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Ladies Lounge / VFLW Coaching Staff 2022
An interesting appointment made to out coaching staff today: Shaun Hampson. Hope he can do the job and make our new talls winners.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
It says a lot about our season that 35 players this season managed to get some votes. Considering that some guys who played didn't manage a vote at all, it suggests that we haven't had a stable team.
That is an understatement. One of the things about successful teams is that they generally have a lot of stability in their line-up. Maybe our new coaching staff will manage to find that stability, but I doubt it.

One way of getting stability is to have few injuries. That is a trick we haven't managed this century yet. Certainly Russell cannot be the only source of blame: this trend goes back to the mid 90's at least. We have had at least 5 fitness guys since then: are they all duds? Very unlikely.
Do we blame out medical staff? Another good question with the same not very good answer. Now we have links with LaTrobe University's Sport's medicine people, it would be reasonable to expect that we have better results than other clubs. But we don't.
I know I go on about injuries, but teams that have a large portion of their best players off the field regularly don't make finals and don't win flags.
For example, how many votes did Charlie Curnow get this year?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS.
Few of our honourable losses were less honourable than this one. We really put it to GWS for all but a few minutes on either side of half time. But that wasn't enough. Again. Heartbreak. :( :(

Trends:
[1]   The voters weren’t tempted to make much of an appearance. There were 9 this week, which is not our worst. However, we get double that number and more when we’re winning.

[2]   We put up a much better effort and weren’t far away from a real contender. That wasn’t bad for half a team (or less). The rating, 8.04, reflected that. That represents a C.

[3]   4 players managed 100 votes of more, which is truly respectful. Last week we struggled to get 3.

[4]   3 players managed to get votes from everyone, which is a considerable improvement over the last couple of weeks. And another missed by a single voter.

[5]   12 players managed a mention this round, which is also an improvement. Unfortunately, there were a number of these players who contributed very little.

[6]   Congratulations to Ed Curnow for his BOG effort this week. 4 goals from a guy who doesn’t play as a forward says a lot, and not all of it good. This was his 2nd BOG for the year.

[7]   Sam Walsh managed to complete an amazing season. He was only not in the top three vote getters three times for the entire season. Jacob Weitering was similarly impressive. Only thrice did he miss being in the top eight.

Votes:
Curnow, Edward 379
Newman, Nicholas 226
Walsh, Sam 217
Weitering, Jacob 163
de Koning, Tom 90
Stocker, Liam 63
Kennedy, Matthew 36
Betts, Eddie 14
Casboult, Levi 14
Saad, Adam 5
Cripps, Patrick 5
Kemp, Brodie 5
Fogarty, Lachlan 5

Final Cumulative Votes:
5895 - Walsh, Sam (217)
3205 - Weitering, Jacob (163)
1832 - Curnow, Edward (380)
1634 - Cripps, Patrick (5)
1538 - Saad, Adam (5)
1538 - McKay, Harrison (0)
1457 - Jones, Liam (0)
1152 - Kennedy, Matthew (37)
1024 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
765 - Newman, Nicholas (226)
742 - Docherty, Sam (0)
607 - Betts, Eddie (14)
429 - Dow, Patrick (0)
365 - Stocker, Liam (64)
318 - de Koning, Tom (91)
315 - William, Zac (0)
302 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
294 - Fogarty, Lachlan (5)
199 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
195 - Newnes, Jack (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
177 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
163 - Martin, Jack (0)
133 - Murphy, Marc (0)
120 - Owies, Matthew (0)
114 - Cuningham, David (0)
112 - Honey, Joshua (0)
107 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
88 - Casboult, Levi (14)
82 - Fisher, Zac (0)
46 - O'Brien, Lochie (0)
35 - Williamson, Tom (0)
20 - Setterfield, Will (0)
8 - Durdin, Corey (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)
5 - Kemp, Brodie (5)



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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Voting: AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS
Team:   C
One good half and not giving up like last week.

Votes:
[3]   Ed Curnow
[3]   Sam Walsh
[2]   Nick Newman
[1]   Jacob Weitering
[1]   Liam Stocker
[1]   Matthew Kennedy
[1]   Tom de Koning
[0.5]   Patrick Cripps
[0.5]   Adam Saad
[0.5]   Levi Casboult
[0.5]   Eddie Betts
[0.5]   Lachie Fogarty
[0.5]   Brodie Kemp

Explanations:
[3]   Ed Curnow:   4 goals and a great game.
[3]   Sam Walsh:   A typical Sam Walsh game, even when being tagged.
[2]   Nick Newman:   Solid and hard working.
[1]   Jacob Weitering:   A very good game in defence.
[1]   Liam Stocker:   First half was brilliant.
[1]   Matthew Kennedy:   Solid.
[1]   Tom de Koning:   His best game for quite a while.
[0.5]   Patrick Cripps:   17 possessions in half a game, even though they were all handballs.
[0.5]   Adam Saad:   Solid in defence
[0.5]   Levi Casboult:   Reward for his effort, 2 goals in his last game.
[0.5]   Eddie Betts:   Still has some magic.
[0.5]   Lachie Fogarty:   Tried hard
[0.5]   Brodie Kemp:   Has a real future in defence.

Honourable Mentions:
Liam Jones:   
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Carlton vs Port Adelaide:
One great half (1.75 quarters, anyway), and the rest doesn't require thought. Disgraceful. Unprofessional.

Trends:
[1]   There were 8 voters this week, a slight improvement.

[2]   The rating of 5.25 was very poor. That represents F+, almost.

[3]   We had 3 players only get 100 votes or more.

[4]   9 players managed a mention. That is very poor and so unlike your normal efforts.

[5]   Nobody got votes from everybody this week. For the 2nd week in a row!

[6]   Sam Walsh was BOG. Until ¾ time, he was easily the best on the ground, but he had 1 possession in the last quarter.

Votes:
Walsh, Sam 248
Weitering, Jacob 195
Kennedy, Matthew 180
de Koning, Tom 53
Honey, Joshua 38
Saad, Adam 30
Murphy, Marc 30
Curnow, Edward 8
Durdin, Corey 8

[Progressive Voting:
5678 - Walsh, Sam (0)
3043 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
1629 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1538 - McKay, Harrison (0)
1534 - Saad, Adam (0)
1457 - Jones, Liam (0)
1453 - Curnow, Edward (0)
1116 - Kennedy, Matthew (0)
1024 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
742 - Docherty, Sam (0)
593 - Betts, Eddie (0)
540 - Newman, Nicholas (0)
429 - Dow, Patrick (0)
315 - William, Zac (0)
302 - Stocker, Liam (0)
302 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
290 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
227 - de Koning, Tom (0)
199 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
195 - Newnes, Jack (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
177 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
163 - Martin, Jack (0)
133 - Murphy, Marc (0)
120 - Owies, Matthew (0)
114 - Cuningham, David (0)
112 - Honey, Joshua (0)
107 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
82 - Fisher, Zac (0)
74 - Casboult, Levi (0)
46 - O'Brien, Lochie (0)
35 - Williamson, Tom (0)
20 - Setterfield, Will (0)
8 - Durdin, Corey (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)



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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021
Carlton vs Gold Coast
Probably the most disheartening loss of the year and one of the reasons David Teague is history. Such a huge disappointment.

Trends:
[1]   There were 7 voters this week. There were 14 for the same round last year. There were 14 voters last week. I think that probably shows just how turned off our supporters are at the moment.

[2]   The rating of 6.14 wasn’t quite a disaster, but it said everything. That represents little more than an E. Poor, against a team that got thrashed previously and subsequently.

[3]   We had 3 players only get 100 votes or more. That compared to five for the previous game.

[4]   13 players managed a mention.

[5]   Nobody got votes from everybody this week. Not one.

[6]   Congratulations to Nick Newman for being BOG, his first of the year.

Votes:
Newman, Nicholas 246
Weitering, Jacob 189
Walsh, Sam 136
Jones, Liam 83
Kennedy, Matthew 79
Curnow, Edward 70
Honey, Joshua 35
Cripps, Patrick 26
Martin, Jack 26
Newnes, Jack 13
de Koning, Tom 9
Stocker, Liam 4
Plowman, Lachlan 4

Progressive Votes:
5431 - Walsh, Sam (0)
2848 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
1629 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1538 - McKay, Harrison (0)
1504 - Saad, Adam (0)
1457 - Jones, Liam (0)
1445 - Curnow, Edward (0)
1024 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
936 - Kennedy, Matthew (0)
742 - Docherty, Sam (0)
593 - Betts, Eddie (0)
540 - Newman, Nicholas (0)
429 - Dow, Patrick (0)
315 - William, Zac (0)
302 - Stocker, Liam (0)
302 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
290 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
199 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
195 - Newnes, Jack (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
177 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
175 - de Koning, Tom (0)
163 - Martin, Jack (0)
120 - Owies, Matthew (0)
114 - Cuningham, David (0)
107 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
103 - Murphy, Marc (0)
82 - Fisher, Zac (0)
74 - Honey, Joshua (0)
74 - Casboult, Levi (0)
46 - O'Brien, Lochie (0)
35 - Williamson, Tom (0)
20 - Setterfield, Will (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)

First and second are set in stone. Pretty close behind them.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2021 Review: What have we learnt about our team?
I was his biggest fan but he was embarrassing thus season.   He needs to win a lot more one on ones and make a lot less fatal (= coughs up goals)  mistakes.  Went to ground and pushed out of marking contests far too easily and that is unlike him.    A couple of years ago he was very hard to score on,  in 2021 he was a shell of the player he was. Long term I reckon Kemp will take his spot.
Plowman had an ordinary year this year, no doubt about it. But he will get the job as long as there is nobody better at the job. Maybe we can find one, but he will take a year or two to replace Plow.
If we get a better defensive structure in 2022, I expect Plow to play better. We have talent in defence, but they don't play like the team defence you see at Melbourne. If they did, nobody would be complaining.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Teague Gone?
Le roi est mort! Vive le Roi!

It was an ugly and disappointing way to go for a guy who had been a good servant and a popular man. But it has happened.

I wonder how long it takes to sack the next one?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2021 Review: What have we learnt about our team?
[1] We have not learnt the full capability of out list:
It is rather scary to think, but Marc Murphy never actually played a game where the entire list was available to select from. He played 300 games and it could have been more, but for injury. Murphy was drafted this century. The malaise actually goes back farther than that. Maybe, there was a week in 1999, although I doubt it. There wasn't one in 1996. In 1995 we may have been close ...

Just think what that means to a team, NEVER to have your best combination on the park, in fact, never quite knowing what your best combination is, because some guys may never have played with some others.

Look what happened to us in the past: Wayne Brittain wasn't a bad coach. Under him we got to the finals in 2001. But in 2002 we were on the bottom. Why? Not because our coach was incompetent, but that we had a large number of injuries we couldn't cover. Brittain was the scapegoat.
John Elliot also had his comeuppance, an event that hurt us for years to come.

Why did Richmond fail this year? Arrogance and injuries.

With a large part of your talent sitting in the stands, even the best sides falter. We have been experiencing this for at least twenty years!

[2] Have we learnt that David Teague can coach?
I would not argue that he can't coach. Consider how we played against Essendon and St. Kilda this year. Those were really good wins. He's had two full seasons and a part of one. Even Malthouse got more than that.
I admit freely that I was disappointed with Teague's coaching this year. He was outcoached often. Our defensive structures are not that great, even though we do have some defensive talent.
Has he had support from his assistants? I would find it hard to argue the positive case.
Brett Ratten is a better coach now than he was when he coached us. He had a couple of really obvious weaknesses: he wouldn't make a change and he wouldn't pick a side to best hurt the opposition. he also thought we had enough talent to win a flag when we didn't.
Does he do those things now? I doubt it. He learns and St. Kilda are improving because of it.

Now we may never know if Teague is the man or not. The review process didn't help him either.

[3] Were we right to select a young, untried coach in the first place?
History suggests that we weren't, as we haven't improved that much since Bolton left. We have improved: we don't tend to loose by huge margins very often any more. But have we improved enough to save a career? That looks unlikely.

[4] Have we solved the development issues?
I don't think so, but I do feel we are moving in the right direction. Our player development this century has been appalling. Our recruiting was worse for a long time, but we do seem to be doing better there. Not perfect, but nowhere near as poor as we were under Wayne Hughes.
We appear to be trying to develop our players more. I hope to see more of that in the next few years. But I think the review process is not going to be pleasant reading in this area.

[5] Would we care about the board of we were winning games?
I don't know that we would. There have been problems there for a long time, but if we were winning, there would be no reasons for the actions to exist. We would be a much more harmonious ship.
Do I like the way things are going? Not sure that I do. There seems to be considerably less democratic processes that there were in the past. But, with a number of the older heads moving on, I don't think the board is the source of all our woes.
Is it the source of any of our woes? Absolutely. We do need more football people involved, in my humble opinion. We are not just a business. Infighting has cause problems. But most of those people are leaving, or have left. I am not willing to bash the new administration: yet.
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Robert Heatley Stand / 2021 Review: What have we learnt about our team?
With us failing to make the finals again, and failing to to win a premiership for the 25th year, I was wondering we thought of the season. Was there anything we learnt about our future? Are we headed in the right direction> What haven't we learnt from 2021?

I am sure there will be a lot to say. I know I have a bit on my mind.