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Agree....Lions had no excuses, we were down on key troops and they were at their fortress where they usually win....no premiership for Brisbane this season and he will be looking for a job at seasons end imo.

Its interesting with those players being high quality automatics most weeks but the smaller lineup with extra pace vs Brisbane seem to work well and that quartet would make us a lot slower and probably alter Brisbane's tactics.

Agree. Fantasia's smarts and disposal in tight were influential. Owies was probably our only 'not quite up to it' player.
Hollands, whose tireless work; defensive work, was terrific... however, he's got to become less fumbly and surer with his hands.
Crippa, Cera & Hewett were outstanding. Really well supported by Chugga and J Carroll - who looked like he belonged. Announced himself.
Good to see Cunners going in hard with his body at times when required.
Entire back-line deserves plaudits. (Pleasantly surprised by Young. Kempy tough and hard).
TDK's work was great. Hard at it. 2nd/3rd efforts, terrific.
H... silenced the glib and shallow critics in the best way possible.
Fogarty... tougher than a cat's head. Valuable. When he tackles someone, they remain tackled.
47pt turnaround speaks for itself about belief, persistence, endeavour, pressure and connection... when we bring our 'brand.'

Kinda feels like a 'bonus' 4pts considering where we played, conditions and an elite opposition. Go Blues!

Agree with that except dunno about Cunners. Has speed and is very skilful especially his finishing however, he just seems to me to play the game in a way that matches his demeanour. Quiet, enigmatic sometimes lackadaisical and shows very little emotion. I like to think he makes us better, but I'm not sure he actually does.

A bit like Bryce Gibbs!

Vossy wouldn't have Cuners in the team if wasn't working his butt off but he does give the impression that he's cruising.

Harry's a +200cm lightning fast KPF who takes contested marks in F50 when the heat is on, late in the game when TDK was rucking and we wanted to put heat around the footy he was even roving the stoppages at speed to bring a physical presence.

But after the game his first comment when asked about rucking was his shins are sore, and sore shins are a pre-cursor to a knee(PCL) and even a minor PCL will smash acceleration.

Like Cripps use him in the F50 at throw ins and ball ups, but the centre square stuff send chills down my spine, the benefit is so small and the risk is so high!

We will divide up ruck duties across the season, there will be weeks when pace isn't the priority issue, and it was clearly the issue last finals and last night, we even mentioned it in the pre-game thread that some of the selections can be explained by a need for pace. Other weeks we'll want size or strength around stoppages or a ruck option that floats a kick behind or into D50 which Pitto does far better than others.

So it mostly depends more on opposition strengths and weaknesses, more than our own, as we now have depth we can leverage. We won't become formulaic, because if we do we are predictable and that is the worst thing an AFL team can be.

I reckon the game was very well umpired last night. I thought we got the rub of the green and the ball bounced our way quite a few times also.

Adam saads drag in holding the ball was a gifted goal and he wasn't the one dragging it in.  Neale has a separate set of rules, and our boys get pinged a lot for stuff others get away with. 

Im not suggesting mistakes don't get made, they happen every week, human error. I think last nights game was good from an umpiring perspective. The bold bit is utter nonsense.

No it's not. You disagree with it.  Nonsense is the way you've attacked someone else's opinion you disagree with.

Adam saads drag in holding the ball was a gifted goal and he wasn't the one dragging it in.

A bit early to write off Brizvegas.