freo need to beat port for us. Port are 2 games clear of us.
Not unless VLAD sinks one 25 m directly infront
Hird on the mark
Looking at the size of Vlad, he wouldn't make the distance
;D
Just looking at the ladder, it's all in our hands. Win the next two games and we are in the finals!
Not quite, freo need to beat port for us. Port are 2 games clear of us.
Not unless VLAD sinks one 25 m directly infront
Hird on the mark
Looking at the size of Vlad, he wouldn't make the distance
;D
Forget the Scum being kicked out of finals, the lawyers will keep them in. There tainted participation will be argued later in the year. We got our part to play the next two weeks, if Port beats Freo its over.
The Bummers will likely play finals as things look atm, unfortunately. Fortunately though they probably won't be going far, especially if they have to play an Elim.
As far as next week is concerned, I'm optimistic we can beat them after the Tigers game and I'm tossing up whether or not to go as I have a ticket. The Bummers could be dangerous IMO, in the same way as a cornered rat can be vicious, so it could be a tough one, especially since it's us! I think their ferals will be right behind them for that reason - they would love to put us out of finals contention even if they get slung out.
The Bummers will likely play finals as things look atm, unfortunately. Fortunately though they probably won't be going far, especially if they have to play an Elim.
As far as next week is concerned, I'm optimistic we can beat them after the Tigers game and I'm tossing up whether or not to go as I have a ticket. The Bummers could be dangerous IMO, in the same way as a cornered rat can be vicious, so it could be a tough one, especially since it's us! I think their ferals will be right behind them for that reason - they would love to put us out of finals contention even if they get slung out.
Agree Cookie, this game is an opportunity for us to:
1. Put the foot firmly on the throat of a wounded animal OR
2. Go into a game fat headed thinking its won before its started and get rolled.
If the team that played the WB turns up, it 2 above.
If the team that played Rich for the 3 qtrs turns up, its 1 above.
Its that simple.
Just looking at the ladder, it's all in our hands. Win the next two games and we are in the finals!
Not quite, freo need to beat port for us. Port are 2 games clear of us.
Yeah whoops was just assuming that would happen (which it should).
Saturday night is gonna be huge, we play at the same time as Port lol.
For me Bell and Robbo need to play and Robbo must be allowed to play like he played on the weekend. Bell may be limited but splitting packs in half and doing what he did to Cotchin is invaluable also I believe that it alters the mindset of opposition teams
For me Bell and Robbo need to play and Robbo must be allowed to play like he played on the weekend. Bell may be limited but splitting packs in half and doing what he did to Cotchin is invaluable also I believe that it alters the mindset of opposition teams
Those two and Casboult are the keys to Carlton getting some respect back over the next few years.
Hopefully they can all be coached and developed into very good players.
If we win and Port lose, then we get to play for our season the following week. To a certain extent, our season is in our own hands and if we are good enough we will get to play finals.
This would be great.
What a fantastic way to end the season. Whatever happens in the Finals, to get there this way would be a big step for us.
If anyone has kids in Auskick, your kid(s) would have received a ball pump in the backpack that comes with registration. It just so happens that it's an entirely plastic hand pump (including a plastic needle). That means it shouldn't be difficult to get it into the ground and it would be perfect to wave around to taunt the Bombers supporters as it has a fair resemblance to a big syringe >:D
I think the syringe thing is dead and buried, even the Scum are taking the piss out of their own side with Mexican hats a plenty!
They say humor is the best medicine, could it also be a bleach!
Personally, I am hoping for one of the greatest all time Robbo's handed out by either Robinson himself or Bell! Casboult could be another one!
Meat has confidence against the Scum and something to prove after that mark late last game. Please let him stand on Carlisle's head and snag one from the boundary!
Don't agree. The Essendon fans weren't taking the p1ss out of their own club, they were trying to treat the Mexican story and the surrounding media scrutiny as a joke. This is the co-opting strategy - take a perjorative term, name, or link and try to turn it into a positive one or a badge of honour by humour or otherwise. The name "the Untouchables" was supposedly co-opted by that squad when a crook mocked the fact they thought they were untouchable. The Wogs Out of Work shows were an example of that, gays have tried to claim Queer, women have tried to take over Chick, and even black Americans have tried to appropriate the N word. But it still cuts to the quick when those outside the particular subset use them - Jennifer Lopez found herself in trouble when she sang a rap song written by a black American who used the N word liberally in the lyrics.
Make no mistake, the Mexican hat thing was a feeble final act of defiance from the fans before their club applies the lube and bends over. It won't seem so funny to them then.
And there's no way the syringe thing will meet with mirth from the Bombers fans, any more than the wooden spoons being produced was met with laughter from Carlton fans. Who knows, they may try to act as if it isn't getting to them, but we know it will. Indeed, the only good reason not to stir them up with a few syringes would be the likelihood that it will end up in brawls.
Dyson Heppell's in doubt. He's having scans today on a foot injury which saw him subbed out on the weekend.
Kommer and another guy are also having scans.
Supposedly, Hurley's ready to come back.
Kommer and another guy are also having scans.
Hope he plays.
There's no-one more that I'd love to see get Robbo'd!!! >:D
Heppell would be a pretty big out
I recall they brought him back for the last game too
Just looking at the ladder, it's all in our hands. Win the next two games and we are in the finals!
You should check out the predictor the other result are quite obvious over the next 2 rounds assuming we make finals we could get either Richmond or Pies very happy with that outcome.
Make no mistake, the Mexican hat thing was a feeble final act of defiance from the fans before their club applies the lube and bends over. It won't seem so funny to them then.
So you are saying the ideal scenario is to turn up in a Mexican Hat covered in inflatable syringes, with a stuffed Monkey glue to your back!
PS. Should I wear giants ears with that, a stethoscope, carry a giant salad roll to much on and have a managers sign on my chest?
First time I've seen our injury list being so long this season.
Chris Judd (knee) season
Jeff Garlett (glute) test
Matthew Watson (foot) season
Shaun Hampson (knee) 1 weeks
Patrick McCarthy (foot) test
Simon White (neck) season
Andrew Carrazzo (calf) season
Matthew Kreuzer (calf) test
Jeremy Laidler (ankle) 1 week
Andrew McInnes (hip) test
I think we have lost this one already.
Our club website is already listing the Scum as "The Out-of-Form Essendon!"
FMD, one win and we are already talking ahead of the curve!
I think we have lost this one already.
Our club website is already list the Scum as "The Out-of-Form Essendon!"
FMD, one win and we are already talking ahead of the curve!
Hmm. Fark we are good at shooting our selves in the foot. The Scum supporters are dreading Sat nite, I told them to watch Bad Carlton roll up and run the prix into form. I'll lay London to a brick on it.
This is exactly the type of game we have lost for the last few years.
Hurley and Ryder back, interesting to see who comes in for us!
Actually our record vs the scum at this time of the year is immaculate! At least for the past few years.
I disagree.
This is the sort of game that we win straight after a match like the one vs the Tigers. The following week is when the heads swell, the media jump aboard, and just when we hold our destiny in our hands and start giving everyone a glimmer of hope, we lay down and get done by Port with an extremely flat performance.
Hurley and Ryder back, interesting to see who comes in for us!
Ryder is no good against knockers.
no good at all.
Don't think Hurley is a certainty yet.
Where the feck is my Karma going?
@Thryleon
Thank-you for the Jab Watson nickname, if you hear someone screaming;
"Kick it to Jab, kick it to Jab!"
You know it was all your idea!
Thank-you for the Jab Watson nickname, if you hear someone screaming;
"Kick it to Jab, kick it to Jab!"
You know it was all your idea!
Just a little jab pass
@Thryleon
Thank-you for the Jab Watson nickname, if you hear someone screaming;
"Kick it to Jab, kick it to Jab!"
You know it was all your idea!
I cant take the credit unfortunately, I saw it written down some where (possibly on here) and then thought that it was very clever. Thought I would share the love on here anyway!
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-19/heppells-foot-fears
"If he's cracked it, he's done [for the year] for sure but if it is sore, it's not going to go away quickly either."
The Bombers are set to welcome back key forward Michael Hurley after a three-week stint on the sidelines, but Tom Bellchambers and Nick Kommer have both been sent for scans after pulling up sore from the Kangaroos clash.
The club is also managing Scott Gumbleton (hamstring) and Travis Colyer (calf) after both were unavailable for action over the weekend.
"If he's cracked it, he's done [for the year] for sure but if it is sore, it's not going to go away quickly either."
Heppell won't play against us, cracked or bruised the risk is too high of the strain even if he doesn't have a crack.
They cannot improve their position on the ladder from the bottom half of the ladder and only the AFL can force them out!
He will be rested!
Unless of course he has "Unequaled recuperative powers" or they have found some "Miracle Cure!" ;)
@Thryleon
Thank-you for the Jab Watson nickname, if you hear someone screaming;
"Kick it to Jab, kick it to Jab!"
You know it was all your idea!
I cant take the credit unfortunately, I saw it written down some where (possibly on here) and then thought that it was very clever. Thought I would share the love on here anyway!
You could also wear the T-shirt to the game - it's the right colours!
(http://www.geekalerts.com/u/jabba-the-hutt-pizza-shirt.jpg)
@Thryleon
Thank-you for the Jab Watson nickname, if you hear someone screaming;
"Kick it to Jab, kick it to Jab!"
You know it was all your idea!
I cant take the credit unfortunately, I saw it written down some where (possibly on here) and then thought that it was very clever. Thought I would share the love on here anyway!
I posted it and stole it off some inventive little prick off facebook! Great creativity. :)
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/heppell-injury-stumps-bombers-20130819-2s73u.html
Heppell possibly gone for the rest of the year.
We must be hard and accurate with disposals from the get go. Relentless and quick with everything we do. The doubt they have in their drug filled heads must be got to all day. If they get a sniff those naughty little drugs can kick in to their benefit!
Let's hope all this PR spin about the AFL backing down doesn't spur them on against us. Hopefully MM will have the boys prepped for whatever the Scum dish out.
Let's hope all this PR spin about the AFL backing down doesn't spur them on against us. Hopefully MM will have the boys prepped for whatever the Scum dish out.
Good point... could give them the encouragement they need. All the more important for us to be ruthlessly focussed, like it's the only game that matters, and in some respects, that is true.
See the B*mbers shoot up, up .....
I couldn't resist it. ;D ;D ;D Karma.....
as you say Baggers
...it's the only game that matters..
Our best comment on the drug issue, is to whack Essendon hard.
The most important game for years!
Banner this week should read;
"We messed up, we copped our whack... now is time to hand it back".
I hope Bell, Robbo and Casboult dish it out this week, no matter what the consequences.
Make a stand, on behalf of the competition, you will not get away with cheating.
screw Essendon
I will be devastated if we don't give absolutely 100% this week and really serve it up to them.
I'm still in two minds about going along as I previously vowed not to go to another Essendon game until the AFL sort this out BUT I would hate to miss a great and glorious Blues victory!
Bit worried about the Bummers though - wonder if Turd can get 'em revved for this one? I hate their arrogant supporters too and would hate to see them happy.
Missus away for the weekend - check
Son to my parents house - check
Brunswick st Souvlaki King on the way home - check
Can't see any reason not to go TBH! :))
I think we have lost this one already.
Our club website is already listing the Scum as "The Out-of-Form Essendon!"
FMD, one win and we are already talking ahead of the curve!
DITTO
Bombers cleared of AOD use and likely to play finals.
We have no chance, nada.
I won't even turn it on.
Ouch you reckon? With our season still alive, I'm going. We own the Bummers this time of the year.
This will be a monster battle with the Bombers.
If we battle nose to nose, they will fall apart in the second half.
Selections?
* Will ROK replace Boots - I hope so!
* Will Kreuzer replace Warnock - hope so
* Garlett replace Bell- I suppose so, Bell needs to improve his skills
I don't care if Bombers are in the finals, they will bomb out first week.
We will be in the finals. We toss Bombers and Port, Port get laced by Dockers.
We will win our first game in the finals. Maybe the second.
OK I personally think that it is 'line in the sand' time.
The line in the sand should be that, from now till the end of the year, forget about the drugs, the injections, the 4 aminos and focus on ourselves and how we are going to beat a team who we despise, who are on the same number of premierships as us and who are spiralling out of control, ready to be buried.
Let them keep their points and let them be humiliated over the next three weeks. Most of their supporters and I dare say their players would love to cop their penalty now, cause they ain't going anywhere this year, but their admin are sitting firm.
Just go out and beat them because they are Essendon and because they are one obstacle standing in the way of us and a hit at the finals.
i reckon there's no question Murphy gets an easier ride physically if the opposition knows Bell and Robbo are lurking.....
i reckon there's no question Murphy gets an easier ride physically if the opposition knows Bell and Robbo are lurking.....
Bingo!
i reckon there's no question Murphy gets an easier ride physically if the opposition knows Bell and Robbo are lurking.....
Bingo!
What does Murph say to his tagger then? Let's you and them fight? ;D
I thought Murphy genuinely put in against the tigers, as did Bell, but both suffered from "almost-it is" i.e. almost ran down the player down, almost stuck a desparate tackle, .. almost knocked down the ball and made almost made the intercept... Murph looked shy of confidence and lacking in touch but I couldn't bag his effort and he at least had a go. Bell clearly needed the run and should be better next week as the speed of the game caught him a few times, but loved the physicality. Bell offers something to our midfield that the others don't really provide, and all I can see is upside in him. He needs games to polish him.
McLean being underestimated and Robbo playing a decent game... also made us look a better side than previous weeks.
Bell clearly needed the run and should be better next week as the speed of the game caught him a few times, but loved the physicality. Bell offers something to our midfield that the others don't really provide, and all I can see is upside in him. He needs games to polish him.
Amen. AFL is another few cogs up from VFL - speed, intensity, everything.....
The lad will get there.... Patience.
Caroline Wilson pumping up the big game.
Carlton's coaches were expected to caution their players against sledging their opponents at the MCG on Saturday night. And coach Mick Malthouse has been made aware of the potential pitfalls of commenting on the Essendon scandal for a third week running.
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Blues president Stephen Kernahan has made his distaste well known in the past of clubs commenting on other clubs' business - but Malthouse deserves some credit for speaking out about Essendon just as he did for taking a stand more than a decade ago over racism in the game.
No other coaching statesman appears to have grasped the seriousness of the Essendon story - certainly not publicly. Leigh Matthews has strangely suggested the Bombers could be scapegoats and Kevin Sheedy remains hopelessly conflicted.
But Malthouse laid the challenge squarely at the AFL two weeks ago. ''This is going to be solved and remembered for as much about the governance of the game as it is about Essendon,'' he said. ''I hope, if there's penalties to be passed down, that they're not scared of it.''
Then, last week, Malthouse predicted the season would end in a shambles because of Essendon. On that he appears on the money.
Every other club in the competition is becoming increasingly disenchanted with Essendon, but the message spreading through Visy Park this week is that now is not the time to compound concern at the Bombers' behaviour.
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I think in the two games we lost to Fremantle & the Bulldogs we have had one too many defensive midfielders and not enough ball winners. Having an extra ball winner, improving the accountability of the players and moving Gibbs forward really helped the functioning of the team. I think Cachia has had a really good year but for team balance he is the one who will miss out in the short term, especially with Curnow playing well. I hope we can make the finals and then we can use Judd as our substitute. That would be a real weapon rather than the juiced up weapon the Bummers have been using.
OK I personally think that it is 'line in the sand' time.
I dare you to step across this line.
[flash=420,315]http://www.youtube.com/v/zkzWyOaS8kU[/flash]
I think in the two games we lost to Fremantle & the Bulldogs we have had one too many defensive midfielders and not enough ball winners. Having an extra ball winner, improving the accountability of the players and moving Gibbs forward really helped the functioning of the team. I think Cachia has had a really good year but for team balance he is the one who will miss out in the short term, especially with Curnow playing well. I hope we can make the finals and then we can use Judd as our substitute. That would be a real weapon rather than the juiced up weapon the Bummers have been using.
Good gear.
We were too defensive. Totally agree re Cachia ...love his improvement but gave so little the other way.
After todays news events and how much focus Hird will have on the case all season, they will be mentally not up to a challenge if they are pushed hard on the field. Mick just needs to find boys who are ready to give their all. This game will be played between the players ears.
I think in the two games we lost to Fremantle & the Bulldogs we have had one too many defensive midfielders and not enough ball winners. Having an extra ball winner, improving the accountability of the players and moving Gibbs forward really helped the functioning of the team. I think Cachia has had a really good year but for team balance he is the one who will miss out in the short term, especially with Curnow playing well. I hope we can make the finals and then we can use Judd as our substitute. That would be a real weapon rather than the juiced up weapon the Bummers have been using.
Good gear.
We were too defensive. Totally agree re Cachia ...love his improvement but gave so little the other way.
Yet perhaps those were his orders.... he played some bloody good offensive games for Norwood last year?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRge0OvWFVk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRge0OvWFVk)
Ironic that we should be playing them now of all times.. ;D Somebody up there is showing some love.
BummerT must be the coach for them this week - Hirdy wouldn't have a lot of spare time right now. ::)
Bummer reckons he hasn't had a lot of spare time lately, having to read up on a 400 page report.
Bummer reckons he hasn't had a lot of spare time lately, having to read up on a 400 page report.
:D
OK - what's Knightsy up to atm? - oh yes, VFL duties.
Free kick count is going to be interesting.
I reckon they will give it a crack on the weekend. Might be their grand final. Just to end our season if nothing else.
I reckon they will give it a crack on the weekend. Might be their grand final. Just to end our season if nothing else.
Agree, expect no quarter from them and be prepared to give none in return! Could be a bit vicious.
We must play our game, regardless. We must absorb their emotional bursts.
This is a final. We must know that because for them it is a final & statement (of their loyalty to bla bla & bla) they will be sacrifice everything.... and they will play, as such. But maybe they won't. Maybe Bomber will take the reigns and instil Pussy Cat attitude?
We shouldn't waste energy trying to get into their heads with sledging - that's a serious waste of energy. All our energy must be focussed on winning every contest... nothing will defeat them more than an opponent that is clinical and persistent in its application and indifferent to their situation. We must go into this game with a focus about how to beat the very best EFC. We must.
Ironic that we should be playing them now of all times.. ;D Somebody up there is showing some love.
You reckon, could work against us, our players are notorious for not showing mental fortitude when required. As I said earlier, we should turn up and well and truly place our foot on their throat with increasing pressure over 4 qtrs. We should win comfortably given the circumstances however I have no confidence of this though purely because of who we are.
Carlton 1.44
EFC 2.75 (latest odds)
Just hope James keeps up his protestations.
I am keen that he has one more week of wrecking Essendon
Carlton can help Essendon,
and we should.
We should give them such a shellacking that James Hears the message!
Carlton 1.44
EFC 2.75 (latest odds)
Crikey, first read at the post I thought you were predicting the scoreline, especially with some of boys kicking of late ;D
They're only expecting 60,000 for Saturday night's game, I thought more would have turned up considering what's at stake?
They're only expecting 60,000 for Saturday night's game, I thought more would have turned up considering what's at stake?
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Does that include 22 EFC players and 1 coach?
;)
On a personal level our boys may have a little bit of sympathy for their boys. "There but for the grace of God go I" sort of stuff. MM will have to make sure that doesn't get in the way of the surgical ruthlessness with which we need to approach this one - if they come out and get aggro with us it will help our cause.
Any player who was hurt while they were on the juice shouldn't need any other motivation. Carrots can be game day motivator.
If we win and Port lose, then we get to play for our season the following week. To a certain extent, our season is in our own hands and if we are good enough we will get to play finals.
Freo players dropping like flies. Now Ibbotson is out.
If we win and Port lose, then we get to play for our season the following week. To a certain extent, our season is in our own hands and if we are good enough we will get to play finals.
Freo players dropping like flies. Now Ibbotson is out.
Freo might want to be careful about throwing the game as Richmond can take their place in the top 4
Port have been having a great run with the umpires too. Driving me nuts.
If we win and Port lose, then we get to play for our season the following week. To a certain extent, our season is in our own hands and if we are good enough we will get to play finals.
Freo players dropping like flies. Now Ibbotson is out.
Freo might want to be careful about throwing the game as Richmond can take their place in the top 4
Port have been having a great run with the umpires too. Driving me nuts.
And if they finish 5th, would they rather play us at Subi or Port ? I say Port as they will have a good look at them this week.
If we win and Port lose, then we get to play for our season the following week. To a certain extent, our season is in our own hands and if we are good enough we will get to play finals.
Freo players dropping like flies. Now Ibbotson is out.
Freo might want to be careful about throwing the game as Richmond can take their place in the top 4
Port have been having a great run with the umpires too. Driving me nuts.
And if they finish 5th, would they rather play us at Subi or Port ? I say Port as they will have a good look at them this week.
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I agree. I don't think Freo will win.
Might back port this weekend. Paying over 5 bucks.
If we win and Port lose, then we get to play for our season the following week. To a certain extent, our season is in our own hands and if we are good enough we will get to play finals.
Freo players dropping like flies. Now Ibbotson is out.
Freo might want to be careful about throwing the game as Richmond can take their place in the top 4
Port have been having a great run with the umpires too. Driving me nuts.
Richmond are 10 points behind with 2 games left to play, how can they finish 4th?
If we win and Port lose, then we get to play for our season the following week. To a certain extent, our season is in our own hands and if we are good enough we will get to play finals.
Freo players dropping like flies. Now Ibbotson is out.
Freo might want to be careful about throwing the game as Richmond can take their place in the top 4
Port have been having a great run with the umpires too. Driving me nuts.
Richmond are 10 points behind with 2 games left to play, how can they finish 4th?
Fair call that Thry:)
Freo will be going for a top 2 finish which they can most definitely acheive, especially if the Dawks drop their last 2 (north at Ettihad and Sydney in Sydney) which is a real possibility. Plus, injuries don't affect Freo in case you hadn't noticed.
Do members get a match refund if the Extraordinary meeting bans them today?
Do members get a match refund if the Extraordinary meeting bans them today?
Maybe they could re-enact the 99 prelim?
The top 4 are currently as follows:
Hawthorn 68
Geelong 64
Sydney 62
Freo 62
Geelong play Sydney at skilled this weekend.
You can bet that Freo will show up to spank Port if they can help it. If I were them I would want a home final and given the percentage between them and Sydney is small (1.5% difference), they might even be hoping that Sydney get up against Geelong in a tight one, because if they can win by a big enough margin, they might book themselves a home final, especially with Sydney playing vs Hawthorn at the G next friday which will be a huge match and go some way to deciding who finishes where.
Do members get a match refund if the Extraordinary meeting bans them today?
If the other clubs boot em, I will buy a membership for every club that votes yes.
Re: Freo v Port - No Hartlett for Port is just as damaging (if not more so) as no Ibbotson for Freo.
Now onto our game, I reckon having all this Hird sueing afl brewhaha going on is better for us than if Hird was sacked this week giving the peptides extra fire into their 'injection riddled' bellies.
I hope this game is on fta in Adelaide... last week we had the two adelaide games and sfa else other than fri night. Deplorable round with sfa games to watch...
Keep playing those kids Mick!
We can really slaughter these blokes and move in for the kill against Port who would be a real challenge if fighting for their spot in the finals.
Kreuser for Bootsma...that's all folks!
in Kreuz
out Boots
Hmmm. So no chance of O'Keefe getting a run this season I guess. I wonder if that spells the end for him?
Two bonafide rucks is interesting, I reckon Warnock or Kreuzer wont play.
IN
Kreuzer
Out
Bootsma
IN
Patrick Ryder, Jackson Merrett, Michael Hurley, David Myers
OUT
Tom Bellchambers (Omitted), Nick O'Brien (Omitted), Dyson Heppell (Ankle), Leroy Jetta (Omitted)
Warnock and Kreuzer in the same team? When will they realise that it never works. Kreuzer should be number 1 ruck with Casboult to add support. Kreuzer is not a reliable forward and Warnock can't do anything but ruck. So essentially Kreuzer is going to be played out of position for most of the game because playing Warnock anywhere else is a liability.
Good to see Nicky G get another crack.
Nick Duigan an emergency............
Top heavy - risky.
Thought ROK was a chance to be an emergency. ???
Top heavy - risky.
Thought ROK was a chance to be an emergency. ???
Kreuzer could peel oranges for 99% of the game and still contribute more than Bootsma.
Don't mind Kreuzer in to even up the talls. They'll matchup something like this, maybe...
Foll: Warnock
Ryder
F: Casboult Waite Kreuzer
Hooker Pears Carlisle
B: Jamison Henderson McInnes
Hurley Daniher Crameri
I like those matchups. I guess you could leave out Warnock, put Tuohy on Crameri, McInnes on Hurley and Jamison on Daniher and have Henderson forward on Carlisle.
MCG, Saturday 7:40pm AEST
CARLTON
B: Heath Scotland, Michael Jamison, Lachie Henderson
HB: Zach Tuohy, Andrew McInnes, Bryce Gibbs
C: Chris Yarran, Mitch Robinson, Kade Simpson
HF: Ed Curnow, Andrew Walker, Tom Bell
F: Brock McLean, Levi Casboult, Matthew Kreuzer
Foll: Robert Warnock, Eddie Betts, Marc Murphy
I/C: Jarrad Waite, Nick Graham, Troy Menzel, Dennis Armfield
Emg: David Ellard, Nick Duigan, Aaron Joseph
In: Matthew Kreuzer
Out: Josh Bootsma (Omitted)
ESSENDON
B: Mark Baguley, Tayte Pears, Michael Hibberd
HB: Brendon Goddard, Cale Hooker, Lauchlan Dalgleish
C: Alwyn Davey, Jobe Watson, Jackson Merrett
HF: Michael Hurley, Stewart Crameri, Jake Carlisle
F: Patrick Ryder, Kyle Hardingham, Nick Kommer
Foll: Joe Daniher, Jake Melksham, Heath Hocking
I/C: David Zaharakis, Brent Stanton, Ben Howlett, David Myers
Emg: Nathan Lovett-Murray, Will Hams, Nick O'Brien
In: Patrick Ryder, Jackson Merrett, Michael Hurley, David Myers
Out: Tom Bellchambers (Omitted), Nick O'Brien (Omitted), Dyson Heppell (Ankle), Leroy Jetta (Omitted)
I'd prefer another defender, but I've been worried about team structure for the last 3 or 4 weeks.
MCG, Saturday 7:40pm AEST
CARLTON
B: Heath Scotland, Michael Jamison, Lachie Henderson
HB: Zach Tuohy, Andrew McInnes, Bryce Gibbs
C: Chris Yarran, Mitch Robinson, Kade Simpson
HF: Ed Curnow, Andrew Walker, Tom Bell
F: Brock McLean, Levi Casboult, Matthew Kreuzer
Foll: Robert Warnock, Eddie Betts, Marc Murphy
I/C: Jarrad Waite, Nick Graham, Troy Menzel, Dennis Armfield
Emg: David Ellard, Nick Duigan, Aaron Joseph
In: Matthew Kreuzer
Out: Josh Bootsma (Omitted)
ESSENDON
B: Mark Baguley, Tayte Pears, Michael Hibberd
HB: Brendon Goddard, Cale Hooker, Lauchlan Dalgleish
C: Alwyn Davey, Jobe Watson, Jackson Merrett
HF: Michael Hurley, Stewart Crameri, Jake Carlisle
F: Patrick Ryder, Kyle Hardingham, Nick Kommer
Foll: Joe Daniher, Jake Melksham, Heath Hocking
I/C: David Zaharakis, Brent Stanton, Ben Howlett, David Myers
Emg: Nathan Lovett-Murray, Will Hams, Nick O'Brien
In: Patrick Ryder, Jackson Merrett, Michael Hurley, David Myers
Out: Tom Bellchambers (Omitted), Nick O'Brien (Omitted), Dyson Heppell (Ankle), Leroy Jetta (Omitted)
I'd prefer another defender, but I've been worried about team structure for the last 3 or 4 weeks.
Was thinking the same, but there aren't really any defenders screaming out for a game in the NB's. Duigan maybe, but with all their talls we need to stay big in defence, Waite will play back. There aren't any healthy tall defenders available in the 2's.
Waite will play back only if Carlisle goes forward ;)
Can't gauge this game at all. Will depend how our boys mentally prepare given all the CheatFC issues. You would expect them to be cooked but who knows.
Yes, almost certain Waite will play in the back line. Who will be sub is the interesting question for me - probably Graham again unfortunately for him.
They'll miss Heppell, they're also likley be mentally spent knowing deep down that they have SFA chance of playing finals. We should win this.
Glad Warnock (despite Kruizers inclusion), Graham and Menzel are playing.
I wish they would stop naming Walker at CHF. It was funny for the first couple of rounds but it's getting a little tired now.
That is probably the best balanced and most flexible line-ups we have named all season. I can't see Henderson spending a lot of time in the back half but, if he has to, we can cover that. The only real question mark is over how Kreuzer and Warnock work together. If that pans out well, Ryder will be in for a torrid time.
I wish they would stop naming Walker at CHF. It was funny for the first couple of rounds but it's getting a little tired now.
That is probably the best balanced and most flexible line-ups we have named all season. I can't see Henderson spending a lot of time in the back half but, if he has to, we can cover that. The only real question mark is over how Kreuzer and Warnock work together. If that pans out well, Ryder will be in for a torrid time.
They must've assumed we were going in with 1 recognised ruckman. They didn't even name a ruckman as an emergency so they can't bring one in, but we can always take one out and bring in a mid as a late inclusion. Good thinking from the MC.
Very worried about this game, minus Garlett I am worried speed. Couple of things we need to watch:
Ryder - Generally goes well against us especially when he is down on form coming into our game.
Davey - This hack always gets out the back of our defenders and kicks a bag.
Goddard - Been down, loves playing us.
Scum Spirit - They have shown some amazing spirit against some almighty odds this year, watch em pull it out this week.
Sometimes the most dangerous opponent is the one that seemingly has nothing to lose.
I reckon our B grade outfit will smash them.
Ryder loves smashing our little blokes... line in the sand time for us with this individual. Take. No. More. S$^%
Ryder loves smashing our little blokes... line in the sand time for us with this individual. Take. No. More. S$^%
Hope he tries... bit more mongrel in our side with Dinger and Meat.
Ryder loves smashing our little blokes... line in the sand time for us with this individual. Take. No. More. S$^%
I think Boult needs to take on this task.
Stand 10mtrs off, ball coming in high, commence run up, present knee into middle of back, ball spills (MOTY a bonus), job done ;)
Ryder loves smashing our little blokes... line in the sand time for us with this individual. Take. No. More. S$^%
I think Boult needs to take on this task.
Stand 10mtrs off, ball coming in high, commence run up, present knee into middle of back, ball spills (MOTY a bonus), job done ;)
Tuohy doesn't do so bad at it either, and Jammo has crunched a few over the pack this season as well!
Ryder loves smashing our little blokes... line in the sand time for us with this individual. Take. No. More. S$^%
I think Boult needs to take on this task.
Stand 10mtrs off, ball coming in high, commence run up, present knee into middle of back, ball spills (MOTY a bonus), job done ;)
Tuohy doesn't do so bad at it either, and Jammo has crunched a few over the pack this season as well!
Yeah, I'm thinking body wise, Touhy & Jamo have more chance coming off second best.
Kruezer won't play either Ellard or Joseph for mine.
With the state the EFC are in at the moment I will be disappointed if we don't smash them in this game.
A big win this week would give the boys much confidence ahead of a more challenging game a week later.
Kruezer won't play either Ellard or Joseph for mine.
Perish the thought!!
Its a good thing Agent Smith is going to be coaching still this week.
Bah, rotten Port/Freo game is on fta here in Adelaide, so no game viewing for me... unless I drop into a mates place who has fox.
Hit the pub Raven!!
I am concerned of the talk that Hird will give it away tonight.
Hope Hird coaches tomorrow, it will make it easier for us.
am going to the game tomorrow
reckon all the black and red players and supporters will be arranging the wagons in a circle, getting ready to take on the world - real us versus them mentaility
in this frame of mind they will draw inspiration from any crap our supporters give them before and during the game - their supporters will be wanting us to give it to their players because they know it will fire them up
so i reckon we give them no fuel - nothing - players and supporters alike
How many wagons will Essendon have to circle?
How many Essendon supporters will attend?
Could we have hoped for 80,000 in other years?
Small crowd,
a message to James?
Why has Garlett been named in the twos?
Why has Garlett been named in the twos?
That can't be right.
If he's fit enough for magoos he's fit enough.
Just hoping our boys come to PLAY with the right mindset. We have been known to come to games just to help other teams hit form.
With all this media hype just hope MM keeps the boys focused on the job at hand and that is the 4 points.
Get the game in the bag then start to get stuck (with needles) into the players and give them what for. Make them a mockery of the AFL and have the Tird resign at the end of the game ....aaah the Karma.
Why has Garlett been named in the twos?
That can't be right.
If he's fit enough for magoos he's fit enough.
http://northernbluesfc.com.au/news/178-nbfcvwsfc-round-19-preview-2013.html
Why has Garlett been named in the twos?
That can't be right.
If he's fit enough for magoos he's fit enough.
http://northernbluesfc.com.au/news/178-nbfcvwsfc-round-19-preview-2013.html
I know he has, I just thought it makes no sense.
We've been 9th for how many weeks? Watch us fark up even if the Scum a stripped of points. Bet ya Weagles win tonite.
Still reckon one of Kreuzer/Warnock wont play. Maybe Garlett a late inclusion and they wear the fine? Hard to see why Garlett would be playing twos.
Has anyone heard who Brettie is tipping Yet??
Still reckon one of Kreuzer/Warnock wont play. Maybe Garlett a late inclusion and they wear the fine? Hard to see why Garlett would be playing twos.
K didn't look to free at training. Still, cant understand the Garlett thing.
If Kreuzer isn't 100% I wouldn't want to see him play unless he is sub.
"If it is to be it is up to me"
I'm a pretty simple man. I'd say I'm fairly calm 99% of the time and am definitely a lover, not a fighter.
But I farking hate Essenscum! If we lose this tonight, I'm gonna shove my membership up MM's bum. I hate Ess more than any other club by a country mile, then Coll , then Saints/Hawks then the rest but this mob................ DONT GET ME STARTED !!!!!!! >:D
If this Blues team were my kids, right now I'd be telling them dont bother coming home if you lose !!!!!
Win Blues if not for anything else for your die hard fans who've had to put up with a lot over these last 10 yrs.....Do not let us down...not tonight, Not to this mob !!
@bigblue nailed it, my sentiments exactly.
I'm a pretty simple man. I'd say I'm fairly calm 99% of the time and am definitely a lover, not a fighter.
But I farking hate Essenscum! If we lose this tonight, I'm gonna shove my membership up MM's bum. I hate Ess more than any other club by a country mile, then Coll , then Saints/Hawks then the rest but this mob................ DONT GET ME STARTED !!!!!!! >:D
If this Blues team were my kids, right now I'd be telling them dont bother coming home if you lose !!!!!
Win Blues if not for anything else for your die hard fans who've had to put up with a lot over these last 10 yrs.....Do not let us down...not tonight, Not to this mob !!
BigBlue for PM, you've got my vote :)
I think I'm in Bazzaro world. Just had a Pies, a Hawks and a Norf supporter telling me they all hoped that we thrash CHeatFC tonight. These are all classic $hit stirring hardcore supporters who have done nothing but give me a hard time for years :o (actually I don't know why I stayed friends with them :)) )
My vote too BigBlue .
Stinkin , Rotten , Dung-munching , rock spider b@$t@rd$ . >:( >:( >:(
I hope they never , ever recover from this .
Our boys need to focus and win this game, if we lose this will be a shocking way to finish the season. This is non negotiable.
We will need to hit the bombers hard early.
They probably don't care about Hird's reputation, and would not play for him!
However, it appears they will lose their points, so today's game is opportunity for a statement.
We had better smack them early. They will start hard. If we meet them real hard they will roll over
Me Hopes!
@Bigblue
I'm right with you mate - I've decided to go along to support our boys tonight so they better effin' WIN!!
This is Micks biggest game.
Lets see how far this "Process" has come.
in more strife than whoosha if we lose
in more strife than whoosha if we lose
Well he'll certainly come in for a lot of scrutiny that's for sure. He's on a hiding to nothing really.
Still reckon one of Kreuzer/Warnock wont play. Maybe Garlett a late inclusion and they wear the fine? Hard to see why Garlett would be playing twos.
K didn't look to free at training. Still, cant understand the Garlett thing.
I wouldn't play anyone unless they are 100 %: it is one of my bugbears and something I keep brining up. However, the MC don't appear to be listening to me.
why drop Jeff Garlett?
in more strife than whoosha if we lose
This is what I am affraid of. Spot light is on everyone else then along comes Carlton and gives them something to write about for all the wrong reasons. Sick of being conditioned to negativity, just I cant help knowing this will more than likely happen. Sigh.
We have been treated as cheats since 2002 by all and sundry.
We remember the days tumble weeds were sweeping around Princes Park from 2002 to 2007.
We remember the 3 wooden spoons.
Tonight will be a cathartic experience for our Club
BURY THEM!
@MF
Agree - we need to do it clinically though - keep the emotion out of it till we're singing the song!
why drop Jeff Garlett?
Wasn't dropped - was injured last week & they decided not to include him back in the team this week. Thoroughly deserves a run in the VFL as well, 'cos apart from the North game, his form over the past 6 weeks has been ordinary at best.
in more strife than whoosha if we lose
This is what I am affraid of. Spot light is on everyone else then along comes Carlton and gives them something to write about for all the wrong reasons. Sick of being conditioned to negativity, just I cant help knowing this will more than likely happen. Sigh.
I think it's more than likely that this will be Melatonin Man's last game... wouldn't be surprised if they have told the players and treat this as their grand final. The players might also be relieved that Hirdy is being thrown under the bus.
So I'm expecting them to be up tonight, and they do have some good ins. Although I'm not sure how many times you can go down the "do it for the coach" path.
And we ain't that good either.
But I would say to all going tonight... show some class. That's what separates us from Essendon/Collingwood supporters.
..............and don't forget to cheer Zaharakis!!!!!!!!
Lloydy said the bombers are in a bad way today, so I took Carlton at $3.25 to beat the bomber by more than 40.
Lloydy said the bombers are in a bad way today, so I took Carlton at $3.25 to beat the bomber by more than 40.
DON'T FALL FOR LLOYD'S crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lloydy said the bombers are in a bad way today, so I took Carlton at $3.25 to beat the bomber by more than 40.
DON'T FALL FOR LLOYD'S crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh well.
I base my bet on our last 3 seasons 2nd half season floggings of this mob all - well over 40 points each and everyone.
Lloydy said the bombers are in a bad way today, so I took Carlton at $3.25 to beat the bomber by more than 40.
I hope you're a winner with that 1, for your and every other Carlton supporters sake !!!
GO Blues !!
AJ out of the 2's, cited as "illness". Hmmmm
I thought Garlett was only not in the team because he was injured.. Now I see he's in the Northern Blues today... Not happy.. He's been the best performed out of the 3 amigos all year..
I thought Garlett was only not in the team because he was injured.. Now I see he's in the Northern Blues today... Not happy.. He's been the best performed out of the 3 amigos all year..
I agree.
He's been the most consistent and most improved in terms of running both way and selfless acts.
Makes no sense to me.
Duigans not out there either, you can expect a change tonite i'd say.
AJ out of the 2's, cited as "illness". Hmmmm
Nooooo! don't even think it >:(
humiliating if we drop this one
Mate if AJ plays tonite, I will spew up.
Mate if AJ plays tonite, I will spew up.
maybe he'll play the hitman role if they get rough
Lloydy said the bombers are in a bad way today, so I took Carlton at $3.25 to beat the bomber by more than 40.
DON'T FALL FOR LLOYD'S crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yep, must not get sucked in - the Bummers could be dangerous! They'd especially love to beat us!
Mate if AJ plays tonite, I will spew up.
maybe he'll play the hitman role if they get rough
Gee it wet myself if he came towards me. ::)
Mate if AJ plays tonite, I will spew up.
maybe he'll play the hitman role if they get rough
Gee it wet myself if he came towards me. ::)
he doesn't turn me on just quietly
Mate if AJ plays tonite, I will spew up.
maybe he'll play the hitman role if they get rough
Gee it wet myself if he came towards me. ::)
he doesn't turn me on just quietly
Hmmmm, which one of you is being sarcastic now ;D
Walker and Kruezer out.
Got a bad feeling .
Duigan and Joseph in. Graham Sub.
Bombers by 4 goals.
Duigan and Joseph in. Graham Sub.
Bombers by 4 goals.
Carlton by 8 goals
Duigan and Joseph in. Graham Sub.
Bombers by 4 goals.
Joseph FMD :(
Duigan and Joseph in. Graham Sub.
Bombers by 4 goals.
Joseph FMD :(
AJ is playing for his career expect him to give his best - he always puts in 100%
Duigs always gives his all. and is a good leader.
Duigan and Joseph in. Graham Sub.
Bombers by 4 goals.
Duigan in good form from all reports and is very hard at it......
AJ's farewell perhaps? Good luck to the bloke.
Duigan and Joseph in. Graham Sub.
Bombers by 4 goals.
Joseph FMD :(
AJ is playing for his career expect him to give his best - he always puts in 100%
Duigs always gives his all. and is a good leader.
I know he does and I think he does it very well and he should continue to be played.........in the VFL.
My gripe with him is that as long as he gets a game we have really done nothing to develop any talent. Suppose I use him as my benchmark for the team *sigh*
AJ is playing for his career expect him to give his best - he always puts in 100%
Duigs always gives his all. and is a good leader.
I know he does and I think he does it very well and he should continue to be played.........in the VFL.
My gripe with him is that as long as he gets a game we have really done nothing to develop any talent. Suppose I use him as my benchmark for the team *sigh*
The other issue is that we don't really have a player who can fill the role. Joey is our only lock down small defender. Shame he can really hack it up sometimes but when he is good he is pretty good.
Has been pretty good in the NB's this year and has improved.
Dropping Walker makes me nervous though.
OMG Joseph is he really any chance of getting another contract? Why is he playing? Ditto Duigan really TBH I would have preferred O'Keefe, Ellard or even Bootsma!
No Walker and Kruezer makes us vunerable...Duigan and Joseph will struggle IMO, Okeefe should have played.....
Both Duigan and Joseph lack awareness and make poor decisions under pressure. Not what we need.
Dont mind kruez not playing, need run and spread.
Both Duigan and Joseph lack awareness and make poor decisions under pressure. Not what we need.
Dont mind kruez not playing, need run and spread.
Quite a few nervous nellies down back.
Gibbs will probably spend the night down there helping out.
Any idea why walker is out? Injured?
Just moved to hong kong for work without the oz network showing the game.... Does anyone know where i can stream it online?
Errr.....nice username.
The AFL streams live but you have to pay check out the AFL website. Otherwise sportlemon.com may give you some joy.
Any idea why walker is out? Injured?
He has gastro apparently :-\. And Kreuzer still having issues with his calf :(
Errr.....nice username.
The AFL streams live but you have to pay check out the AFL website. Otherwise sportlemon.com may give you some joy.
Thanks mate,
haha yeh the name was ripped off flight of the conchords