Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Reply #5227 –
I think we all need to take a big breathe about this stuff.
Generally, you need to put yourself on both sides of this.
1. we have a new vaccine. Nurses arent joe average. They aren't anti vax per se, but they will have an experience of the health care networks, and how they function which makes their stance slightly easier to understand than the run of the mill anti vaxxers who seem to pedal an entirely different mantra. People tend to form their perspectives based on life experience, and simply ignoring and belittling this thought process from what I would consider a medical professional, has its own issues. Remember, if these people aren't doing their job properly, they wouldnt be in the system to start with.
2. irrespective of where you sit on the mandatory jab situation, the nurses should have a right to not lose their jobs, if they are in the above category instead we need to work with, understand, and educate (this has been a sever shortfall of the current communication strategy). Im sure Q&A could arrange for better conversations to play out. I have had to have one too many arguments with people over what is at best, faulty thinking that confirms their biases both for and against vaccination and this is in the general public. They get their information through faulty sources and fill in gaps, where gaps appear. Dangerous in and of itself.
3. From the publics perspective, catching covid off an unvaccinated health care worker, is simply not an outcome that is going to do anything positive for anyone.
4. That means that all public health staff are going to have be mandatory vaxxed like it or not.
This doesnt mean that they are out of a job though. There are alternatives. They can do frequent rapid tests to ensure they arent working if positive. They can also be put in situations, where being vaccinated is less important i.e. working in facilities where people are fully vaccinated or potentially be in charge of surgical bookings which is not a face to face role, and does require a working knowledge of health and the health care system.
There is too much high horse stuff going on either way IMHO. There are assertions of knowledge, that are just simply impossible to know and generally the anti vax sentiment is more guilty of this than the pro, but the trepidation from the vaccine cautious who I put in a category of their own, is perfectly understandable and hence why I am less difinitive on it. Ultimately the benefits of vaccination clearly outweigh the pitfalls but if people are not really sold, then forcing them to get vaccinated might yield worse outcomes for society, where you end up with riots at the CFMEU offices as a classic example. I have no doubt, that the language surrounding the jab is what fueled that, and then shutting down that industry hurt the many to try and stop the few, and in turn, simply created a bigger problem.
What was the use in that? there was none. I think policing a mandatory jab is going to be a lot harder anyway because it relies on overly draconian measure put in place that the majority will reject. The consequence? you have created the movement you are trying to squash, when it should have been welcomed, debated and talked to.