With Covid striking again, will this game actually happen?
Can we beat the Road Kill when they are improving and we are losing key players every week?
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Looking forward to the Stocker vs Zurhaar matchup and hope our man gives the Nth man what he gave Liam Jones.
Make it happen DT...
Looking forward to the Stocker vs Zurhaar matchup and hope our man gives the Nth man what he gave Liam Jones.
Make it happen DT...
Zurhaar struggled with a shoulder injury today, maybe needs a rest!
Zurhaar struggled with a shoulder injury today, maybe needs a rest!
Hopefully he plays and Stocker can massage his shoulder for him....
Is there a chance Stocker gets a holiday for that Mihocek shepherd late in the game?
Yes, plays for Carlton.
Is there a chance Stocker gets a holiday for that Mihocek shepherd late in the game?
Looking at it just a few minutes ago, I would think not. But the guy struggled to get up and Stocker does wear a Navy Blue guernsey. Those are two negatives when it comes to the tribunal process.
I wish I could think otherwise, but I recall Plowman being suspended for going at the ball.
This is a game we have to win. Not to keep our finals chance alive but because we have been doing well over the past four weeks but because we just need to keep it going against sides like North Melbourne and Gold Coast.
Looking forward to the Stocker vs Zurhaar matchup and hope our man gives the Nth man what he gave Liam Jones.
Make it happen DT...
First time I really took great notice of Stocker was yesterday. Could he be our 'smiling assassin'?
Important to follow up here. Next 3 games are North, St.Kilda and Gold Coast here, 2 we should win and one 50/50. Dare say win them all and we are sitting in the 8. Can we maintain the motivation and rage though.
Important to follow up here. Next 3 games are North, St.Kilda and Gold Coast here, 2 we should win and one 50/50. Dare say win them all and we are sitting in the 8. Can we maintain the motivation and rage though.
I think this season it's more complex than just form lines, results are affected by unexpected travel, schedule changes, short recoveries, quarantine, etc., etc..
Who knows what ends up happening, I notice some of the AFL media are already suggesting the AFL must favour the club's already in the eight if there is to be bias in the schedule. Not an accident this comes from and is led by Flubbo's crew the week after the CheatsFC sneak into the eight, dressed up as concern for the unfair treatment of the Handgbaggers of course! ::)
I think this season it's more complex than just form lines, results are affected by unexpected travel, schedule changes, short recoveries, quarantine, etc., etc..
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Yes, it's becoming almost more complex than 2020. Just watching Access All Areas now, and it seems as though everything is up for grabs. There's talk that games could swap rounds, that maybe the bye round before finals could be used if required to schedule any canceled games etc. It changes almost day to day.
Hopefully he plays and Stocker can massage his shoulder for him....
How many players have his presence and hardness with less then 20 games played. Has more then a little of Luke Hodge about him. What he did to Mihocek who is a big unit when the game was over typifies this kids intentions. Fav of mine this kid.
Also while on the kids I will eat humble pie with paddy Dow. Was willing to concede he won’t make it but was clearly wrong. Can see what others could now and all of a sudden this kid looks like he belongs. Could very well be an explosive mid that will compliment Walsh and Cripps nicely. Kennedy as well has finally delivered and even looks quicker his year. What a pity Cunningham went down as he was the one I thought was ready to explode.
How many players have his presence and hardness with less then 20 games played. Has more then a little of Luke Hodge about him. What he did to Mihocek who is a big unit when the game was over typifies this kids intentions. Fav of mine this kid.
Also while on the kids I will eat humble pie with paddy Dow. Was willing to concede he won’t make it but was clearly wrong. Can see what others could now and all of a sudden this kid looks like he belongs. Could very well be an explosive mid that will compliment Walsh and Cripps nicely. Kennedy as well has finally delivered and even looks quicker his year. What a pity Cunningham went down as he was the one I thought was ready to explode.
A lot of players step up with extra responsibility, Dow has more improvement in him as he still fades out of games and doesn't get big numbers but its his maturity with ball in hand that has made him impressive.
Stocker has big gonads and in our team that's been lacking for years, we need another couple like him to spread around the park.
Kudos to Matt Kennedy also for stepping up
and being a leader, nothing fancy about him but a good solid soldier who knows his limitations and gives us another stronger body around the ball.
TDK has also been sensational vs some tough hombres in the ruck...
I am looking forward to the McKay twins playing on one another......
I am looking forward to the McKay twins playing on one another......
Might be a tough day for Harry with brother Ben and Tarrant for company, hopefully we can spread the goals around.
Might be a tough day for Harry with brother Ben and Tarrant for company, hopefully we can spread the goals around.
Kick it in front of him and let him run onto it and he'll murder them. Bomb it in high on his head and he is a sitting duck. Its a simple game that is often made complicated for no apparent reason.
I am looking forward to the McKay twins playing on one another......
Likely to fight and wrestle each other all day, if you believe the way they talk about each other growing up.
Would like to see Ben at Carlton as a replacement for Jones who will is coming to the end of his career in the next couple of years.
Might be a tough day for Harry with brother Ben and Tarrant for company, hopefully we can spread the goals around.
If Cripps is fit, I’d like to see him spend a fair bit of time forward. He would demand attention from one of North’s key defenders and ease the pressure on Harry.
Likely to fight and wrestle each other all day, if you believe the way they talk about each other growing up.
Would like to see Ben at Carlton as a replacement for Jones who will is coming to the end of his career in the next couple of years.
If Ben comes to Carlton (which won’t happen), Harry would leave ::)
If Casboult is fit I think he plays....his form isn't great but it would take the pressure off TDK and Harry at times.
If Casboult is fit I think he plays....his form isn't great but it would take the pressure off TDK and Harry at times.
Do North play a 2nd ruckman?
Do North play a 2nd ruckman?
Tristan Xerri....big unit and can kick a goal, Goldstein rucks for 90% of the game usually so Xerri spends a lot of time forward or on the bench.
Tristan Xerri....big unit and can kick a goal, Goldstein rucks for 90% of the game usually so Xerri spends a lot of time forward or on the bench.
I think De Koning will have the backup covered, as long as we can give him some decent chop out against Goldstein.
Late in last weekends game, SoJ even won a tap against Grundy, and our guys started roving very well to Grundy's tap work. The thing with ruck work is, even if you lose, as long as you are smart about how you lose you can determine roughly where the taps will go.
I realise Norp won't be caught out as they've had a heads up, but I think it's worth another run to see if SoJ can find a way to persist. Goldstein isn't super mobile, if De Koning and SoJ can square a few contests and then use quick recovery to join the contest, it can work for us.
In any case, I won't be at all surprised to see Goldstein stay defensive side and float back in front of BigH.
I think De Koning will have the backup covered, as long as we can give him some decent chop out against Goldstein.
But late in last weekends game, SoJ even won a tap against Grundy, and our guys started roving very well to Grundy's tap work.
I realise Norp won't be caught out as they've had a heads up, but I think it's worth another run to see if SoJ can find a way to persist.
Grundy is a ball playing very fair minded player who doesnt do much damage physically to the opposition.
I'd expect Goldstein and Xerri to be a bit more physical than Grundy , playing pretend ruckman like Jack works for a while but
other teams will exploit it sooner than later and we will need Levi back. I wouldnt want to play Stkilda and Port with just TDK....
Grundy is a ball playing very fair minded player who doesnt do much damage physically to the opposition.
I'd expect Goldstein and Xerri to be a bit more physical than Grundy , playing pretend ruckman like Jack works for a while but
other teams will exploit it sooner than later and we will need Levi back. I wouldnt want to play Stkilda and Port with just TDK....
I think De Koning has dealt with Xerri before, but I could be wrong.
I agree about Goldstein being heavier opposition than Grundy, which is why De Koning will need more of a chop out than last week. However, if De Koning gets on his bike Goldstein will not keep up.
They have that other kid coming back from injury, the mid-season pick Jacob Edwards who was starring for Sandi, but I'm not sure he'll come straight into AFL. A tall skinny, 205cm x 90kg.
Might be a tough day for Harry with brother Ben and Tarrant for company, hopefully we can spread the goals around.
Yep, inside info.
people getting excited about kennedy but his game against cats was poor,but he was good against pies,just think club should wait before discussing contracts ,we will see how he goes on a quick track and a quick north.
people getting excited about kennedy but his game against cats was poor,but he was good against pies,just think club should wait before discussing contracts ,we will see how he goes on a quick track and a quick north.
Kennedy is primarily an inside mid, but he does OK, I think Cripps playing injured hasn't helped these guys much because they hang back when the captain is about.
I think De Koning has dealt with Xerri before, but I could be wrong.
I agree about Goldstein being heavier opposition than Grundy, which is why De Koning will need more of a chop out than last week. However, if De Koning gets on his bike Goldstein will not keep up.
Agree on TDK's mobility vs Goldstein, I think the Nth man might do a lot more resting up forward in this game as he can take a mark and Nth dont have much in terms of KP Forwards.
Two interesting players for Nth are Thomas and McDonald......the latter will take Walsh IMO and the former has gone to the next level as a player and will need a tag.
I'd expect a 5 goal plus win as Nth are very under equipped and have their fair share of joe average players...
I'd expect a 5 goal plus win as Nth are very under equipped and have their fair share of joe average players...
Yes, interestingly I thought the same thing, I reckon the result might come down to which team's B-Graders turn up on the day.
We can't expect guys like Walsh or Weitering to be the difference every week.
Yes, interestingly I thought the same thing, I reckon the result might come down to which team's B-Graders turn up on the day.
We can't expect guys like Walsh or Weitering to be the difference every week.
Noble is a decent coach in the making IMO along the lines of Fagan but doesnt have much to work with
so its a lot of improvisation/training drill type plays.
Aaron Hall has been one of their best this season and was amongst the footy vs Essendon but that tells you a bit about
how Nth are travelling..
Could we be cheeky and rest Cripps for this game?
Could we be cheeky and rest Cripps for this game?
I think in the short term it makes us harder to match up on because we become less predictable, but it's only a plus because we've been playing Cripps broken, once he is fit and firing it all changes.
If Cripps is fit and we think Cunnington is back I'd play Cripps rather than have Cunnington beat up on Walsh and Kennedy.
Cripps, Murphy and Casboult could be available for this game.
Who do we drop and who do we bring in?
I'd bring in Cripps rather than Casboult.
The Silvagni experiment is working, and he offers more around the ground over casboult. Cripps can play forward more and give Harry a chopout.
Maybe give Murphy a go if he is fit.
Those on the bubble....Cottrell, Newnes, Williamson.
Cripps for Newnes.
Murphy for Owies.
Cripps for Newnes.
Murphy for Owies.
Thats what was reported elsewhere, Owies offers more than Murphy as a small forward. Not having it.
Play Martin on the wing, drop Cottrell (who plays on the wing) and play Murphy forward if thats what you wanna do.
OR
Murphy on the wing for Cottrell.
Thought Cottrell was ok, I'd keep Owies in to work with Eddie while he has the chance...not sure why Murphy is an automatic in, other than the 300 game target.
Think I'd be playing Casboult as my second ruck vs Goldstein...like to tune him up for some bigger games where he will be needed in the ruck more. Jack has done a good job as a part time follower but reality will hit us when its Ryder/Marshall in a couple of weeks time and I'd want Levi up and running and tuning his ruckwork in the preceding games.
Murphy as the sub
I'd expect a 5 goal plus win as Nth are very under equipped and have their fair share of joe average players...
This is Carlton. I do not expect anything except the unexpected.
If Murphy is going to be an automatic in he has to contribute meaningfully. I know the history and the occasion, but no free rides.
If Murphy is going to be an automatic in he has to contribute meaningfully. I know the history and the occasion, but no free rides.
Absolutely! I’d love to see Murph get to 300 but, like every player on the list, he has to earn his spot each round.
Murphy as the sub
Does being the sub count as a game if they don’t take the field?
Its Ed's 200th and Charlie is harrassing the coaches trying to get back for this game.
Charlie was supposedly going to be back for next week.
Should we 'risk it' ?
Bring him back for Ed's 200th!
Casboult won't come up. It'd be good to have another athletic tall in the team.
Does being the sub count as a game if they don’t take the field?
Yes. He was a sub before he got injured and it counted. Just like a couple of first gamer's have been credited with a game without actually getting on the field.
Absolutely! I’d love to see Murph get to 300 but, like every player on the list, he has to earn his spot each round.
Agreed. Murphy is running out of time. He has 4 games to go with 5 games till the end of the season. We would have to make finals to guarantee his 300 if he cannot get on the field in the next couple of games.
On another note Eddie has 4 games to 350 so we should see that in round 22 barring injuries. Hope he gets there as well. Personally I cannot see why he could not play on next year the way he is playing ATM.
Some are assuming this will be Murphy's final season. Whilst it seems more likely than less, there's no indication from club or player one way or the other. There's a few different arrangements by which he could contribute next season, without necessarily being one of main playing group.
Its Ed's 200th and Charlie is harrassing the coaches trying to get back for this game.
Charlie was supposedly going to be back for next week.
Should we 'risk it' ? No.
Bring him back for Ed's 200th! No Be far better for Charlie, if ready, to come back the week after, that way each Curnow is a focus for each week - Charlie's return will be a massive event for him, club and supporters all on its Pat Malone. Let Ed have the limelight this week.
Casboult won't come up. It'd be good to have another athletic tall in the team.
Casboult won't come up. It'd be good to have another athletic tall in the team.
If the rumours are true, Levi's PCL injury is touch and go for him to even play again this season, he is a coin toss from immediate surgery. I suppose the club is in a tough spot, Pittonet recovering form surgery, De Koning is still a kid with a less than durable history, so I suppose if Levi is borderline he stays as an option that can play if needed be it with some hinderence.
In hindsight they probably should have addressed Levi's PCL when it first happened early in the season, and he could well be almost ready to resume now. Most PCL's excluding the most severe cases are back in about 12 weeks.
Oscar McDonald can't be far away.
If the rumours are true, his PCL injury is touch and go for him to even play again this season, he is a coin toss from immediate surgery.
Oscar McDonald can't be far away.
Oscar Levi and Mitch are all on the cusp of returning in the next couple weeks.
Oscar Levi and Mitch are all on the cusp of returning in the next couple weeks.
Sorry got me still editing.
I've heard Levi could play now, but in reality should be at least a month away.
Some are assuming this will be Murphy's final season. Whilst it seems more likely than less, there's no indication from club or player one way or the other. There's a few different arrangements by which he could contribute next season, without necessarily being one of main playing group.
I think that it will largely depend on whether Murph wants to go around again knowing that he is being overtaken by younger players. He could be of value as a depth player and mentor but I suspect that he will pull the pin.
Murphy for Owies.
With this change, we lose significant front half pressure that Owies gives us.
I think the most likely changes are Newnes, Cottrell or Williamson. I didn't think they did much wrong, but they struggled a bit to have an influence.
I'd personally like to see Williamson get more a run, so probably Newnes or Cottrell. Fisher, SPS and Dow didn't have great games, but they need so string some games together.
You could probably make an argument for Fogarty to go back to the 2s for a week at least.
It's tough to judge these players, because you don't know what directives they are given by the coaching staff, they may have played their role perfectly but still looked less than influential to fans!
I hope they do not drop Williamson then move SPS back to the HBF, that would be a backwards step.
I think the only place for sMurph to come in is off the bench and be prepared to play a role with limited midfield time unless things turn sour.
With this change, we lose significant front half pressure that Owies gives us.
Owies has been a good find. Like to leave him in the side. Last 2 weeks has been point kicking rather than goal kicking. Was kicking straight then got Carltonised....lol.
I think the most likely changes are Newnes, Cottrell or Williamson. I didn't think they did much wrong, but they struggled a bit to have an influence.
I'd personally like to see Williamson get more a run, so probably Newnes or Cottrell. Fisher, SPS and Dow didn't have great games, but they need so string some games together.
You could probably make an argument for Fogarty to go back to the 2s for a week at least.
It's tough to judge these players, because you don't know what directives they are given by the coaching staff, they may have played their role perfectly but still looked less than influential to fans!
I hope they do not drop Williamson then move SPS back to the HBF, that would be a backwards step.
I think the only place for sMurph to come in is off the bench and be prepared to play a role with limited midfield time unless things turn sour.
Murphy might do some medical sub time to get him to 300.
Owies has been a good find. Like to leave him in the side. Last 2 weeks has been point kicking rather than goal kicking. Was kicking straight then got Carltonised....lol.
Hes still kicking straight, just not through the big sticks, and could use a bit more depth in his kicking (flatter, rather than higher but its going straight thats a start).
Murphy might do some medical sub time to get him to 300.
Personally, I don't see guys like sMurph or Fogarty as value in the medical sub role, they should either be in or out, the sub for me needs to be more of a utility type like a Cottrell, Newnes or Williamson.
I appreciate being to medical sub too often is a real punishment.
I also think it's a bit pointless giving kids a medical sub role as their first game, it's happened at other clubs this season and I think it's also pointless.
If they change the rules for 2022 to increase the bench or the number of subs I reserve the right to change my opinion.
Owies has been a good find. Like to leave him in the side. Last 2 weeks has been point kicking rather than goal kicking. Was kicking straight then got Carltonised....lol.
I think opponents are pushing him further up the ground to get outside his comfortable range, a few more games and he'll get that sorted and get the timing right to find the space he needs in comfortable range.
At the rate these guys travel it's only a second either way and you are 10m out of position.
Kruddler....I thought the same on Charlie....is it worth the punt this week....milestone game for Ed and let him ease back into it. He'd be rusty no doubt but if there's absolutely no doubt about his fitness, it could be worth it? No huge expectations but it'd take some pressure off Harry and would force Tarrant onto a direct opponent.
I'd leave Owies in there....hasn't been great the last couple of weeks but he's been okay for the most part and has let Betts get up the ground a bit.
If Cripps is fit enough, he plays....they've got guys like Cunnington, Zurhaar, Simpkin who like to throw their weight around a bit. If he comes in, it's probably Newnes that goes out. I thought Cottrell was better last week that some of his earlier games.
Goldstein might not be quick or mobile as such, but look back to the game against the Eagles....he pushed forward late and left Nic Nat in the middle of the ground and took a big mark in the goal square. At least we'll have Jones and Weitering down back but TDK will need to get on his bike and run him up and down a bit.
how does plowman always escape criticism had a very poor game did nothing .
Pew...he's had some stinkers this year but I think he gets picked for a specific role each week. At the moment we don't really have a third tall option and too many of the defenders are offensive types that don't really lock down on an opponent as such....Stocker has been used in that role but I'd love to see him just play in the middle for a full game and leave the lockdown stuff to blokes like Newman and, unfortunately, Plowman.
how does plowman always escape criticism had a very poor game did nothing .
Plowman gets far more criticism than he deserves!
He's third behind Weitering and Jones for one percenters and he does a power of work covering for Williams and Saad when they head off up the ground.
What exactly did Plowman's direct opponent(s) do last game?
how does plowman always escape criticism had a very poor game did nothing .
Usually plays an accountable role and IMHO I'm more interested in what his man is doing than Plowman himself.
Players like Vlastuin, Broad, Grimes, Astbury have done the Accountable work at Richmond leaving the kick winning, rebounding stuff to Houli, Baker and Short. At times Vlastuin and Broad in particular can look a bit messy like Plowman but they often get the tough awkward players and are the defenders under most pressure. Plowman might look messy like his Tiger counterparts but you have to look past that at the stopping role he does and what his opponent his doing.
Collingwood kicked a very low score and none of their forwards got of the leash so I thought Plowman gets a pass as did his other defensive teammates.
Plowman is a team player. Hes often the one having to pick up "the loose" man and is getting across to the player that has pushed forward.
Plowman is a team player. Hes often the one having to pick up "the loose" man and is getting across to the player that has pushed forward.
Round 10…. We win vs Hawthorn, Plowman reported and injured.
Round 11, 12, 13 We lose all games, no Plowman (Papley, Ryan and Green all significant for their teams)
Round 14…..We win vs Adelaide, Plowman back in.
All coincidence of course.
Round 10…. We win vs Hawthorn, Plowman reported and injured.
Round 11, 12, 13 We lose all games, no Plowman (Papley, Ryan and Green all significant for their teams)
Round 14…..We win vs Adelaide, Plowman back in.
All coincidence of course.
I like Plowman, and I'd prefer him in the team, but you can go back and find plenty of games we've lost with him playing. You end up harming the point you're trying to make with that approach IMO.
Anything floating around about Brodie Kemp playing this week?
Regardless of their ladder position, the Kangabies are in good form... and that will be a greater challenge for us than some might realise. Possibly even a more difficult opponent than the inconsistent Dagpies.
Especially important game for - Kennedy, can he back it up? Consistency has been an issue for him. Similar for Dow, can he back it up and even improve? And can H put together 4 qtrs?
Really important, also, for Martin & Williams to back it up and improve.
Baggers....from memory last year Kennedy came back into the side for the game against the Roos and was very good....reckon he's pretty important for us in the middle at the moment without Cripps.
We need to be careful versus this mob, they think we're soft and I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of their choppers target the likes of Walsh. A few of their thugs have form against us.
Pretty sure Jed Anderson was a culprit last year and might be an inclusion this week. Simpkin thinks he's a heavweight too.
Ziebell hasn't been backward in nailing our little blokes in the past and Zurhaar is a deadset hound.... Pushes blokes into fences, tries to maim in marking contests, he's going to seriously injure somebody the way he goes about it.
I don't mind tough players, but abhor the hounds out there slyly "getting" blokes. The kind that need to concentrate more on the ball and less on the other bullsh1t, but hey, if the AFL won't sanction a couple of big name captains for questionable act, why expect the rank and file to play clean?
Anything floating around about Brodie Kemp playing this week?
I saw on IG that he kicked a goal and someone yelled out he's in.
Enz....that's what I saw and wondered if it meant anything. Would've been out by now if he was playing I think.
Regardless of their ladder position, the Kangabies are in good form... and that will be a greater challenge for us than some might realise. Possibly even a more difficult opponent than the inconsistent Dagpies.
Especially important game for - Kennedy, can he back it up? Consistency has been an issue for him. Similar for Dow, can he back it up and even improve? And can H put together 4 qtrs?
Really important, also, for Martin & Williams to back it up and improve.
Roos with Cunnington (who will be back this week) are a tough opponent. He takes care of the heavy lifting which makes life a lot easier for their youngsters.
IG post saying Kemp will make his debut this week!
Roos with Cunnington (who will be back this week) are a tough opponent. He takes care of the heavy lifting which makes life a lot easier for their youngsters.
We will definitely need to work hard to win this one.
IG post saying Kemp will make his debut this week!
From who?
north play modern game ,move the ball quickly all teams that play this way trouble us,just hope our coaching panel ready
I think even with Cunnington back who is a mean hombre around the coalface we should have Nth covered, they dont have much up forward now Ben Brown has left and our defense should be capable of keeping them to a low score.
I rate Noble as a coach and he knows how to build a list as he showed at Brisbane but they are still along way off us in terms of overall list talent IMO and this is a game we should win well with a bit more to play for in terms of still being in the hunt for finals and the coach needing to tally up some wins to cement his job.
I think even with Cunnington back who is a mean hombre around the coalface we should have Nth covered, they dont have much up forward now Ben Brown has left and our defense should be capable of keeping them to a low score.
I rate Noble as a coach and he knows how build a list as he showed at Brisbane but they are still along way off us in terms of overall list talent IMO and this is a game we should win well with a bit more to play for in terms of still being in the hunt for finals and the coach needing to tally up some wins to cement his job.
Yes EB, I agree that Noble has done a very good job after taking over a rabble. If North can notch another couple of wins he could be up for coach of the year.
Who was it who used to go troppo when someone used the term "danger game"? I don't think it's a danger game but, if we give North the slightest opportunity, they'll grab it.
Four quarters of good, hard footy and we'll notch up another win.
Yes EB, I agree that Noble has done a very good job after taking over a rabble. If North can notch another couple of wins he could be up for coach of the year.
Who was it who used to go troppo when someone used the term "danger game"? I don't think it's a danger game but, if we give North the slightest opportunity, they'll grab it.
Four quarters of good, hard footy and we'll notch up another win.
As others have said they might have the idea we are vulnerable to some physicality and attack players like Walsh, TDK etc
but as you say we need to be hard at the footy for 100mins and return fire if neccessary and our greater talent should prevail.
Main area that would concern me is Goldstein and their midfield group who probably lack a bit of class but are adept in the grunt work. TDK must be a tired lad after carrying the ruck duties for the last month....
From who?
Watched a video on Facebook that was put up. Looks like he's in.
Kemp in probably means that Murphy and/or Charlie are not.
Struggling to find 3 players worthy of being dropped from the side in order to make that happen. I don't think we have any new injuries.
Yes EB, I agree that Noble has done a very good job after taking over a rabble. If North can notch another couple of wins he could be up for coach of the year.
Who was it who used to go troppo when someone used the term "danger game"? I don't think it's a danger game but, if we give North the slightest opportunity, they'll grab it.
Four quarters of good, hard footy and we'll notch up another win.
Would be the first time we have done that this year since the praccy match v StK.
If Cripps is fit to play then that's two ins.....maybe Cottrell and Newnes outs?
If Cripps is fit to play then that's two ins.....maybe Cottrell and Newnes outs?
I'd make Kemp the sub.....Thought Cottrell was ok and Newnes gives us a harder body in what might be a
tough scrappy encounter with Nth trying to drag us down to their level.
EB....as Kruddler said, any outs would be a tad unlucky after last week but if Cripps is fit he's a definite in. Would be a bit harsh to name a kid for his debut and then park him on the bench I reckon. Hopefully in a few more weeks it'll be even more difficult for selectors if they have blokes like Charlie to choose from as well.
I'd make Kemp the sub.....Thought Cottrell was ok and Newnes gives us a harder body in what might be a
tough scrappy encounter with Nth trying to drag us down to their level.
Can't make Kemp the sub.
Make Murphy the sub if you want.
If someone gets dropped this week they'll be unlucky, but they could use the "managed" out on someone like Newnes, who did actually cop a knock to the back, if Cripps is available.
I'd make Kemp the sub.....
Should be an unwritten rule. Don’t make kids on their debut a sub. Imagine being sub, not getting on and the team wins….. very shallow ‘in the circle’ experience.
Put Ed Curnow onto Cunnington in a tagging role. Shut him down and put time into him physically. Who else does North have?
Walsh and co can play their game.
Cripps the only IN at this stage.
Backs:
Adam Saad
Liam Jones
Nic Newman
Half-backs:
Lachie Plowman
Jacob Weitering
Zac Williams
Centreline:
Ed Curnow
Patrick Cripps
Sam Walsh
Half-forwards:
Jack Newnes
Jack Martin
Jack Silvagni
Forwards:
Zac Fisher
Harry McKay
Eddie Betts
Followers:
Tom De Koning
Paddy Dow
Matthew Kennedy
Interchange:
Liam Stocker
Sam Petrevski-Seton
Tom Williamson
Matthew Cottrell
Emergencies:
Brodie Kemp
Matthew Owies
Marc Murphy
Lochie O'Brien
IN: Cripps
OUT: Owies (managed)
Good to get Crippa back for this one. Hopefully he’s at full fitness.
We could well end up needing him
Good to get Crippa back for this one. Hopefully he’s at full fitness.
Crippa going at half rat power is still a footballer to be reckoned with.
Hopefully, his teammates will build on last week and do the heavy lifting. It would be nice to see Crippa on the end of chains of possessions ... and kicking truly.
So much for Kemps debut. :s
Maybe a late out? With Kemp a late in? And Murphy as the sub??
So much for Kemps debut. :s
Maybe a late out? With Kemp a late in? And Murphy as the sub??
Could be a question mark over the fitness of Newnes & Williams... if so, I reckon you're on the money, Monsieur K - in Kemp, Murphy sub... gets another game toward his 300th.
So much for Kemps debut. :s
Maybe a late out? With Kemp a late in? And Murphy as the sub??
If Kemp is to make his debut this season, and I hope he does, I’m sure there will be quite a bit of fuss made; announcement and guernsey presentation in a team meeting.
Should be an unwritten rule. Don’t make kids on their debut a sub. Imagine being sub, not getting on and the team wins….. very shallow ‘in the circle’ experience.
I'll disagree, for me its a taste of senior footy and I'd make sure they did get on for 5-10 minutes if the game was won.
Chucking a kid in for a full game in a pressure situation when we are in the hunt for finals and the coach is under the pump
is unfair, especially one who has been playing down back. Sub this week, full game next week if it suits is how I would play it....
Crippa going at half rat power is still a footballer to be reckoned with.
Hopefully, his teammates will build on last week and do the heavy lifting. It would be nice to see Crippa on the end of chains of possessions ... and kicking truly.
I admire your confidence DJC but I don’t think half rat power will cut it against the likes of Cunnington.
His team mates will certainly need to be backing him to the hilt.
I admire your confidence DJC but I don’t think half rat power will cut it against the likes of Cunnington.
His team mates will certainly need to be backing him to the hilt.
I'd say he will be managed Cookie, would think Kennedy or Curnow would take Cunnington. Cant see Cripps playing FT in the middle and think he will spend some time forward where Nth have one of the weaker defenses and he will probably cause a mismatch or too and hopefully wont be needed too much in the middle.
I'd say he will be managed Cookie, would think Kennedy or Curnow would take Cunnington. Cant see Cripps playing FT in the middle and think he will spend some time forward where Nth have one of the weaker defenses and he will probably cause a mismatch or too and hopefully wont be needed too much in the middle.
Fair enough EB. I am a bit concerned though as to who Cunnington might take, he may go for Cripps or Walsh and the decision won’t be ours? Agree, Cripps forward could be on the cards esp. with Charlie not playing.
Fair enough EB. I am a bit concerned though as to who Cunnington might take, he may go for Cripps or Walsh and the decision won’t be ours? Agree, Cripps forward could be on the cards esp. with Charlie not playing.
Cookie, Think Cunnington is usually the hunted and like Cripps doesnt really man up the opposition...noticed Nth have included
Jed Anderson so they intend to play it hard and tough in close and I'd expect Anderson to take either Cripps or Walsh with Luke McDonald taking the other player.
EB I have a recollection of Cunnington going on to Cripps in a game a year or two ago and giving him a particularly hard time. I could be mistaken but that vision is there. I recall it was maybe a combination of him and Ziebell.
I think this week we have moved into ‘team consolidation’ mode by trying to settle the team while finals are now seemingly back on the radar, especially with the back 6 and mid field. The final 4 rounds will be different selections if we fall out of calculation. Weitering was emphatic post match that finals were still an aim. Imagine the effect on the playing group if we went ‘experimental’ at selection this week.
Two on ballers from the 2017 draft.
Paddy Dow Pick 3
Luke Davies Uniacke Pick 4
…..(then J Stevenson a few picks later)
EB I have a recollection of Cunnington going on to Cripps in a game a year or two ago and giving him a particularly hard time. I could be mistaken but that vision is there. I recall it was maybe a combination of him and Ziebell.
I think you are right Cookie and I remember that game...
There's always one or two that bob up and trouble us, hope we do our home work. We owe Mr Zurhaar a hard time, looking fwd to Jone and him getting reacquainted. He needs to be kept in check as he can do damage.
Maybe Stocker gets the job on Stephenson? Stephenson was very damaging against WCE a few weeks ago and they didn't pay him any respect.
Maybe Stocker gets the job on Stephenson? Stephenson was very damaging against WCE a few weeks ago and they didn't pay him any respect.
Stocker would break Stephenson in half if he tackled him or bumped him like he did to Mihocek.
Here's hoping GTC >:(
Some chatter about that Kemp will come in late for someone. Martin maybe managed? Harry supposed has a sore toe (I noticed he had strange taping on his boot last week).
Harry supposed has a sore toe (I noticed he had strange taping on his boot last week).
There was a video grab of someone landing on his boot during the game, it also happened to a Filth player.
Sam Edmunds report McKay will be a late out.
Sam Edmunds report McKay will be a late out.
So after 6 years in the system, H and B will have to wait until next season to play on each other.
Confirmed!!!!
We'll field just about the shortest team ever?.....TDK, Jones and Weitering and that's about it.
Expect Cripps to spend more time up forward.
He’s taller and as heavy as Wayne Carey!!
Confirmed!!!!
Yep, thats gonna hurt. He loves the fast deck at Marvel.
Wonder if there was any temptation to play Charlie this week?
Wonder if there was any temptation to play Charlie this week?
No guts no glory. I could only imagine how much he pestered Russell and Teague to let him play alongside Big Bro for his 200th.
If the club knew about this it makes the selections a tad strange, because you would think we'll have to play SoJ forward which removes him from resting ruck duties!
Surely we won't be rucking Cripps in the middle! :o
As much as I love Crippa, he's not a patch on the others as a forward option.
Kennedy out of the midfield and forward would be almost a crime after his last two weeks, so who if it's not SoJ that goes forward?
We couldn't get a kick in a horse stable
Might even have to play Jones forward and in the ruck and back Weitering in to cover Larkey.
Might even have to play Jones forward and in the ruck and back Weitering in to cover Larkey.
Funny, I thought the very reverse, I had a lot of exposure to Weiters as a KPF when he was a junior I can tell you unequivocally he can play as a KPF, but even that is tempting fate. I don't want to see Weiters rucking in the middle, at stoppages inside the arc is OK if needed.
Jones did do OK in the VFL when he had to ruck in rotations with Kerr(Pat), but we've never seen Jones ruck in the AFL.
It almost feels a late change is required to get this sorted, Kemp in a debut reshuffle, Charlie won't play this week?
WTF is going on with our injuries..
All the talk is about the Tiggers injury crisis. FARK…
I was confident about tomorrow now I’m shaken in my moon boots. This will be a good test of our coaching group.
Outside of the box strategy required. I would play the skipper out of the square and leave the back 6 as they are….
Another question is what are North going to do, who do Ben Mc and Walker play on? Especially when SOS is having a run in the ruck. Could we turn that in to an advantage somehow? Time for some creative coaching. Get the ball on the ground as quick as possible and let the smalls go to work. Maybe lots of rotations through the mid and forward between Crippa, Kennedy, Martin, Samo, Fish. Never let the defence settle, lots of forward movement and no bombs in. Or Maybe just stick Walsh at Full forward, the way he's going he'll kick 10!
play Charlie.
play Charlie.
Not even Carlton could be that stupid could they, that would reek of desperation. Out for 2 years, plays half a game in a scratch match and they throw him in to a game where our key forward is out and he would be the main target, surely not. Back the guys in that have been performing ok the last few weeks.
At the start of the year, we were all wondering how we could fit Harry, Charlie, Levi and the Gov into the one forward line.
It would have been nice to have at least one of them playing tomorrow.......
At the start of the year, we were all wondering how we could fit Harry, Charlie, Levi and the Gov into the one forward line.
It would have been nice to have at least one of them playing tomorrow.......
Or Pitto fit so he and TDK could rotate forward, or at least McDonald ...Never seen so many talls injured at once.
Cripps might have to play FF given Kennedy and Dow held up last week in the middle. Temptation is to play Charlie but I'd just hold off for another week. Bit of adversity might see Cripps stand up and do what a few of us think he should be doing and thats spend more time forward and learn the craft. His kicking is wonky from 30m plus out but I'd back him to kick a few from closer in and a good player is going to have to play on him so others might get more opportunities like Betts, Martin and Owies.
We need to lower the eyes pin point a few players in space down forward and give the long bomb kick away.
Good test for coach and players to think their way through a bit of adversity and I'd rather lose Harry vs Nth than any other team..
Not even Carlton could be that stupid could they, that would reek of desperation. Out for 2 years, plays half a game in a scratch match and they throw him in to a game where our key forward is out and he would be the main target, surely not. Back the guys in that have been performing ok the last few weeks.
Every other team would do it to us and we would play their man into form.
He doesn't need to be on all game and he doesn't need to be the 'main target'.....
Having multiple targets is the right plan clearly, but Charlie would be way too swift for Ben McKay or Walker.....
Cripps to play FF is a no brainer. It's as obvious as making sure your COVID bus driver has been vaccinated and has a mask on.
Oh, ... wait a minute :o
Without H we are in real trouble. he has been the dominant forward of the year and we just don't have anyone else to do the job. Not to mention our stupid way of delivering the ball to our forwards.
Cripps to play FF is a no brainer. It's as obvious as making sure your COVID bus driver has been vaccinated and has a mask on.
Oh, ... wait a minute :o
If they won't pick Chuck, play Kemp.
I've heard he's 195cm now, and we know he's just as competent forward as down back.
And an unknow commodity from the opponent's pov.
If they won't pick Chuck, play Kemp.
I've heard he's 195cm now, and we know he's just as competent forward as down back.
And an unknow commodity from the opponent's pov.
Kemp must have grown in the last couple of weeks :)
I'd like to see him get a run soon and I think he has earned it. He has done quite well against key forwards in the VFL but that's a long way from matching up against McKay and Walker.
To be fair to the lad, he should be given a similar role to his VFL role when he does make his debut.
Cripps, Silvagni and De Koning will get the job done :)
Matthew Owies will come into the 22 while Lachie Fogarty has been named as an emergency.
Structurally or fwd line is limited. Let's hope Jack, Jack, Jack, Zac, Matt, and Eddie can keep the pressure on to create F50 stoppages. Can't see us with many marks i50.
Go Blues
Structurally or fwd line is limited.
I would have used a different word to ‘limited’!! (Fu- - - - might be more appropriate!!)
Well this week will be a real test of our depth and ability of the coaches to move around the magnets well enough to eek out a win. Dont need anything pretty, just get the right result injuries or not.
This will tell us whether Teague can coach or not, because this week he's going to have to move the magnets not set and forget.
Lets look at our KPF's depth chart..
1. McKay - Injured
2. C. Curnow - Injured
3. Casboult - Injured
4. McGovern - Injured
5. McDonald - Injured
6. Silvagni - playing.....but is also backup ruck.
7* TDK - Playing 1st ruck because, yep, Pittonet is injured.
8* Cripps - coming back from injury, and a midfielder, but perhaps our best option up forward......despite not being able to actually kick.
....and people say injuries are not an excuse and injuries do not lead to players playing out of position. :o
North are bottom of the ladder, no excuses.
North are bottom of the ladder, no excuses.
That BS logic gets coaches sacked.
North are bottom of the ladder, no excuses.
They're in very good form, MBB. Their ladder position is not an accurate reflection of their recent form.
McKay didn't play last season and McGovern did a hammy early we should too much class for them.
As there are no spectators, does the roof at Darklands still have to stay open? It may be to our advantage if it does.
McKay didn't play last season and McGovern did a hammy early we should too much class for them.
They were missing Ziebell and Cunnington last time we played, like Zurhaar on Jones Ziebell takes particular delight in ironing out Carlton opponents.
I hope Ed does a good lock down job on Cunnington, that might just about be enough to swing it in our favour. But I wouldn't be surprised to find Ed doing a defensive forward role on Ziebell, Ziebell is usually far more damaging against us than Cunnington or Uniacke.
They're in very good form, MBB. Their ladder position is not an accurate reflection of their recent form.
Agree with MBB, they dont really have many guns to fire....no Brown anymore, Tarrant also out.
Only problem is their midfield where they have some hard bodied players supported by one of the better rucks in the comp.
If the intensity and attack on the ball is there we shouldnt have any problems, if we have players not wanting to contest properly or thinking Walsh and Cripps will save the day again we will get knocked over.
Agree with MBB, they dont really have many guns to fire....no Brown anymore, Tarrant also out.
Only problem is their midfield where they have some hard bodied players supported by one of the better rucks in the comp.
If the intensity and attack on the ball is there we shouldnt have any problems, if we have players not wanting to contest properly or thinking Walsh and Cripps will save the day again we will get knocked over.
Tarrant out won't hurt them. He doesn't have a matchup this week anyway.
You are not worried about where our goals will come from?
Lets try this....
TDK / Silvagni
Cripps
Kennedy
xxxxxx
That is most likely our go to midfield setup. Obviously with others filling the 4th spot and rotating through...Dow, Curnow, Walsh, etc.
That also happens to be our best KPF options available on our list.....all 4 of them.
So how do we get them playing midfield AND forward at the same time? We will be robbing Peter to pay Paul and vice versa.
It is quite possible that we win the midfield battle, but lose up forward. Then we could swing some changes to win up forward, but then not get the ball down there after losing the midfield battle.
Tarrant out won't hurt them. He doesn't have a matchup this week anyway.
You are not worried about where our goals will come from?
Lets try this....
TDK / Silvagni
Cripps
Kennedy
xxxxxx
That is most likely our go to midfield setup. Obviously with others filling the 4th spot and rotating through...Dow, Curnow, Walsh, etc.
That also happens to be our best KPF options available on our list.....all 4 of them.
So how do we get them playing midfield AND forward at the same time? We will be robbing Peter to pay Paul and vice versa.
It is quite possible that we win the midfield battle, but lose up forward. Then we could swing some changes to win up forward, but then not get the ball down there after losing the midfield battle.
Would have thought Martin and Betts would be too classy for their opponents and kick a few goals this week..
Id think about playing Liam Jones at full forward and line up like we did against the cats. Or this might be plan b if owies, cripps, betts, Martin and co aren't getting the job done.
Would have thought Martin and Betts would be too classy for their opponents and kick a few goals this week..
and how do we get the ball to them? Dribble it inside 50?
With no big marking forwards to worry about, they just need to defend the corridor and guard space there.
Small forwards pushed to the boundary to get marks inside 50, where conversion chances are low. You need key forwards leading to create space and or create crumbs.
We better hope we get a lot of turnovers in the middle and/or free kicks to get the ball forward in a hurry. If they have time to setup we are going to struggle to score.
Id think about playing Liam Jones at full forward and line up like we did against the cats. Or this might be plan b if owies, cripps, betts, Martin and co aren't getting the job done.
I think this is a better plan than relying solely on small forwards.
Keep our midfield strong and limit the ball going inside D50.
Use Jones forward to create crumbs and let the small forwards go from there.
Cripps at CHF and play Betts out of the goalsquare. Reads it very well and might sneak a couple on the lead. Might throw the opposition off.
Id think about playing Liam Jones at full forward and line up like we did against the cats. Or this might be plan b if owies, cripps, betts, Martin and co aren't getting the job done.
I dont think Jones will move outside the def half (mostly) for the rest of his career at Carlton.
Turner, Hall, Atley, Walker, and a young L plater in Ben McKay isnt exactly the next AA defense, if we cant get contributors to kick a few goals vs those blokes we might as well give it away....
Williams and Martin should both be big contributors today and pay back some of the faith shown in them..
and how do we get the ball to them? Dribble it inside 50?
With no big marking forwards to worry about, they just need to defend the corridor and guard space there.
Small forwards pushed to the boundary to get marks inside 50, where conversion chances are low. You need key forwards leading to create space and or create crumbs.
We better hope we get a lot of turnovers in the middle and/or free kicks to get the ball forward in a hurry. If they have time to setup we are going to struggle to score.
Richmond won a flag with one key forward and five little blokes, must have been a lot of dribbling....Nth are on the bottom for a reason, they are 5 years behind us in a rebuild with a novice coach.
Time for our coach to show why he should be there next year and some big money players to deliver......
Richmond won a flag with one key forward and five little blokes, must have been a lot of dribbling....Nth are on the bottom for a reason, they are 5 years behind us in a rebuild with a novice coach.
Time for our coach to show why he should be there next year and some big money players to deliver......
Thats one more than we have today.
FWIW, Murphy the sub.
I can't help but think "Why didn't we play Charlie?" as being the #1 question asked by one and all after this game.
I can't help but think "Why didn't we play Charlie?" as being the #1 question asked by one and all after this game.
I thought about this and then realised that the marvel car park isn't the best place for Charlie and we might do well to not play him there ever again.
I thought about this and then realised that the marvel car park isn't the best place for Charlie and we might do well to not play him there ever again.
Just sit him in the goal square and put his hand up in the air.
I can't help but think "Why didn't we play Charlie?" as being the #1 question asked by one and all after this game.
I guess getting rid of a few talls has come back to bite us now we have injuries....Just the one in say Pat Kerr would have been handy just to have a big body on the park who could contest. Its not like Nth are flush with quality talls down back either now Tarrant is out. Even our mate Ben Crocker might have been handy as a mobile FF.....
I guess getting rid of a few talls has come back to bite us now we have injuries....Just the one in say Pat Kerr would have been handy just to have a big body on the park who could contest. Its not like Nth are flush with quality talls down back either now Tarrant is out. Even our mate Ben Crocker might have been handy as a mobile FF.....
Why didn't we pick up Crocker might be the #2 question being asked!
Why didn't we pick up Crocker might be the #2 question being asked!
Probably because he's not good/big enough for AFL :-\
McDonald was supposed to provide cover for our talls :(
Probably because he's not good/big enough for AFL :-\
McDonald was supposed to provide cover for our talls :(
McDonald was injured, and was going to continue to be for a couple of months, when we had the chance to get Crocker.
Crocker would be our 3rd tallest forward today behind Cripps and Silvagni today.