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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Last post by cookie2 -
@EB

Gee EB afaic those relos have huge and unrealistic expectations of you as cousins of your wife! Must be a cultural thing? I wouldn’t consider the financial affairs of a cousin to be any of my business let alone lending/giving them money. Sorry to hear that you have been placed under such pressure. Not helpful I know but I would be telling them to feck off.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Last post by DJC -
Meanwhile, on the ground in Sweden, daily deaths from (with +PCR test) or with CV19 have averaged less than 1 (yes, one) per day for at least a month.

As we all know (by now) that PCR tests do not determine, or diagnose, illness.

Sure sniffs of herd immunity to me.

Oh and you also failed to mentioned, the minority party likely to lead is far right.

Think BNF.

Funny, how you omit, when likely you know full well, the inconvenient truths.

Nothing to do with the virus. Try disdain for the long standing multi-culturist policies!

(note, checking a few web sites seldom beats talking to people on the ground)

The only serious metric of Sweden's success or failure is their excess death count. Both against their own past and other Euro/global nations. noting, their crisis was a nursing home crisis too.

If you need a hand interpreting the data, happy to assist.

But carry on.







I'm not sure that excess death count is the only metric, but:

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Countries in northern Europe have generally experienced much lower mortality rates throughout the pandemic. Some Nordic nations have experienced almost no excess deaths at all. The exception is Sweden, which imposed some of the continent’s least restrictive social-distancing measures during the first wave.
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker

Of its north Europe neighbours, only Estonia comes close to both Sweden's excess deaths and deaths (per 100,000) officially attributed to COVID-19 for the 12 months to March 2021.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Last post by Mav -
I’d tell a white lie and say the fiancé’s family were footing the bill for the wedding. That would mean you wouldn’t be putting your daughter and her fiancé in the gun. But that would only work if the in-laws-to-be aren’t known to your extended family. If they’re from the same community, they’d be on the phone immediately.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Bit more to it....We had my daughters wedding planned for Palm Cove in Qld late August...not our idea but her husband to be has a flash well paid job and wanted a more upmarket affair. That of course was cancelled due to CoVid but family concerned have this idea we were paying for this wedding and now have X amount of dollars spare after it was cancelled.
My daughter doesnt want to disclose what hubby to be does or gets paid to anyone so everyone else has the idea we have money to throw around for fancy weddings and they can hit us up.
Another family member was the mortgage broker who arranged them the loan after other financial institutions said No....of course he is keeping a very low profile.....same bloke got my wifes nephew who is in his 1st year after his apprenticeship as an Electrician,newly married and not on big money a large housing loan which he is struggling to pay off after being talked into it.
If interest rates go up he will be in trouble too.....
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Last post by Mav -
Oh boy! I missed the point they’d bought after the pandemic hit. What a risky gamble.

I can’t believe they’d look to relatives to bail them out. If I went to Crown casino and lost $200k at the roulette wheel, I wouldn’t have the chutzpah to tell relatives they needed to foot the bill.

In the taxi industry, taxi owners would band together in a form of Insurance pooling. If one of them was sued over a crash, they’d share the costs (and perhaps also share the costs of fixing the taxi). But that was all organised ahead of time and featured reciprocal obligations. Any owner who was deemed to be a cowboy wouldn’t be allowed into the pool. But here, your in-laws have, unbeknownst to you, effectively made you a co-borrower who is jointly responsible for the loan. You had no chance to assess risk or opt out. And if the café had gone gangbusters, no doubt you wouldn’t have shared In the success.

I don’t envy you. There’ll be heaps of pressure from the family and ironically the sister who refused to pay will probably have some reason why you should pay when she didn’t, thus successfully passing the hot potato. I like to read Ask Prudence in Slate and so many people write in with variations of this issue.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Mav, they are nice people but have a history of poor decision making with business and lost their parents home to the bank
when another business venture failed. Buying a cafe/restaurant in CoVid times given the extreme lockdown rules in Aus is like buying a surfboard when there is a Tsunami due the next day....a dumb decision which we warned them against.
They want my wife, her sister and brother to give them a loan, they are Slavic/Nth Italians so the family are close and there is this expectation its our duty to help. My wifes sister and her husband have already said No so of course the pressure is on us and her brother to find the money.
Tough situation EB
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
I like the nuance in your post EB. You’ve blamed Covid for your in-laws plight rather than the lockdowns or restrictions that are used to contain it. And I’m sure everyone can empathise with their plight as we’ve all suffered to some degree (though, I hope, not to the same degree). Sure, cafés & restaurants have always been risky, but who could have foreseen they’d be swept away by a tsunami like this?
Mav, they are nice people but have a history of poor decision making with business and lost their parents home to the bank
when another business venture failed. Buying a cafe/restaurant in CoVid times given the extreme lockdown rules in Aus is like buying a surfboard when there is a Tsunami due the next day....a dumb decision which we warned them against.
They want my wife, her sister and brother to give them a loan, they are Slavic/Nth Italians so the family are close and there is this expectation its our duty to help. My wifes sister and her husband have already said No so of course the pressure is on us and her brother to find the money.