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AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

2nd last games of the Home and away season, this result will define our year.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #1
If we win its all academic, however:
If Car Lose by   WB need to win by
   1                           15
   2                           15
   3                           14
   4                           13
   5                           12
   6                           10
   7                           8
   8                           8
   9                           7
   10                           5
   11                           5
   12                           3
   13                           1
WB game is before ours so we will know what we need to do.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #2
If the Pies win today they'll go to 64
If I'm reading it right that'll secure their top 4 spot.

We on the other hand will still be fighting for a finals position.
We'll have the incentive...they may be looking to 'manage' a few players with reduced roles and avoiding injury.

Need to bring last nights effort.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #3
If the Pies win today they'll go to 64
If I'm reading it right that'll secure their top 4 spot.

We on the other hand will still be fighting for a finals position.
We'll have the incentive...they may be looking to 'manage' a few players with reduced roles and avoiding injury.

Need to bring last nights effort.
Dunno if I subscribe to this, I have always thought no matter where we both are on the ladder, its on like donkey kong. Both want to beat their arch rivals.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #4
Dunno if I subscribe to this, I have always thought no matter where we both are on the ladder, its on like donkey kong. Both want to beat their arch rivals.

That's true...but it's not often we get the situation that faces us next weekend.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #5
That's true...but it's not often we get the situation that faces us next weekend.
No we don't, and lets hope it never has to happen again.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #6
No we don't, and lets hope it never has to happen again.
Yep is strange usually we are discussing tanking and working our way to the 1st pick in the draft...
Booing of Cripps will be feral next week too, Pies fans will be out for some fun and I did find it annoying last night and it will only be worse when those duffle coated muppets start doing it...

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #7
I suspect the arch rivals notion is more for older supporters and older players. I think with the game going national, plus the draft, salary cap, no more traditional zones etc., I think the current players don't really see those traditional rivalries. It sounds like reading lines off a cue card when modern players talk about it. I remember Malthouse saying that those old territorial battles were a thing of the past when he was our coach, and I'd have to say I tend to agree.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #8
I suspect the arch rivals notion is more for older supporters and older players. I think with the game going national, plus the draft, salary cap, no more traditional zones etc., I think the current players don't really see those traditional rivalries. It sounds like reading lines off a cue card when modern players talk about it. I remember Malthouse saying that those old territorial battles were a thing of the past when he was our coach, and I'd have to say I tend to agree.
I could not disagree more.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time


Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #10
No worries. We can agree to disagree.
For sure, I'm not suggesting the rivalry is the be all and end all, I'm just saying its alive and well (thanks to groups like the SOC and the Woodsmen) and neither team will give an inch next week.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #11
Media keep the old school rivalry's alive because its good for business and ratings...the AFL love it too and Carlton playing finals especially vs the traditional rivals is a money tree guaranteed  to grow the AFL purse.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #12
Media keep the old school rivalry's alive because its good for business and ratings...the AFL love it too and Carlton playing finals especially vs the traditional rivals is a money tree guaranteed  to grow the AFL purse.

Yes, I think that's part of it. The groups that GTC refers to are completely justified in their feelings on this issue, but I think they represent a niche demographic within the supporter base, and one that is on the decline. The media is also keen to keep creating new rivalries.

 

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #13
Ginnivan hamstring.......already falling into place for us...

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #14
First home game in a month -- tough run for the lads but still think Collingwood are a little soft.