Port Melbourne vs. Northern Blues
Saturday, Apr 25
North Port Oval at 2.00pm
Port Melbourne
B Tynan Noonan Van Unen
HB Osborne Sandilands Langford
C Wooffindin Cain Mascitti
HF T. O'Sullivan Lisle Batsanis
F Pearson Haretuku S. O'Sullivan
R C. Prowse Magner Toman
Int Purcell Gilmore Johnson M. Hayes Dermott Dickson Carter-Taylor* McKenzie C. Johnston
Northern Blues
B: Holman Fields Gowers
HB: Dick Jaksch McGuinness
C: Viojo Graham Smith
HF: Walsh Watson Bransgrove
F: Wilson Foster Totevski
R: Warnock Wilkinson Tutt
Int: Walton Cattapan Perry* Murray Strachan Bolger Russell Dirago Johnston
The team does not look as strong as it was last week. There will be at least 3 changes, with Tutt, Jaksch, Dick and Graham named
Port Melbourne vs. Northern Blues
Saturday, Apr 25
North Port Oval at 11am
Port Melbourne
B B. Hayes Lello Purcell
HB Mioni Cook Vearing
C Taylor Rivett Dermott
HF Halsall Scipione Breust
F Dove Clarke C. Johnston
R Gilmore McKenzie M. Hayes
Int Knowles Clinch Wenn Waddell Urban Macmillan Hogan Keogh Mahon
Northern Blues
B: Yelland Roberts Johnston
HB: McDonald Dirago Gleeson
C: Strachan Aujla Haynes
HF: Murray Coulson Armitage
F: Conlon Walton Soncin
R: Bolger Ballard Cattapan
Int: Aurrichio Langwell McDonagh Asani Tardio McCabe Wild Kinsella Kur Toman Stevens
I'm really keen on Walsh as a player and hope he gets plenty of onball time, genuine old fashioned rover who can make the grade IMO..
Who this guy?
(http://image.wikifoundry.com/image/1/o-Ih9a61uJkYZuAMSNYgZQ48691/GW330H330)
Walsh wants it real bad, that's why he's gonna make it.
Will be interesting to watch Billy Gowers in action as well.
I'm really keen on Walsh as a player and hope he gets plenty of onball time, genuine old fashioned rover who can make the grade IMO..
He isn't the quickest guy going around, but I have liked what I have seen.
Not looking like a win: last quarter with less than 10 minutes to go.
PM 14.14.98, NB 11.14.80
Considering what's on the park for us, this is a pretty good effort.
DISPOSALS: Cattapan 21, Graham 20, Wilson 20, McGuinness 20, Warnock 14, Smith 14.
This was at 3/4 time.
Not long now
15.14.104, NB 11.14.80
From the commentary on twitter we did a heap of attacking in the last quarter but couldn't get the ball through the middle. They, on the other hand, made something of our mistakes. Does that sound similar?
All over now and we lost again.
Northern Blues: 11 - 15 - 81
Port Melbourne: 15 - 14 - 104
It was described as 'a devastating loss', which suggests we must have put in a fair effort. However, looking down the list of tweets it looks fairly clear that we were punished on the turnovers, even though we may have worked hard.
Considering how many players were out, it really was a brave effort.
GOALS: Watson 3, Murray 2, Wilson 2, Foster, Graham, Perry, Viojo-Rainbow.
Disposals: Graham 26, Cattapan 25, McGuinness 24, Wilson 23, Warnock 19, Walsh 19
Very pleased to see a decent contribution from some of the Preston listed lads, as last year we were very poor in this area. Good to see Warnock getting some of the pill. Walsh getting 19 possessions probably wasn't enough, but he is improving. I hope he can make it: he has a good attitude. No mention of Smith or Holman.
2015 AFL Victoria Development League
Port Melbourne 2.3 7.6 11.6 13.7 (85)
Northern Blues 2.1 3.2 5.4 5.4 (34)
GOALS:
Port Melbourne: Gilmore 3 Taylor 2 Rivett 2 Dove 2 Halsall Macmillan Jenkins Keogh
Northern Blues: Armitage Asani Ballard Walton McDonagh
BEST:
Port Melbourne: Hayes Gilmore Rivett McKenzie Keogh Halsall
Northern Blues: Armitage Ballard Haynes Walton Kur Gleeson
VFL
Port Melbourne 4.8 8.10 10.12 15.14 (104)
Northern Blues 3.1 5.8 10.10 11.15 (81)
http://northernbluesfc.com.au/news/704-nbfc-preview-round-2-2016.html
Match report. Not bad by the sounds of things.
Warnock a chance to come up.
http://northernbluesfc.com.au/news/704-nbfc-preview-round-2-2016.html
Match report. Not bad by the sounds of things.
Warnock a chance to come up.
Why? To fill the 'useless player' hole that we have in our 22 currently after our win?
Any further news on what is happening with Whiley?
Why? To fill the 'useless player' hole that we have in our 22 currently after our win?
Agree, big no to Warnock.
Collingwood have been playing Grundy as basically a lone hand in the ruck. Two ways to look at it, either stretch them with Warnock or not be worried about the ruck as Wood will probably go well enough.
Don't think Robbie will get a game myself.
Collingwood have been playing Grundy as basically a lone hand in the ruck. Two ways to look at it, either stretch them with Warnock or not be worried about the ruck as Wood will probably go well enough.
Don't think Robbie will get a game myself.
Im led to believe Warnock is in hospital tonight. Touched the footy 19 times today and has developed an allergic reaction on his hands to Kangaroo Leather.
Why? To fill the 'useless player' hole that we have in our 22 currently after our win?
How is Casboult playing? Could Wood do his role better than him?
Graham another who could get a chance. It depends on how Carrazzo comes back, Buckley another under a cloud and Dick was a non event.
How is Casboult playing? Could Wood do his role better than him?
Graham another who could get a chance. It depends on how Carrazzo comes back, Buckley another under a cloud and Dick was a non event.
Wood had ten clearances.....that was more than Cripps and equal with Murphy, Warnock would be battling to touch the ball ten times in general play
other than with tapouts....
Like to see Graham get a run but he seems on the outer and I would suspect the defensive part of his game isnt up to scratch as he seems to find the ball
a lot in VFL games but is overlooked every week..
Wood had ten clearances.....that was more than Cripps and equal with Murphy, Warnock would be battling to touch the ball ten times in general play
other than with tapouts....
Won't get any argument from me, the taps are for turkeys! ;)
Warnock is the luxury you can have when your other main ruckmen is serious value as a KPF!
Walsh had 20.
Any reports how he went?
Walsh had 20.
Any reports how he went?
On BF they said he was good but the conditions suited him.
Bog heap apparently .
On BF they said he was good but the conditions suited him.
Bog heap apparently .
Hope Walsh gets his chance soon. Big bodied unit. We need his type.
Hope Walsh gets his chance soon. Big bodied unit. We need his type.
At 180cm he isn't that big. Looks thickly built but I walked passed him in Brunswick a few months ago, looks a lot smaller close up thats for sure.
PORT MELBOURNE 4.8 8.10 10.12 15. 14. (104)
NORTHERN BLUES 3.1 5.8 10.10 11. 15. (81)
GOALS
PORT MELBOURNE: Pearson 4, Sandilands 2, Lisle 2, Carter-Taylor 2, Cain, Purcell, Haretuku, Dickson, O’Sullivan
NORTHERN BLUES: Watson 3, Murray 2, Wilson 2, Foster, Graham, Perry, Viojo-Rainbow.
BEST
PORT MELBOURNE: Pearson, Cain, Noonan, Sandilands, Batsanis, Johnson
NORTHERN BLUES: Wilson, Graham, Warnock, Holman, McGuinness, Gowers
From the Northern Blues website.
What was promising was that Holman and Gowers got a mention for the solid negative jobs they did. Also a mention in the text for Fields, who for the 2nd week in a row has made an impression.
Wood had ten clearances.....that was more than Cripps and equal with Murphy, Warnock would be battling to touch the ball ten times in general play
other than with tapouts....
Most of Wood's clearances were blind kicks out of packs, I'm no Warnock fan but I don't think we'd lose anything by swapping them.
Wood also missed a soda for the second time in a fortnight, he's a very ordinary footballer, until we get Kreuzer back we'll struggle.
Most of Wood's clearances were blind kicks out of packs, I'm no Warnock fan but I don't think we'd lose anything by swapping them.
Wood also missed a soda for the second time in a fortnight, he's a very ordinary footballer, until we get Kreuzer back we'll struggle.
IMO, Wood is miles in front of Warnock in clearances and general around the ground play (marking). He is ok in front of goals also. Warnock is a 206cm witches hat who must be traded or delisted at years end.
How is Casboult playing? Could Wood do his role better than him?
Casboult + Wood >>> Casboult + Warnock >> Wood + Warnock.
Casboult + Wood >>> Casboult + Warnock >> Wood + Warnock.
All of the combos above that don't include Warnock are fine by me.
Did Whiley play yesterday?
Did Whiley play yesterday?
No.
Listed as hammy tightness I believe.
Casboult + Wood >>> Casboult + Warnock >> Wood + Warnock.
We're comparing crap to crappier, it's a sad state of affairs.
None of the three of them are any good, they wouldn't even be on the list at a top 8 club let alone playing seniors.
No.
Listed as hammy tightness I believe.
Thanks for that...I was hoping he would continue his form at senior level soon
IMO, Wood is miles in front of Warnock in clearances and general around the ground play (marking). He is ok in front of goals also. Warnock is a 206cm witches hat who must be traded or delisted at years end.
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Most of Wood's clearances were blind kicks out of packs, I'm no Warnock fan but I don't think we'd lose anything by swapping them.
Wood also missed a soda for the second time in a fortnight, he's a very ordinary footballer, until we get Kreuzer back we'll struggle.
Apart from the WC game when NicNat jumped all over him, Wood has been a more than useful contributor to our clearance dominance - long way from being a star but a useful player who plays up to be ability but I also think Warnock is judged too harshly. I am happy with either of them.
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Disagree. Warnock is a superb tap ruckman and we are at our best when he's rucking. He moves surprisingly well for his height and is a far better player than Cameron Wood.
Casboult is a favourite of mine, but his kicking for goal has now deteriorated to such a point that he needs to go back to the reserves and work on his kicking action for goal. We should play him FF in the Reserves and give him every chance to rectify the issue, without the pressure and scrutiny of AFL footy. In the interim, we can play Wood resting forward with Warnock rucking for most of the day.
Disagree. Warnock is a superb tap ruckman and we are at our best when he's rucking. He moves surprisingly well for his height and is a far better player than Cameron Wood.
Casboult is a favourite of mine, but his kicking for goal has now deteriorated to such a point that he needs to go back to the reserves and work on his kicking action for goal. We should play him FF in the Reserves and give him every chance to rectify the issue, without the pressure and scrutiny of AFL footy. In the interim, we can play Wood resting forward with Warnock rucking for most of the day.
Disagree, Warnock's taps are not worth the price the team must pay for a total lack of impact at ground level, in marking contests and general play. Wood might lose out on the tap but he follows up, shepherds, tackles, makes contests and provides a serious marking option all over the ground.
Further look at the Western Bulldogs experience today, they played the young mobile ruckmen who Jacobs easily flogged in tap outs winning clearance after clearance, but the Dogs smashed Adelaide all over the ground with rebound run, turnovers and high efficiency.
Apart from the WC game when NicNat jumped all over him, Wood has been a more than useful contributor to our clearance dominance - long way from being a star but a useful player who plays up to be ability but I also think Warnock is judged too harshly. I am happy with either of them.
I agree.
[1] Wood struggles against Giants and Supermen. Thankfully there are not many around. He does not have the ability to deal with NicNat at this stage, and he struggles with Sandilands (but who doesn't?). He is a good option who has worked a lot on his tap work and has done particularly well against the Drug Cheats.
At the moment he is probably our best option, as he is mobile enough to take grabs around the ground. Alas, this he has been doing little lately. He took maybe 4 more marks per game last year.
[2] Warnock is not as bad as he is sometimes made out to be. In the middle of last season he really hit a low patch and he did not recover that season. So far he has not shown that poor form and lack of confidence this year. At his best, he is a very good tap ruckman who usually gets a lot more clearances than would be expected. He does not take many marks: this is his biggest weakness. When he is playing well he does not allow his opponent to take many marks. At the beginning of last year he kept his opponents markless for 5 weeks (except for the Essendon game).
When he is on, he is a pretty decent kick, but when his confidence is low, he leans back and misses.
There will be times when they are both required.
IF (and it is a HUGE 'IF') Kreuzer gets back, he has the mobility to be a much better option than either of them. Unfortunately he has had so many injuries and whatnots that his kicking, once deadly, is now ordinary at best. I doubt we will ever see his best. But if we did, we would be happy.
Warnock isn't AFL standard.
Warnock isn't AFL standard.
Neither is Wood.
I watched Geelong/North today, Goldstein had a huge game and was the difference between the two sides.
Apart from the WC game when NicNat jumped all over him, Wood has been a more than useful contributor to our clearance dominance - long way from being a star but a useful player who plays up to be ability but I also think Warnock is judged too harshly. I am happy with either of them.
I'm not happy with them but I don't think there's much to choose between them.
Until Kreuzer is fit they're the best we can come up with.
Neither is Wood.
I watched Geelong/North today, Goldstein had a huge game and was the difference between the two sides.
Goldstein is a jet. Better than Jacobs and a real leader.
Goldstein is a jet. Better than Jacobs and a real leader.
Wood has played quite well on Goldstein in the past: he was one of the reasons we beat North last year.
However, both he and Warnock have their limitations. We badly need to draft a ruckman for our future.
Assuming we play both Wood and Warnock (not an unlikely event if we come up against a team like the Weagles with a good pair of ruckmen), then there is NO viable option playing for the Northern Blues and NO young kid coming up to replace them. THAT is one of my real worries. While we may not have a huge amount of class on our list, we do have an option for just about every position on the ground. We have a couple of tall forwards, a couple of tall defenders, a couple of mids, etc. But where are our rucks? Kreuzer is terribly injury prone and spends more time in the medical room than on the ground. Warnock has a history of injury almost as bad and almost as debilitating. Wood is the ONLY one who is generally sound. If he goes down.....
Jacobs leaving has left us short in this area. Sure he has days when he is beaten, but he does quite well in every game I have watched him play. Our track record with rucks of late hasn't been superb. Special-K, broken from day one as you stated, Warnock a trade that hasn't been a sensation. Wood has been serviceable and a cheap pick up. Maybe we need to rookie something with some more athletic ability. Not an athlete type who is tall, but a ruck who has some leap, and some agility at ground level. A Ryder type.
Jacobs leaving has left us short in this area. Sure he has days when he is beaten, but he does quite well in every game I have watched him play. Our track record with rucks of late hasn't been superb. Special-K, broken from day one as you stated, Warnock a trade that hasn't been a sensation. Wood has been serviceable and a cheap pick up. Maybe we need to rookie something with some more athletic ability. Not an athlete type who is tall, but a ruck who has some leap, and some agility at ground level. A Ryder type.
Not easy to find. Ryder's strength, like NicNat, is his leap and mobility. That is damn hard to find. It is why so many teams have tried out big Americans in recent times. They may not know much about the game, but they often have the athleticism and the sheer size. A couple of them are coming along nicely, although at their entry ages they probably won't have huge careers. A real problem with Americans, that. Their whole system does not allow youth to get a game until they are about 22.
Goldstein is a jet. Better than Jacobs and a real leader.
Was thinking that. Probably the best in the comp at the moment.
There are ruckman out there that are just begging for an opportunity we just need to do to someone what Adelaide did to us. Who is Port Adelaide's ruckman in the wings? Do Freo have one worth poaching?
Next rookie draft hit up a state league ruck who dominates at that level.
Neither is Wood.
I watched Geelong/North today, Goldstein had a huge game and was the difference between the two sides.
Wood does ok. Has value around the ground. We have two rucks, while not brilliant, who take marks and get a few touches.
Next rookie draft hit up a state league ruck who dominates at that level.
Insanity we didn't do this last year. We need that project ruckman on the back burner. If MK walks, we will be forced to sign Warnock again and the bumbling list management will continue.
General consensus among the recruiting community is that there hasn't been much in the way of ruckmen over the last couple of seasons. To be honest, there doesn't look like there is a lot in this crew either. However, I'd be willing, more than willing, to give one a try.
General consensus among the recruiting community is that there hasn't been much in the way of ruckmen over the last couple of seasons. To be honest, there doesn't look like there is a lot in this crew either. However, I'd be willing, more than willing, to give one a try.
I think we've had this discussion before. ???
There's not much point having a big lump as a rookie if they can't play.
I'm sure our scouts are scouring the land and sniffing around out of contract talls.
Insanity we didn't do this last year. We need that project ruckman on the back burner. If MK walks, we will be forced to sign Warnock again and the bumbling list management will continue.
I was hoping he'd be running by now - not much hope if he can't walk :o