Re: 6 MCG Home Games 2015 Reply #15 – September 18, 2014, 07:32:54 am Quote from: madbluboy on September 18, 2014, 06:43:11 amNot a great start for the Judge and Trigg, Swan from all reports was close to getting us 8 games at the G.Even when swan was doing the negotiations, they were suggesting 6 games.
Re: 6 MCG Home Games 2015 Reply #16 – September 18, 2014, 07:40:49 am Quote from: ItsOurTime on September 18, 2014, 07:32:54 amQuote from: madbluboy on September 18, 2014, 06:43:11 amNot a great start for the Judge and Trigg, Swan from all reports was close to getting us 8 games at the G.Even when swan was doing the negotiations, they were suggesting 6 games.swan may have been suggesting but he didnt achieve it......
Re: 6 MCG Home Games 2015 Reply #17 – September 18, 2014, 08:02:06 am Quote from: madbluboy on September 18, 2014, 07:24:31 amCarlton chief executive Greg Swann confirmed this week that the Blues were talking to the AFL about future home-game arrangements, in which the club wants seven or eight games at the MCG, and the remainder at Etihad Stadium.''The board has decided to play more games at the MCG,''’ Swann said. ''We’re in negotiations with the AFL.''The Blues have long been on record that they would prefer to play more games at the MCG, though they have never pushed to play all of them at the larger stadium; while they would prefer an 8-3 MCG-Etihad split, seven games at the 'G and four at Etihad appears a better chance to win AFL backing. This would mean a shift of two home games from Docklands to the MCG.Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/blues-push-afl-for-new-mcg-deal-20140501-zr2ss.html#ixzz3DbucK4Yr
Re: 6 MCG Home Games 2015 Reply #18 – September 18, 2014, 08:08:11 am That says nothing about being close to anything. I'm sure Trigg and co would 'prefer' an 8/3 split as well.
Re: 6 MCG Home Games 2015 Reply #19 – September 18, 2014, 08:26:33 am Although not a major shift it's still a tiny step in the right direction. I know we seem to be playing better at Etihard this year, but much prefer G games. To tell you the truth as long as as there's less stinkin Monday night, Thursday night, Sunday night and twilight games I'll be happy.
Re: 6 MCG Home Games 2015 Reply #20 – September 18, 2014, 09:36:05 am Realistically, given our performance last season, our membership last season and the crowds we drew last season, any form of upgrade to the number of games we play at the MCG is a win for us.Really, though, it's the nature of the deal we've struck this time with Etihad that will determine whether we did well here. There's no reason those games couldn't be profitable or beneficial, especially given that finals are played at both stadiums these days, provided we didn't get bent over the barrel and our pants pulled down around our ankles like we did with the deal that Collins brokered for his own benefit.As it stands right now there are plenty of clubs bigger than us who deserve more MCG home games than us. Only we as a club can turn that around and we've got the next five years to do it now.
Re: 6 MCG Home Games 2015 Reply #21 – September 18, 2014, 09:40:50 am 6 big crowd drawing games at the MCG.....5 lesser drawing sides at Princes Park - Perfect !.......in an ideal world.
Re: 6 MCG Home Games 2015 Reply #22 – September 18, 2014, 10:34:14 am Im with Malo, we should start looking at lobbying to build a boutique initally 30 thousand odd seater at PP with plans to move to 40 and then 50 thousand odd moving forward, and ditch crapihad altogether.The Cats are upgrading down at Kardinia Park, and are not even half way through a project built in stages, where they are systematically refurbing and improving.We should follow that model and do the same.
Re: 6 MCG Home Games 2015 Reply #23 – September 18, 2014, 10:35:45 am Quote from: Thryleon on September 18, 2014, 10:34:14 amIm with Malo, we should start looking at lobbying to build a boutique initally 30 thousand odd seater at PP with plans to move to 40 and then 50 thousand odd moving forward, and ditch crapihad altogether.The Cats are upgrading down at Kardinia Park, and are not even half way through a project built in stages, where they are systematically refurbing and improving.We should follow that model and do the same.Yep.
Re: 6 MCG Home Games 2015 Reply #24 – September 18, 2014, 12:31:57 pm When you add the guaranteed 'away' games against Essendon and Collingwood, and possibly Richmond, Melbourne, Hawthorn, we might be at the G for a minimum of 8 and more likely 10 or 11 matches next year. That's not a bad result.Although I did start getting more fond of Etihad this year - about the only place we could win a game!
Re: 6 MCG Home Games 2015 Reply #25 – September 18, 2014, 12:42:02 pm Quote from: Baggers on September 18, 2014, 10:35:45 amQuote from: Thryleon on September 18, 2014, 10:34:14 amIm with Malo, we should start looking at lobbying to build a boutique initally 30 thousand odd seater at PP with plans to move to 40 and then 50 thousand odd moving forward, and ditch crapihad altogether.The Cats are upgrading down at Kardinia Park, and are not even half way through a project built in stages, where they are systematically refurbing and improving.We should follow that model and do the same.Yep.Make it x 2If Princes Park kept his larger ground size than Etihad , kept the Etihad seating and without the Etihad roof and sub floor car park would be brilliant...
Re: 6 MCG Home Games 2015 Reply #26 – September 18, 2014, 01:01:19 pm Quote from: Amers on September 17, 2014, 11:55:40 pmIt's a step in the right direction,and TBH we don't deserve much more than that right now.Hopefully membership and attendance numbers will improve in the future and force the league to give us even more games at the G. That is exactly what it is, a first step. Assuming we improve our membership base and winning profile, we can then increase the number of home games again. It may take time, but it is a first step. Now it is up to us to demonstrate we are deserving of more.The next issue we have is that we are finally player good football at Etihad. If that remains the case, then we have taken a backwards step.To be honest, I want us to win there, but I also want us to win at the MCG. Finals go not get played at Etihad very often.Winning at the MCG also shows that we can win on other surfaces and in the wet, neither of which has been particularly prevalent in 2014. That is another 'must' for 2015.
Re: 6 MCG Home Games 2015 Reply #27 – September 18, 2014, 01:12:39 pm Quote from: MosquitoFleet on September 18, 2014, 12:42:02 pmQuote from: Baggers on September 18, 2014, 10:35:45 amQuote from: Thryleon on September 18, 2014, 10:34:14 amIm with Malo, we should start looking at lobbying to build a boutique initally 30 thousand odd seater at PP with plans to move to 40 and then 50 thousand odd moving forward, and ditch crapihad altogether.The Cats are upgrading down at Kardinia Park, and are not even half way through a project built in stages, where they are systematically refurbing and improving.We should follow that model and do the same.Yep.Make it x 2If Princes Park kept his larger ground size than Etihad , kept the Etihad seating and without the Etihad roof and sub floor car park would be brilliant... Every time this coms up I grind my teeth with frustration: had John Elliott had a better relationship with the AFL we would still be laying at Princes Park and it would be a seriously upgraded place.Over the past 50 years we had to scrape and save to get money to improve our ground. But always we had to make compromises, some of them huge. With AFL backing there would be a true stadium able to hold at least 50,000 people with a huge underground car park available for Melbourne Uni and others during the week and decent lights allowing true night football. We probably would have been able to upgrade the public transport to boot, as the AFL and the various governments generally get along quite well.Instead, we are migratory with no home ground advantage, while the AFL pours money into rat holes like Kardinia Park.Maybe there can be a move to refurbish Princes Park (where Optus and Visy would probably fight to have naming rights again), but it would cost so much more now in just about every way possible. Certainly we would lose control.Elliott had some really good ideas, and his vision for our ground was one of them, but the animosity he engendered has made us suffer in so many ways.
Re: 6 MCG Home Games 2015 Reply #28 – September 18, 2014, 01:56:52 pm This year we played Port, WCE, Saints, North, GWS, and Cats at Ethiad as home games. Ethiad holds 40 odd thousand, with the exception of Geelong and the Saints maybe none of those games are going to draw much more than 40,000. Whilst the romance of more games at the MCG is good, playing the interstate and less well supported teams at Ethiad makes sense, if the deal is right.!
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