Carlton Supporters Club

If the club doesn't think McGovern is a KPD, why when he came back through the VFL a couple of seasons ago did they play him in the ruck?

https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/brodie-kemp/One mans opinion, sure, but shared by plenty of others.

Not sure how many 'midfield extractors' are classed as KPD's a year later.

Despite the size difference and despite my own personal opinion on the matter, i'd still prefer to play Weitering and Kemp over Weitering and Young.

Only way kemp will be defeated is if our team defence fails and he's left 1-on-1 with his taller opponent with no chance to jump at the ball.

Young on the other hand could be defeated by his opponent a number of ways.

Is there a VFL game?

Kemp played a couple of games in the midfield as a junior, that's it.  SOS said that Kemp could play midfield when he was drafted, but he said that about Plowman, Marchbank, Stocker, and others.  Despite the 'midfield extractor' tag, Kemp has played all of his football for us as a KPP.

Kemp does get beaten by taller opponents in one on one contests - Gawn in the semi - and by stronger opponents like Balta.  He also loses contests when he attempts to mark rather than spoil.   Young is more conservative and is happy to kill the contest if there's doubt about the outcome.  Young is a better match up for Larkey and Coleman-Kones than Kemp is, and I would play both, regardless of whether Weitering is in the team.

None of the other 'midfield' players played KP, so not sure why you bring that up, i think it hurts your argument more than helps it.

Kemp gets beaten by taller opponents....and by stronger opponents......does that not clearly point to the fact that is because is not a KPP? He doesn't have the size or strength to play there and be effective. Rather, he plays there because he is the best we've got at any given time, but is largely undersized.

Young is a better matchup, because he is an actual KPP. I think the 'errors' made by Young playing that role vs the 'errors' by Kemp playing that role mean that Kemp is the better player to have in the side.....even if it means you sacrifice some ability against the taller opponents that he'll be beaten one on one with. Mostly due to the fact that Young makes some silly errors that almost directly cost us goals.

To summarise, just because a player is played in a position, doesn't mean he is right for that position. If all our 190cm players got injured, someone would still have to play as a ruck on game day.....but just because we've shoehorned someone into that position, doesn't mean he is a genuine ruck. Same with Kemp, Marchbank......as KPPs.

Agreed Thry.....if we're serious and on, we should win easily. We still need to learn how to really bury sides when we have the advantage and % could be critical come the pointy end of the season.

Have to put a team to sleep soon and stamp our authority in the competition to send a message the team is capable at issuing beltings. But don't want to be Premiership favourites now imo.

Given Marchbank's inability to get out on the park and the fact that he hasn't played a game in a while, he's better off playing a couple of VFL games first.