Pre game Promise AFL Rd 18 Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG

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Re: Pre game Promise AFL Rd 18 Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG

Reply #60 – July 15, 2021, 10:04:33 am

Quote from: Baggers on July 15, 2021, 09:59:55 am

I hope The TT allows for the occasion of us v Dagpies, the history, to seep into the playing group - it'll give them that little extra motivation. He said he is effectively against highlighting any game over another... please forget this, if the sense of occasion is allowed to soak into our group... we'll win by 44+.

I'd have to agree with Teague on this one. Malthouse said the same thing. In an age of national drafts, salary caps, national competition etc., I think those territorial battles are a thing of the past, a notion that exists more in the minds of older supporters. I doubt the players buy into it, and the younger generation certainly don't. Unless they start offering extra points for beating traditional foes, the other 17 teams are much of a muchness in my eyes.

Re: Pre game Promise AFL Rd 18 Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG

Reply #61 – July 15, 2021, 10:10:24 am

Quote from: PaulP on July 15, 2021, 10:04:33 am

I'd have to agree with Teague on this one. Malthouse said the same thing. In an age of national drafts, salary caps, national competition etc., I think those territorial battles are a thing of the past, a notion that exists more in the minds of older supporters. I doubt the players buy into it, and the younger generation certainly don't. Unless they start offering extra points for beating traditional foes, the other 17 teams are much of a muchness in my eyes.

This is true, fans see a great difference between the bottom teams and the top teams, but as a percentage the difference is almost trivial.

+/-5% and you go from chocolates to boiled lollies in modern football.

Re: Pre game Promise AFL Rd 18 Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG

Reply #62 – July 15, 2021, 10:14:35 am

Quote from: PaulP on July 15, 2021, 10:04:33 am

I'd have to agree with Teague on this one. Malthouse said the same thing. In an age of national drafts, salary caps, national competition etc., I think those territorial battles are a thing of the past, a notion that exists more in the minds of older supporters. I doubt the players buy into it, and the younger generation certainly don't. Unless they start offering extra points for beating traditional foes, the other 17 teams are much of a muchness in my eyes.

We can have both.

*people start thinking "here he goes again"*

Have divisions and conferences.....just like the NFL.

If you have a divsion in which Carlton and Collingwood play against eachother twice a year, every year, and the winner of that division gets a guaranteed finals spot.....you'll see that rivalry not only continue but be enhanced - quicksmart!

You do the whole thing in a way in which the AFL no longer has to fixture who plays who, but the finishing positions from the previous year calculates who plays who.

It is a blend of old vs new that makes things fairer for all involved.

Re: Pre game Promise AFL Rd 18 Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG

Reply #63 – July 15, 2021, 07:10:31 pm

CARLTON
In: L.Jones, Z.Fisher, L.O'Brien, J.Honey
Out: W.Setterfield (omitted)

Last week's sub: M.Cottrell (unused)

From the AFL website.

Re: Pre game Promise AFL Rd 18 Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG

Reply #64 – July 15, 2021, 07:30:52 pm

Gone tall. Trying to expose our lack of height in the backline. It’s going to be wet so Cox will be useless.

Re: Pre game Promise AFL Rd 18 Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG

Reply #65 – July 15, 2021, 10:32:45 pm

Quote from: townsendcalling on July 15, 2021, 07:30:52 pm

Gone tall. Trying to expose our lack of height in the backline. It’s going to be wet so Cox will be useless.

Wont play IMO....on form it will be Ginnivan and Poulter in. Think they will be looking for the ball on the ground up forward where they have
some smart smalls. Someone like Mihocek will get Weitering to play as a negative forward on him to lead him out of the play and stop him marking the ball when they go long.
They have been rotating Grundy and Cameron in the ruck and at Full Forward, dont expect many marks in the wet from them but again if Jones plays then I think the idea will be to stop him marking the ball and get it to ground. Not sure who we play on Elliott but they will be important to our success.
Blues to do it for Serge and win by 7 points...

Re: Pre game Promise AFL Rd 18 Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG

Reply #66 – July 15, 2021, 10:43:26 pm

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on July 15, 2021, 10:32:45 pm

Wont play IMO....on form it will be Ginnivan and Poulter in. Think they will be looking for the ball on the ground up forward where they have
some smart smalls. Someone like Mihocek will get Weitering to play as a negative forward on him to lead him out of the play and stop him marking the ball when they go long.
They have been rotating Grundy and Cameron in the ruck and at Full Forward, dont expect many marks in the wet from them but again if Jones plays then I think the idea will be to stop him marking the ball and get it to ground. Not sure who we play on Elliott but they will be important to our success.
Blues to do it for Serge and win by 7 points...

Plow on Mihocek?

Re: Pre game Promise AFL Rd 18 Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG

Reply #67 – July 15, 2021, 10:57:11 pm

Quote from: flyboy77 on July 15, 2021, 10:43:26 pm

Plow on Mihocek?

Plow had Degoey last match.....ended in tears...he is probably the same size as Mihocek so he could lineup on him.
Jones maybe on DeGoey or even Elliott, Curnow has to take Adams although I expect Adams to try and pick up Walsh.

Re: Pre game Promise AFL Rd 18 Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG

Reply #68 – July 16, 2021, 09:04:19 am

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on July 15, 2021, 10:57:11 pm

Plow had Degoey last match.....ended in tears...he is probably the same size as Mihocek so he could lineup on him.
Jones maybe on DeGoey or even Elliott, Curnow has to take Adams although I expect Adams to try and pick up Walsh.

Stocker on degoey?

Re: Pre game Promise AFL Rd 18 Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG

Reply #69 – July 16, 2021, 09:12:25 am

Although not a betting person, I'll put a red spot on us - first time I've ever bet on a game. H to kick 4 and BlueBaggers to win by 44+.

Re: Pre game Promise AFL Rd 18 Carlton vs Collingwood at the MCG

Reply #70 – July 16, 2021, 09:16:48 am

Quote from: Baggers on July 16, 2021, 09:12:25 am

Although not a betting person, I'll put a red spot on us - first time I've ever bet on a game. H to kick 4 and BlueBaggers to win by 44+.

We hope you win!

Myself I'm a tad nervous that under a new coach, and with our own reshuffled coaching line up, the Filth are a bit of a known unknown. I'm not sure we are even close to nailing down our own game plan let alone having a solid grasp on an opponent's.