will likely be the last one we buy, but I read the room. My 16 year old mondeo replaced for a vw arteon. Was one of about 3 cars I could find in that size, shape with that sort of liftback that I actually liked.
I'm told it's the last one that dealer will sell.
The alternatives were all SUV or a lot smaller or much more expensive or similar priced and EV. no solar at home made the choice easier as it meant charging on the grid or adding 20 grand to the cost of the car.
The mrs car is an SUV and we didn't want another. we'll probably know a lot more about cars and EVs vs hydrogen when it's time to replace her 2017 xtrail.
Hopefully that's minimum 7 years away and they can make newer cars better. At least we'll know if EV is the way to go by then (or we'll have minimal choice).
In this discussion I had a thought the other day. First ev I could think of was a prius. You would think Toyota would have been at the forefront of EV given that factor. Why did they elect to dump it? Only answer I can come up with is the numbers dont work.
Nic Newman is the leader in the back line. I suspect we were tinkering more than anything else. Also tough to get a read where we are at as we have a game next week where most others don't, and it was our first season playing deep for quite some time (our last prelim was 1999). We may have a mini hangover at the start of the season as a consequence, and we may also be in a different training stage to others although Melbourne are playing this week. So long as we finish stronger than we start its all good.
Nah i know its years away, i'm just hoping for some certainty in the future, whichever way it goes.
I think i've settled on the diesel Everest and i'll deal with the consequences later.
My worry is that cars depreciate in value enough as it is, i don't want something to depreciate to the point its just worth scrap, simply because new tech has made it obsolete almost overnight. As i said, i'm thinking 6+years into the future which is how long i expect to have this new car
thats fair.
I dont worry too much about the future value. I've only owned a few cars. I'm 41 and been driving my diesel mondeo since 2008 when I got it new. Previous cars were second handers.
The mondeo isn't unreliable but it's time for it to go shortly. It's worth what it's worth and I'm going to trade it in because private selling is annoying and time consuming and usually it's not worth the hassle.
The next car, depreciation is what it is. It might not go the distance anyway.
Does an ammonia powered car potentially run off urine? 😄
Jokes aside kruddler the first car of this type would be 5 plus years away. At least one financed vehicle cycle away.
It shouldn't change what you do today. I imagine that there will be am initiative to help get the last ICE car holders onto the next platform if it's required. I also think that as petrol and diesel demand wanes the price of it here will drop, as the demand for it does unless they restrict supply to keep the price of it buoyant.
Aside from a prius are there any other ev's old enough to be sold second hand? I would have thought most ev owners would be "new" owners ergo very few would be for sale second hand and the ones that are would be "like new".
Either way I'd buy an ICE vehicle if you weren't sure. They'll be here for 20 more years at least IMHO.
It won't be the same thing though. EV's will be around and infrastructure for them will persist even if hydrogen is the future of motor vehicles. A bit like gas and regular petrol alongside diesel. It won't obsolete any one platform to the point where it's a brick.
I hope Toyota perseveres ... and the petrochemical industry gets on board to bring down the cost of producing hydrogen.
I think this is where Kruddlers argument is most important. Which way is the future? Odds are the car industry doesnt know.
The one thing that the car industry generally agrees on is that driverless vehicles are the future. To be honest, I hope so. There is an element of me first selfishness that has pervaded the roads for the last 10 years, where people are seemingly oblivious to driver etiquette and it all results in line jumping, delays, accidents, and general traffic slowdown.
Boss drives a Porsche Taycan Ev. It's an amazing car.
I've generally heard great things from everyone who has an EV.
I suspect the early adopters won't be dissapointed. The ones who will be most dissapointed will be when they hit the lower cost higher profit part of the equation. Whilst their innovating you'll get the odd one that's a lemon but most of them will be fine because all the R and D is going into making them work rather than work cheaply. Soon you'll get second rate versions hitting the market.
Like any other car really. This isn't like the first EFI cars where they were different and worse initially. This is a much bigger disruption.
Yep. I like the shouting at each other bit the most.
Personally, I just want to drive a mid sized hatchback that isnt going to cost me a house deposit, and am agnostic when it comes to ICE vs EV vs BEV vs what ever other acronym is being invented.
Instead, you can buy a small, medium or large SUV, a commercial vehicle, or a hatchback or one of the crappy little sedans that fit nothing but the people they are transporting.
