I find myself at home tonight and checked the TV guide showing the Legnds Football League is on at 10.30 tonight on 73. This is Australia's version of the Lingerie Football League from the US. Don't underestimate the talent required to play this game. Might be worth a look. http://www.lflus.com/
Farking nanny state how its called this. Its Sheila's prancing around in their undies. Lingerie football league. Farking get around it!!!!
To be fair I think I'll have to watch a few hours... or maybe weeks... perhaps months, before I can make an informed decision as to whether I like watching women run around in their underwear. And the entire time I will be cursing how politically incorrect and sexist this sport is.
To be fair I think I'll have to watch a few hours... or maybe weeks... perhaps months, before I can make an informed decision as to whether I like watching women run around in their underwear.
A bit confused are we, Baggers? ;D ;D
I have a friend who's playing for Victoria but I think it's an absolute joke. People are trying to validate it by saying it's a legitimate chance for women to gain recognition in sport. The fact that the first article I read following last nights match didn't advise the scores, who played well or anything to do with the match itself proves that it's just another way that women in sport can be mocked, sexualised and exploited. Oh but the article did say that a group of bikies went to watch. Journalism at its finest.
I have a friend who's playing for Victoria but I think it's an absolute joke. People are trying to validate it by saying it's a legitimate chance for women to gain recognition in sport. The fact that the first article I read following last nights match didn't advise the scores, who played well or anything to do with the match itself proves that it's just another way that women in sport can be mocked, sexualised and exploited. Oh but the article did say that a group of bikies went to watch. Journalism at its finest.
I wouldn't mock or seek to exploit women... men and women are both sexualised in the media and sport (and movies etc) - seems to be hardwired into our genetics... and it's something I have no problem with as long as we know that that is exactly what is going on and the participants agree and accept it. If we removed the 'sexual' from all our entertainment things might become very dull! Though I do understand your point that sexualising can become exploitative. Fine line.
The game did resemble a game of gridiron of sorts. There were some very highly skilled, strong women playing. The running backs absolutely dominated the play but there was quite a gap in skills from the lesser players. Both defensive lines were pretty weak. The uniforms are pretty skimpy, but they are much better than what our female basketballers wear these days.
I have a friend who's playing for Victoria but I think it's an absolute joke. People are trying to validate it by saying it's a legitimate chance for women to gain recognition in sport. The fact that the first article I read following last nights match didn't advise the scores, who played well or anything to do with the match itself proves that it's just another way that women in sport can be mocked, sexualised and exploited. Oh but the article did say that a group of bikies went to watch. Journalism at its finest.
I wouldn't mock or seek to exploit women... men and women are both sexualised in the media and sport (and movies etc) - seems to be hardwired into our genetics... and it's something I have no problem with as long as we know that that is exactly what is going on and the participants agree and accept it. If we removed the 'sexual' from all our entertainment things might become very dull! Though I do understand your point that sexualising can become exploitative. Fine line.
Men are not sexualised nearly as much as women. When an AFL game is played, how many references are made to the players uniforms and physique? As I said, first post game article I read about this joke of a sport didn't once mention the score or the players who played well etc, it was all about what they were wearing and who was in the crowd.
Same goes for the annual top women in sports lists. Could you ever imagine a horse topping the mens list? But it's perfectle acceptable for a horse to be 'the top female athlete' for a year. Women are largely seen as a joke in sport. How many guys went and watched Anna Kournikova play at the Aus Open? I bet no one was watching for the quality of the tennis. I can't think of any male sportsmen who get that same level of attention based on their looks.
Like Jofo just said, there were some highly skilled women playing LFL, but has any of that been reported?
It really irks me this sort of thing. As a woman who's played sport from the age of 8, it's so frustrating to know that unless I was good at a small number of sports where women are recognised for their talent (swimming, athletics or netball), then it doesn't matter how good I am, it would never be as notable as anything a man can do.
Don't like it or don't agree with it, don't watch it. Just don't lead some moral crusade of the minority and fark it up for the majority, like everything in this over sensitive nanny state.
In reality, the women that hate it are normally the ones not getting any attention. Just an observation.
And I'm sure the ones competing love the attention otherwise they wouldn't be doing it.
I'm going to watch it because I like seeing sheilas with barely anything on. No hiding that here.
And I'm sure the ones competing love the attention otherwise they wouldn't be doing it.
I'm going to watch it because I like seeing sheilas with barely anything on. No hiding that here.
I can't be bothered watching it but I too like seeing scantily clad women!!
And I'm sure the ones competing love the attention otherwise they wouldn't be doing it.
I'm going to watch it because I like seeing sheilas with barely anything on. No hiding that here.
I can't be bothered watching it but I too like seeing scantily clad women!!
I figure that also if I'm going to continue to struggle from footy withdrawal, I might as well remedy it with sheilas playing gridiron in lingerie. ;D
Never said I had a problem with scantily clad women, and I certainly have no issue attracting attention myself. But don't masquerade this BS as 'sport'.
Would rather go to the strippers where at least they earn decent money for being perved on.
I'll see your strippers and raise you super happy fun ending massage parlour. ;D
I think it is a bit extreme to compare these girls to strippers though.
Personally, I think women have missed the point. Here is one clear aspect of sport or TV broadcasts that the best male sportsmen in the world cannot hope to compete with. If it is managed well, and doesn't stoop to the low points then I think it is a great opportunity.
The reaction reminds me of Roller Ball in the original days, when that first aired it was all about bikini clad girls not doing very much at all, fluff. Eventually it morphed into a vicious professional sport with heroines and villains like any competitive team sport. Actually it did better in that violent form than the fluffy version, until the goody-two-shoes got their way and banned it due to the violence, apparently good girls don't get blood noses! Of all the things you could have banned it for violence seemed the least likely! Yet for me the irony is the physical aspect of the contest is exactly what they would use to validate it as a real sport!
I find it ironic that one of the loudest critics of the womens football is strongly associated with beach volleyball! The outfits these girls wear are no more or less than that of a beach volleyball player, just with a few added decorations and padding. Actually they probably expose less than beach volleyball player! Womens sport is not without some hypocrisy it seems!
What about the womens hockey? They run around scantily clad with outfits that barely cover their butt, yet nobody complains about it being sexist. As it turns out the hockey outfits were designed by a woman with the assistance of the players!
What about Netballers in those skimpy shorts? I was explaining to my near 3 year old son the other day that the real aim in life when he gets older is to get into those shorts as much as possible! lol
If you were cynical it would make you wonder if some of this criticism is just some of those other sports defending their hard won turf!
Look at the triathlon, both sexes are near nude!
What about the Life saving carnivals, wedgies a plenty for the boat crews nobody wants the broadcast banned!
Hey, I don't give a feck, paint the jumpers on the AFL players if they can find a way to do it without adverse health effects!
I rather a year of TV full of shallow opportunistic pseudo-sports than a week of "Big Turkey Slap" or "Next Super Uber Celebrity Dancing with Fools"!
Never said I had a problem with scantily clad women, and I certainly have no issue attracting attention myself. But don't masquerade this BS as 'sport'.
Would rather go to the strippers where at least they earn decent money for being perved on.
'Masquerading' is a big part of the world we live in. In fact it is a major industry... in all its subtleties. We have many politicians masquerading as leaders, for example!
Sexuality is an intrinsic part of our nature and trying to remove it from sport just won't work... particularly for women - sorry but you're just fabulous to look at, whether playing sport, acting, walking down the street, singing or delivering an inspiring humanitarian speech! And you feel really good too!
Never said I had a problem with scantily clad women, and I certainly have no issue attracting attention myself. But don't masquerade this BS as 'sport'.
Would rather go to the strippers where at least they earn decent money for being perved on.
Hmmm, so at what stage do the Lingerie Footballers drop their lingerie and spread their legs? Must have missed that bit spewing hard!! :))
I understand the feminist perspective, but these girls are not playing to tear-away clothing. Although I concede the organizers might be trying to promote that perspective in much of the advertising.
I feel extreme reactions do no justice to the cause and only serve to promote the very thing they oppose!
Why not just leave the sport as it stands and lobby for a slight dress code change, but if they do that you must apply the same rules to every other sport so as not to be seen to discriminate!
It's a fad....
It won't last more than a year or two.
A few folk will make a bit of money, but it will eventually go the way of the Bluebirds and the Swanettes.
There's a chance it might morph into a serious competition, with a change in attire...because I reckon it would be a good sport for the ladies to play and enjoy.
Oh old fashion lodsie! ;D
I understand the feminist perspective, but these girls are not playing to tear-away clothing. Although I concede the organizers might be trying to promote that perspective in much of the advertising.
I feel extreme reactions do no justice to the cause and only serve to promote the very thing they oppose!
Why not just leave the sport as it stands and lobby for a slight dress code change, but if they do that you must apply the same rules to every other sport so as not to be seen to discriminate!
The difference between this sport and the others that have been mentioned that incorporate very little clothing is that the others for the most part have a practical reason for the uniform. I mean beach volleyball for instance (although I probably wouldn't be comfortable wearing that) you can understand why they wouldn't want to wear a whole hell of a lot more. No one wants sand in any more places than it already gets. Likewise triathlon, the less you wear, the easier and better your performance.
With football/gridiron though, there's no logical reason to be wearing a bikini. Most of you guys have played footy I would imagine, I don't know about you but I used to get some amazing bruises on my arms from being tackled, usually by people with grippo on their hands. Now you take off half of the clothes you're wearing and damn that would hurt a lot more.
As for my stripper comparison, I wasn't comparing them to strippers, more the voyeristic intention of the audience.
On the flip side, one thing I'm really happy to see is youth girl AFL alignments with TAC cup teams. Now that's a step in a great direction, where we can develop women to play a high standard of football and it actually be about the football.
Oh old fashion lodsie! ;D
Nah.
Just Old ;)
With football/gridiron though, there's no logical reason to be wearing a bikini.
Their logical reasoning is money. Most (if not all) blokes would turn on the TV or attend the game and watch it like little humping dogs, which rakes in the mullah!
I personally would not play in that attire, but if those girls want to do so, good luck to them!
I'd play in a mankini.
You are a sad, strange, little man. You have my pity.
It's a fad....
It won't last more than a year or two.
A few folk will make a bit of money, but it will eventually go the way of the Bluebirds and the Swanettes.
Spot on. In the US it's big but then again so are guns!
On the flip side, one thing I'm really happy to see is youth girl AFL alignments with TAC cup teams. Now that's a step in a great direction, where we can develop women to play a high standard of football and it actually be about the football.
So no bikinis for women AFL footballers in the future? :P
Seriously, you are right but such is life. Worry about the things you can control. Women will always be happy to show off their bodies for a little coin and guys will always be happy to fork out some deniro. It's human nature. Testosterone dictates what men think and do. Women will never understand because they don't have enough of the stuff in them to realise what it does.
I suspect a lot of sports would not attract nearly as many people if not for the girls at the venue, have a look at grid girls for example.
A lot of male spectators at car racing were probably borderline track fans until a grid girl tickled them under the chin with a brochure for headers, after which the guy was hooked for life!
Some of my "older" female friends are pretty open about things. They tell me all men without exception are so easily manipulated by females that it is almost as if nature has deliberately made things unfair!
Where men see a girl giggling and looking great just for the fun of it, women see a girl working the room with a bunch of deliberately intentions!
Mars and Venus it will always be!
You are a sad, strange, little man. You have my pity.
The GozzMan's irreverent humour is an acquired taste. ;)
Fwiw, one of Englands most talented footballers never played for his country (soccer) because he wasnt marketable enough. Matt Le Tissier.
On the flipside i wonder if Beckhams career would have been what it was if he was ugly. He was fairly one dimensional as a player and made a career out of being a dead ball specialist.
Fwiw, one of Englands most talented footballers never played for his country (soccer) because he wasnt marketable enough. Matt Le Tissier.
Le Tissier was a freak of nature. He was the Ablett Snr of soccer.
^^
Exactly my point. If he was good looking, he would have been regarded as Gary Lineker reincarnate, instead he played for Southampton his entire career because he was frankly, ugly, and a bit gangly.
There is one example of the exact same thing that Navy Maven is complaining about.
Yeah but you know what? Rooney is no looker either and look how he's gone.
Went and checked out a live game of this a few weeks back with some mates...we were bored pretty quickly. Spent the arvo drinking at the pub before heading over to AAMI Park, we'd had enough by half time so we went back to the pub.
It's novel for about 5 minutes. Made for TV, that's for sure.