Here is the post game thread. Enjoy.
What a disaster. How to celebrate Murphy's 300th. Embarassing.
This effort is Pagan/Boltonesque.
It's one thing we hadn't seen under Teague. Generally they are competitive efforts, on the scoreboard anyway. Means the players have given up on him like they did with those two coaches.
Next sucker!
The club is unrepairable. The damage done twenty years ago remains to this day. Its almost at shut the door stage.
Was that as ugly on the TV as it was on the radio? That was hard to listen to. Just opened the door to our ladder position for the Hawks. I expected 8 to 10 goals at worst. Thank god it wasn’t 100 points. Media will be ridding Teague into the ground on this result.
That was the final nail for sure Mants.
We'll be lucky if a coach will actually want to come to us.
No chance Clarko will come here. Bolton will soon tell him what to expect and talk him out of it. He'll have better choices.
23pts up, flying, and lost by 95.
No effort. No system. No passion. No pride. No purpose. No conscious.
As a long term forever hopeful member, I see no hope for this club.
We'll be lucky if a coach will actually want to come to us.
No chance Clarko will come here. Bolton will soon tell him what to expect and talk him out of it. He'll have better choices.
Well Clarko’s price would just have at least doubled.
That was a bloody awful effort. No sense hiding it ... capitulation. Exactly what Nicholls was talking about ... and Marc as well.
Some sides struggle to get players to their club. We could actually struggle to get a coach. They've seen what has happened over 20 years and the number of coaches with their reputation in tatters. No-one will want to come.
Well, LoGuidice, Board and Liddle, you share the blame for this. This is what happens when you do not apply due diligence when appointing someone to the exceedingly important position of senior coach of our once great club. As if you didn't learn from the previous 'training wheels' senior coach, you went and repeated the dose... seduced by talk of a more offense game plan.
To the Board & Liddle. If you people have any semblance of decency and responsibility, you owe it to our players, especially the young blokes, to appoint someone to lead these kids, someone who knows how to lead and engender and educate these kids with an approach and strategy that will enable them to get the best out of themselves, and enjoy their careers.
No more populist, expedient decisions devoid of due process. No more inaction. No more excuses and trusting the status quo. Make the change. Do it for the kids. You owe them that.
Well Clarko’s price would just have at least doubled.
He's already on a million to do nothing next year. Why would he want the stress of Carlton.
Well, LoGuidice, Board and Liddle, you share the blame for this. This is what happens when you do not apply due diligence when appointing someone to the exceedingly important position of senior coach of our once great club.
Explain to me what is more diligent than watching "an applicant / potential" coach almost half a season in front of you?
Well, LoGuidice, Board and Liddle, you share the blame for this. This is what happens when you do not apply due diligence when appointing someone to the exceedingly important position of senior coach of our once great club. As if you didn't learn from the previous 'training wheels' senior coach, you went and repeated the dose... seduced by talk of a more offense game plan.
To the Board & Liddle. If you people have any semblance of decency and responsibility, you owe it to our players, especially the young blokes, to appoint someone to lead these kids, someone who knows how to lead and engender and educate these kids with an approach and strategy that will enable them to get the best out of themselves, and enjoy their careers.
No more populist, expedient decisions devoid of due process. No more inaction. No more excuses and trusting the status quo. Make the change. Do it for the kids. You owe them that.
We did that previous and got Bolton. Coaching isn't the issue. Another coach would leave too with their reputation in tatters. We did get out "best" coach outside of Ratten, based on win/loss, in 20 years to emphasise that point. Which is really sad and what our club has become. Players culture is stuffed, they are unmotivated and generally don't give a toss. unless that changes then we are farrrked big time for years.
Was that as ugly on the TV as it was on the radio? That was hard to listen to. Just opened the door to our ladder position for the Hawks. I expected 8 to 10 goals at worst. Thank god it wasn’t 100 points. Media will be ridding Teague into the ground on this result.
First qtr was excellent, just poo after that.
Laj is Chris Scott the greatest coach of all time?
I find it hard to rationalise that fans that have been posting on here telling everyone who visits this site that we will get pumped this weekend, and then when it happens they act with indignance towards the club, it's players and coach.
Further most of them posted that assessment well before the outs were known, things only got worse for our prospects as the week progressed!
Actually, on hindsight that fan behaviour may fit. Is it possible the supporters exhibit the same weathervane approach that our board does? :o
Laj is Chris Scott the greatest coach of all time?
Huh?
I wouldnt care about this loss if we beat the suns and North.
Simple question?
Huh? What are you getting at with that question. Why are you asking that? Answer would be no.
Whoever comes here could go from the best to worst in 3 years.
What could Teague do then? Who should he put where? The midfield did not apply any pressure and our poor defense got absolutely smashed!
screw off to McGovern, sick of watching that half arsed effort. Unfortunately goodbye Willo, when I saw you run down for the umpeenth time, I told my family I’m about to drive to Adelaide to punch you in the face!
Newnes, nowhere. Casboult, nowhere. Murphy good time to retire, sorry it was a shocker to end it.
LOB I like you and I think you’ve got skills and I apologise profusely that this god forsaken crap club has not developed you better. Really I apologise.
Newman, you’re skating on Very thin ice with me.
Plow, if you fly for it, make sure you farking take it!
Saad, you beautiful man, you got screwed TWICE by the umpires and you are owed an apology by them!
Weiters, no matter how Jono Brown was trying to spin it, you killed Dixon!
Stocker and TDK, not sure what’s going on there but let’s reset for next year!
DT I’m sorry this Club decided that halfway thru a season was a great time to call a review - I suspect the ego of the incoming Prez is to blame. I’m sorry that you weren’t given good assistants or any support from the sidelines and you, like Ratts,
Are in my thoughts.
To the Club, thanks again for ruining my day. Weekend. But more Than that - any board members reading - as someone previously said, by your pathetic governance and support of those in charge, you are ruining the careers of many young men! Get your heads out of your collective moneyed arses and set your egos aside, and do right by the players ffs!
Still major issues with the list. We have been very patient with blokes like SPS Dow Kennedy Obrien Setterfield Fisher Williamson To come on but apart from Kennedy and some improvement from Dow all the others have failed to deliver again.
Add in the flops from latest round of big money recruits in Williams and always injured Martin and our trades across the board are fail after fail after fail.
Even Saad has dropped off in the second half of the year and has no defensive side to his game at all and opposition teams plan to exploit it.
Money bags McGovern who I was a fan of is another that just fails to even get close to what we thought we were buying. Paid big coin for a third banana forward.
Only positive out of today was seeing the natural ability of Honey. Should be a long term prospect as a small to medium forward.
Apart from that was awful viewing and those who want to make excuse after excuse after excuse why we again will finish in the bottom tier can do that if it helps them feel better about things but the reality is we are a fail or an organisation and need a massive clean out again with the list, coaching on all levels and admin departments.
Depressing that we waited 6 years and this is where we are at.
@MickeyO
Loved the bit about the board.
Good start with effort... but with heavy injuries, newbies in the team, returning players and the coach with the sword over his head it went to script just before half time and stayed that way. Port at home were going to be tough with a full team much less half a team like we had so while the result was worse than I thought, I think given the clubs overall position it wasnt unexpected.
Murphy's 300 was badly timed but he should be happy with his career and good luck with his future endeavors.
Not much good stuff today but lets get excited about three kids who played.
Durdin, Honey and Kemp, didnt get a lot of ball between them but showed glimpses and Honey in particular is a player I like watching with his cameos and he has brought some X factor to the team. Kemp looks solid and Durdin has some tricks and is a very team orientated little player who I want to see more of.
Gee, the tickets for the Teague Train were a sell out by supporters a few years ago and I don’t recall too many cries of ‘due process’ at the time. We all saw what he had to offer (opportunities not afforded to too many candidates) and we were all impressed with what we saw. It hasn’t worked out, I’m sure he’s tried his best, but it hasn’t worked. Also, over the past two years significant injuries have had a two fold effect: good players not on the park and those coming in being terribly under done because of no continuity of games in the lower level due to delays and cancellation of matches. One positive……Charlie has done something that many of us doubted, got onto the park again. He’s now got 3 important games under his belt which is something to celebrate.
Huh? What are you getting at with that question. Why are you asking that? Answer would be no.
Whoever comes here could go from the best to worst in 3 years.
But he has the greatest winning percentage of all time.
Still major issues with the list. We have been very patient with blokes like SPS Dow Kennedy Obrien Setterfield Fisher Williamson To come on but apart from Kennedy and some improvement from Dow all the others have failed to deliver again.
Add in the flops from latest round of big money recruits in Williams and always injured Martin and our trades across the board are fail after fail after fail.
Even Saad has dropped off in the second half of the year and has no defensive side to his game at all and opposition teams plan to exploit it.
Money bags McGovern who I was a fan of is another that just fails to even get close to what we thought we were buying. Paid big coin for a third banana forward.
Only positive out of today was seeing the natural ability of Honey. Should be a long term prospect as a small to medium forward.
Apart from that was awful viewing and those who want to make excuse after excuse after excuse why we again will finish in the bottom tier can do that if it helps them feel better about things but the reality is we are a fail or an organisation and need a massive clean out again with the list, coaching on all levels and admin departments.
Depressing that we waited 6 years and this is where we are at.
We could sort all that and it will do nothing. Have to clean out players that simply don't have the will to play for anything other than a pay cheque. Until that part is sorted then we go nowhere. Played half assed for most of 20 years. It will take alot to change it.
Despite that, we were still in contention to play finals until late in the year with alot of injuries. If these blokes had the slightest will to succeed we would be in there. Alot of those 20pt defeats would be wins. But sadly, they don't want it anywhere near badly enough.
positive charlie playing another game kemp/durdin and rest need to start pre season 1 month early
But he has the greatest winning percentage of all time.
He has a team with a great culture too. Even so, it is a great record. might not be the best but that record is indicative that you are a damn good coach.
We have nothing like that. Fact is Teague is our 2nd best coach in 20 years, win/loss basis. Thing is you can't coach bad culture. You're done before you start. If you think our issues are coaching then you've forgotten 20 years or you're a new supporter.
What do you think would happen to Chris Scott if he coached us instead? He'd have been sacked long ago with his reputation in tatters, never being accepted for a coaching job again. Even Clarko would suffer the same fate. Without the culture, care, will to succeed you're not going anywhere no matter how well you coach. Only the players themselves can sort that. That's where you want leaders demanding real accountability with real peer pressure.
Think that answers a simplistic question well.
Zac Butters needs a shirtfront next time he plays, cheap shot early on Newman with the swinging arm/fist tackle to the mid section should have had him in the book,but wasnt even a free. Seem him do it before too with cheap shots and that kid needs sorting out.
Zac Butters needs a shirtfront next time he plays, cheap shot early on Newman with the swinging arm/fist tackle to the mid section should have had him in the book,but wasnt even a free. Seem him do it before too with cheap shots and that kid needs sorting out.
Didn’t Butters get Saad in the last q as well?
Zac Butters needs a shirtfront next time he plays, cheap shot early on Newman with the swinging arm/fist tackle to the mid section should have had him in the book,but wasnt even a free. Seem him do it before too with cheap shots and that kid needs sorting out.
Agree can’t stand port. They have some real smug pr1cks that love the easy cheap goals against teams like us. Can’t wait to see how they handle the real heat of finals.
Anyone else notice Saad looking distressed and in tears on the bench after he had a goal scored against him for retaliating when that same pr1ck got our man high off the ball.
My guess is there must be more to it to have that sort of reaction.
So, after all that, looks like 8 wins for the year. I was expecting a ladder position of 9-12th at the start of the season.
A day or two ago, I was thinking that Teague was a good chance to keep his job. After today, I had that all too familiar sinking feeling all over again.
He has a team with a great culture too. Even so, it is a great record. might not be the best but that record is indicative that you are a damn good coach.
We have nothing like that. Fact is Teague is our 2nd best coach in 20 years, win/loss basis. Thing is you can't coach bad culture. You're done before you start. If you think our issues are coaching then you've forgotten 20 years or you're a new supporter.
What do you think would happen to Chris Scott if he coached us instead? He'd have been sacked long ago with his reputation in tatters, never being accepted for a coaching job again. Even Clarko would suffer the same fate. Without the culture, care, will to succeed you're not going anywhere no matter how well you coach. Only the players themselves can sort that. That's where you want leaders demanding real accountability with real peer pressure.
Think that answers a simplistic question well.
According to your facts Chris Scott is the greatest of all time.
Agree can’t stand port. They have some real smug pr1cks that love the easy cheap goals against teams like us. Can’t wait to see how they handle the real heat of finals.
Anyone else notice Saad looking distressed and in tears on the bench after he had a goal scored against him for retaliating when that same pr1ck got our man high off the ball.
My guess is there must be more to it to have that sort of reaction.
Yea something very NQR there with Saad! He got clocked then went to remonstrate which is not like him which makes me believe something was said (was he vilified!!?)) and then gets a 50 against him! And stupid crap commentator says oh he’s really taking this loss to heart! GTFO! something happened and I hope it comes out, as he was robbed today big time! Disgusting.
According to your facts Chris Scott is the greatest of all time.
Simple thinking in the extreme. Imagine trying to spin that simplistic 5hit.
Think I explained it well. I won't do it again. You just need to understand as I can't dumb it down any further for you.
I can only speak for myself, but if I hadn't watched the game and turned on to see that final score it would have probably been a case of... 'that's disappointing, but given the injuries it's probably what I expected.'
I think the greater disappointment many are feeling comes from the fact that for a quarter and a bit we more than matched them and then just capitulated completely...we had no joy at all once they started their run.
Yea something very NQR there with Saad! He got clocked then went to remonstrate which is not like him which makes me believe something was said (was he vilified!!?)) and then gets a 50 against him! And stupid crap commentator says oh he’s really taking this loss to heart! GTFO! something happened and I hope it comes out, as he was robbed today big time! Disgusting.
I thought he must have been thinking to himself "what have I done?"
I can only speak for myself, but if I hadn't watched the game and turned on to see that final score it would have probably been a case of... 'that's disappointing, but given the injuries it's probably what I expected.'
I think the greater disappointment many are feeling comes from the fact that for a quarter and a bit we more than matched them and then just capitulated completely...we had no joy at all once they started their run.
I dont know how they measure it but they showed our pressure rating for Q1 and it was through the roof. It then fell away badly.
Simple thinking in the extreme. Imagine trying to spin that simplistic 5hit.
Think I explained it well. I won't do it again. You just need to understand as I can't dumb it down any further for you.
You're ranking Carlton's greatest coach this century by winning percentage why have a different ranking system for the greatest AFL coach of all time?
Yea something very NQR there with Saad! He got clocked then went to remonstrate which is not like him which makes me believe something was said (was he vilified!!?)) and then gets a 50 against him! And stupid crap commentator says oh he’s really taking this loss to heart! GTFO! something happened and I hope it comes out, as he was robbed today big time! Disgusting.
Funny, I thought Stocker was also a little off today in terms of attitude and effort compared to previous weeks.
Understandable that it may just have been the weight of pressure the defence had to carry but Saad in particular seemed quite emotional.
Funny, I thought Stocker was also a little off today in terms of attitude and effort compared to previous weeks.
Understandable that it may just have been the weight of pressure the defence had to carry but Saad in particular seemed quite emotional.
Saad sat on the bench and looked in absolute despair to me Lods. Bent over with his face in his hands and inconsolable. Hope he will be alright.
Didn’t Butters get Saad in the last q as well?
Yep...as Shawny said got him high, Newman should have retaliated earlier and his teammates should have tackled Butters with extra intensity everytime he got the ball to teach that kid its coming back with interest if you want be a sniper.
Butters is a ***t and somebody will sort him out. Surely the football world has taken note of his antics by now?
What really concerns me EB is that our kids are OK, it's that middle tier of blokes who have just fizzled out. Fisher, Williamson, LoB, SPS have just given us nothing for what 4-5+ of "development" ? De Konig has stagnated, then chuck in senior blokes who are underdone and giving F all (moneybags, Chuck, Casboult). We're pushing sh1t up hill with what we put out on the park today.
Missed the first Q, switched on to see the boak free, the down the ground free and then Charlie get front on smashed, and thought “nope, know where this is going” and took up the offer from the little one to play barbies. I think i pulled the right reign
The boak free is the worst decision I have seen in a long time
Has anybody watched Teague's presser ?
Positives - Durdin, looks to be a player. We got another game into Stocker, TDK, Dow, Kemp, Honey and Charlie, who, BTW back would be killing him as Alir had two hands planted in it all night.
Umpiring was fair, until they realized that Port was behind, how Boak got the free kick for a dangerous tackle when it was his momentum that took him over and Fantasia took a massive dive when Stocker gave him a forearm after he kicked it, but Butters punches two players one after he kicks the ball to the head which send Saad off holding his jaw and nothing call is beyond me, but as I've always said it's very easy to give a free kick to the team that's supposed to win.
Today showed the lack of imagination Teague has as coach. McGovern has played back before, when we were under siege, he should have been swapped with Kemp to give Weiters and Plowman a chop out with a big senior body. TDK looked spent but no Casboult to take a bit of pressure off in the second half.
Murph could have gone down and clocked Butters for his gutless punch to Saad, but alas no.
This was always going to happen, as most, if not all of the assistants would have been told by now that they don't have their job next season, so their hearts not in it. I'm guessing that Teague would have been told by now, especially after challenging the club, ask Malthouse how that worked out for him. But if the unlikely does happen and Teague keeps his job, what sort of assistant coach would we get? As the industry knows that Teague is a dead man walking, so no coach would want to come and be cleaned out at the end of next year. BTW I feel sorry for Teague, he is just not cut out for a head coach roll, and by taking over after Bolton he lucked himself into the job.
Negatives - We've got one more game left, let's just hope that Covid shuts next week down and we can write this train wreck of a season off.
Sayers must get this club in order, MLG has done a good job off the field, but the next coach must be a hit within two seasons or their will be carnage.
Butters is a ***t and somebody will sort him out. Surely the football world has taken note of his antics by now?
What really concerns me EB is that our kids are OK, it's that middle tier of blokes who have just fizzled out. Fisher, Williamson, LoB, SPS have just given us nothing for what 4-5+ of "development" ? De Konig has stagnated, then chuck in senior blokes who are underdone and giving F all (moneybags, Chuck, Casboult). We're pushing sh1t up hill with what we put out on the park today.
Bit rough on TDK. He is 20 games in trying to jump over blokes that are 150 plus games. He doesn't have the physical strength to play that role yet and just gets worn down.
Should be the 2nd banana at this stage.
Bit rough on TDK. He is 20 games in trying to jump over blokes that 150 plus games. He doesn't have the physical strength to play that role yet and just gets worn down.
Should be the 2nd banana at this stage.
Agree on TDK.
He hasn't stagnated, he has just (basically) completed his first full season.
People get their expectations confused with reality.....both in terms of individuals and the team.
Also I think we are all forgetting because of his ego but hello SAYERS, the new messiah, has been there since Ratten days!!! He has been on the board this whole time.
I expect that a whole heap of sweet screw all will change, he has been part of the problem.
Why did I think we would get smashed today? Port have big bodies where it counts. We had no real tall forwards - Charlie is 3 games in after a couple of years out, Cas is still injured (it seemed) and never been a great player anyway. Losing Jones upsets the balance in the backline. Not having Cripps is a big body. TCK isn't big enough to take on Lycett. I had said to my wife that a good result will be 12 goals. Port aren't a team to have Honey, Durdin, Kemp make a debut at once.
The first quarter and a bit to get 22 up was pretty exciting, although we were still 2.6 at 1/4 time. We got the jump on Port. Keeping the way we were playing was going to be impossible. The commentators mentioned Wines/Boak, someone like that going into the middle, which helped them turn things around. Who did we have in our team that we could flick around to make a difference on the ball? We barely had enough to get four in the centre bounces.
What would the cohesion of that team be? We can play the same style with our best 22 on the ground, but the skill level is lower, so it can't work as well. We all know that we don't have great depth.
Missing Harry, Cripps, Pittonet (against the bigger bodies), Jones, SOS has to make a difference to the side - they give structure and or effort.
In the last quarter, TDK (knackered) half jumped early, the tap that Port got straight to their mid was hilarious it was so easy (not a dig at TDK, just a description). TDK is cooked for the year.
The commentators mentioned a few outs in the first quarter when we were going well, but forgot about them later and made no excuses (which is the way it should be for them). Tiges are going great at the moment with their injuries. WB couldn't handle a forward out.
Who was available that wasn't injured? Fogarty, Cottrell, Carroll, Parks, Ramsay. None of whom would have made much difference, or come in ahead of Cas, McGovern - needed some size (that we didn't have against North). We wouldn't have beaten any team today.
Much has been made of closing the losing margin under Teague, with a generally more attacking game plan. Every coach has had big losses, where they just can't stop the opposition.
How many games does the core of a team need to play together to become a good team? Ours wouldn't have many.
The board is sitting on a report - great that there weren't any spills and take the shine from Murph - I hope that they look at the report, take their time to digest it, then act appropriately.
I really feel for Teague. Whatever the decision of the board is it is. For me, how they explain and execute their decision is key.
What toll does it have on players - the coach is surely part of the decision to commit and sign. Why wouldn't players just play for $$ if there is no commitment by the club.
At this stage you'd have to say TDK is a perfect 2nd ruck who can also be a dangerous tall forward. Probably a bit too early to take the reigns as 1st ruck. Still a bit light and lacking a bit of endurance. Seriously fought hard today though. That Lycett is a pr1ck.
Can't help but wonder what our best team, all fit would play like. It's the stuff of imagination... sadly.
B Nic Newman Jacob Weitering Caleb Marchbank
Zac Williams Liam Jones Adam Saad
M Sam Docherty Patrick Cripps Zac Fisher
F Jack Silvagni Charlie Curnow Jack Martin
Eddie Betts Harry McKay Tom De Koning
R Marc Pittonet Matthew Kennedy Sam Walsh
I Mitch McGovern Paddy Dow Liam Stocker
Josh Honey
We just have to find a fitness guru capable of keeping half of them on the park.
Emergencies: Ed Curnow David Cuningham Will Setterfield
Lochie O'Brien Levi Casboult Jack Newnes
Michael Gibbons Lachie Fogarty Tom Williamson
Brodie Kemp Sam Petrevski-Seton Matt Owies
While I never expected a win the effort today surely proves that the players have well and truly given up on the coach and expect him gone at seasons end. To tell you the truth it's not surprising. I can understand we're undermanned and we can't sustain the intensity they we showed for 1.5 quarters but by the same token he shows bugger all in coaching nous or creativity. Once again when the tide started to turn we were getting smashed at the centre clearances but lo and behold Murphy is in there? Seriously, why? FFS give Stoker, Durdin, Honey or even Kemp 5 minutes and see how that goes. No friggin idea. Why was Levi being played forward? No match fitness, can't kick a goal to save himself but could at least give our backs a chop out. McGovern is pretty much in the same boat as Levi. What the hell, there is so much wrong with this team you could spend hours dissecting it. I really am disillusioned with the CFC at the moment. Can't see a change in the coach, regardless of the replacement, making much of a difference. We have a board that is completely out of touch of the basic fundamentals of what WE the Carlton tragic's are are about. Hell most of them weren't even born when we were going to games as kids during the great days. It is just so depressing.
Thanks Murph. All the best. Appreciate all the years you were our only shining light when we were a lost worse than this (Hard to believe after today).
All the best David. Remember you winning a B&F when we were seriously CR@P and you were fearless and deserved it. Unfortunately you are coaching in an era of soft c@Cks. Individuals that don't have an understanding or appreciation of the club.
3 weeks ago I suggested that we were finishing off the year like 2020. 1 win in the last 5 and it looks like history is repeating itself. Heaven help us next week. I'm serious. If we can take a forfeit l'd have it.
Butters is a ***t and somebody will sort him out. Surely the football world has taken note of his antics by now?
What really concerns me EB is that our kids are OK, it's that middle tier of blokes who have just fizzled out. Fisher, Williamson, LoB, SPS have just given us nothing for what 4-5+ of "development" ? De Konig has stagnated, then chuck in senior blokes who are underdone and giving F all (moneybags, Chuck, Casboult). We're pushing sh1t up hill with what we put out on the park today.
Reckon there will be a few list changes Prof as well as the coach. We have a tight cap and will want to be active in trade week so I can see a few of those mid tier/fringe types cut.
TDK looks tired, still a thin kid and by half time he runs out of gas given he has no decent support. Port have improved, we needed our best team on the park to compete and it was hard to watch after half time. We are stuck with some of those overpaid, underperformers with long term deals so it's up to the coach new or old to get them earning their keep.
At this stage you'd have to say TDK is a perfect 2nd ruck who can also be a dangerous tall forward. Probably a bit too early to take the reigns as 1st ruck. Still a bit light and lacking a bit of endurance. Seriously fought hard today though. That Lycett is a pr1ck.
To be a dangerous tall fwd (albeit part time), he will have to work on his kicking. He also needs to work on this tank as he is getting outworked after the bounce or ball up. He is only a kid still andl needs time, as suggested ideally he would still be a no 2 but given our plight, he has been thrown to the wolves so to speak.
Has anybody watched Teague's presser ?
Yes. Seemed relatively upbeat despite the thrashing, looked more broken last week. When asked if the margin would hinder his chances of retaining his job, he said it didn't help. Praised the 1st qtr effort but then dropped away.
To be a dangerous tall fwd (albeit part time), he will have to work on his kicking. He also needs to work on this tank as he is getting outworked after the bounce or ball up. He is only a kid still andl needs time, as suggested ideally he would still be a no 2 but given our plight, he has been thrown to the wolves so to speak.
We've been throwing players to the wolves since 2005.
Yes. Seemed relatively upbeat despite the thrashing, looked more broken last week. When asked if the margin would hinder his chances of retaining his job, he said it didn't help. Praised the 1st qtr effort but then dropped away.
Yes, that's pretty much my takeaway. I expected him to be shattered. I wonder if the club has told him one way or the other, and his mood was influenced by having some clarity and closure ?
Coaching aside, as many have said, there were some handy players missing yesterday and sometimes its not until you see it on a board that you realise. To his credit, Teague has never used injuries as an excuse or a reason for poor performances, he always uses the poor execution or being in games long enough thing. Million dollar question for those deciding his fate is what difference could those below have made?
Coaching aside, as many have said, there were some handy players missing yesterday and sometimes its not until you see it on a board that you realise. To his credit, Teague has never used injuries as an excuse or a reason for poor performances, he always uses the poor execution or being in games long enough thing. Million dollar question for those deciding his fate is what difference could those below have made?
Great post.
Had a beer with one of our Legends (Mr Southby 20). Defy any coach in the AFL to field a competitive team with the amount of injuries we have.
To be a good team you need a consistent group of senior players being on the park together., I doubt if TT has had this once this year.
We can get of this mess if we fix the following:
a. Player development - We have been banging on all year how players that come to us go backwards.
b. High Perfomance/Mediical - enough said already. How can players re-injure hamstrings trying to prove their fitness. Needs to be looked at ASAP.
Recruiting - No more skinny kids who can play Under 17.. No more injury prone million dollar duds. Rather have good average foot soldiers.
We have the list just need the stars to line up
Coaching aside, as many have said, there were some handy players missing yesterday and sometimes its not until you see it on a board that you realise. To his credit, Teague has never used injuries as an excuse or a reason for poor performances, he always uses the poor execution or being in games long enough thing. Million dollar question for those deciding his fate is what difference could those below have made?
I posted a team of injuries yesterday. You are missing a few from your list. Mirkov for one. There is another 1 (or 2) as well.
Add to that the players that are playing injured simply because we don't have anyone else, eg Casboult, and you can fill a team.
How people continually ignore this fact is beyond me.
I don't care if you are Ron Barrassi, Leigh Matthews and Al Clarkson combined....if you haven't got players, you don't get wins.
I have stopped watching, I am officially under the doona. The result is disappointing but not a surprise. We are ravaged by injury, we played two debutantes and had one guy into his fifth game, we had another on his last legs playing his last game and we were playing a top side interstate. It has been a long and disappointing year, the players are clearly emotionally drained. Eddie is battling racism, Docherty is battling cancer, Murphy played his 300th and retired, and the Board has decided to systematically undermine the Coach and the team to advance their own personal political agendas. They are a disgrace. They stand for nothing, they are hypocritical and they are letting down the Club. They should resign.
What could Teague do then? Who should he put where? The midfield did not apply any pressure and our poor defense got absolutely smashed!
screw off to McGovern, sick of watching that half arsed effort. Unfortunately goodbye Willo, when I saw you run down for the umpeenth time, I told my family I’m about to drive to Adelaide to punch you in the face!
Newnes, nowhere. Casboult, nowhere. Murphy good time to retire, sorry it was a shocker to end it.
LOB I like you and I think you’ve got skills and I apologise profusely that this god forsaken crap club has not developed you better. Really I apologise.
Newman, you’re skating on Very thin ice with me.
Plow, if you fly for it, make sure you farking take it!
Saad, you beautiful man, you got screwed TWICE by the umpires and you are owed an apology by them!
Weiters, no matter how Jono Brown was trying to spin it, you killed Dixon!
Stocker and TDK, not sure what’s going on there but let’s reset for next year!
DT I’m sorry this Club decided that halfway thru a season was a great time to call a review - I suspect the ego of the incoming Prez is to blame. I’m sorry that you weren’t given good assistants or any support from the sidelines and you, like Ratts,
Are in my thoughts.
To the Club, thanks again for ruining my day. Weekend. But more Than that - any board members reading - as someone previously said, by your pathetic governance and support of those in charge, you are ruining the careers of many young men! Get your heads out of your collective moneyed arses and set your egos aside, and do right by the players ffs!
Micky0, eloquently put.
Was McGovern on the ground?
I know Willo has only got one side to his game but sheesh, I agree how many times can this bloke keep getting caught
I will provide a quote on how i am and the rest of the Carlton members are feeling.
"Oh the pain"
I have stopped watching, I am officially under the doona. The result is disappointing but not a surprise. We are ravaged by injury, we played two debutantes and had one guy into his fifth game, we had another on his last legs playing his last game and we were playing a top side interstate. It has been a long and disappointing year, the players are clearly emotionally drained. Eddie is battling racism, Docherty is battling cancer, Murphy played his 300th and retired, and the Board has decided to systematically undermine the Coach and the team to advance their own personal political agendas. They are a disgrace. They stand for nothing, they are hypocritical and they are letting down the Club. They should resign.
I pretty much agree with that, with a small proviso that I at least hope the Board, despite all manner of stuff ups, factions etc., does genuinely love the club and is acting in its best interests, and not just treating it as their personal play thing. If it's the latter, and in addition to being incompetent they are also malevolent, then I suggest Teague takes the boys down to Katandra. We can play in the Murray Bush League or whatever they call it these days, where at least our rank amateurism won't look so out of place.
Butters gets sighted twice for hits on Newman then Saad. He gets a discount on both for being a first offence!!! He hit two different blokes in the same game. The MRO is a f#,$ joke.
Butters gets sighted twice for hits on Newman then Saad. He gets a discount on both for being a first offence!!! He hit two different blokes in the same game. The MRO is a f#,$ joke.
Bit harsh on the MRO. That assessment requires numeracy skills 😉