The game is on at 11:00 at Prince park (Ikon Oval) on Saturday.
Our team:
Backs: Cody Hirst Ed Delany Ryley Stoddart
Half-backs: Cooper Stephens Stefan Radovanovic Tom Williamson
Centreline: Will Setterfield Lochie O'Brien Matt Kennedy
Half-forwards: Ben Caluzzi Josh Honey Matt Owies
Forwards: Corey Durdin Ben Crocker Sam Ramsay
Followers: Alex Mirkov James Parsons Paddy Dow
Interchange: Toby Wooller Tom North Sam Philp Matt Shannon
Emergency: Dale Marshall Aaron Gundry Lachie Swaney Fraser Phillips
Still no numbers posted.
There is a bit more experience in the side, Durdin and Philp will be on more minutes. A couple of guys have something to prove after last week's capitulation.
But out biggest problems will again be structural: not a lot of height along the spine and only 1 ruckman who cannot yet see out a game. It does not bode well.
Brisbane still have close to a full list. We don't.
Any word on media coverage??
Only 10 Senior listed players, shows just how many injuries we have, not a tall defender between them FFS. And of those 10 playing, I only hold hope for 5 of them (Durdin, Philp, Ramsey, Owies and dare I say it Dow).
Any word on media coverage??
Kayo.
Does that include FOXTEL or exclusive to Kayo?
Does that include FOXTEL or exclusive to Kayo?
Pretty sure it's exclusive to Kayo.
https://resources.afl.com.au/afl/document/2021/04/22/63fcad5c-71d7-4860-a4a2-5e345bdad7fb/VFL-Fixture-April-22.pdf
Only 10 Senior listed players, shows just how many injuries we have, not a tall defender between them FFS. And of those 10 playing, I only hold hope for 5 of them (Durdin, Philp, Ramsey, Owies and dare I say it Dow).
The cull of tall timber last off season (BSOS, Goddard, the other tall kid always injured Macreadie) without replacing any of the 3 was a bizarre decision/non decision.
The cull of tall timber last off season (BSOS, Goddard, the other tall kid always injured Macreadie) without replacing any of the 3 was a bizarre decision/non decision.
Yes... very strange. Although Parks looks like a master-stroke so if he took 1 of those spots I think we're well in front.
Oscar McDonald cannot kick so I can't see much hope there unless he plays forward.
5-1-31 to nothing our way.
Is it too late to swap them for the firsts :D
The big ruckman Mirkov is pretty impressive with his tap work so far.
Now Blues 7-1 to Bris 0-0
49-0
Crocker's running around the forward line like Dusty Martin.
Just kicked his 4th 55-0
Game over lol.
10 goal first quarter
Jack Silvagni doing some commentary and going OK.
Parson's (third goal) kicks the 11th
I’m more exited about this game than the next...
Quarter time 12-1-73 to Brisbane 3-0-18
Three late goals to Brisbane in a 40 minute quarter....think they forgot to sound the siren
(15 goal quarter probably had a bit to do with the length).
Probably have to be a little cautious judging individual performances because the pressure and intensity is pretty much non-existent.
Ok so the immediate question is what is Brisbane's VFL team like? Are we playing a country thirds team?
Warmed the cockles to see navy blue ripping an opponent apart... ah, the memories.
Notice in the first qtr when Setterfield was rested, they got a few.
Setterfield, Crocker, 73 (Mirkov?) dominant in the first qtr. Dominant team effort as the scoreboard reflects. We're hunting in packs which is good to see... wonder if the seniors might try that!
Like 77 and Wooler as well.
Ok so the immediate question is what is Brisbane's VFL team like? Are we playing a country thirds team?
According to the commentators, BrisVegas 2s have been a dominant VFL side.
Pretty sure it's exclusive to Kayo.
https://resources.afl.com.au/afl/document/2021/04/22/63fcad5c-71d7-4860-a4a2-5e345bdad7fb/VFL-Fixture-April-22.pdf
Pathetic, I pay all that money for Foxtel (mainly for sport) and can't even watch the AFL reserves comp.
Philp has come on in the 2nd and has had an immediate impact - managed time, so didn't play the first qtr.
According to the commentators, BrisVegas 2s have been a dominant VFL side.
Ok so question two is, can we hold onto a lead and continue to dominate or will we allow a run of goals to let them back in?
Philp has come on in the 2nd and has had an immediate impact - managed time, so didn't play the first qtr.
Good to hear
12.2
4.0
Our way.
O'Brien dumb free kick in front of goal for them. Hasn't done a great deal else.
Setterfield, I reckon, is about our best. Linking play beautifully and bringing team mates into the game.
BrisVegas have really upped their pressure in the 2nd... and, guess what... held us scoreless. Pretty bruise free stuff in the first.
12.3
5.0
Half way through the 2nd.
gone to sleep. too cute...
Brisbane has upped their pressure considerably.
Carlton 12-3- 76 v Brisbane 7-0-42
BrisVegas have really upped their pressure in the 2nd... and, guess what... held us scoreless. Pretty bruise free stuff in the first.
That's the difference.
Im watching now, daughter has an account. 5 goals to nothing
12.3
10.0
We've turned a 70 point lead into 15 pts...
Make that 6
It's actually a bit of an indictment on both sides.
Brisbane didn't come ready to play and we've gone to sleep.
7 in a row
Yay we got one
Nice purple patch from O'Brien... ran down the wing, bounced a few times then good delivery to Durdin, then ran back hard the other way and took a saving mark in defence.
13.4
10.1
We finally settled and got 2 in a row.
Half time
14.4.
10.1
And another, 5 to Crocker. 27 pts at 1/2 time
Good to see Ramsay and Honey get into the game later in that qtr, along with O'Brien.
Commentators giving a few wraps to Dow, but I haven't seen it... to much kick and hope disposal which only pads his stats.
Setterfield our best.
No Kennedy so must be the medical sub for later today.
Sounds like they left the mikes on when they went to the half time break.
I hope Jack is discreet.
It's OK they've gone to replays now. :D
Setterfield was on Matheson for a while and didn't impress me, really given the opposition and looking at players capable of playing hard senior footy only Crocker impressed me along with Wooler and both are non listed players..
Sorry to say but nothing to get excited about re Willo.
Setterfield was on Matheson for a while and didn't impress me, really given the opposition and looking at players capable of playing hard senior footy only Crocker impressed me along with Wooler and both are non listed players..
Crocker's best work is around goals... there was a period where he drifted up to the wing and was dreadful. But I have liked his work/reading of the ball when it's deep in the forward line... and thinks when he's got the aggot. Liked Wooler as well but is he too slow?
Looking forward to watching more closely the work of Philp, Ramsay and Honey in the 2nd half.
Setterfield really doesn't impress me, so flat footed at stoppages, just follows his opponent and only gets near it if it given to him or falls in to his hands.
What a bizarre game.
Certainly entertaining re so much scoring.
You look at Matheson and think ‘Yeh, once a flog, always a flog!’ Can play when he puts his mind to it, but just oozes flog.
Setterfield really doesn't impress me, so flat footed at stoppages, just follows his opponent and only gets near it if it given to him or falls in to his hands.
Funny, but I thought his skills by hand and quick reading of the play were very influential in setting up our first qtr dominance... but he seemed very different in the 2nd... perhaps once he was being 'minded' he was found wanting, but he had plenty of mates - we responded poorly to the BrisVegas pressure for most of the 2nd.
I wonder if we're considering Mirkov as a project and to be rookied in the mid seasons draft... Crocker and Wooler are probably not doing their chances any harm, either.
Liked 77 until I saw, especially in the 2nd, how slow he is. 57 has a fair-dinkum dip.
3 in a row to us now
Another to Parsons 101 to 63
Another to North 107 to 63
They're saying there's not much wind...but some of the kicks to the 'scoring end' seem to be going a long way.
e.g. those last two shots for goal by us.
Really like Ramsay's foot skills.
Honey showing strength and footy smarts...
63pts again. Guessing we got kicked right up the arse after that 2nd qtr.
20.3
10.3
There's a bloody great magnet at one end of the ground!!!
3/4 time
Carlton 20-7-127
Brisbane 11-4-70
Honey showing strength and footy smarts...
Yep looks to run hard, just what we need in the ones.
7 to Crocker, sign him now.
7 to Crocker, sign him now.
Might as well ... sorta screams out at us
141-70.
I take back what I said about Mirkov... unless he can use his volleyballs skills or height... he's clueless.
I take back what I said about Mirkov... unless he can use his volleyballs skills or height... he's clueless.
He's a long term project player, no different to Cox at the Filth.
The only problem I have, Cox came out of Rugby use to physical contact. A volleyball player like Mirkov might not be so adept at dealing with the physical stuff.
He's a long term project player, no different to Cox at the Filth.
(Both went to the same school!)
I take back what I said about Mirkov... unless he can use his volleyballs skills or height... he's clueless.
I think He'll be really good for this team, not much chop around the ground but seems to get his hand to the ball at the centre bonces and at stoppages. Will really help our Mids development I reckon.
He's a long term project player, no different to Cox at the Filth.
The only problem I have, Cox came out of Rugby use to physical contact. A volleyball player like Mirkov might not be so adept at dealing with the physical stuff.
Thought Cox was a soccer player?
Good to see they have done the right thing and destroyed the opposition.
Just when I was thinking how impressive Setterfield and O'Brien were they make clumsy, dumb mistakes ...let's be generous and put it down to tiredness/leather poisoning!!
Might as well ... sorta screams out at us
They'll probably gone and sign up Fraser Phillips instead.
Thought Cox was a soccer player?
Pretty sure it was rugby, but I might be confusing him with somebody else.
Overall Honey is a sweet ball user, silky.
Setterfield looks 10x the player in the midfield than on a HBF.
VFL team playing well is a good long term outlook for the AFL team, it matters.
Liked 77 until I saw, especially in the 2nd, how slow he is. 57 has a fair-dinkum dip.
57 Parsons, old fashioned VFL FF, makes the most of his opportunities.
Sorry, I was thinking of 52 not 57.
Nice to get a win after last week, but I am really surprised how ordinary Brissie were. We need some key position players so badly, yet they couldn't handle the few talls we have.
I'll watch the replay later.
I enjoyed Jack's expert comments. His ability to analyse and explain what was happening was really informative and his insights into his teammates and their strengths made the coverage much better.
Dow sitting out the last quarter suggests that he may be the medical sub instead of Kennedy ... unless he's injured.
Considering Mirkov has hardly played footy and is nowhere near fit enough, I reckon he has heaps of potential. Matty K should take him under his wing.
Pretty sure it was rugby, but I might be confusing him with somebody else.
Cox played soccer at high school and limited basketball at college. I don't think that you could say that he has a background in either sport.
Dow sitting out the last quarter suggests that he may be the medical sub instead of Kennedy ... unless he's injured.
Even with a medical dub, there still needs to be an ‘emergency’ in case someone goes down in the prematch etc. purely precautionary I would think unless someone woke up with Bali belly!!
Nice to get a win after last week, but I am really surprised how ordinary Brissie were. We need some key position players so badly, yet they couldn't handle the few talls we have.
I'll watch the replay later.
Does the club post a replay on the site?
We might have a late out in the senior team.
One the selectors weren't ready for.
All the emergencies except Kennedy played.
He was the logical medical sub
If we have a problem...
Kennedy goes into the starting 22
Dow sits out the last and becomes the med sub.
Of course Dow may have been injured before the last quarter.
We'll wait and see.
SEN praising Dow for only 20 possies vs a weak Brisbane twos lineup, just cant see him making it based on that game where we had control for 3 quarters and he was still turning the ball over by foot and hand with minimal pressure.
Setterfield had 25 possies and 10 tackles in what looked like a great game but I just saw more of the same old same old, not much physicality, the opposition in Matheison having a lot of ball and I couldnt get excited about his game either.
If you exclude Crocker who is a experienced journeyman I'd be struggling to find a player to get excited about even though we won by plenty.
Maybe Josh Hollywood Honey looks more of a senior footballer to me given he has a stronger physique but he is the same player he was at U18 level and thats great when he is on for a quarter but then goes missing even in a walkover like todays game.
Ramsey has good skills but is very light in the body and ditto for Philp, Owies isnt as good as Crocker and I'm not sold on Crocker either given he already has had a couple of goes in the AFL.
The other unlisted player to impress me more was Toby Wooller....good size, neat skills, liked what I saw from him and if I was picking one from the herd to supp list it would be him...
All clear. Kennedy is sub
We might have a late out in the senior team.
One the selectors weren't ready for.
All the emergencies except Kennedy played.
He was the logical medical sub
If we have a problem...
Kennedy goes into the starting 22
Dow sits out the last and becomes the med sub.
Of course Dow may have been injured before the last quarter.
We'll wait and see.
I think Dow and Mathieson were just Insurance in case something happened during the Warm-up.
Pathetic, I pay all that money for Foxtel (mainly for sport) and can't even watch the AFL reserves comp.
People still pay for Foxtel?
I ditched it the second Kayo came out. Never again are they getting my money. You get the same stuff elsewhere for cheaper.
People still pay for Foxtel?
I ditched it the second Kayo came out. Never again are they getting my money. You get the same stuff elsewhere for cheaper.
Likewise, ditched Foxtel coupla years ago for Kayo, Netflix... and now Stan (thank you, K)... for a whisker over a third of the price, for far more variety, and the footy.
People still pay for Foxtel?
I ditched it the second Kayo came out. Never again are they getting my money. You get the same stuff elsewhere for cheaper.
Kayo is useless if you dont have an andriod tv which is the case for me
Kayo is useless if you dont have an andriod tv which is the case for me
Buy a chrome cast and it makes a difference
CARLTON 12.1 14.4 20.7 24.10 (154)
BRISBANE 3.0 10.1 11.4 13.7 (85)
GOALS: Crocker 7, Parsons 5, Wooller 3, Caluzzi 2, Honey 2, North 2, Durdin, Ramsay, Shannon.
BESTS: Wooller, Parsons, Crocker, Honey, Setterfield, Dow, Caluzzi
I think the best named players says a lot, which is a real worry. What surprises me is why Brisbane appear so bad. They don't have a lot of injuries and their list isn't that bad. They made the stupidest mistake I can imagine just giving away Stefan Martin to the Dogs: they have few ruck options other than McInerny. When he is injured they have nobody, which is why they lost when he was missing. The grossest of stupidity is to give away a guy who is a match winner, when he is one of only 2 rucks on the list!
I do intend to watch the game tomorrow and enjoy it. I didn't much enjoy the seniors.
CARLTON 12.1 14.4 20.7 24.10 (154)
BRISBANE 3.0 10.1 11.4 13.7 (85)
GOALS: Crocker 7, Parsons 5, Wooller 3, Caluzzi 2, Honey 2, North 2, Durdin, Ramsay, Shannon.
BESTS: Wooller, Parsons, Crocker, Honey, Setterfield, Dow, Caluzzi
I think the best named players says a lot, which is a real worry. What surprises me is why Brisbane appear so bad. They don't have a lot of injuries and their list isn't that bad. They made the stupidest mistake I can imagine just giving away Stefan Martin to the Dogs: they have few ruck options other than McInerny. When he is injured they have nobody, which is why they lost when he was missing. The grossest of stupidity is to give away a guy who is a match winner, when he is one of only 2 rucks on the list!
I do intend to watch the game tomorrow and enjoy it. I didn't much enjoy the seniors.
Crash....what do you think of Wooller ?
I'm sure hes been on a list
I'm sure hes been on a list
Brisbane I think...he impressed me, most will go Crocker, Setterfield etc but I thought Wooller showed more senior potential.
Good size, good mark, good kick and if you wanted to take a punt and rookie a player from your backyard he would be my pick
from todays bunch. We need another KP player given Charlie , Marchbank and McDonald are all cactus for the season.
Crash....what do you think of Wooller ?
he isn't a ruckman, although he has been thrown into that role a lot of late. He moves quite well and has a decent pair of hands. He also generally kicks the ball reasonably. He struggles against really strong opponents. I don't think he is quite up to AFL standard, but he is potentially a good VFL player and leader, if we can keep him.
The reason I don't think he is quite AFL level is partly based on the way we deliver the ball: we don't give our forwards much chance. He isn't going to take huge pack marks against a defence like Melbourne's, for example.
I think he has been a good pick-up for our VFL side, and will be a better one when he doesn't have to ruck so much.
he isn't a ruckman, although he has been thrown into that role a lot of late. He moves quite well and has a decent pair of hands. He also generally kicks the ball reasonably. He struggles against really strong opponents. I don't think he is quite up to AFL standard, but he is potentially a good VFL player and leader, if we can keep him.
The reason I don't think he is quite AFL level is partly based on the way we deliver the ball: we don't give our forwards much chance. He isn't going to take huge pack marks against a defence like Melbourne's, for example.
I think he has been a good pick-up for our VFL side, and will be a better one when he doesn't have to ruck so much.
Fair enough, first time I have seen him so I will bow to your expertise on all matters Wooller.....
Stefan Radovanovic has been easily the best of the top up players over the first two games. Very quick and unbeatable one on one.
Stefan Radovanovic has been easily the best of the top up players over the first two games. Very quick and unbeatable one on one.
I have to agree. Radovanovic has had 2 very strong games in our defence. He positions himself well, so he rarely gets beaten in the air. His disposal is quite good. Of the reserves players, he is the one I think may have a future.
Buy a chrome cast and it makes a difference
Kayo works through any web browser, and also iOS.
Radovanovic looks a strong player but I wasnt that impressed with his kicking, ball drop not great especially on the run or in traffic.
But he did position well and holds his ground...bit like Parks in style.
Kayo is useless if you dont have an andriod tv which is the case for me
Do you have a laptop? HDMI port on the TV?
You don't have a problem anymore.
Many ways to get it to work. One i use on an oldish tv in the bedroom is to screen share from my phone. There are ways.
Telstra TV has the Kayo app available.
Do you have a laptop? HDMI port on the TV?
You don't have a problem anymore.
That's how we do it. Laptop, HDMI cable, external quality speakers from the laptop... off and away. (Our TV is one of the first Smart TVs so is limited re direct connection to streaming etc... about 10 years old and still going well (Samsung), but now that I've written this, it may just blow up today!! ;D )
Laptop or phone cast as Krud suggested or get a separate little android box off ebay.
Do you have a laptop? HDMI port on the TV?
You don't have a problem anymore.
Many ways to get it to work. One i use on an oldish tv in the bedroom is to screen share from my phone. There are ways.
Iphones dont let you screen share certain things.
Telstra TV has the Kayo app available.
Im with Optus
Laptop or phone cast as Krud suggested or get a separate little android box off ebay.
My daughter has a Kayo subscription (found out yesterday) and a Big Android TV in her room. So I have Fox and Kayo.
Im with Optus
Bad luck....🙂
Just watched the first quarter on Kayo: fair dunkum it is nice to see!
[1] Although we dominated the first quarter, there was only one listed player who had much ball at all: Setterfield. Setters got a lot of the pill, but he was the normal Setterfield. Not sure what to take from that performance, except that he was on Mathieson for a fair bit of the quarter.
[2] Our ruck issues will remain with us for a while. Young Mirkov shows real promise, but he doesn't know a lot about the caper. Give him a couple of seasons and he could be a weapon. However, at the moment, he has real limitations in what he knows how to do.
[3] Crocker was very good, and he did something few Carlton forward do well: he leads. He played on Cockatoo and tore him a new one. Cockatoo had no idea how to be a defender.
[4] Our disposal this week was very good, and mostly from the VFL types. if the seniors could dispose of the ball like that, we would have beaten Brisbane easily last night.
[5] Radovanovic (71) continued to impress after last week. He isn't the tallest, but he positions himself well and moves the ball on as quickly as he can. I was impressed.
[6] Wooller had a really good game, managing to get space, taking some strong marks and kicking well. I really liked his game.
[7] Brisbane were a rabble. They had more AFL experience out there than we did, but they did very little. Their mistakes we fed on, and we fed well.
Crocker would probably kick goals in the seniors vs the poor to midpack teams and be a better bet than a few others as he is smart and kicks straight.
But would he succeed vs the better teams and be in our next premiership team?
Crocker would probably kick goals in the seniors vs the poor to midpack teams and be a better bet than a few others as he is smart and kicks straight.
But would he succeed vs the better teams and be in our next premiership team?
My only reservation is that he has been delisted by two AFL clubs.
My only reservation is that he has been delisted by two AFL clubs.
Agree, in that too good for VFL but not good enough for AFL on a consistent basis range as a player.
Playing more as a specialist forward these days unlike when he started as a mid.
If he keeps kicking big bags I think someone might give him another try for half a season in the next supp/rookie draft.
Agree, in that too good for VFL but not good enough for AFL on a consistent basis.
Playing more as a specialist forward these days unlike when he started as a mid.
If he keeps kicking big bags I think someone might give him another try for half a season in the next supp/rookie draft.
I'd give him a go but I suspect if we topped up it would be for a tall KPD or Ruck.
I'd give him a go but I suspect if we topped up it would be for a tall KPD or Ruck.
Agree be a tall swing man type imo.
Agree, in that too good for VFL but not good enough for AFL on a consistent basis range as a player.
Just not enough aerobic capacity, was playing against opponents that in AFL are midfield sized.
The other bloke who played forward and rotated through the midfield is a better option in my opinion, Parsons. Not being able to crack it as a mid / forward at the Handbaggers doesn't mean you aren't a good footballer. He's not going to displace guys like Hawkins, Selwood, Dangflog, etc., etc..
Just watched the first quarter on Kayo: fair dunkum it is nice to see!
[1] Although we dominated the first quarter, there was only one listed player who had much ball at all: Setterfield. Setters got a lot of the pill, but he was the normal Setterfield. Not sure what to take from that performance, except that he was on Mathieson for a fair bit of the quarter.
[2] Our ruck issues will remain with us for a while. Young Mirkov shows real promise, but he doesn't know a lot about the caper. Give him a couple of seasons and he could be a weapon. However, at the moment, he has real limitations in what he knows how to do.
[3] Crocker was very good, and he did something few Carlton forward do well: he leads. He played on Cockatoo and tore him a new one. Cockatoo had no idea how to be a defender.
[4] Our disposal this week was very good, and mostly from the VFL types. if the seniors could dispose of the ball like that, we would have beaten Brisbane easily last night.
[5] Radovanovic (71) continued to impress after last week. He isn't the tallest, but he positions himself well and moves the ball on as quickly as he can. I was impressed.
[6] Wooller had a really good game, managing to get space, taking some strong marks and kicking well. I really liked his game.
[7] Brisbane were a rabble. They had more AFL experience out there than we did, but they did very little. Their mistakes we fed on, and we fed well.
Captain CRASH, come the mid-season draft are we allowed to rookie any VFL listed player? Or only CFC listed VFL players?
Captain CRASH, come the mid-season draft are we allowed to rookie any VFL listed player? Or only CFC listed VFL players?
Didnt we draft Deluca (WAFL) in the midseason draft? Richmond took Pickett. I reckon its anyone.
Didnt we draft Deluca (WAFL) in the midseason draft? Richmond took Pickett. I reckon its anyone.
I think you take anyone who has entered the draft previously....
Captain CRASH, come the mid-season draft are we allowed to rookie any VFL listed player? Or only CFC listed VFL players?
Only players who nominated for the draft the following year.
Doesn't matter if the play for Carlton, Brisbane or Bundalong 3rds.
Iphones dont let you screen share certain things.
The AFL app, yeah.
Have you tried it with Kayo though?
Personally I haven't owned an apple product in my life and don't intend too.
Kayo is useless if you dont have an andriod tv which is the case for me
If you have a laptop you can connect it to the TV via HDMI and then watch it via the website.
Signed up for the free yesterday to watch the VFL side.
The AFL app, yeah.
Have you tried it with Kayo though?
Personally I haven't owned an apple product in my life and don't intend too.
Ditto, I like apples but not the tech variety and have never owned a apple device.
Ditto, I like apples but not the tech variety and have never owned a apple device.
I have always owned iPhones, easy to use. I have both a MacBook Pro and Windows based machine, IMO the Mac eats the windows machines for breakfast. My BIL the tight ass bought my MIL and android version of the iPad, its a dead set piece of junk.
I use them all, they are fine, the problem is most don't spend time to learn how each type of device works.
In the end once you get your HD Kayo by any means, it's fine, it works, it doesn't matter if it's Apple, Microsoft or Google hardware doing the grunt work!
I have always owned iPhones, easy to use. I have both a MacBook Pro and Windows based machine, IMO the Mac eats the windows machines for breakfast. My BIL the tight ass bought my MIL and android version of the iPad, its a dead set piece of junk.
I'm a Windows man, you can get into the system a bit more and being into elec/electronics I like to tinker plus there is just more software around to make your life a bit interesting. I also like Desktops more as well and get my my son in laws hand me down gaming boxes which are quick and tricked up.
Macs are over priced and the service side of things is expensive as well, I walk past the Mac shop at Doncaster Shoppo and cringe at the masses of people lined up to either buy or get a mac device repaired.
The AFL app, yeah.
Have you tried it with Kayo though?
Personally I haven't owned an apple product in my life and don't intend too.
You can cast Kayo from an Ipad to a tv via an AppleTv. Not sure if the Kayo app is available directly on the new AppleTv which would be better. My AppleTv is an old model and Kayo is not available. I normally use Windows/Android devices but I inherited a couple of Apple ones which I use sometimes.
You can cast Kayo from an Ipad to a tv via an AppleTv. Not sure if the Kayo app is available directly on the new AppleTv which would be better. My AppleTv is an old model and Kayo is not available. I normally use Windows/Android devices but I inherited a couple of Apple ones which I use sometimes.
Kayo is an App on the newer HD and 4K AppleTVs.
Kayo is an App on the newer HD and 4K AppleTVs.
👍
I have always owned iPhones, easy to use. I have both a MacBook Pro and Windows based machine, IMO the Mac eats the windows machines for breakfast. My BIL the tight ass bought my MIL and android version of the iPad, its a dead set piece of junk.
If mac is your thing get an Apple TV.
I like that macs synch all your stuff automatically but hate that the control is not there for the individual because it keeps restoring stuff i dont want or need.
I like the ability to change up android in ways Mac won't let you. I switched to android and won't have another apple but im an IT person and like to be able to fix my own problems.
Both platforms have their pros and cons. The operating systems differ but fundamentally they are the same product with different skins.
If mac is your thing get an Apple TV.
I like that macs synch all your stuff automatically but hate that the control is not there for the individual because it keeps restoring stuff i dont want or need.
I like the ability to change up android in ways Mac won't let you. I switched to android and won't have another apple but im an IT person and like to be able to fix my own problems.
Both platforms have their pros and cons. The operating systems differ but fundamentally they are the same product with different skins.
Yep I agree, for Joe Average the AppleTV is a dead set easiest solution, even if you do not have an iPhone or iPad.
So when buying any TV I'd suggest budgeting for an associated AppleTV as your go to media platform, it just works.
Other than that I concur with
@Thryleon and
@ElwoodBlues1 , Apple stuff is for you if you are a call the guy type person. While Windows, Android or Linux are for the tinkerers who create their own solutions and fix their own problems. I've had to use all at various times, but often I get forced towards one or the other due to a specific requirement, for example right now I run Windows and Linux PCs but have Apple iPhone because I need a couple of Business Apps that are only available on iPhone.
As an aside, in my experience most streaming problems are more likely to be related to their router / WiFi router. Home networking hardware, the low end type stuff often supplied by an ISP is commonly the weakest link. OK if you just have few connections to service, but as soon as you get more than 3 or 4 simultaneous streams these systems fall over, they can't deliver the bandwidth even though they connect at high speed.
You can cast Kayo from an Ipad to a tv via an AppleTv. Not sure if the Kayo app is available directly on the new AppleTv which would be better. My AppleTv is an old model and Kayo is not available. I normally use Windows/Android devices but I inherited a couple of Apple ones which I use sometimes.
My Apple TV box is 18 months old, but it’s the basic version because I didn’t get a lot of mbs @ the time (though it’s slightly better now) I was able to download the Kayo app to the Apple TV, and it works fine.
My Apple TV box is 18 months old, but it’s the basic version because I didn’t get a lot of mbs @ the time (though it’s slightly better now) I was able to download the Kayo app to the Apple TV, and it works fine.
Mine is quite a bit older than that NB, but I'll check again to see if Kayo is available now. I understood that a line was ruled under my model and no further new apps were to be made available.
Mine is quite a bit older than that NB, but I'll check again to see if Kayo is available now. I understood that a line was ruled under my model and no further new apps were to be made available.
Yes, you need AppleTV 4th Gen or newer, I think the AppleTV HD from 2015 is 4th Gen and can still get iOS updates.
3rd Gen (2012) cannot be updated to the required iOS version for the Kayo App.
FWIW, we have one of each, 3rd Gen, HD and 4K, having updated TVs a few times over the last decade or so. Our AppleTV 3rd Gen is relegated to serving in-house stuff on the spare TV as we cannot get Kayo or Amazon Prime Apps for it. I can't see that much difference between the HD and 4K versions on a 65" TV, and there isn't all that much 4k content anyway, but the 4K version is a bit more responsive. Netflix, Stan and Disney+ work on all of them, the HD and 4K have the new Apple+ App which aggregates the feeds so you can effectively browse / search all the content through the one App. The HD and 4K sync up using an Apple/iTunes account, so once you've setup one with a new App or service the other automatically updates.
The AppleTV interface and Apple Remote are much easier to navigate and use than most AndroidTV type menu systems, the TVs can be pretty clunky.
The Kayo App itself seems a bit clunky, when you exit and return it can sometimes be slow to refresh / update the content menus which is annoying.
I used a laptop as previously stated. Did have some issue, just before half time where the stream went into slow mo, was actually quite interesting as it really highlighted the action and I was still able to understand the audio. I had to reboot the laptop to get it to work again. After half time also lost audio and again had to reboot the laptop again.
During this time I logged onto the app on an Android phone and was able to see the stream but was unable to cast it to my TV, which I can do for You Tube.
So a couple of questions.
1. Did anyone else have the same issues as I did, before half time and after half time.
2. Can the app stream be cast to a TV, as I was unable to do this while I was having issues with the laptop.
And just a comment on the stream, several times they had replays of goals and the sound from the replay and the live commentary could be heard making it very hard to understand what was going on.
What are the stream quality like on Kayo? Is it Fox commentary for live AFL games?
What are the stream quality like on Kayo? Is it Fox commentary for live AFL games?
The Kayo stream uses whatever commentary Fox uses, either their own or CheatsTV.
I had one streaming hiccup on the Kayo App during last weekends game, but I can't recall when it happened, the rest of the time it was in full HD. In the App you can choose the preferred resolution, Auto, SD or HD. In Auto it will buffer in SD if the stream slows, but you notice it on a big TV. If you set it to HD it might stutter but you tend not to lose anything, you just end up a few seconds behind the stream.
I've have one AppleTV setup on ethernet and the other is WiFi, I've never had a streaming problem on the ethernet based system, so I doubt jitter problems are caused by the App.
If your on WiFi and the connection drops out at regular intervals, it's probably something related to your modem/router falling over. Also, it's amazing how many pissy little devices can destroy your WiFi experience, cheap LED bulbs are a common problem they use little voltage regulator chips that radiate in the 2.5 to 5.0 Ghz range, also some little plug pack powers supplies are notorious for this, smart / colour change light bulbs, humidifiers, plugin odour / perfume gadgets, microwaves, etc., etc.. If you have too many of these shizen little gadgets, it's a bit like trying to listen to the symphony in a room full of chainsaws. Unfortunately, sometimes this can come from neighbours as well.
@ LP
Yes agree, the Kayo app is a bit clunky and there is room for some improvement there.
@ LP
Yes agree, the Kayo app is a bit clunky and there is room for some improvement there.
It usually happens once per game/show, but i'll be watching it then all of a sudden it craps itself and restarts. I've gotta 'fast forward' back to where i was up too (if it was a replay) without going over and getting spoilers.
.....or 'live' if i'm watching something live which is less of an issue.
Its not a wifi issue as i'm plugged in via ethernet on that tv.
My wife told me it was buffering a lot when she was watching at home.
Missed the 3rd quarter...
Paul Sebastiani with the Round 2 Reserves Review.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl27ztELEXk
I’m glad others think the Kayo app is clunky, for me the app is stable, but I find the menu system a bit lacking... sometimes struggling to find the game I want to watch.
I’m glad others think the Kayo app is clunky, for me the app is stable, but I find the menu system a bit lacking... sometimes struggling to find the game I want to watch.
I'll agree with that, plus the live feed of the game doesnt start till right on game start time, you click on it and I kept getting the aftermath of the Geelong game.
The VFL game was even worse Production wise, weird repetitive replays of goals on top of live action and commentary.
I'll agree with that, plus the live feed of the game doesnt start till right on game start time, you click on it and I kept getting the aftermath of the Geelong game.
The VFL game was even worse Production wise, weird repetitive replays of goals on top of live action and commentary.
As discussed in another thread, when I watched the tiggers game I watched the pregame “from start”, but when it rolled into the match proper it didn’t give me a prompt to “watch live”
So I watched the game with two minute delay which was frustrating as my mate from Brizvegas was texting “live”
As discussed in another thread, when I watched the tiggers game I watched the pregame “from start”, but when it rolled into the match proper it didn’t give me a prompt to “watch live”
So I watched the game with two minute delay which was frustrating as my mate from Brizvegas was texting “live”
I've noticed sometimes when you exit and re-enter the Kayo App you find the option with the Pre-show is gone and only the game will be available with Live or Start. I think the problem is sometimes they split the feed after the Pre-Show ends and it leaves some links partially dysfunctional.
I've also noticed a hang part way into some games, and that will usually correspond with a program list change.
As discussed in another thread, when I watched the tiggers game I watched the pregame “from start”, but when it rolled into the match proper it didn’t give me a prompt to “watch live”
So I watched the game with two minute delay which was frustrating as my mate from Brizvegas was texting “live”
You need to bring up the time menu and hit the live button from there.
Best way is to simply pause it....it will show you how much time has gone and how far behind you are. Just click on the little grey box that says live and it will turn red when you are up to speed.
It took me a while to work out what was going on.
You need to bring up the time menu and hit the live button from there.
Best way is to simply pause it....it will show you how much time has gone and how far behind you are. Just click on the little grey box that says live and it will turn red when you are up to speed.
It took me a while to work out what was going on.
Cheers
Watching the remainder of the game. The second quarter was pretty terrible, but the rest of the game was good for the youngsters.
[1] Setters had a good game, with 25 disposals, although he had 18 in the first half. His opponent was Mathieson, who got 4 goals. For that, Setters had a lot of tackles and leads the competition in that category.
I find it a hard game to judge as far as Setters went. I like that he has started making more tackles, but I still have real questions over his intensity.
Paddy Dow, on the other hand, I was quite pleased with. He did nothing much when we were on top early, but his last 3 quarters were solid and he was a part of a lot of clearances. His disposal worries me.
[2] In the second quarter Brisbane got well on top in the ruck, hence their scores. But other than that, we ruled in the ruck. Mirkov shows promise. Delany did a bit of ruck work. he is a nice kick, but he isn't quick. He can jump, though. Wooller did a lot of work and was a very solid player. If Wooller had a weapon, like extra height of extra pace, he would be a senior footballer. But at his height and pace he isn't going to make the impact or take the big pack marks. I like him as a footballer: he works himself hard. But he isn't a ruckman: too short and can't jump enough.
[3] Crocker was very good, and he did something few Carlton forward do well: he leads. He has had issues with chasing, and it is clear he moves faster towards the ball than after an opponent, but he did chase and tackle. He is a chance to get a promotion, as he is kicking better now than he did as a junior. He has an excellent pair of hands.
[4] I mentioned earlier how good the VFL guys were with their kicks in the first quarter. They made a liar out of me in the second quarter, but redeemed themselves later on. Honey made fewer mistakes as well and his kicking was excellent.
[5] Radovanovic appears to be a good pickup. he doesn't tend to panic. I like Parsons' game as well. if Parsons had that extra yard of pace, he would be worth considering for the seniors. But, alas, he isn't that quick and needs to be at his height. North is the same: if he was that bit quicker, he'd be a good pickup. He has a very nice left foot that goes the distance.
[6] I was a little disappointed in Ramsey this week. He didn't have the same impact as he did last week, although most of his possessions looked good. Owies was also not at his best, although I was pleased with his tackling. And one things about the kid, he does know where the goals are.
[3] Crocker was very good, and he did something few Carlton forward do well: he leads. He has had issues with chasing, and it is clear he moves faster towards the ball than after an opponent, but he did chase and tackle. He is a chance to get a promotion, as he is kicking better now than he did as a junior. He has an excellent pair of hands.
Crocker is someone we need to take in the midseason draft.
He has a lot of things that our list doesn't.
He has confidence. He has attitude. He has talent. He can kick. He has tatts.
He is Dusty like in the way he goes about things.
We have a few small, quick, crumber types on our list.....but we don't have a solid nuggety will win one on one contests against anyone types.
Crocker is someone we need to take in the midseason draft.
He has a lot of things that our list doesn't.
He has confidence. He has attitude. He has talent. He can kick. He has tatts.
He is Dusty like in the way he goes about things.
We have a few small, quick, crumber types on our list.....but we don't have a solid nuggety will win one on one contests against anyone types.
Crockers first q was Dusty/Membrey like.
Crockers first q was Dusty/Membrey like.
Played on Nakia Cockatoo who looked like he had never played down back in his life and was clueless.
Crocker is a good converter and thats where I see his value.
Crocker is someone we need to take in the midseason draft.
He has a lot of things that our list doesn't.
He has confidence. He has attitude. He has talent. He can kick. He has tatts.
He is Dusty like in the way he goes about things.
We have a few small, quick, crumber types on our list.....but we don't have a solid nuggety will win one on one contests against anyone types.
Mightn't be the tallest, fastest or most talented bloke going around, but he does appear to have the right stuff.
And finds the pill. or it finds him!
Query would be whether that's Jack Martin's spot?
I reckon that we have too many short blokes in our AFL team’s forward line, particularly when we insist on kicking high balls to them. Martin’s return would give us a little more height but we desperately need smaller forwards with the size and strength to at least halve contests with defenders. Crocker would help to address that.
He just has to perform consistently well to ensure that he can’t be overlooked in the mid-season draft.
Query would be whether that's Jack Martin's spot?
Different players.
You want Martin playing on the wing delivering it to our forwards.....and resting deep.
You'd want crocker playing deep forward, occassionally coming up to half forward.
Think about blokes that give plowman issues, and that's the role you want crocker playing. Deep. Any defender makes a mistake and it's a goal.
I reckon that we have too many short blokes in our AFL team’s forward line, particularly when we insist on kicking high balls to them. Martin’s return would give us a little more height but we desperately need smaller forwards with the size and strength to at least halve contests with defenders. Crocker would help to address that.
He just has to perform consistently well to ensure that he can’t be overlooked in the mid-season draft.
How's Waterman going at the Druggies this year? (serious question)
Agree you would play Martin higher up the ground and use Crocker deep in the forward line looking for that mismatch in body strength on a smaller defender. Crocker is a cagey player too, he knows how to work off his man and get to where the ball is going.
Defensively he might have to pick up his game at senior level, I notice he doesnt chase or apply much pressure when the ball is going out of defense . I would see a few teams being interested in him given his profile seems to be getting higher and he is clearly better than VFL..