Now Voss and the boys have to make the most of it and really capitalise.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-fixture-2022-winners-and-losers-from-afl-draw-doubleup-games-who-every-club-plays-twice-analysis/news-story/44ed68f66ad26b7b627e8517de387cc5
R1 - vs Tigers on Thurs (Season opener is GF rematch on WED)
R2 - vs Dogs on Thurs
R3 - vs Hawks (MCG) - 10 day break for a home game?
R4 - @GC - 7 day break, why not swap these to give extra break when travelling?
R5 - Port @MCG (7 day break)
R6 - @Freo - 6 day break and travel the longest road trip. Why?!
R7 - home vs North - 7 days
R8 - home vs Ade - 8 day break!
R9 - @GWS - 7 day break and travel, after a longer home break, again.
From here onwards we haven't got times/days yet and there will be a bye in there somewhere but we don't know where yet.
R10 - Sydney home
R11-13 - Rivalry month? - Pies, Bombers, Tigers all away @ MCG
R14 - Freo marvel
R15 - Saints marvel
R16 - @Eagles.....back to perth....for the second time.
R17 - Cats home at the MCG
R18 - Giants @ Marvel
R19 - @Ade
R20 - @Bris.....in QLD....again....for the second time.
R21 - vs Dees
R22 - Home vs Pies last round.
Travel
WA - twice
QLD - twice
SA - Once
Syd - Once
No Tassie, or Darwin.
5x Home @ MCG vs big teams (Pies, Tigers, Cats, Hawks and Port)
6x Home @ Marvel vs interstate/smaller (Freo, Syd, GWS, Ade, Saints, North)
From the first 9 games we have...
2x Thurs night and a standalone sat night
Supposedly the best draw, reckon we could do a lot better with our travel and breaks around travel, but so be it.
Thought our deal was 6 at the MCG and 5 at Marvel?
Our first 6 are pretty tough yet again - Hawks a maybe, also Suns, but don't fancy us in the other 4. Hate to say it, but a 0-6 start is not out of the question.
We'll grab at least two of those first six IMO
Thought our deal was 6 at the MCG and 5 at Marvel?
Think its always been Docklands is our home, and MCG is secondary.......ever since Collins sold our soul.
Used to be 7-4 (maybe even 8-3 early on)
No real easy games you can pencil in i reckon... If we're going to be a good team we have to beat good sides. When everything clicks, which one day i hope it does, we'll be the team other sides dread playing. Until then we just have to wait and see.
'The Spartans do not ask how many enemy there are, but where they are.'
King Agis II of Sparta
Think its always been Docklands is our home, and MCG is secondary.......ever since Collins sold our soul.
Used to be 7-4 (maybe even 8-3 early on)
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-on-the-move-to-the-mcg-for-more-home-games-under-new-deal-20140917-10i706.html
Found this. We changed it to 6 MCG 5 Marvel back in 2014 but it was a 5 year deal.
Every pre-season it's the same media spin, the draw gives Carlton an armchair ride while Cheats and Filth are hammered.
No matter what the draw is, the story is spun the same way, pre-season after pre-season after pre-season!
Then when we've lost 3 or 4 of the first few rounds against potential finalists it is going to be spun as "Carlton fails to deliver", fails to deliver to a synthetic expectation created by the media.
The truth is, until we have long term stability of coach and playing list, things won't improve, they can't improve, we won't become consistent, because we are eternally starting with a fresh perspective that everyone must learn! What shocks me is that some people around our club and the competition think we can trade our way out like the old days, our platinum era, it's 1980s thinking and it's developed a nice patina but like a vintage Jag any budget two bob Tesla will leave it covered in dust!
Just quietly we have been stripped of the season opener.
Just quietly we have been stripped of the season opener.
It also wasn't lost on me that after our club initially floating the Good Friday game to raise funds for the RCH, between the clubs that flank the RCH Carlton and Norp, not only were we dealt out but we've been locked out of that opportunity!
Just quietly we have been stripped of the season opener.
Pleased we were ... it was way past boring
No MCG games on Friday night or Saturday arvo/night..... that sucks. Best time to catch up with mates at the footy
Just quietly we have been stripped of the season opener.
Don't sweat it MBB. Fate is in our hands. Start winning, pulling bigger audience figures and you watch how quickly scheduling can change.
No MCG games on Friday night or Saturday arvo/night..... that sucks. Best time to catch up with mates at the footy
As I suggested humbly to MBB, Cranium, fate is in our hands, start winning and you watch how swiftly scheduling changes.
Just quietly we have been stripped of the season opener.
Kinda.
We still get the same slot, its just someone gets stuffed in front of us.
Personally i think it works in our favour.
Everyone will be talking about the GF rematch results, rather than how disappointing carlton was in R1.
Probable more about how Richmond fell off the pace last year than about us too.
Despite what most blues fans think, we've become quite Fitzroy like, and most opposition fans don't rate us.
A number of teams have been locked in annual fixtures for years and never punished for poor performance.
Well there you go. We all see things differently. I dont think I've been more optimistic about a season for a decade. No more of this rebuilding/ development- maybe in a year or two rubbish. Dont worry about Voss needing time to settle in. The time has come.
Well there you go. We all see things differently. I dont think I've been more optimistic about a season for a decade. No more of this rebuilding/ development- maybe in a year or two rubbish. Dont worry about Voss needing time to settle in. The time has come.
Settle down Lod's, this is Carlton you're talking about. After many let downs I refuse to read the propaganda that emerges from our marketing department during the off season now. Not that I'm saying you have but you sound like it.
A number of teams have been locked in annual fixtures for years and never punished for poor performance.
Yes, it's unusual for annual fixture teams to change regardless of ladder position and form.
Is the GF rematch opener a one-off for the eight day "Footy Festival"? We may get the season opener back next year ... when it's a Richmond home game.
A number of teams have been locked in annual fixtures for years and never punished for poor performance.
We still have R1 Thursday night at the G.
Who is getting punished?
We still have R1 Thursday night at the G.
Who is getting punished?
We're not opening the season like we have for a decade or so.
We're not opening the season like we have for a decade or so.
There actually a sydney derby that was a week before us in a split round 1 a few years ago.
So as i said, we have the same spot we always have. Just another match pushed in front of us....and its not the first time.
I'd rather keep thursday night than get pushed to Tuesday night just to be the 'first'.
Settle down Lod's, this is Carlton you're talking about. After many let downs I refuse to read the propaganda that emerges from our marketing department during the off season now. Not that I'm saying you have but you sound like it.
Nope
I don't take a lot of notice of what the club says on most things.
It's all spin.
In fact I don't have a lot of time for the 'club' and it's shenanigans.
I follow the Carlton football 'team'.
The club is just an entity that makes the fielding of the team possible.
I pay a membership (or three) to help make that happen.
My optimism is based on the fact that we should have performed better last year and following from that ...
- the theory that we're 'due' for a much better run of injuries than we had last year.
-that the players will be a year older and some coming into their prime. We don't have a lot of older players on our list anymore.
-that some of the players introduced in the last few years will be more settled and have a better understanding with their team-mates.
- that divisions that had emerged under Teague will have changed. (Whether they've been resolved remains to be seen).
- that the injection of new players all look to have enhanced the list.
That's not to say there won't be a few issues.
How will the players respond to Voss's coaching?
Will the defence be disrupted with the loss of Jones or will that structure change and his loss have a minimal effect?
All in all the positives would seem to me to outweigh the possible negatives.
My optimism is based on the fact that we should have performed better last year and following from that ...
Yes, it's interesting, for that logic to work you have to assume the former coach was the primary/bulk of the problem, I'm not confident at all that was the case.
One thing is clear about this coming season, and that is that some players have nowhere to hide, they have played their hand. Now it's walk the walk, or ....................................!
Yes, it's interesting, for that logic to work you have to assume the former coach was the primary/bulk of the problem, I'm not confident at all that was the case.
One thing is clear about this coming season, and that is that some players have nowhere to hide, they have played their hand. Now it's walk the walk, or ....................................!
I don't see that in what I suggested (the bit in bold)
I think the biggest obstacle was getting a settled side on the field playing regularly together
But while Teague may not have been the 'bulk' of the problem, issues in the player/coach and player/player dynamic certainly played a part, as identified in the review.
You're right though.... the time for excuses is over, and that alone should be a spur for all to lift their game, which again should result in improved efforts.
My optimism comes as much from what is happening at other clubs.....
Melb - will be hard to beat, but had a charmed run with injuries and can be fragile
WB - strangely enough, I think we are always a good chance against them, and Bruce is a big loss
PA - as long as we don't play them in Adelaide...
Geelong - the sun is well and truly setting
Brisbane - could be a big year, but will really miss Hipwood
Sydney - see comment on Bulldogs, and we play them on our deck this year
Essendon - unlike most of the pundits, I can see a big flop from them this year - played out of their skin in 2021, won't do it again
WCE - following Geelong down the sunset path
St Kilda - who knows what they will produce - I'd like to think we have them covered
Freo - they are almost our bunny!
Rich - another big unknown, but their star is definitely fading and have lost some important spare parts players
Haw - in a rebuild, may get some Mitchell-bounce (but we should get some Voss-bounce)
Ade - I think they will struggle this year
GCS - Who knows....? Why do we always get them in Qld in the first 4 rounds when they are a sniff?
Coll - Rebuild - little threat
NM - Rebuild (although I thought that when we played them last year!)
I have a sneaky feeling that NM may produce a surprise or two and we will need to be really on our game against them.
I have a sneaky feeling that NM may produce a surprise or two and we will need to be really on our game against them.
It will depend on whether that McKay kid is Harry or Ben when we play them....he can't be both. ;D
I have a sneaky feeling that NM may produce a surprise or two and we will need to be really on our game against them.
They are coming from such a low base, that anything they do will surprise.
I have a sneaky feeling that NM may produce a surprise or two and we will need to be really on our game against them.
Agree...we got flogged last time, they have lost Tarrant but picked up some players to improve their forward line and midfield.
We are no certs vs anyone as you always have to take into account that other teams are also improving each year and you have to be improving at a greater rate to be successful.
We are still a soft team and thats why we lose to these teams who have less talent and it remains to be seen if Voss can weed out the marshmallows and toughen up the rest. Jones will be a bigger loss than most think and Weitering must be wondering how its going to work down back with the likes of Young and McDonald.
They are coming from such a low base, that anything they do will surprise.
Maybe for some.