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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by kruddler -
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Having watched the replay this morning, even the commentators were astounded by how much the Handbagger Dad's Army get away with, even Dunstall who normally thinks us getting a raw deal is good was inspired to something, before trying to explain it way with an excuse of being kind to the Handbaggers.
Dunstall only gives us a raw deal when we don't try.
He used to barrack for the blues and very much has a soft spot for us now. If he is critical, you can guarantee we are on here as well. He actually loves the club.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by LP -
Having watched the replay this morning, even the commentators were astounded by how much the Handbagger Dad's Army get away with, even Dunstall who normally thinks us getting a raw deal is good was inspired to something, before trying to explain it way with an excuse of being kind to the Handbaggers.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by laj -
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TDK  in an interview interview told of how when Charlie calls "iso", he wants them to clear the space and give him room (ie I assume iso means isolate). For me, divulging tactics in the media in any way shape or form is a no no. I get it, opo coaches know stuff about you already, but let them find it out themselves, dont give the info to them. Attention to detail.

Or be clever. Charlie calls "iso" and we kick it to Harry.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by kruddler -
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Nothing in the rule changes can stop the asymmetry, the problem is not a rule the problem is that some teams basically badger and batter officials until things fall their way.

A great example is happening today, rather than the AFL media focussing on Handbaggers continually infringing off the ball, the Handbagger mafia is at play beating up a storm about Williams staging for a free? The AFL media has largely ignored the act of holding 20m off the footy, it's a smokescreen by the Handbaggers, who are desperate to escape a focus on their off the ball activities.

Fans forget, when the Handbaggers do the fast break, it leaves opponents loose all over the ground, if the opposition force a turnover they are left vulnerable, so they get away with it by nefarious off the ball tactics that stop opponents finding or closing space.

We have more AFL umpires out on the ground than every before, how can it be they don't see the illegal holds and shepherds that allow the Handbagger Dad's Army to remain competitive?

You consistently seem to miss the point of removing the rule.
It doesn't fix every decision in the game.
It doesn't solve world hunger.
It doesn't cure cancer.

It fixes players/teams using it as a tactic to cause stoppages instead of trying to continue the play. Thats it.
Remove it, and that tactic goes with it.

The knock on from there is a much more free flowing game with more of a one-on-one focus because the ball will be pinging around so quickly (due to less stoppages) that teams will be found out if they don't man up. Leaving your man behind will be high risk, low reward.
In turn, that will help defensively with turnovers if you start with a more defensive mindset to begin with.

Currently, its attack at all costs and if it doesn't go your way, hatch the ball, cause a stoppage and reset.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by LP -
Nothing in any proposed rule changes can stop the asymmetry, the problem is not a rule the problem, it's that some teams basically badger and batter officials until things fall their way.

A great example is happening today, rather than the AFL media focussing on Handbaggers continually infringing off the ball, the Handbagger mafia is at play beating up a storm about Williams staging for a free? The AFL media has largely ignored the act of holding 20m off the footy, it's a smokescreen by the Handbaggers, who are desperate to escape a focus on their off the ball activities.

Another great example came from yesterday, Cripps continually gets coated hangered by opponents and while he get's some frees he probably deserves twice as many. He hunts the footy, puts his head over the ball and get's grabbed over the shoulder, the blokes 195cm, most have to reach up to grab his shoulders! It's bizarre in an ear in which the head is supposed to be protected.

Fans forget, when the Handbaggers do the fast break, it leaves opponents loose all over the ground, if the opposition force a turnover they are left vulnerable, so they get away with it by nefarious off the ball tactics that stop opponents finding or closing space.

We have more AFL umpires out on the ground than every before, how can it be they don't see the illegal holds and shepherds that allow the Handbagger Dad's Army to remain competitive? Those illegal checks and grabs, basically keep opponents close enough for the Dad's Army to impose pressure and slow the transition if they lose the footy. They also stop our own defence closing space when you turn it over yourself. Some fans have bought into it, but the reality is by the time Williams extricates himself from the arm drag it's too late, he's been illegally stopped / delayed and the opposition have 10m of clear space, so he has no choice and it didn't just happen once or just to Williams.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by Lods -
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I don't know what Cincotta has done or said but his card appears to be marked. I think i had him in my best 22 at the start of the year or at least next in line. He has been an emergency just about every game, and it doesn't how many injuries we get, he still remains an emergency.

The problem that's now been created is that he hasn't been playing football on a regular basis for a while now at any level...so will essentially come in cold.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by kruddler -
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Why can the likes of Tuohy or Guthrie take the footy run 2 or 3 steps, be tackled and then just hold onto to it unpenalised, but Hewett or Acres does that and it's holding the ball?

The constant just holding onto the ball without trying is furiating to watch.......but thats what happens with the 'no prior' rule.

I keep banging on about it, but remove that rule and that doesn't happen.

Players can't simply cause a stoppage because they want to by not attempting to move the ball on. THAT needs to be penalised, but current rules don't allow it.

Remove 'prior' and that immediately disappears. Players are handballing/kicking/slapping/punching/tapping the ball on rather than simply hatching it.
AFL won't do it, because they are too slow to see/fix trends and justify their own existence, but i'm telling you, the game would be much better for it.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by kruddler -
I don't know what Cincotta has done or said but his card appears to be marked. I think i had him in my best 22 at the start of the year or at least next in line. He has been an emergency just about every game, and it doesn't how many injuries we get, he still remains an emergency.

Honestly, i would've preferred him in the side over Young yesterday, and that is saying something with the twin towers they had there.
Young loses his opponent too many times, and that costs us goals. Kemp and Weitering don't lose their opponents half as much, and even if they did we'd still be better off with the extra run we'd get by not having Young as a hinderence in that area.
McGovern provides exactly that, and Cincotta is a poor mans McGovern.