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Title: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: Gozza on January 16, 2014, 06:22:27 pm
 :(
 
Has chosen not to pay his 100,000 dollars fine for revealing details about Jill Meagher's killer on his blog and so he will spend the next 50 days in the slammer. 
 
Opinions.
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: Baggers on January 16, 2014, 06:54:22 pm
I thought the judge rules that he couldn't do jail time and had to pay the fine... ???
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: Mantis on January 16, 2014, 08:48:46 pm
I thought the judge rules that he couldn't do jail time and had to pay the fine... ???

Today was the deadline of the fine being paid from what I know, so not paying means jail time as far as I can see.
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: Baggers on January 16, 2014, 09:00:41 pm
Jailtime suits his agenda. Paying the fine doesn't.

I respect (and agree with) what he is doing (in terms of exposing vermin) but I so wish it wasn't always enmeshed with his grandiose ego and self-righteous martyrdom.

Sometimes you cannot help but wonder which is bigger... the issue, or Derryn.
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: Gozza on January 16, 2014, 09:20:51 pm
I have no problem with what Hinch did. Our legal system in this country is farked to the point where the pieces of sh1t are protected and the victims and the innocent can go to buggery...hence why the arse hat who murdered Jill was able to do what he did when he should have been removed from society the first time around or a long time ago given the animal's long history of sexual and violent offences. He's got his whack now and the rest of his life behind bars will be no fun....but it took 20 years and a very high profile case. The worst part about it all is there are many more like him roaming the streets. And the irony in all of it is, we live in a nanny state yet the penalties and consequences for such crimes and many other scum acts like it are as weak as piss.
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: cookie2 on January 16, 2014, 09:33:43 pm
The law is the law - if we don't like it then we should demand change - all for that.

Hinch has taken it upon himself to make the determination himself though as to whether the law is to be followed or not. If he wants to do that then he can live with the consequences i.e. porridge in this case.

It's a Hinch (I'll name names) publicity stunt anyway - yawwwn.  ::)
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: Gozza on January 16, 2014, 09:37:44 pm
Why should Hinch find himself 100k lighter because of the sake of a fair trial for some turd who should have been locked away good and properly years ago? The law is the law but reality is reality.
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: thrunthrublu on January 16, 2014, 10:15:37 pm
the beard is the same, not the girth or hair
wonder if the judge looked anything like pilot ?
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: cookie2 on January 16, 2014, 10:16:06 pm
Gozz, I've have zero sympathy for Hinch who is a self-serving ego maniac IMHO and I just don't ponder your question of him being $100K lighter - let him pay or do the time AFAIC.
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: Gozza on January 17, 2014, 08:04:37 am
Well people have to make a stand for issues they feel passionate about. If it was someone else would you be as critical?
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: cookie2 on January 17, 2014, 09:09:49 am
Each case on it own merits I guess Gozza. He chose to flout the law for his own self serving  purpose, therefore I have no sympathy for him.
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: Gozza on January 17, 2014, 09:31:00 am
For not protecting some revolting repeat violent sex offender?
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: Juddkreuzer on January 17, 2014, 09:49:21 am
Former magistrate Simon Cooper did not serve any jail time despite being found guilty of sex crimes against children yet Hinch  gets a 100k fine or 50 days in the can for breaching a suppression order. I'm not claiming that Derryn didn't break the law of the land as it stands but FFS who would you really want in jail.
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: Gozza on January 17, 2014, 10:02:16 am
Former magistrate Simon Cooper did not serve any jail time despite being found guilty of sex crimes against children yet Hinch  gets a 100k fine or 50 days in the can for breaching a suppression order. I'm not claiming that Derryn didn't break the law of the land as it stands but FFS who would you really want in jail.

See one of my posts above. The legal system is that far up its own arse. Wastes of space who should have been swallowed by their mothers tend not to get the book thrown at them while others, victims, innocents and the rest of society can go fark themselves. Our system in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: cookie2 on January 17, 2014, 10:26:25 am
Former magistrate Simon Cooper did not serve any jail time despite being found guilty of sex crimes against children yet Hinch  gets a 100k fine or 50 days in the can for breaching a suppression order. I'm not claiming that Derryn didn't break the law of the land as it stands but FFS who would you really want in jail.

Repeat offender Hinch does not have to go to jail if he pays the fine - much more publicity to be gained by going to jail though. All those juicy shots of him on the evening news, in tears, saying farewell to his family before being led off to the slammer! If some people are prepared to buy that so be it but I'm not.
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: Navy Maven on January 17, 2014, 10:35:30 am
The law is the law - if we don't like it then we should demand change - all for that.

Hinch has taken it upon himself to make the determination himself though as to whether the law is to be followed or not. If he wants to do that then he can live with the consequences i.e. porridge in this case.

It's a Hinch (I'll name names) publicity stunt anyway - yawwwn.  ::)

Hinch is demanding that the laws change, has been campaigning for that for some time. At least he'll let his actions back up the words.

You're damn straight it's a publicity stunt, it brings to the publics attention how inadequate our current laws are where the scum have more rights than the victims.

I think a lot of us have been demanding changes to the law, and when the useless twat Ted Baillieu became Premier he said that he was going to get tough on crime and push for harsher sentencing. What a joke that was.

Our prison system has been overcrowded for more than a decade, which is why pedophiles and rapists continuously get light or suspended sentences. There's nowhere to put them. Then to add insult to injury you've got all of these laws to protect the identities of the sick bastards.

I don't care if Derryn Hinch does get some pleasure out of his martyrdom, the fact is he's doing the right thing and for that I hold him in the highest respect. I wish there were more people like him in the public eye.
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on January 17, 2014, 10:44:40 am
+1

Hinch is not going to jail to satisfy his own needs.
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: cookie2 on January 17, 2014, 10:58:19 am
More about his ratings IMO.
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: Gozza on January 17, 2014, 11:19:27 am
+1

Hinch is not going to jail to satisfy his own needs.

He is going to jail. 

Wait I think I read it wrong.  ;D
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on January 17, 2014, 11:32:53 am
More about his ratings IMO.

His ratings are fine cookie he's made a good living has plenty of coin etc. Surely his career will take a hit from spending 50 days in jail.
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: cookie2 on January 17, 2014, 11:57:09 am
More about his ratings IMO.

His ratings are fine cookie he's made a good living has plenty of coin etc. Surely his career will take a hit from spending 50 days in jail.

Mate, if he's got plenty of coin why doesn't he pay the fine and avoid the slammer?  ???
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: Gozza on January 17, 2014, 11:59:16 am
More about his ratings IMO.

His ratings are fine cookie he's made a good living has plenty of coin etc. Surely his career will take a hit from spending 50 days in jail.

Mate, if he's got plenty of coin why doesn't he pay the fine and avoid the slammer?  ???

Because there's a principle involved.
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on January 17, 2014, 12:00:57 pm
More about his ratings IMO.

His ratings are fine cookie he's made a good living has plenty of coin etc. Surely his career will take a hit from spending 50 days in jail.

Mate, if he's got plenty of coin why doesn't he pay the fine and avoid the slammer?  ???

Because there's a principle involved.

Yes correct.

Cookie your point is a good one but the hit he takes from 50 days off air would be far greater than any positive effect playing the martyr may have for his career.
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: cookie2 on January 17, 2014, 12:40:12 pm
Sorry guys but I just don't buy Hinch.
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on January 17, 2014, 01:42:19 pm
Sorry guys but I just don't buy Hinch.

Neither do I but I'm not letting my bias get in the way! :P
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: cookie2 on January 17, 2014, 01:47:34 pm
Sorry guys but I just don't buy Hinch.

Neither do but I'm not letting my bias get in the way! :P

 :))
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: Baggers on January 17, 2014, 05:39:25 pm
Derryn, himself, was a victim of child sex abuse and explains much of his anx re sex offenders. And he's a flamboyant journalist. If you're going to rate, you're going to have to 'stand out.' He will benefit more from jail time publicity than simply paying the fine. And that means we'll be hearing lots about him and then lots from him when out of prison. The loot he'll get from his story and subsequent publicity will put him, $ wise, way out in front. His manner still irks me, but his passion for justice I believe is needed; very needed. Not enough like him in that respect... especially in our limp attitude to social justice.

But there's a bigger issue here which NAVY MAVEN articulated really well.

We have a right to be outraged by injustice and we should express that outrage. It's an outrage that is too easily quietened in today's distraction obsessed culture.

Sexual crimes are especially vile... and so are the sick creatures who perpetrate them. One of the main ideas of incarceration is to PROTECT innocent citizens... hell, they don't even have to be innocent! And our legal systems are failing, grandly in this area. There's an Irish family, forever, now, living in grief because a sick individual was allowed back on the streets too early... and there are many others.

And it goes even further! How many sick bastards running major organisations get away with all manner of crime? Hell, one of the most influential nations on the planet wanted to impeach a President for lying about having his stalk smoked by an intern yet a pile of refuse lied to the same nation about WMDs which ended in 100,000s of people dying!  :-X So much more I'd love to write about that (and have in other more appropriate forums). :-X

In one respect, thank the gods for the Hinches, Pilgers, Moores etc. We need much more courage in journalism today... just look at what another pile of refuse is getting away with (Abbott and his 'secret men's club of running govt.') at present. Mm, yes, went on a bit... touched a nerve.
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: sandsmere on January 18, 2014, 06:36:54 am
Very good post Navy Maven .

A pity there aren't more public figures out there with the guts to name and shame these grubs like Hinch  has done .
50 days in the nick to save hundred grand . I can see the value in doing that .
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on January 18, 2014, 11:38:04 am
The law is the law - if we don't like it then we should demand change - all for that.

Hinch has taken it upon himself to make the determination himself though as to whether the law is to be followed or not. If he wants to do that then he can live with the consequences i.e. porridge in this case.

It's a Hinch (I'll name names) publicity stunt anyway - yawwwn.  ::)

Hinch is demanding that the laws change, has been campaigning for that for some time. At least he'll let his actions back up the words.

You're damn straight it's a publicity stunt, it brings to the publics attention how inadequate our current laws are where the scum have more rights than the victims.

I think a lot of us have been demanding changes to the law, and when the useless twat Ted Baillieu became Premier he said that he was going to get tough on crime and push for harsher sentencing. What a joke that was.

Our prison system has been overcrowded for more than a decade, which is why pedophiles and rapists continuously get light or suspended sentences. There's nowhere to put them. Then to add insult to injury you've got all of these laws to protect the identities of the sick bastards.

I don't care if Derryn Hinch does get some pleasure out of his martyrdom, the fact is he's doing the right thing and for that I hold him in the highest respect. I wish there were more people like him in the public eye.

Fair comments and I agree, I understand Cookies viewpoint that  Hinch is a self promoting headline seeker but if he is a means to an end then I am willing to look at the bigger issue and overlook Hinch's negatives....
We need to get tougher on these type of crimes and the system has failed.....if it takes Hinch to highlight  these failings in the media then so be it...

Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: Phillipwh on January 21, 2014, 10:04:46 am
Hinch in the nick
let me mind the key !!
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: cookie2 on January 21, 2014, 12:03:56 pm
[flash=200,200]http://www.youtube.com/v/OmBUiKfPBTU[/flash]

Hunch names names!  ;D
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: deags on January 24, 2014, 10:20:33 pm
I have no problem with people standing up for what they believe in, as long as they are prepared to pay the price for their actions.
However Hinch needs to find some other way of making his point rather than jeopardising the trial and or sentencing of someone before the courts. What will Hinch say when someone he names escapes penalty due to the actions of Hinch prejudicing the hearing? Or when the victims of one of these crimes loses their right to anonymity due to his actions?
We have these laws for a reason.
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: DJC on January 26, 2014, 08:34:14 pm
I have no problem with people standing up for what they believe in, as long as they are prepared to pay the price for their actions.
However Hinch needs to find some other way of making his point rather than jeopardising the trial and or sentencing of someone before the courts. What will Hinch say when someone he names escapes penalty due to the actions of Hinch prejudicing the hearing? Or when the victims of one of these crimes loses their right to anonymity due to his actions?
We have these laws for a reason.

Exactly!

Hinch is a grub with an ego and he's more concerned about his own reputation than any sense of justice.  I'd love to see the prick rot in gaol.
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: Gozza on January 26, 2014, 08:41:34 pm
I have no problem with people standing up for what they believe in, as long as they are prepared to pay the price for their actions.
However Hinch needs to find some other way of making his point rather than jeopardising the trial and or sentencing of someone before the courts. What will Hinch say when someone he names escapes penalty due to the actions of Hinch prejudicing the hearing? Or when the victims of one of these crimes loses their right to anonymity due to his actions?
We have these laws for a reason.

Exactly!

Hinch is a grub with an ego and he's more concerned about his own reputation than any sense of justice.  I'd love to see the prick rot in gaol.

There are so, so many more people in society I'd like to see locked away for life than Derryn Hinch. No doubt you'd agree with me.
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: DJC on January 26, 2014, 08:43:55 pm
I have no problem with people standing up for what they believe in, as long as they are prepared to pay the price for their actions.
However Hinch needs to find some other way of making his point rather than jeopardising the trial and or sentencing of someone before the courts. What will Hinch say when someone he names escapes penalty due to the actions of Hinch prejudicing the hearing? Or when the victims of one of these crimes loses their right to anonymity due to his actions?
We have these laws for a reason.

Exactly!

Hinch is a grub with an ego and he's more concerned about his own reputation than any sense of justice.  I'd love to see the prick rot in gaol.

There are so, so many more people in society I'd like to see locked away for life than Derryn Hinch. No doubt you'd agree with me.

I'd like to see them all sharing a cell with the Human Headline  ;)
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: Baggers on January 31, 2014, 11:17:02 am
Anyone who refers to Alan Jones as "...bitter old queen..." gets my vote.  ;D
Title: Re: Derryn Hinch going in prison
Post by: Gozza on February 01, 2014, 07:26:14 am
I want to be just like Derryn Hinch.  ;D