Can we have any more good players out?
This one isn't going to be easy.
Very nervous about this one. Betts aside, a very inexperienced fwd line.
Simpkin on Walsh according to Ling.
Terrible defensive skills in the middle from SPS.
Saad... one of the best kicks to a forward I've ever seen. Brilliant.
Gotta be more active, Crippa.
This has been the most Carlton first quarter ever
Here we go, 2.4 2 of which were regulation shots.
Here we go, 2.4 2 of which were regulation shots.
I was thinking the same.
I dont want to put the moz on him but Dow's disposal has improved out of site.
Here we go, 2.4 2 of which were regulation shots.
Don't forget the 2 that were marked on the line by shots coming from inside 50 as well.
2.5 to 3.1
Don't forget the 2 that were marked on the line by shots coming from inside 50 as well.
SPS as an AFL player should have slotted it, cant kick over a jam tin.
Please let's not let our goalkicking beat our team... again 🤞
14 i50 for what - 17pts
You have all the play and dominate only to go in at QTR time behind because you cant complete the deal. craps me to tears.
SPS as an AFL player should have slotted it, cant kick over a jam tin.
You don't want to call out the other player that had it marked on the line? Just focussing on SPS??
Can't our side actually kick straight. Like really!
Please let's not let our goalkicking beat our team... again 🤞
14 i50 for what - 17pts
Very disappointing, all the hard word for nothing.
You have all the play and dominate only to go in at QTR time behind because you cant complete the deal. craps me to tears.
Well....when you don't have a forwardline and its made up of misfits to a large extent....
You don't want to call out the other player that had it marked on the line? Just focussing on SPS??
No, thats just the one I remember.
You have all the play and dominate only to go in at QTR time behind because you cant complete the deal. craps me to tears.
Unfortunately we have no H to turn that around. Who's going to complete the play?
Please stand up now!
No, thats just the one I remember.
That doesn't surprise me. He's your whipping boy.
Unfortunately we have no H to turn that around. Who's going to complete the play?
Please stand up now!
There are 22 AFL (supposedly) standard out there who should be able to kick those. We aren't talking high degree of difficulty shots, all inside 50, slight to no angle and they miss. Commentators talking about it now.
Well....when you don't have a forwardline and its made up of misfits to a large extent....
We sometimes have 8 players kicking goals. We need that today more than ever without KPF
SPS standing off the ball and player is driving me nuts. Needs to take some body contact FFS!
Well....when you don't have a forwardline and its made up of misfits to a large extent....
Only want them to kick straight.
Murdering us on the counter.
Defence is a shambles.
I've changed my mind, move Cripps out of FF.
We need to take advantage of our smalls rather than attempt to use Cripps as a half tall, playing like a tall.
He isn't good/big enough to beat McKay in the air, or on the lead, so piss him off out of there.
Silvagni/Kennedy/Martin as our FF who can beat McKay on the lead and on the ground is a better matchup for us.
And then they kick those, FMD.
Lucky to get that free i reckon.
Even luckier to kick it from there.....especially given it was Cripps!
SPS and Betts off the ground according to Ling.
Eddie won;t come back....so there goes our best remaining forward.
FMD!
Betts gone
SPS and Betts off the ground according to Ling.
Don't listen to Ling.
SPS is out there.
Cripps has 2 handball options and ignores them to kick long to nobody.
Cripps has 2 handball options and ignores them to kick long to nobody.
At least he hit nobody.
Had he tried to kick it to someone, he would've missed!
When Martin's kicking is on, its beautiful to watch.
At least he hit nobody.
Had he tried to kick it to someone, he would've missed!
I'm actually happy with a chaos ball where we have a 50% chance.
I'm actually happy with a chaos ball where we have a 50% chance.
Agree.
Shouldn't have got to that option though. Handball it!
TDK doing his best Walker impersonation! :o
The old story, Millionaires vs Work Horses. Need a change in attitude very quickly or this game will get away from us.
Eddie is ok
I think Williams has done a hamstring
Yep.....signalling to come off now.
We've had 8 players hit the scoreboard, inreased our pressure q2, and had the rub of the green. Yet....
Hope they continue the pressure and if they tidy up goalkicking, we're a good chance.
Go Blues
Certainly a very even contest. North have the upper hand in a few key statistical indicators, we have the upper hand in others. I wasn't expecting it to be quite this close.
Temporarily out of the 8 on percentage.
Mightn't help much if we don't get players back soon. Geelong we tried to get all the numbers back to protect out lack of height. This time much higher up but we get caught the other way. Can't be easy with a restricted number of soldiers.
Need Kennedy in the middle.
Forward line coach must impress upon Crippa to move about more, bring to ground in contests and to look for team mates more when in possession.
Murphy to come on (replacing Williams)? If so, a forward line of Betts, Owies and Murphy is a concern! Might be time to kick grubbers into the forward arc!!!
I reckon Murphy will be on for Williams in the 2nd half.
I reckon Betts got a jab and will continue to play, but will largely be a non-event from here, expect to see plenty of tap ons from him, rather than grabbing, weaving and kicking.
I don't really care what happens from here, as long as we come out with the 4 points....and hopefully no more injuries!
Hopefully Charlie and Harry back next week (Maybe casboult too?) and our team dynamic is like night and day with today.
I think Williams has done a hamstring
Yep.....signalling to come off now.
Confirmed.
Murphy on for him.
WOW
Any chance we man up Stevenson.
He will end up with 6
Can't believe the injury run this season.....will be a miracle win from here.
Our defenders getting sucked up the ground and burnt.
Stephenson torched WCA a few weeks ago because they didn't pay him any respect and let him run loose. Would've thought Stocker or Cottrell could go with him?
Temporarily out of the 8 on percentage.
We cannot and will not make the 8
Plowman having to cover Larkey deep and giving away 3-4 inches doing it!
Making us look darken stupid now.
Pressure gauge Carlton poor. No crap.
We are a joke of a football club
Larkey is a strong mark, needs double teaming...
Game over just about
Larkey is a strong mark, needs double teaming...
I reckon he has the Delta variant and has shown our backs the test results.
This is so depressing ans im so pissed off with this performance
We've got noone to kick too coming out of defence.
We will still get our chance from here, but need to kick straight!
Murphy's on the ground = Loss guaranteed
Yeah that'll do it.
Book the surgeries and footy trip fellas.
I've seen enough, later guys and gals.
This will cost Weitering his AA spot.
What a fvcking joke of a club!
Disgusting
A bottom young side kicks 4 unanswered goals q3. We are held goalless...
Not a hope...
You can’t have this amount of injuries and have it not catch up with us. If it was the Tiggers you wouldn’t here the end of it.
We just don’t bat that deep……
High Performance Team report to the review office….. another Hammy
Time to throw the magnets up in the air and play them where they land.
This will cost Weitering his AA spot.
What game are you watching? Who has kicked goals on him?
20 other blokes being questioned before you get to him
What game are you watching? Who has kicked goals on him?
20 other blokes being questioned before you get to him
I would pick him first in the AA team but you know Darcy or whoever are looking for excuses not to.
Getting pumped by the bottom team and please don’t tell me we would be in this if McKay was playing. Getting creamed all over the ground against the last placed team.
Yep the 18th side in the comp is embarrassing us.
We are the Washington Generals
You can’t have this amount of injuries and have it not catch up with us. If it was the Tiggers you wouldn’t here the end of it.
We just don’t bat that deep……
High Performance Team report to the review office….. another Hammy
This is effort. Not injuries. No pressure, no running back.
What a disgrace
39 i50 for 40pts
All coaches report to the review office……
Zac Williams obviously provides much to our team and him going off has been massive
3 kids kick 10 goals against us. Unfathomable
Bottom farking team kicked 7 goals in a term.
As J Brown just said you have to be disappointed being a Carlton supporter.
YEP your right.
They looked crap from Get go. Absolutely disgusting performance. No H is no excuse.
We are the Washington Generals
No better description of this club! Just perfect! 👌🤣
Zac Williams obviously provides much to our team and him going off has been massive
Who came on for him?
Zac Williams obviously provides much to our team and him going off has been massive
Is this a joke. One week we want him dropped the next we are losing because of him.
Please.
Who came on for him?
a very much finished marc murphy
Season over. Not looking good for Teague.
Season over. Not looking good for Teague.
F*** this talk.
I tried telling everyone we were screwed before the ball was bounced. Nobody would listen.
"Oh, but its ONLY 18th."
look at the teams out there!
FWIW, our last 3 against North.
L - by 7 points
L - by 10 goals
L - by 100 points
ONLY 18th.....is a team that has had our number for a while
Player availability / injury ? Coaching ? Review ? The loss we had to have ?
Take your pick.
Kruddler trying to justify why we should be losing to the bottom side isn't doing the coach any favours.
Player availability / injury ? Coaching ? Review ? The loss we had to have ?
Take your pick.
Lack of effort.
Kruddler trying to justify why we should be losing to the bottom side isn't doing the coach any favours.
I don't know if i have a Crystal ball that nobody else seems to have, but i've been pretty bang on with what games we are going to win and what games we are going to lose. I was warning everybody that this was not the game everyone thought it was going to be and said why.
Nobody wanted to listen to logic.
Instead, they prefer their torches and pitchforks because we are Carlton and we make irrational decisions!
edit: and its not that we SHOULD be losing, its that its far more likely than anyone wants to believe.
Lack of effort.
To what do you attribute this lack of effort ?
To what do you attribute this lack of effort ?
How many times do you run into a wall before you lose confidence in your ability to get past it?
They're winning the ball. We haven't laid a tackle for a quarter. No excuses for that IMO
Playing Weitering forward is why Plowman is forced to play above his height. Has to play in front because he has no hope of spoiling from behind. Jonno Brown should understand that rather than continuing to whack Plowman.
Larkey with 6. Defense?
Playing Weitering forward is why Plowman is forced to play above his height. Has to play in front because he has no hope of spoiling from behind. Jonno Brown should understand that rather than continuing to whack Plowman.
Can't play on talls, can't play on smalls, can't play on gun medium forwards. Maybe he just isn't that good?
Slumped back, with vengeance, to our old ways... totally unmotivated group. Sharp coaching from Kangabies to address our weaknesses and hit 'em hard, chief among them - relentless pressure.
Can't play on talls, can't play on smalls, can't play on gun medium forwards. Maybe he just isn't that good?
Name the last player he played on that there wasn't a 3" height difference one way or another!
Nothing short of incredible. Same number of scoring shots..
Name the last player he played on that there wasn't a 3" height difference one way or another!
Maybe we should ask the opposition to play a good match up for him each week.
Nothing short of incredible. Same number of scoring shots..
As i predicted pre-game though, look at where we are generally forced to take our shots from?
Boundary line or on the 50.
They are sitting their talls in the hotspot and we don't have any talls to compete in the air, so we are forced wide as a result.
Maybe we should ask the opposition to play a good match up for him each week.
If we had anyone better, they'd be in the team.
What has Willo done all game?
How was that a mark or free kick?
Can't play on talls, can't play on smalls, can't play on gun medium forwards. Maybe he just isn't that good?
Yep. Serviceable when it doesn’t matter and a rabbit in the headlight when the pressure comes.
If we ever become a good team the likes of plowman Curnow Williamson Cottrell wont be in the side.
Willo playing on a bloke his own size has 4 kicked on him.
Plowman wouldn't have allowed that......but letting Willo attempt what Plowman has been asked to do would mean Larkey would have 10. Keeping in mind half of his goals were kicked on Jones!
10 goal loss to the bottom team.
How mortifying
Plowman makes the spoil on Larkey (playing in front) then sits 10m in front of him and ends up getting the R50 as a result.
Opposite of what Browny has been banging on about, and would get missed by most.....but not the coaches.
So predictable... Kangabies ease up with pressure, and we emerge, then they reapply pressure and we do poos in dacks again. Story of our club for too many years that our opponents dictate too often how we'll play. Plus we consistently fail to understand our opponents. But credit where it is due, Noble has coached extremely well this year... took a mob of no names from early disaster to highly competitive against all opponents by season's end.
We hand the bottom side a record score for the season, while our season is on the line. This review is going to be interesting.
10 goal loss to the bottom team.
How mortifying
Yep. This is one of the most mentally weak collection of footballer ever.
Disgusting.
We hand the bottom side a record score for the season, while our season is on the line. This review is going to be interesting.
Don't believe the hype, we were almost zero chance of making finals even if we won all 5. Needed those above us to lose the unloseable matches each week.
Knew with our poor attitude and lack of true motivation that we wouldn't keep up the effort of the last few week. This 2nd half has been nothing short of shameful. Time to start weeding the non-workers out the door letting be a warning to others. Buy in or fk off. no more turning up for the pay cheque. Simply have to get to the root of the problem otherwise we still talk about this $hit in 20 years.
Time for a semi clean out. SPS, Williamson, Betts and Cotteral all in trouble. The lack of effort at times is astounding. Too many of the same sort. Just so disappointing again. Not sure this will ever change, the club is broken.
Shameful
Our defence (measured by score against) has really tightened up since the bye, but clearly they dropped their bundle today.
We gave the bottom side 13 goals in the 2nd half. The review needs to start with the players.
Disappointed for Curnow's 200th.
COACH KILLER……….
Hey laj, any more laj stats? Maybe try this, if the club wins every game by 300 points we're in the 8 right?
Tell me the valuable contributions Murphy makes... Dude I'm all ears... 🤣
Let’s move to the post game thread guys.