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Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021

Reply #30
Carlton vs Gold Coast
Probably the most disheartening loss of the year and one of the reasons David Teague is history. Such a huge disappointment.

Trends:
[1]   There were 7 voters this week. There were 14 for the same round last year. There were 14 voters last week. I think that probably shows just how turned off our supporters are at the moment.

[2]   The rating of 6.14 wasn’t quite a disaster, but it said everything. That represents little more than an E. Poor, against a team that got thrashed previously and subsequently.

[3]   We had 3 players only get 100 votes or more. That compared to five for the previous game.

[4]   13 players managed a mention.

[5]   Nobody got votes from everybody this week. Not one.

[6]   Congratulations to Nick Newman for being BOG, his first of the year.

Votes:
Newman, Nicholas 246
Weitering, Jacob 189
Walsh, Sam 136
Jones, Liam 83
Kennedy, Matthew 79
Curnow, Edward 70
Honey, Joshua 35
Cripps, Patrick 26
Martin, Jack 26
Newnes, Jack 13
de Koning, Tom 9
Stocker, Liam 4
Plowman, Lachlan 4

Progressive Votes:
5431 - Walsh, Sam (0)
2848 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
1629 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1538 - McKay, Harrison (0)
1504 - Saad, Adam (0)
1457 - Jones, Liam (0)
1445 - Curnow, Edward (0)
1024 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
936 - Kennedy, Matthew (0)
742 - Docherty, Sam (0)
593 - Betts, Eddie (0)
540 - Newman, Nicholas (0)
429 - Dow, Patrick (0)
315 - William, Zac (0)
302 - Stocker, Liam (0)
302 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
290 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
199 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
195 - Newnes, Jack (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
177 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
175 - de Koning, Tom (0)
163 - Martin, Jack (0)
120 - Owies, Matthew (0)
114 - Cuningham, David (0)
107 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
103 - Murphy, Marc (0)
82 - Fisher, Zac (0)
74 - Honey, Joshua (0)
74 - Casboult, Levi (0)
46 - O'Brien, Lochie (0)
35 - Williamson, Tom (0)
20 - Setterfield, Will (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)

First and second are set in stone. Pretty close behind them.

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Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021

Reply #31
Carlton vs Port Adelaide:
One great half (1.75 quarters, anyway), and the rest doesn't require thought. Disgraceful. Unprofessional.

Trends:
[1]   There were 8 voters this week, a slight improvement.

[2]   The rating of 5.25 was very poor. That represents F+, almost.

[3]   We had 3 players only get 100 votes or more.

[4]   9 players managed a mention. That is very poor and so unlike your normal efforts.

[5]   Nobody got votes from everybody this week. For the 2nd week in a row!

[6]   Sam Walsh was BOG. Until ¾ time, he was easily the best on the ground, but he had 1 possession in the last quarter.

Votes:
Walsh, Sam 248
Weitering, Jacob 195
Kennedy, Matthew 180
de Koning, Tom 53
Honey, Joshua 38
Saad, Adam 30
Murphy, Marc 30
Curnow, Edward 8
Durdin, Corey 8

[Progressive Voting:
5678 - Walsh, Sam (0)
3043 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
1629 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1538 - McKay, Harrison (0)
1534 - Saad, Adam (0)
1457 - Jones, Liam (0)
1453 - Curnow, Edward (0)
1116 - Kennedy, Matthew (0)
1024 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
742 - Docherty, Sam (0)
593 - Betts, Eddie (0)
540 - Newman, Nicholas (0)
429 - Dow, Patrick (0)
315 - William, Zac (0)
302 - Stocker, Liam (0)
302 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
290 - Fogarty, Lachlan (0)
227 - de Koning, Tom (0)
199 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
195 - Newnes, Jack (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
177 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
163 - Martin, Jack (0)
133 - Murphy, Marc (0)
120 - Owies, Matthew (0)
114 - Cuningham, David (0)
112 - Honey, Joshua (0)
107 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
82 - Fisher, Zac (0)
74 - Casboult, Levi (0)
46 - O'Brien, Lochie (0)
35 - Williamson, Tom (0)
20 - Setterfield, Will (0)
8 - Durdin, Corey (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)



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Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021

Reply #32
Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS.
Few of our honourable losses were less honourable than this one. We really put it to GWS for all but a few minutes on either side of half time. But that wasn't enough. Again. Heartbreak. :( :(

Trends:
[1]   The voters weren’t tempted to make much of an appearance. There were 9 this week, which is not our worst. However, we get double that number and more when we’re winning.

[2]   We put up a much better effort and weren’t far away from a real contender. That wasn’t bad for half a team (or less). The rating, 8.04, reflected that. That represents a C.

[3]   4 players managed 100 votes of more, which is truly respectful. Last week we struggled to get 3.

[4]   3 players managed to get votes from everyone, which is a considerable improvement over the last couple of weeks. And another missed by a single voter.

[5]   12 players managed a mention this round, which is also an improvement. Unfortunately, there were a number of these players who contributed very little.

[6]   Congratulations to Ed Curnow for his BOG effort this week. 4 goals from a guy who doesn’t play as a forward says a lot, and not all of it good. This was his 2nd BOG for the year.

[7]   Sam Walsh managed to complete an amazing season. He was only not in the top three vote getters three times for the entire season. Jacob Weitering was similarly impressive. Only thrice did he miss being in the top eight.

Votes:
Curnow, Edward 379
Newman, Nicholas 226
Walsh, Sam 217
Weitering, Jacob 163
de Koning, Tom 90
Stocker, Liam 63
Kennedy, Matthew 36
Betts, Eddie 14
Casboult, Levi 14
Saad, Adam 5
Cripps, Patrick 5
Kemp, Brodie 5
Fogarty, Lachlan 5

Final Cumulative Votes:
5895 - Walsh, Sam (217)
3205 - Weitering, Jacob (163)
1832 - Curnow, Edward (380)
1634 - Cripps, Patrick (5)
1538 - Saad, Adam (5)
1538 - McKay, Harrison (0)
1457 - Jones, Liam (0)
1152 - Kennedy, Matthew (37)
1024 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
765 - Newman, Nicholas (226)
742 - Docherty, Sam (0)
607 - Betts, Eddie (14)
429 - Dow, Patrick (0)
365 - Stocker, Liam (64)
318 - de Koning, Tom (91)
315 - William, Zac (0)
302 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
294 - Fogarty, Lachlan (5)
199 - Pittonet, Marc (0)
195 - Newnes, Jack (0)
186 - Gibbons, Michael (0)
177 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
163 - Martin, Jack (0)
133 - Murphy, Marc (0)
120 - Owies, Matthew (0)
114 - Cuningham, David (0)
112 - Honey, Joshua (0)
107 - Cottrell, Matthew (0)
88 - Casboult, Levi (14)
82 - Fisher, Zac (0)
46 - O'Brien, Lochie (0)
35 - Williamson, Tom (0)
20 - Setterfield, Will (0)
8 - Durdin, Corey (0)
8 - McDonald, Oscar (0)
5 - Kemp, Brodie (5)



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Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021

Reply #33
What a superb job you've done crash.

It's always a well organized, timely, objective, good humoured thread. I'm grateful to you 👏🏽 and suggest you nominate for CFC board 😉
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Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
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Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021

Reply #34
Great job as always Crash. I am sure everyone here really appreciates your hard work putting this thread together.👍

Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021

Reply #35
Fun Fact.
Walsh could've finished first even if he missed the last 10 games.
He had more points after R12 than weitering ended up with after 22 in 2nd.

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Reply #36
Thanks Crash - appreciate your efforts!
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Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021

Reply #37
Fun Fact.
Walsh could've finished first even if he missed the last 10 games.
He had more points after R12 than weitering ended up with after 22 in 2nd.

Machine!

He is top 5 in the comp already. Will probably be number 1 next year.
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Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021

Reply #38
Thanks Crash for all your work.

Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021

Reply #39
I don't read The Hun, but I heard that in an article about Carlton Buckenara doesn't even rate Walsh an A-Grader.

Surely somebody is taking the piss! :o
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Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021

Reply #40
I don't read The Hun, but I heard that in an article about Carlton Buckenara doesn't even rate Walsh an A-Grader.

Surely somebody is taking the piss! :o
If it is Buckenara's position, then he has even less idea than Kane Cornes, and that is saying something.
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Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021

Reply #41
It says a lot about our season that 35 players this season managed to get some votes. Considering that some guys who played didn't manage a vote at all, it suggests that we haven't had a stable team.
That is an understatement. One of the things about successful teams is that they generally have a lot of stability in their line-up. Maybe our new coaching staff will manage to find that stability, but I doubt it.

One way of getting stability is to have few injuries. That is a trick we haven't managed this century yet. Certainly Russell cannot be the only source of blame: this trend goes back to the mid 90's at least. We have had at least 5 fitness guys since then: are they all duds? Very unlikely.
Do we blame out medical staff? Another good question with the same not very good answer. Now we have links with LaTrobe University's Sport's medicine people, it would be reasonable to expect that we have better results than other clubs. But we don't.
I know I go on about injuries, but teams that have a large portion of their best players off the field regularly don't make finals and don't win flags.
For example, how many votes did Charlie Curnow get this year?
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Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021

Reply #42
It says a lot about our season that 35 players this season managed to get some votes. Considering that some guys who played didn't manage a vote at all, it suggests that we haven't had a stable team.
That is an understatement. One of the things about successful teams is that they generally have a lot of stability in their line-up. Maybe our new coaching staff will manage to find that stability, but I doubt it.

One way of getting stability is to have few injuries. That is a trick we haven't managed this century yet. Certainly Russell cannot be the only source of blame: this trend goes back to the mid 90's at least. We have had at least 5 fitness guys since then: are they all duds? Very unlikely.
Do we blame out medical staff? Another good question with the same not very good answer. Now we have links with LaTrobe University's Sport's medicine people, it would be reasonable to expect that we have better results than other clubs. But we don't.
I know I go on about injuries, but teams that have a large portion of their best players off the field regularly don't make finals and don't win flags.
For example, how many votes did Charlie Curnow get this year?

Causation or correlation.....
Our club is a mess.
As a result it puts extra stress on the players, albeit mentally, not physically.
However, could the mental stress translate to physical injuries?

Mens Sana in corpore sano

More injuries this year than just about any other, more stress on the players and the club too.
So....causation or correlation?

Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021

Reply #43
I don't read The Hun, but I heard that in an article about Carlton Buckenara doesn't even rate Walsh an A-Grader.

Surely somebody is taking the piss! :o

Buckenara had Walsh in his top ten for the 2018 draft but rated four or five players ahead of him.  He won't concede that Walsh is an A-Grader until/unless his top four or five are and/or he's forced to do so by Walsh's overwhelming accolades.

Buckenara doesn't get much wrong ... in his own opinion  ::)
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Re: Jim Park Analysis 2021

Reply #44
Buckenara doesn't get much wrong ... in his own opinion  ::)
He's not a bad bloke, I've had quite a few chats with him down at the Frankston VFL ground where he is/was the venue manager, not sure if he still is.

But I think he's missed the whole board on that throw, some of it might be the doing of his editor, the old journo trick of adding some controversy to boost readers. If he is still around next time I get to a game at Frankston I'll ask him! ;D
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