This is the thread for the B&F tonight
Not long to go.
Place your last minute bets.
1) Cripps
2) Murphy
3) Docherty
4) Simpson
5) Everitt
Curnow should also poll well....plays a role.
I started typing mine out and realised it was the same as Lods
Rowe is my Smoky for Top 5.
I also wouldn't be surprised if Touhy does well. He played a lot better once Malthouse left.
1) Murphy
2) Cripps
3) Bell
4) Docherty
5) Curnow / Kreuzer
hmm yes, Tom Bell, in front of Everitt.
Guys who play most games also poll well.
No change from here for moi: ttp://www.carltonsc.com/index.php?topic=2440.0
Depends how they do the system. It changes seemingly every year.
Sometimes it is weighted on who plays best in wins.
Sometimes it is weighted on who plays the most games.
I'm going to go...
Docherty
Murphy
Cripps
Bell
Simpson
Yarran not there.
Yarran not there.
But I am...
Give us a wave jeffy :D
Watch live here
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2015-09-17/watch-jnm2015-live
I started typing mine out and realised it was the same as Lods
Rowe is my Smoky for Top 5.
If Rowe gets top 5 this year, we are in real trouble. He was worth top 5 last year, but this year he has been ordinary.
Curnow
Murphy
Cripps
Everitt
Docherty
Bolton very brief and actually not that insightful. I want to hear more about his gameplan etc
Yarran not there.
Hendo? ;D
Bolton very brief and actually not that insightful. I want to hear more about his gameplan etc
It might wanna know what cattle he has before he decides how best to utilise them.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/chris-yarran-a-noshow-at-carlton-bestandfairest-count-20150917-gjpa5p.html
Carlton star Chris Yarran is not attending the Blues' best-and-fairest count on Thursday night.
The Blues confirmed on Thursday Yarran was at home in Perth with family and had informed the club that he would not be attending the John Nicholls Medal at Crown Palladium.
Lachie Henderson will also miss the count. The players' non-attendance can be read as a statement that they want to leave the club.
He is Max Gawn. Must play hardball at the trade table.
But I am...
Would you like a medal or a chest to pin it on?
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/chris-yarran-a-noshow-at-carlton-bestandfairest-count-20150917-gjpa5p.html
Yarran's father was in court over an incident in prison. He may well have a legitimate family reason for missing the B & F.
Ummmm, Best First Year Player Blaine Boekhurst Shows where we are at!!
I also wouldn't be surprised if Touhy does well. He played a lot better once Malthouse left.
So far so good, BM!!
Dollhouse are rubbish.
Dollhouse are rubbish.
Wouldn't get past first round of X Factor!!
Having said that, the live stream is excellent. Who's the tosser of an MC??? Craig Willis too expensive this year???
Ummmm, Best First Year Player Blaine Boekhurst Shows where we are at!!
It still tells us that we didn't have much from the new group of 12 players this season.
Having said that, the live stream is excellent. Who's the tosser of an MC??? Craig Willis too expensive this year???
Brad McEwan from Channel 10.
The shushing of the crowd really irks me.
Is the MC actually alive? What a shocker.
Is the MC actually alive? What a shocker.
Gone the cheap option!!
After Round 15:
Zac Touhy 52
Marc Murphy 46
Tom Bell 38
Kade Simpson 36
Sam Docherty 34
Is the MC actually alive? What a shocker.
Cut him some slack, he's a lifelong Carlton supporter and related to Jim Clark from the Blood-bath GF ;)
2 rounds to go:
Murphy 67
Cripps 60
Touhy 60
Cut him some slack, he's a lifelong Carlton supporter and related to Jim Clark from the Blood-bath GF ;)
His grandfather would definitely think he's a tosser
After Round 21:
Marc Murphy 67
Patrick Cripps 60
Zac Tuohy 60
Tom Bell 49
Ed Curnow 49
Cripps won!
Amazing
Cripps won!
Amazing
What a gun.
Cripps in the last round!!! :o
After Round 23 (Final Scores):
Patrick Cripps 68
Marc Murphy 67
Zach Touhy
Tom Bell 57
Ed Curnow 57
Sam Docherty 48
I saw something on Twitter about Trigg telling Kruez how much we want him? And then there was massive applause.
Was that a good thing to do? Or awkward?
Well done Cripps! What a year he had!
Brad McEwan is an embarrassment.....
Wow, what a result. There is our new captain, and I better get a jumper to stitch the number 9 on the back. ;)
My old one with Ken Hunters number on the back was lost years ago.
I saw something on Twitter about Trigg telling Kruez how much we want him? And then there was massive applause.
Was that a good thing to do? Or awkward?
Seemed desperate.....
I'm legitimately surprised by that. I thought he'd be top 5 but to win - outstanding effort in year 2.
Cripps vs Nicholls in height.
Young Patrick could have taken on Polly!!!
Brad McEwan is an embarrassment.....
Tool
Murphy a touch stiff missing last few games. Great win by Cripps, especially one so young. Second youngest winner behind Big Nick himself.
Can't believe How well Touhy polled.
Seemed desperate.....
That's a shame. I had hoped it may have been passionate. Hopefully that won't push him further away.
2nd year and a B&F...third year maybe a Charlie.
If not it won't be far away.
Great stuff Crippa, congratulations.
That's a shame. I had hoped it may have been passionate. Hopefully that won't push him further away.
Sounded heartfelt and passionate to me. Hopefully it will be enough to counter the media's compensation pick hysteria.
2nd year and a B&F...third year maybe a Charlie.
If not it won't be far away.
Great stuff Crippa, congratulations.
Congratulations young Crippa....
What an impressive season. B & F, Runner up Rising star, Best 22 under 22, 8th contested possession in AFL, Chris Judd award..... And just 20 years of age with a mere 23 or so games to his name.
For mine, this exceptional performance is nothing short of Juddlike.
I've no doubt he'll lead his young teammates by example and be an exemplary leader, and likely Charlie recipient.
Can we sign him on a very long contract please? :P
Bring on his partnership with BB and a strong (stronger) list.
Can't believe How well Touhy polled.
Indictment of our current Coaching group.
Well done Crippa!!
First of many I suspect.
Indictment of our current Coaching group.
Says more about our team really.
Armfield and Carrazzo missed pretty much half a season each and ended up 10th and 11th.
Play every game and you're going to go well.
Hogan came 4th in the Dees' B&F. Viney polled more votes and he only played 16 games.
I thought Hogan did something nobody has ever done before and that key forwards are more important. ::)
Seemed desperate.....
No seemed genuine. Spoke with a few layers they are all going he stays
Indictment of our current Coaching group.
From what I understand of the voting system, players who do the job asked of them are rewarded. By all measures, Tuohy was down on previous years and didn't show the run and flair that made him more of an offensive weapon than dour defender. If that was playing to instructions, as the voting suggests, it is an indictment of our coaches. However, it also suggests that Tuohy is perhaps more versatile than we give him credit for.
It will be interesting to see how he is used next season and how he responds/develops.
I guess Tuohy was one of a few decent players that played every game.
Well done Patty Cripps, the first of quite possibly many B & F victories!!
Can't believe How well Touhy polled.
He was much better than last year but I wouldn't have had him that high.
Great to see Cripps win, he deserved it the most.
He was much better than last year but I wouldn't have had him that high.
Grew another leg when Mick left. Any personal issues there?
Grew another leg when Mick left. Any personal issues there?
I agree with that, he liked the freedom Barker gave him but are we to ignore Yarran and Henderson went the other way after Mick left?
After Round 23 (Final Scores):
Patrick Cripps 68
Marc Murphy 67
Zach Touhy
Tom Bell 57
Ed Curnow 57
Sam Docherty 48
Thanks for all the updates WW.
Fantastic win by Crippa. B+F, R/U in the Rising Star. Very happy the recruiters at least got this one so, so right. Would've been nice to see a tie between him and Murph.
Surprised to see 2E poll so high, and Doc poll so low. And Curnow ? How would've thought ?
Rowe is my Smoky for Top 5.
Geez shadesy - I usually rate your posts, but this one was an unmitigated shocker. Rowe stunk the joint up for about 3/4 of the year.....if he had've finished top 10, serious questions would've had to be asked.
I agree with that, he liked the freedom Barker gave him but are we to ignore Yarran and Henderson went the other way after Mick left?
I reckon Hendo has been poo for quite sometime TBH. Most overrated player to play at our club for the last 2-3 years. Even under Ratten he was okay, showed promise but never really fulfilled it.
http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/patrick-cripps-wins-carlton-best-and-fairest-20150917-gjp6vd.html
He thanked his mentors - Jamo and GIBBS! Wow.
So bell won a few awards but apparently still off to Brisbane :-\
Yep I noticed in our last win against Melbourne he seemed to celebrate extra hard with Jamo, I guess that explains it.
1. Patrick Cripps 68 votes (Games 20)
2. Marc Murphy 67 (Games 19)
3. Zach Tuohy 64 (Games 22)
4. Tom Bell 57 (Games 22)
4. Ed Curnow 57 (Games 22)
6. Sam Docherty 48 (Games 19)
7. Kade Simpson 45 (Games 20)
8. Andrejs Everitt 37 (Games 22)
9. Simon White 35 (Games 14)
10. Andrew Carrazzo 23 (Games 16)
Number of games is obviously a factor....it's why there is actually even more of a gap between the top 2 and the rest.
Following instructions or filling a role (sometimes at the expense of your own game) would be another it's why the count sometimes throws up the odd "who would have thought...." result.
1. Patrick Cripps 68 votes (Games 20)
2. Marc Murphy 67 (Games 19)
3. Zach Tuohy 64 (Games 22)
4. Tom Bell 57 (Games 22)
4. Ed Curnow 57 (Games 22)
6. Sam Docherty 48 (Games 19)
7. Kade Simpson 45 (Games 20)
8. Andrejs Everitt 37 (Games 22)
9. Simon White 35 (Games 14)
10. Andrew Carrazzo 23 (Games 16)
1. Murphy - NO
2. Doc - NO
3 Krooz - NO
4. Cripps - NO
5. Simpson - NO
6. Judd - NO
7. Bell - NO
8. Curnow - NO
9. Buckley - NO
10. Everitt - NO
Any only picked 7 of the top 10 :(
Well off. Oh well, at least I didn't pluck Rowe for 5th :P
We're not bad judges ;)..generally ;D
John Nicholls 2015 Top 10
1. Patrick Cripps 68 votes
2. Marc Murphy 67
3. Zach Tuohy 64
4. Tom Bell 57
4. Ed Curnow 57
6. Sam Docherty 48
7. Kade Simpson 45
8. Andrejs Everitt 37
9. Simon White 35
10. Andrew Carrazzo 23
The final standings for the Jim Park Medal for 2015:
1- Cripps, Patrick (1)
2 - Murphy, Marc (2)
3 - Bell, Tom (=4)
4- Docherty, Sam (6)
5- Simpson, Kade (7)
6 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
7 - Curnow, Edward (=4)
8 - Tuohy, Zach (3)
9- Judd, Chris (0)
10- Everitt, Andrejs (8 )
Should have been renamed, 'The Patrick Cripps Show.' Gee the young fella was impressive with his acceptance speeches, great memory re thanking everyone. Now to ground him so it doesn't go to his head, though he does seem like a very grounded and level headed kid.
Now for the culling to begin.
Even though he's locked away until the end of 2017, Trigg, Macca and SOS should put a 5 year extension in front on this kid.
I agree with that, he liked the freedom Barker gave him but are we to ignore Yarran and Henderson went the other way after Mick left?
Both were crap while Mick was coaching as well MBB.
Even though he's locked away until the end of 2017, Trigg, Macca and SOS should put a 5 year extension in front on this kid.
I said it a while back, just give him the keys to Ikon Park. We have our very own Nat Fyfe so nurture him, look after him, build the team around him.
Both were crap while Mick was coaching as well MBB.
They got worse. Yarran in particular after Barker dropped him for missing training.
“Together, whole of club, we are on a journey… a big journey…a journey to creating sustained success This is our destination and right now….this very moment, it’s where it begins!…and the secret to change is to not focus all the energy on the past… but on the future!”
Brendon Bolton
;)
Thought Paddy may get up, The youngest behind Sir John Nicholls and we all know how good he turned out
http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/patrick-cripps-wins-carlton-best-and-fairest-20150917-gjp6vd.html
He thanked his mentors - Jamo and GIBBS! Wow.
So bell won a few awards but apparently still off to Brisbane :-\
Best first-year player: Blaine Boekhorst
Best club man: Simon White
Carltonians high achievement award: Tom Bell
Blues coterie most improved: Tom Bell
Inner Blue ruthless award: Patrick Cripps
Spirit of Carlton award: Ed Curnow
Women of Carlton player ambassador award: Kade Simpson
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/patrick-cripps-wins-carlton-best-and-fairest-20150917-gjp6vd.html#ixzz3m2sRYw39
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Nice to see some of the names in these awards. It is a pity that we appear to be losing Bell. He has made a significant improvement this year. Sure, his disposal is questionable, but he gets the ball and he works hard.
Congratulations to Patrick Cripps. This one our recruiters got right!
Well done Patrick, a great effort and a well-deserved award. Looking forward to a long and successful career for you at CFC.
Best first-year player: Blaine Boekhorst
Best club man: Simon White
Carltonians high achievement award: Tom Bell
Blues coterie most improved: Tom Bell
Inner Blue ruthless award: Patrick Cripps
Spirit of Carlton award: Ed Curnow
Women of Carlton player ambassador award: Kade Simpson
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/patrick-cripps-wins-carlton-best-and-fairest-20150917-gjp6vd.html#ixzz3m2sRYw39
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Nice to see some of the names in these awards. It is a pity that we appear to be losing Bell. He has made a significant improvement this year. Sure, his disposal is questionable, but he gets the ball and he works hard.
Congratulations to Patrick Cripps. This one our recruiters got right!
Don't be too concerned about Bell leaving, it is a Greg Denham story ;)
It is a good mix of players who were recognised last night, and a bit of a changing of the guard. I wonder how many will feature again next season.
They got worse. Yarran in particular after Barker dropped him for missing training.
Not possible to get worse. They wanted out and played accordingly all year.
Well done to Cripps.
But how bad is our club that a kid who has only played 23 games in his career wins our B&F?
Well done to Cripps.
But how bad is our club that a kid who has only played 23 games in his career wins our B&F?
Indeed. As much as I'm happy for Curnow et al to earn a place in the top 10, it is an indictment on our list when that happens.
Indeed. As much as I'm happy for Curnow et al to earn a place in the top 10, it is an indictment on our list when that happens.
Frankly, the fact that Carrazzo ended up on 16 games and retired in his final year and in our top 10 is a bigger concern.
Maybe the game plan wasnt the problem but rather how it was adhered to?
IN any case, lets just hope it gets better next year, although I have fears that it might be another tough year unless we get some growth pretty quickly.
Game plan was rubbish and the players stuck by it as much as it's creator stuck by them.
and Gibbs and Yarran not in the top 10.
Frankly, the fact that Carrazzo ended up on 16 games and retired in his final year and in our top 10 is a bigger concern.
Maybe the game plan wasnt the problem but rather how it was adhered to?
IN any case, lets just hope it gets better next year, although I have fears that it might be another tough year unless we get some growth pretty quickly.
That's certainly one valid way of looking at it. Alternately, you could say that Carrots is very underrated.
Good work by Cripps, bad luck for the skipper missing the last few games but those are the breaks.
I'm rapt to see Tuohy, Curnow and Bell do so well, three rookies that we plucked from nowhere and they finish top 5.
I hope Bell has silenced the doubters with that effort, he's vital to our future and so is Tuohy.
They both have lots of improvement still to come, but so does Cripps which is bordering on scary.
Make Cripps part of the leadership group with his job to be the voice of the 'Under 22's". Let him hone his leadership skills amongst his peers with the expectation that the captaincy will be his in about 2018.
Make Cripps part of the leadership group with his job to be the voice of the 'Under 22's". Let him hone his leadership skills amongst his peers with the expectation that the captaincy will be his in about 2018.
Sounds from various reports that he is already the voice of the team on the ground.
Perhaps we need to make some of the church mice leaders and force them to take some responsibility for their future!
Did the British Officer Class have the right idea when they lined up the Enlisted or Conscripted on the front line? They fought or they died!
Not possible to get worse. They wanted out and played accordingly all year.
Not the case with Yarran.
Sounds from various reports that he is already the voice of the team on the ground.
Perhaps we need to make some of the church mice leaders and force them to take some responsibility for their future!
Did the British Officer Class have the right idea when they lined up the Enlisted or Conscripted on the front line? They fought or they died!
Don't want to be too loud, you'll be shipped off for a 4th round pick soon enough.
Sounds from various reports that he is already the voice of the team on the ground.
Perhaps we need to make some of the church mice leaders and force them to take some responsibility for their future!
Did the British Officer Class have the right idea when they lined up the Enlisted or Conscripted on the front line? They fought or they died!
I would put gibbs and murph on the trade table
Quiet introverted leaders are only.allowed if they are physically hard players...
Congratulations to Cripps. A shining light in a thoroughly dismal year.
Many of the other top 10 show where we are at as a club, and it is easy to see the direct correlation between this list and our ladder position. Many of our players are just not up to standard, for reasons that fill the pages of this forum.
Hoping for improvement in 2016, and to building a team around the likes of our B&F winner. I hope we don't make him captain too soon. There is enough pressure on him.
I would put gibbs and murph on the trade table
Quiet introverted leaders are only.allowed if they are physically hard players...
Give me a break ::)
I would put gibbs and murph on the trade table
Quiet introverted leaders are only.allowed if they are physically hard players...
Ummm, no. That's a bridge too far. We'll take an extra year or two getting up the ladder doing things like that. Kids need experience around them to develop properly otherwise they're thrown to the wolves, taking the heat themselves as skinny, inexperienced kids. Might set them back rather than help them.
Just a question about the B&F count...
Was Mick Malthouse invited to the night?
Zach Tuohy, Carlton’s cheeky Irishman with the long leg, finished third in the Blues’ 2015 best and fairest count, polling 64 votes.
It was a close race for 'Big Nic', with only four points separating the top three place-getters: winner Patrick Cripps finished with 68 votes and runner-up Marc Murphy with 67.
Since joining Carlton in 2010 as an international rookie, it’s the highest Tuohy has polled in the John Nicholls Medal.
The defender was one of only four Blues to play every game this season, providing much-needed consistency and acting as a rock in Carlton’s defense.
After becoming a father for the first time last year, Tuohy praised his partner Bec for doing all the “heavy lifting” when it came to parenting duties during the season, allowing him to have a consistent year.
“Any good form I had this year I owe to her (Bec), she’s probably been the reason I’ve strung some quality games together,” he said.
The 25-year-old luckily didn’t forget to thank his parents, who have always supported him, even from the other side of the world.
“I owe everything to my parents. They are hard-working people and I doubt I’d be where I am if it weren’t for them.
“This is very much their accomplishment as it is mine.”
The hard-running defender was clearly humbled to accept the award in what has been a difficult year for the Club.
“Even through the bad times I consider myself very lucky I play for Carlton, I wouldn’t want to play for anyone else – I’m constantly honoured.
“I have made it my job and my mission to do whatever it takes to get this club back up to where it needs to be,” he said.
Since making his debut in Round 11, 2011, Tuohy has notched up 98 AFL games in the navy blue jumper. He says it’s going to be an “incredible honour” to have his name engraved on the No. 42 locker and join a Carlton great.
“Obviously Robert Walls is a legend of the Club so to have my name on the locker forever is a little bit surreal,” he said.
“It still doesn’t quite seem real, even though it’s only two games away, so hopefully I can keep my body right and my form good so I get those two games in the navy jumper.”
Need more of these types at the club.
Yeah.... Touhy's comments seemed genuine. Here's trusting BB :)) will harvest such commitment and use it to generate a team-wide desire to "do what it takes"
I would put gibbs and murph on the trade table
Quiet introverted leaders are only.allowed if they are physically hard players...
We're 5 quality midfielders short of a competitive team. This move would make us 7 short.
We're 5 quality midfielders short of a competitive team. This move would make us 7 short.
I want to rebuild from scratch
2 first rounders minimum here....
As the only person who got Touhy as a possible contender I am going to claim some knowledge about football until I make some prediction which actually demonstrates my complete lack of understanding and knowledge. All those who are advocating a scorched earth policy should recognize that if we had retained Kennedy, Waite, Gartlett, Betts, Jacobs, Robertson, Laidler and probably Maclean, and kept them with our core playing group of Murphy, Gibbs, Simpson, Kreuzer, Touhy, Buckley, Henderson, Yarran, Jamison, Walker, Docherty, Everett, Curnow, Bell, etc. we would have a team that would be challenging for the Cup this year. But because of impatience and poor decision making, we have added to our cutlery draw. I think we should be building from what we have got and trying to take the opportunities as they present themselves instead of constantly changing and throwing the baby out with the bath water. Keep Gibbs, Murphy and Kreuzer and stop eating our own.
As the only person who got Touhy as a possible contender I am going to claim some knowledge about football until I make some prediction which actually demonstrates my complete lack of understanding and knowledge. All those who are advocating a scorched earth policy should recognize that if we had retained Kennedy, Waite, Gartlett, Betts, Jacobs, Robertson, Laidler and probably Maclean, and kept them with our core playing group of Murphy, Gibbs, Simpson, Kreuzer, Touhy, Buckley, Henderson, Yarran, Jamison, Walker, Docherty, Everett, Curnow, Bell, etc. we would have a team that would be challenging for the Cup this year. But because of impatience and poor decision making, we have added to our cutlery draw. I think we should be building from what we have got and trying to take the opportunities as they present themselves instead of constantly changing and throwing the baby out with the bath water. Keep Gibbs, Murphy and Kreuzer and stop eating our own.
Here Here BM well written, although I concede it's probably too late to save quite a few!
As the only person who got Touhy as a possible contender I am going to claim some knowledge about football until I make some prediction which actually demonstrates my complete lack of understanding and knowledge. All those who are advocating a scorched earth policy should recognize that if we had retained Kennedy, Waite, Gartlett, Betts, Jacobs, Robertson, Laidler and probably Maclean, and kept them with our core playing group of Murphy, Gibbs, Simpson, Kreuzer, Touhy, Buckley, Henderson, Yarran, Jamison, Walker, Docherty, Everett, Curnow, Bell, etc. we would have a team that would be challenging for the Cup this year. But because of impatience and poor decision making, we have added to our cutlery draw. I think we should be building from what we have got and trying to take the opportunities as they present themselves instead of constantly changing and throwing the baby out with the bath water. Keep Gibbs, Murphy and Kreuzer and stop eating our own.
You're making far too much sense! Or perhaps you're just too naive ;)
"Impatience and poor decision making" seems to symbolise our club over the last decade or so :(
As the only person who got Touhy as a possible contender I am going to claim some knowledge about football until I make some prediction which actually demonstrates my complete lack of understanding and knowledge. All those who are advocating a scorched earth policy should recognize that if we had retained Kennedy, Waite, Gartlett, Betts, Jacobs, Robertson, Laidler and probably Maclean, and kept them with our core playing group of Murphy, Gibbs, Simpson, Kreuzer, Touhy, Buckley, Henderson, Yarran, Jamison, Walker, Docherty, Everett, Curnow, Bell, etc. we would have a team that would be challenging for the Cup this year. But because of impatience and poor decision making, we have added to our cutlery draw. I think we should be building from what we have got and trying to take the opportunities as they present themselves instead of constantly changing and throwing the baby out with the bath water. Keep Gibbs, Murphy and Kreuzer and stop eating our own.
True, and like it.
As the only person who got Touhy as a possible contender I am going to claim some knowledge about football until I make some prediction which actually demonstrates my complete lack of understanding and knowledge. All those who are advocating a scorched earth policy should recognize that if we had retained Kennedy, Waite, Gartlett, Betts, Jacobs, Robertson, Laidler and probably Maclean, and kept them with our core playing group of Murphy, Gibbs, Simpson, Kreuzer, Touhy, Buckley, Henderson, Yarran, Jamison, Walker, Docherty, Everett, Curnow, Bell, etc. we would have a team that would be challenging for the Cup this year. But because of impatience and poor decision making, we have added to our cutlery draw. I think we should be building from what we have got and trying to take the opportunities as they present themselves instead of constantly changing and throwing the baby out with the bath water. Keep Gibbs, Murphy and Kreuzer and stop eating our own.
Where is the "Like" button.....what a great post. Not to mention of course we are up to our third coach during this time as well, 4th if you include Bolton.
Tuohy's made the Coaches Association All-Australian team. :D
Tuohy's made the Coaches Association All-Australian team. :D
Wow, that should raise his confidence and self belief. ;)
As the only person who got Touhy as a possible contender I am going to claim some knowledge about football until I make some prediction which actually demonstrates my complete lack of understanding and knowledge. All those who are advocating a scorched earth policy should recognize that if we had retained Kennedy, Waite, Gartlett, Betts, Jacobs, Robertson, Laidler and probably Maclean, and kept them with our core playing group of Murphy, Gibbs, Simpson, Kreuzer, Touhy, Buckley, Henderson, Yarran, Jamison, Walker, Docherty, Everett, Curnow, Bell, etc. we would have a team that would be challenging for the Cup this year. But because of impatience and poor decision making, we have added to our cutlery draw. I think we should be building from what we have got and trying to take the opportunities as they present themselves instead of constantly changing and throwing the baby out with the bath water. Keep Gibbs, Murphy and Kreuzer and stop eating our own.
I definitely agree we'd be better off but...
I think we'd be in the 8 keeping pace with richmond maybe but pushing for the premiership... I don't think so. Team is still pretty short in the midfield and if we're close to the salary cap now how would we fit them in?
I definitely agree we'd be better off but...
I think we'd be in the 8 keeping pace with richmond maybe but pushing for the premiership... I don't think so. Team is still pretty short in the midfield and if we're close to the salary cap now how would we fit them in?
+1
We have a lot of work to do, and had we not recruited Judd as suggested by Kreuzer and Kennedy being part of our side, we might never have even done what we did and might resemble Melbourne more closely..
Tuohy's made the Coaches Association All-Australian team. :D
Wow!! Well done Zac, definitely something to build on for next year.