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Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd 19 Carlton vs North Melbourne at Marvel?

Reply #45 –
Some are assuming this will be Murphy's final season. Whilst it seems more likely than less, there's no indication from club or player one way or the other. There's a few different arrangements by which he could contribute next season, without necessarily being one of main playing group.

Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd 19 Carlton vs North Melbourne at Marvel?

Reply #46 –
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Its Ed's 200th and Charlie is harrassing the coaches trying to get back for this game.
Charlie was supposedly going to be back for next week.
Should we 'risk it' ? No.

Bring him back for Ed's 200th! No Be far better for Charlie, if ready, to come back the week after, that way each Curnow is a focus for each week - Charlie's return will be a massive event for him, club and supporters all on its Pat Malone. Let Ed have the limelight this week.

Casboult won't come up. It'd be good to have another athletic tall in the team.
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Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd 19 Carlton vs North Melbourne at Marvel?

Reply #47 –
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Casboult won't come up. It'd be good to have another athletic tall in the team.
If the rumours are true, Levi's PCL injury is touch and go for him to even play again this season, he is a coin toss from immediate surgery. I suppose the club is in a tough spot, Pittonet recovering form surgery, De Koning is still a kid with a less than durable history, so I suppose if Levi is borderline he stays as an option that can play if needed be it with some hinderence.

In hindsight they probably should have addressed Levi's PCL when it first happened early in the season, and he could well be almost ready to resume now. Most PCL's excluding the most severe cases are back in about 12 weeks.

Oscar McDonald can't be far away.
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Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd 19 Carlton vs North Melbourne at Marvel?

Reply #48 –
Quote from: LP on
If the rumours are true, his PCL injury is touch and go for him to even play again this season, he is a coin toss from immediate surgery.

Oscar McDonald can't be far away.

Oscar Levi and Mitch are all on the cusp of returning in the next couple weeks.

Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd 19 Carlton vs North Melbourne at Marvel?

Reply #49 –
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Oscar Levi and Mitch are all on the cusp of returning in the next couple weeks.
Sorry got me still editing.

I've heard Levi could play now, but in reality should be at least a month away.
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Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd 19 Carlton vs North Melbourne at Marvel?

Reply #50 –
Quote from: PaulP on
Some are assuming this will be Murphy's final season. Whilst it seems more likely than less, there's no indication from club or player one way or the other. There's a few different arrangements by which he could contribute next season, without necessarily being one of main playing group.

I think that it will largely depend on whether Murph wants to go around again knowing that he is being overtaken by younger players.  He could be of value as a depth player and mentor but I suspect that he will pull the pin.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd 19 Carlton vs North Melbourne at Marvel?

Reply #52 –
I think the most likely changes are Newnes, Cottrell or Williamson. I didn't think they did much wrong, but they struggled a bit to have an influence.

I'd personally like to see Williamson get more a run, so probably Newnes or Cottrell. Fisher, SPS and Dow didn't have great games, but they need so string some games together.

You could probably make an argument for Fogarty to go back to the 2s for a week at least.

It's tough to judge these players, because you don't know what directives they are given by the coaching staff, they may have played their role perfectly but still looked less than influential to fans!

I hope they do not drop Williamson then move SPS back to the HBF, that would be a backwards step.

I think the only place for sMurph to come in is off the bench and be prepared to play a role with limited midfield time unless things turn sour.
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Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd 19 Carlton vs North Melbourne at Marvel?

Reply #53 –
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With this change, we lose significant front half pressure that Owies gives us.

Owies has been a good find. Like to leave him in the side. Last 2 weeks has been point kicking rather than goal kicking. Was kicking straight then got Carltonised....lol.
 

Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd 19 Carlton vs North Melbourne at Marvel?

Reply #54 –
Quote from: LP on
I think the most likely changes are Newnes, Cottrell or Williamson. I didn't think they did much wrong, but they struggled a bit to have an influence.

I'd personally like to see Williamson get more a run, so probably Newnes or Cottrell. Fisher, SPS and Dow didn't have great games, but they need so string some games together.

You could probably make an argument for Fogarty to go back to the 2s for a week at least.

It's tough to judge these players, because you don't know what directives they are given by the coaching staff, they may have played their role perfectly but still looked less than influential to fans!

I hope they do not drop Williamson then move SPS back to the HBF, that would be a backwards step.

I think the only place for sMurph to come in is off the bench and be prepared to play a role with limited midfield time unless things turn sour.
Murphy might do some medical sub time to get him to 300.

Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd 19 Carlton vs North Melbourne at Marvel?

Reply #55 –
Quote from: laj on
Owies has been a good find. Like to leave him in the side. Last 2 weeks has been point kicking rather than goal kicking. Was kicking straight then got Carltonised....lol.

Hes still kicking straight, just not through the big sticks, and could use a bit more depth in his kicking (flatter, rather than higher but its going straight thats a start).
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Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd 19 Carlton vs North Melbourne at Marvel?

Reply #56 –
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Murphy might do some medical sub time to get him to 300.
Personally, I don't see guys like sMurph or Fogarty as value in the medical sub role, they should either be in or out, the sub for me needs to be more of a utility type like a Cottrell, Newnes or Williamson.

I appreciate being to medical sub too often is a real punishment.

I also think it's a bit pointless giving kids a medical sub role as their first game, it's happened at other clubs this season and I think it's also pointless.

If they change the rules for 2022 to increase the bench or the number of subs I reserve the right to change my opinion.
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Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd 19 Carlton vs North Melbourne at Marvel?

Reply #57 –
Quote from: laj on
Owies has been a good find. Like to leave him in the side. Last 2 weeks has been point kicking rather than goal kicking. Was kicking straight then got Carltonised....lol.
I think opponents are pushing him further up the ground to get outside his comfortable range, a few more games and he'll get that sorted and get the timing right to find the space he needs in comfortable range.

At the rate these guys travel it's only a second either way and you are 10m out of position.
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Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd 19 Carlton vs North Melbourne at Marvel?

Reply #58 –
Kruddler....I thought the same on Charlie....is it worth the punt this week....milestone game for Ed and let him ease back into it. He'd be rusty no doubt but if there's absolutely no doubt about his fitness, it could be worth it? No huge expectations but it'd take some pressure off Harry and would force Tarrant onto a direct opponent.

I'd leave Owies in there....hasn't been great the last couple of weeks but he's been okay for the most part and has let Betts get up the ground a bit.

If Cripps is fit enough, he plays....they've got guys like Cunnington, Zurhaar, Simpkin who like to throw their weight around a bit. If he comes in, it's probably Newnes that goes out. I thought Cottrell was better last week that some of his earlier games.

Goldstein might not be quick or mobile as such, but look back to the game against the Eagles....he pushed forward late and left Nic Nat in the middle of the ground and took a big mark in the goal square. At least we'll have Jones and Weitering down back but TDK will need to get on his bike and run him up and down a bit.

Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd 19 Carlton vs North Melbourne at Marvel?

Reply #59 –
how does plowman always escape criticism had a very poor game did nothing .