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Title: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on March 21, 2017, 08:55:04 pm
It will be nice to get back to 'normal' (what is 'normal'?)
Here will be the summary of the votes and whatnots.
At this early stage I have no idea who is going to stand out.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on March 30, 2017, 07:22:01 pm
Round 1: Carlton vs Richmond
I did go into the game with some hope, but....

Some notes:
[1] We had 24 people vote for this round. That compares well to most games last year. However, 30 people did vote in this game last year. Considering that so many people consider that we will be spooners, getting 24 voters is a good turnout. Hopefully we can get the voters for longer this season.
[2] We rated the game at 7.24, which is close enough to D+. Considering how we went, this rating shows that our voters are seeing the future. Hopefully we can see more of the future in the weeks to come.
[3] We had 12 players getting a vote, which is not the spread we tend to see when we win. We also had some of our more important players not making huge contributions. I won't go into that, enough has been mentioned on other threads. But we need some of 'name' players to stand up to be successful.
[4] On the other hand, it was very nice to see Murphy and Kreuzer stand up. Both have struggled with injury in recent times and both made a positive statement.

Votes:
Kreuzer, Matthew 311
Murphy, Marc 246
Marchbank, Caleb 147
Weitering, Jacob 115
Plowman, Lachlan 99
Gibbs, Bryce 39
Rowe, Sam 36
Simpson, Kade 35
Wright, Matthew 33
Silvagni, Jack 29
Docherty, Sam 12
Casboult, Levi 5
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on April 11, 2017, 11:04:15 am
Round 2: Carlton vs Melbourne
Disappointing, but there were positive signs. We didn't take our chances, but we improved significantly over the previous game.

Some notes:
[1] This year we had 17 voters, compared to 22 for the same game last year. I guess we should be happy: we lost a lot of voters late in the year and ordinary losses to not motivate people to see our games.
[2] This week we rated the game at 7.76; more or less a C- and an increase of 0.52 over last week.
[3] Again, we had 12 vote getters this week, which appears to be fairly typical when we lose.

This week's votes:
Cripps, Patrick 269
Wright, Matthew 233
Murphy, Marc 210
Plowman, Lachlan 176
Rowe, Sam 87
Docherty, Sam 64
Kreuzer, Matthew 48
Curnow, Edward 30
Marchbank, Caleb 18
Macreadie, Harrison 14
Thomas, Dale 9
Gibbs, Bryce 7

Matthew Wright had one of his best games, with 4 excellent goals. Murphy continues his renaissance with another 30+ possession game, while there was an improved output from Gibbs, Kreuzer and Curnow (Ed). But it was nicest to see Plowman, Marchbank and Macreadie in the votes.

Progressive Voting:
456 - Murphy, Marc (0)
359 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
276 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
270 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
267 - Wright, Matthew (0)
145 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
123 - Rowe, Sam (0)
115 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
77 - Docherty, Sam (0)
47 - Gibbs, Bryce (0)
35 - Simpson, Kade (0)
30 - Curnow, Edward (0)
29 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
14 - Macreadie, Harrison (0)
10 - Thomas, Dale (0)
5 - Casboult, Levi (0)

Murphy has gone out to an early lead with 456 votes, ahead of Kreuzer and a trio around 270 vote mark.

Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on April 17, 2017, 03:51:28 pm
A win over the Drug Cheats was one to celebrate. Especially considering the conditions and the youthful squad we had.
Very enjoyable, even in the rain. :)

Some Notes:
[1] We had 2 less people vote this year compared to last year. That was probably due to the weather, which kept the crowd down significantly. 22 people voted this time.
[2] We appreciated the win. The rating for this week was 9.24, easily the best this year. This represents approximately a B+.
[3] 14 different players got votes for this performance. Very strong result.
[4] Some of our higher ranked players stood up this week, especially Murphy, Kreuzer and Gibbs.

Votes:
Murphy, Marc 374
Kreuzer, Matthew 195
Gibbs, Bryce 193
Rowe, Sam 149
Plowman, Lachlan 137
Docherty, Sam 95
Curnow, Edward 67
Cripps, Patrick 63
White, Simon 61
Petrevski - Seton, Sam 32
Simpson, Kade 11
Marchbank, Caleb 8
Silvagni, Jack 8
Williamson, Tom 4

Progressive Votes:
830 - Murphy, Marc (0)
554 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
412 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
333 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
273 - Rowe, Sam (0)
267 - Wright, Matthew (0)
229 - Gibbs, Bryce (0)
171 - Docherty, Sam (0)
154 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
115 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
97 - Curnow, Edward (0)
61 - White, Simon (0)
46 - Simpson, Kade (0)
38 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
32 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
14 - Macreadie, Harrison (0)
10 - Thomas, Dale (0)
5 - Williamson, Tom (0)
5 - Casboult, Levi (0)

Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: flyboy77 on April 17, 2017, 06:54:30 pm
Daisy's tearing it up!
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on April 18, 2017, 01:09:54 pm
10 votes is better then nothing, especially given the state of Daisy's body. But he does need to provide more than leadership.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: flyboy77 on April 18, 2017, 04:57:44 pm
10 votes is better then nothing, especially given the state of Daisy's body. But he does need to provide more than leadership.

Crash, when Simon White out polls you by a factor of 6, surely it's time to walk.....
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on April 18, 2017, 07:38:38 pm
To be honest, I cannot see Daisy going on next season. There is a good chance he will become part of the coaching staff. He is well respected for his footy brain. But his body can no longer get him to do the things that made him so highly regarded.

On the other hand, Sam Rowe polling 273 votes so far suggests he will be around for a while yet. He was beaten on Saturday, but he had silver service from the GC mids.

That White has polled more votes than Simmo so far is also a point of interest.

But one of the things that really pleases me is the performance of Plowman. To be 3rd at this point is a great effort and suggests we did the right thing in recruiting him. Even if the others in his deal do not come off, he is an excellent pickup.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: flyboy77 on April 18, 2017, 09:48:49 pm
To be honest, I cannot see Daisy going on next season. There is a good chance he will become part of the coaching staff. He is well respected for his footy brain. But his body can no longer get him to do the things that made him so highly regarded.

On the other hand, Sam Rowe polling 273 votes so far suggests he will be around for a while yet. He was beaten on Saturday, but he had silver service from the GC mids.

That White has polled more votes than Simmo so far is also a point of interest.

But one of the things that really pleases me is the performance of Plowman. To be 3rd at this point is a great effort and suggests we did the right thing in recruiting him. Even if the others in his deal do not come off, he is an excellent pickup.

The Plow was taken at 3 in  his draft, first tall in that draft. He will be a gun just like Caleb M.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: Professer E on April 18, 2017, 10:07:02 pm
That draft year was regarded as really weak; Plowman was viewed as the best natural defender, although a bit small for a key position.  O'Rourke went at number one, and the caveats on him have proven to be correct - doesn't look like making it at Hawthorn either.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 18, 2017, 11:56:22 pm
To be honest, I cannot see Daisy going on next season. There is a good chance he will become part of the coaching staff. He is well respected for his footy brain. But his body can no longer get him to do the things that made him so highly regarded.

On the other hand, Sam Rowe polling 273 votes so far suggests he will be around for a while yet. He was beaten on Saturday, but he had silver service from the GC mids.

That White has polled more votes than Simmo so far is also a point of interest.

But one of the things that really pleases me is the performance of Plowman. To be 3rd at this point is a great effort and suggests we did the right thing in recruiting him. Even if the others in his deal do not come off, he is an excellent pickup.

Not sure Daisy will last the 2nd half of the season, no doubt he is trying but the body wont do the things the brain is telling it to do and I think both player and club
need to sit down and formulate a retirement deal now so he gets to go out in a dignified manner rather than be pushed/staggering over the line..
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: flyboy77 on April 19, 2017, 07:30:26 am
Simple reality is he shouldn't be picked on current form.....and agreed he does try hard!
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: Thryleon on April 19, 2017, 09:42:07 am
I wouldnt be so sure guys.

There are stats that mean a lot to teams that the average punter wont be privy to unless they go searching.

Dale Thomas is currently sitting 6th in our team for metres gained this season in our team.

A stat that is very important to getting the team going forward of centre.  The top 6 at the Blues:

1. Sam Docherty
2. Marc Murphy
3. Bryce Gibbs
4. Kade Simpson
5. Patrick Cripps
6. Dale Thomas

He is also sitting 9th in our team for score involvements.
13th for intercept posessions,
3rd for Marks taken (which indicates hes getting to where the ball is frequently as his contested stats are not very high).

The other thing that I can see is that his team mates seem to like him, and are trying to involve him as much as possible.

Now, Ive seen just by watching him for a few minutes at a time that he is a smart player who gets to where the ball is, and has a high workrate with lots of repeat efforts at putting defensive pressure on.  The only thing really letting him down is his ball use by foot and I would say based on his disposal efficiency (higher than a few in our team who most consider undroppable at the minute at an overall 66%, Bryce Gibbs is travelling at 59%) is that he is only letting us down at critical moments which is highlighting the poor disposal more than anything else.

He isn't what he once was, but I think we need to learn the lesson of Brock Mclean.  He too was a footballers footballer, who could get to where the ball was going even though his leg speed didnt show he was worth it, and on current form is still worth playing.  Its important that the MC who ask people to perform roles, seem to be happy enough with his work at the minute, but at the same time, it doesn't say anything about whether or not he will go on with it next season.

We will see how the rest of the year pans out, but there are positives he is providing our team which is all we can really hope for.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: flyboy77 on April 19, 2017, 03:32:41 pm
I call BS to that.

What of his multiple clangers that lead to cheap turnovers - and easy goals to the other side.

Metres gained means jack when the ball misses the target!
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: DJC on April 19, 2017, 05:17:05 pm
Is there a metres lost stat?
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: Thryleon on April 19, 2017, 05:40:46 pm
I call BS to that.

What of his multiple clangers that lead to cheap turnovers - and easy goals to the other side.

Metres gained means jack when the ball misses the target!

Im not sure they are counted if they are turned over but I see your point.

@DJC

 ;D
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on April 23, 2017, 05:18:38 pm
Round 4: Carlton vs Gold Coast
Not the greatest of result, but we really only failed in 1 quarter. Unfortunately their skill level and game style allowed them to get a lot of goals in the 30 minutes of disaster.

Notes:
[1] This game had the voters staying away in droves. There were 14 voters this year compared to 21 last year for this round. Last week we had 22 voters for a game where it poured.
I will not speculate as to why we had such a large voter drop-off, but it is not a good trend.
[2] The overall rating of 7.14 was much lower than last. This represents a rating of less than a D+. I gather the voters found our 3rd quarter unacceptable. We were the better team in the other 3 quarters.
[3] Out teens appeared to cope well with the game and made an impression, as did Pickett. But our inability to make the most of our forward entries was lethal.
[4] 13 players managed to get votes for this week. Murphy was the pick for our best player.

Votes:
Murphy, Marc 324
Docherty, Sam 268
Simpson, Kade 107
Casboult, Levi 87
Gibbs, Bryce 82
Silvagni, Jack 79
Marchbank, Caleb 36
Kreuzer, Matthew 28
Curnow, Edward 20
Fisher, Zac 18
Macreadie, Harrison 13
Williamson, Tom 8
Pickett, Jarrod 3

Progressive Voting:
1154 - Murphy, Marc (0)
582 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
439 - Docherty, Sam (0)
412 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
333 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
311 - Gibbs, Bryce (0)
273 - Rowe, Sam (0)
267 - Wright, Matthew (0)
190 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
153 - Simpson, Kade (0)
118 - Curnow, Edward (0)
117 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
115 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
92 - Casboult, Levi (0)
61 - White, Simon (0)
32 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
27 - Macreadie, Harrison (0)
18 - Fisher, Zac (0)
12 - Williamson, Tom (0)
10 - Thomas, Dale (0)
3 - Pickett, Jarrod (0)

Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on April 25, 2017, 02:45:22 pm
At this particular point, Murphy is well out in front, approximately double the number of votes of the 2nd ranked player (Kreuzer!) This season he has not had less than 25 possessions in any game and he had 3 games with well over 30.

Behind him at this point is a considerable pack:
There is basically one good game between Kreuzer in 2nd spot and Wright in 8th spot.

There are 21 vote getters to this point, which is better than this time last year easily. Of those, 9 are in either their 1st or 2nd year on our list.
Simmo has not performed to the standard he has over recent seasons as yet. However, he dos remain a consistent performer. However, in recent years he would already be the top 5. He is, at the moment, in 10th spot.
Rowe has continued his pretty good form in defence. He did well last year and retains his top 10 standing.
We also have a number of younger players featuring so far, not just making up the numbers. Most of the teens have managed to get a mention.
However, at this point we still appear to be out of favour with the scribes, as none of our young players have been mentioned as Rising Star nominees as yet. Plowman may have played too many games at this point, but Marchbank, Silvagni, Weitering, Petrevski-Seton and Charlie Curnow have not. There are some good young kids going around, but looking at the performances that have managed nominations both Silvagni and Marchbank have played at least well this year.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: Navy Maven on April 26, 2017, 03:46:23 pm
At this particular point, Murphy is well out in front, approximately double the number of votes of the 2nd ranked player (Kreuzer!) This season he has not had less than 25 possessions in any game and he had 3 games with well over 30.

Behind him at this point is a considerable pack:
There is basically one good game between Kreuzer in 2nd spot and Wright in 8th spot.

There are 21 vote getters to this point, which is better than this time last year easily. Of those, 9 are in either their 1st or 2nd year on our list.
Simmo has not performed to the standard he has over recent seasons as yet. However, he dos remain a consistent performer. However, in recent years he would already be the top 5. He is, at the moment, in 10th spot.
Rowe has continued his pretty good form in defence. He did well last year and retains his top 10 standing.
We also have a number of younger players featuring so far, not just making up the numbers. Most of the teens have managed to get a mention.
However, at this point we still appear to be out of favour with the scribes, as none of our young players have been mentioned as Rising Star nominees as yet. Plowman may have played too many games at this point, but Marchbank, Silvagni, Weitering, Petrevski-Seton and Charlie Curnow have not. There are some good young kids going around, but looking at the performances that have managed nominations both Silvagni and Marchbank have played at least well this year.

Weitering has played too many games to be in RS contention. Surprised the media hasn't mentioned Marchbank though. Must be in the top 10 of the club B+F at this point.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on May 01, 2017, 02:44:34 pm
Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

An ugly night with little to recommend it. Port flogged us after half time.

Some Notes:
[1] With our worst performance of the season was a relatively low voter turn out. We had 17 voters this week, compared to 23 this round last year. However, it was 3 more than last week.
To get the voters we need to be more competitive against the 'higher ranked' teams.
[2] With a ranking of 5.75, the performance was rated by the voters as our worst. Fair enough. It was a shocker. 5.75 is an E-, which pretty much says it all.
[3] 14 players did get a vote: something of a surprise considering how we played. We had very few winners on the night. Certainly guys like Gibbs and Murphy got mentions because they worked hard and got a lot of the ball. However, their direct opponents were among Port's best.
[4] It was very hard to find any green shoots. But Jack Silvagni and Charlie Curnow did their best to be noticed. Of course, when you are being pumped, it is hard to notice our players, so it seems. We still haven't managed a Rising Star Nomination yet.

Votes:
Cripps, Patrick 270
Casboult, Levi 147
Rowe, Sam 112
Curnow, Charles 103
Silvagni, Jack 64
Plowman, Lachlan 51
Gibbs, Bryce 39
Murphy, Marc 22
White, Simon 12
Williamson, Tom 12
Docherty, Sam 8
Fisher, Zac 8
Marchbank, Caleb 7
Petrevski - Seton, Sam 7

Crippa was rated our best by some margin.

Progressive Votes:
1176 - Murphy, Marc (0)
603 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
582 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
463 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
447 - Docherty, Sam (0)
384 - Rowe, Sam (0)
350 - Gibbs, Bryce (0)
267 - Wright, Matthew (0)
239 - Casboult, Levi (0)
196 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
181 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
153 - Simpson, Kade (0)
118 - Curnow, Edward (0)
115 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
104 - Curnow, Charles (0)
73 - White, Simon (0)
39 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
27 - Fisher, Zac (0)
27 - Macreadie, Harrison (0)
24 - Williamson, Tom (0)
10 - Thomas, Dale (0)
3 - Pickett, Jarrod (0)

Murphy still leads by a very large margin, but Cripps moves up into 2nd spot. This is even with him carrying niggles.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on May 07, 2017, 05:15:50 pm
Rd 6: Carlton vs Sydney: What  difference a week makes!

All of the scribes had Sydney winning this by some margin. Well, that was before we showed some real steel in putting Sydney in their place. :) It was very enjoyable to be there.

Notes:
[1] We had one more voter (26) than we did this time last year (25), and a LOT more participation that we did last week. And our efforts reflect this.
[2] 18 players got a mention this week, much up on last week. This reflects a real team performance.
[3] A rating of 9.24 was excellent. This equates to almost a B+.
[4] Murphy has got a mention in every game so far this season. He is averaging close to 30 possessions per game and about 6 tackles per game. It shows just how much we missed him last year when he was injured.
[5] Sam Rowe has been in our best in 4 of the 6 games to date. His only real fail was against GC.
[6] Murphy has had 2 BoGs, as has Cripps. Kreuzer has 1 and Docherty has 1.
[7] 23 players have got a mention in he votes to this point.

Votes:
Docherty, Sam 292
Simpson, Kade 249
Kreuzer, Matthew 201
Silvagni, Alex 188
Wright, Matthew 165
Casboult, Levi 89
Murphy, Marc 57
Cripps, Patrick 39
Curnow, Edward 32
Williamson, Tom 20
Gibbs, Bryce 18
Weitering, Jacob 14
Curnow, Charles 11
Rowe, Sam 4
White, Simon 4
Marchbank, Caleb 2
Petrevski - Seton, Sam 2
Fisher, Zac 2

Progressive Voting:
1233 - Murphy, Marc (0)
783 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
739 - Docherty, Sam (0)
642 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
463 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
432 - Wright, Matthew (0)
402 - Simpson, Kade (0)
388 - Rowe, Sam (0)
368 - Gibbs, Bryce (0)
328 - Casboult, Levi (0)
198 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
189 - Silvagni, Alex (0)
181 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
150 - Curnow, Edward (0)
129 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
114 - Curnow, Charles (0)
77 - White, Simon (0)
44 - Williamson, Tom (0)
41 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
29 - Fisher, Zac (0)
27 - Macreadie, Harrison (0)
10 - Thomas, Dale (0)
3 - Pickett, Jarrod (0)

Murphy still holds a considerable lead, with Kreuzer and Docherty vying closely for 2nd spot. Cripps is coming 4th at the moment, with a LOT of players in the 300s and 400s jostling behind him.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on May 08, 2017, 02:54:35 pm
Sorry I left this one only partially finished for so long. I'll do better.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on May 15, 2017, 06:48:21 pm
Rd 7: Carlton defeated Collingwood - almost the perfect weekend for the Blues

Notes:
[1] 21 voters this week, compared to 26 for the same time last year. Still 21, is good.
[2] 17 players got a vote, just 1 less than last week. Another strong team effort.
[3] A rating of 9.65 was even better than last week. That is just less than a A-.
[4] Murphy managed his 3rd BOG.

Votes:
Murphy, Marc 301
Kreuzer, Matthew 272
Petrevski - Seton, Sam 252
Curnow, Edward 171
Marchbank, Caleb 162
Simpson, Kade 99
Cripps, Patrick 33
Docherty, Sam 31
Casboult, Levi 26
Wright, Matthew 22
Thomas, Dale 20
Graham, Nick 20
Gibbs, Bryce 18
Rowe, Sam 7
Curnow, Charles 7
Plowman, Lachlan 4
Silvagni, Alex 2

Progressive Voting:
1534 - Murphy, Marc (0)
1055 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
770 - Docherty, Sam (0)
675 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
500 - Simpson, Kade (0)
467 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
454 - Wright, Matthew (0)
394 - Rowe, Sam (0)
385 - Gibbs, Bryce (0)
360 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
354 - Casboult, Levi (0)
321 - Curnow, Edward (0)
295 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
191 - Silvagni, Alex (0)
181 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
129 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
121 - Curnow, Charles (0)
77 - White, Simon (0)
44 - Williamson, Tom (0)
29 - Thomas, Dale (0)
29 - Fisher, Zac (0)
27 - Macreadie, Harrison (0)
20 - Graham, Nick (0)
3 - Pickett, Jarrod (0)

Murphy and Kreuzer have moved out in 1st and 2nd spots, but behind them things is a solid group of consistent vote getters.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: pinot on May 15, 2017, 07:17:55 pm
Top 10 looks good to me

Great to see Kreuzer having a good year and more to come I reckon.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: flyboy77 on May 15, 2017, 07:21:12 pm
Gibbs, a perennial underperformer....
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on May 31, 2017, 09:45:06 am
I keep apologizing for not being as up to date as I wish to be here. I guess I will stop some other day, when I am either punctual or finished.

Round 8: Carlton vs St Kilda and how much I wanted to be these clowns

Notes:
[1] Poor voter turnout this week: 13 voters only. Such is life until we win regularly. This time last year more than 20 people voted. Last week 21 people voted.
[2] The rating was not that bad for a loss: 8.33, which represents a C+. It also represents a HUGE improvement compared to last year, where St Kilda murdered us twice.
[3] 13 players got a mention this week, well down on the 18 of last week.

Votes:
Cripps, Patrick 350
Murphy, Marc 269
Docherty, Sam 247
Kreuzer, Matthew 194
Silvagni, Alex 67
Silvagni, Jack 39
Gibbs, Bryce 31
Marchbank, Caleb
Simpson, Kade 14
Rowe, Sam 11
Curnow, Edward 6
Curnow, Charles 6
Thomas, Dale 6

Progressives:
1803 - Murphy, Marc (0)
1250 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
1025 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1017 - Docherty, Sam (0)
512 - Simpson, Kade (0)
467 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
454 - Wright, Matthew (0)
416 - Gibbs, Bryce (0)
405 - Rowe, Sam (0)
374 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
354 - Casboult, Levi (0)
326 - Curnow, Edward (0)
295 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
258 - Silvagni, Alex (0)
220 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
129 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
126 - Curnow, Charles (0)
77 - White, Simon (0)
44 - Williamson, Tom (0)
35 - Thomas, Dale (0)
29 - Fisher, Zac (0)
27 - Macreadie, Harrison (0)
20 - Graham, Nick (0)

Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on June 03, 2017, 06:07:31 pm
Rd 9: Carlton vs Fremantle in Perth
1st quarter was excellent. 2nd quarter was adequate. After half time was not worth worrying bout. Pity I didn't see anything of the game. Apparently Murphy and Williamson kicked ripper goals.

[Notes:
[1]   The rating, 7.57, suggests that we were not bad, but not quite as good as we require. This represents half way between a D+ and a C-.
[2]   With the game in Perth and not on free to air TV not as many people saw the game, so not as many people could vote. There were 17 voters this round, compared to 18 for the same round last year. It would have been nice if we could see it.
[3]   It appears that another of our youngsters put his hand up. Williamson managed his best polling game so far.
[4]   11 players managed to get a mention this week, down from last week’s 13. That suggests that we had fewer players do as well as we required.
Hopefully we can do better after the Bye, although it is likely that more youngsters will get a taste soon.

Voting:
Murphy, Marc 232
Docherty, Sam 227
Kreuzer, Matthew 156
Curnow, Edward 147
Gibbs, Bryce 120
Silvagni, Alex 93
Cripps, Patrick 67
Williamson, Tom 58
Casboult, Levi 27
Marchbank, Caleb 4
Fisher, Zac 4

This represents the 5th time that Murphy has been our highest vote getter this year, from 9 rounds. That is impressive.
Gibbs has been a contributor in each game this year, getting a mention but not polling top 2 yet.
Alex Silvagni has managed votes in every game he has played at senior level since his promotion.
Cripps has managed to get the most votes from us on 3 separate occasions this season.
Docherty has only missed the top 10 twice this season.
Caleb Marchbank has been in the top ten 6 times so far: not bad for a kid n his 1st year with us.
Simmo is slowing down. He hasn't managed a BOG yet this year, but he still continues to be n the top 10 regularly.

Progressive Voting:
2035 - Murphy, Marc (0)
1406 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
1244 - Docherty, Sam (0)
1092 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
536 - Gibbs, Bryce (0)
512 - Simpson, Kade (0)
473 - Curnow, Edward (0)
467 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
454 - Wright, Matthew (0)
405 - Rowe, Sam (0)
381 - Casboult, Levi (0)
379 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
351 - Silvagni, Alex (0)
295 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
220 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
129 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
126 - Curnow, Charles (0)
102 - Williamson, Tom (0)
77 - White, Simon (0)
35 - Thomas, Dale (0)
33 - Fisher, Zac (0)
27 - Macreadie, Harrison (0)
20 - Graham, Nick (0)
3 - Pickett, Jarrod (0)

Murphy has skipped out t a solid 600 vote lead from Kreuzer, who is 200 votes in front of 3rd place Docherty with Cripps another 200 behind him.
After them is a very solid group of players, lead by Gibbs and Simpson. Alex Silvagni has worked his way into this group in a short period of time.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on June 07, 2017, 11:08:01 am
Rd 10: Carlton vs North Melbourne: another one we could have won with a bit more poise.

Notes:
[1] With this game in Melbourne, there were a lot more people voting. There were 21 people voting, up from 17 last week. This is the same number of voters who voted for our big win in the corresponding game last year.
[2] The rating was 7.92, more or less a C.
[3] 13 players managed to attract a vote this week. This compares to the 11 from the previous week.

Votes:
Gibbs, Bryce 332
Kreuzer, Matthew 331
Docherty, Sam 155
Cripps, Patrick 75
Curnow, Edward 70
Simpson, Kade 64
Curnow, Charles 62
Silvagni, Alex 47
Cuningham, David 30
Murphy, Marc 13
Plowman, Lachlan 11
Marchbank, Caleb 6
Wright, Matthew 2

[1] It was very close at the top, with Gibbs earning BOG honours by a single vote from Kreuzer.
[2] This was Gibbs' 1st BOG for the year, although he has been a consistent vote getter.
[3] Murphy had a relatively down day, attracting only 13 votes. Plowman and Marchbank also had similar numbers of votes.
[4] Cuningham and Charlie Curnow attracted considerably more votes this week. This was Cuningham's best result so far, while Charlie Curnow managed his 2nd best tally.

Progressive Results:
2048 - Murphy, Marc (0)
1726 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
1398 - Docherty, Sam (0)
1168 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
868 - Gibbs, Bryce (0)
576 - Simpson, Kade (0)
543 - Curnow, Edward (0)
479 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
456 - Wright, Matthew (0)
405 - Rowe, Sam (0)
398 - Silvagni, Alex (0)
384 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
381 - Casboult, Levi (0)
295 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
220 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
189 - Curnow, Charles (0)
129 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
102 - Williamson, Tom (0)
77 - White, Simon (0)
35 - Thomas, Dale (0)
33 - Fisher, Zac (0)
31 - Cuningham, David (0)
27 - Macreadie, Harrison (0)
20 - Graham, Nick (0)
3 - Pickett, Jarrod (0)

Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: LP on June 07, 2017, 01:03:22 pm
Thank-you Crash.

I suppose it's no accident that as we get deep in the season the kids are fading in the top-end votes.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on June 08, 2017, 08:52:23 am
It will be interesting to see how the youngsters handle the next few weeks. Will the bye have a positive effect? Will the (potentially) heavy grounds grind them down somewhat? Will they handle the pressure?

Excellent questions that the next few weeks will answer (I hope).
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on June 18, 2017, 09:07:48 pm
Rd 12: Carlton vs GWS
What a win! The 2nd bottom team defeats the top team. Doesn't happen often, so I will enjoy it!

Notes:
[1] The rating, 9.78, is the largest we've had since we were in the finals. This represents a comfortable A-. We may be 18 months into the biggest rebuild in our history, but the players are already showing what it is to beat good teams.
[2] We had 17 vote getters this round. 17! That sort of performance all over the field is very encouraging.
[3] 23 people voted for this game. That is as many as for the corresponding game last year and among the best for the year. If we produce the effort, we may get more people voting.
[4] Looking at our youngsters, there were some solid performances, but the highlight is probably Liam Jones, who played his best ever game for Carlton. Like Alex Silvagni a few weeks back, Jones was not expected to be ABLE to produce like this. His recruiting was roundly criticized (not the least by me). Well, the guy might look similar, but he played totally differently and deserved every vote he got.

Votes:
Kreuzer, Matthew 404
Docherty, Sam 364
Jones, Liam 185
Gibbs, Bryce 128
Murphy, Marc 117
Plowman, Lachlan 60
Cuningham, David 49
Marchbank, Caleb 43
Thomas, Dale 23
Simpson, Kade 19
Wright, Matthew 19
Curnow, Edward 15
Cripps, Patrick 13
Weitering, Jacob 11
Silvagni, Jack 9
Casboult, Levi 6
Curnow, Charles 4

Kreuzer and Docherty really gathered some votes here.

Progressives:
2165 - Murphy, Marc (0)
2130 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
1762 - Docherty, Sam (0)
1180 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
995 - Gibbs, Bryce (0)
595 - Simpson, Kade (0)
558 - Curnow, Edward (0)
538 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
475 - Wright, Matthew (0)
427 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
405 - Rowe, Sam (0)
398 - Silvagni, Alex (0)
387 - Casboult, Levi (0)
295 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
228 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
193 - Curnow, Charles (0)
186 - Jones, Liam (0)
140 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
102 - Williamson, Tom (0)
80 - Cuningham, David (0)
77 - White, Simon (0)
58 - Thomas, Dale (0)
33 - Fisher, Zac (0)
27 - Macreadie, Harrison (0)
20 - Graham, Nick (0)
3 - Pickett, Jarrod (0)

Kreuzer has just about caught Murphy at the top and they have cleared out ahead of Docherty. Cripps is 600 votes behind in 4th place. Then comes Gibbs, followed a considerable pack.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on June 29, 2017, 01:44:15 pm
Round 13: Carlton vs. Gold Coast
An excellent win.

Notes:
[1] Another very strong result, with a rating of 9.46. This is better than a B+, but not quite an A- and an excellent way to follow up after the GWS game.
[2] There were 18 voters this week, one more than this time last year.
Again, than you all for taking the time to vote. Without, there would be no award.
[3] This week Bryce Gibbs dominated the voting as nobody has since Judd was at his best. A career defining game with over 40 possessions, 2 goals and heaps more.
[4] Blaine Boekhorst got his 1st votes for the year.

Votes:
Gibbs, Bryce 528
Docherty, Sam 221
Jones, Liam 126
Kreuzer, Matthew 113
Simpson, Kade 110
Curnow, Edward 105
Murphy, Marc 68
Silvagni, Jack 50
Thomas, Dale 47
Cripps, Patrick 29
Plowman, Lachlan 11
Curnow, Charles 5
Casboult, Levi 3b]
Boekhorst, Blaine 3


Progressives:
2243 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
2233 - Murphy, Marc (0)
1983 - Docherty, Sam (0)
1524 - Gibbs, Bryce (0)
1209 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
705 - Simpson, Kade (0)
663 - Curnow, Edward (0)
549 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
475 - Wright, Matthew (0)
427 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
405 - Rowe, Sam (0)
398 - Silvagni, Alex (0)
390 - Casboult, Levi (0)
312 - Jones, Liam (0)
295 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
278 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
198 - Curnow, Charles (0)
140 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
106 - Thomas, Dale (0)
102 - Williamson, Tom (0)
80 - Cuningham, David (0)
77 - White, Simon (0)
33 - Fisher, Zac (0)
27 - Macreadie, Harrison (0)
20 - Graham, Nick (0)
3 - Boekhorst, Blaine (0)
3 - Pickett, Jarrod (0)

Kreuzer has taken over from Murphy as the leader, but the slim margin of 20 votes. And Docherty is now close in 3rd spot, only 300 behind. It could get pretty close by year's end.

Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on July 03, 2017, 11:53:43 am
Rd 14: Carlton vs Richmond
Our worst game in many weeks, even though we kept it tight. A pity, considering I don't rate Richmond that highly, but that is another take.

Notes:
[1] We had a distinct drop in the number of voters this week. In recent weeks we've covered 20 easily. This round we struggled to get 17.
[2] Our rating this week was 6.58, much down on the 9's we've been giving lately. 6.58 represents something close to a D-.
[3] 12 players managed votes this weeks, but only a few managed more than  couple of votes.

Votes:
Kreuzer, Matthew 267
Cripps, Patrick 263
Docherty, Sam 167
Gibbs, Bryce 77
Curnow, Charles 77
Jones, Liam 61
Casboult, Levi 48
Murphy, Marc 9
Simpson, Kade 9
Weitering, Jacob 4
Thomas, Dale 2
Graham, Nick 2

Progressives:
2511 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
2242 - Murphy, Marc (0)
2150 - Docherty, Sam (0)
1600 - Gibbs, Bryce (0)
1472 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
714 - Simpson, Kade (0)
663 - Curnow, Edward (0)
549 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
475 - Wright, Matthew (0)
438 - Casboult, Levi (0)
427 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
405 - Rowe, Sam (0)
398 - Silvagni, Alex (0)
373 - Jones, Liam (0)
295 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
278 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
275 - Curnow, Charles (0)
144 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
108 - Thomas, Dale (0)
102 - Williamson, Tom (0)
80 - Cuningham, David (0)
77 - White, Simon (0)
33 - Fisher, Zac (0)
27 - Macreadie, Harrison (0)
22 - Graham, Nick (0)
3 - Boekhorst, Blaine (0)
3 - Pickett, Jarrod (0)

Kreuzer extended his lead at the top from Marc Murphy, with Docherty moving closer to Murphy as well. Then a big gap to the pack, lead by 4th place getter Gibbs and 5th place holder Cripps.

Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on July 13, 2017, 02:26:10 pm
Round 15: Carlton vs Adelaide
So near, and yet so far. The story of our season.

[1]   The rating for this game was 8.3, which corresponds to a C+. Considering that we lost, that is a good rating.
[2]    There were 16 voters this week, one up from this time last year, but down on our regular number by around 4.
[3]   13 players got a mention this week, which is pretty impressive. Kerridge made a favourable impression in his 1st game for some time, while Jones continued his good form.

Votes:
Gibbs, Bryce 294
Jones, Liam 268
Curnow, Charles 161
Cripps, Patrick 138
Kreuzer, Matthew 132
Docherty, Sam 96
Kerridge, Sam 78
Murphy, Marc 57
Weitering, Jacob 8
Plowman, Lachlan 5
Marchbank, Caleb 5
Simpson, Kade 3
White, Simon 3

Progressive Voting:
2643 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
2299 - Murphy, Marc (0)
2246 - Docherty, Sam (0)
1894 - Gibbs, Bryce (0)
1610 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
717 - Simpson, Kade (0)
663 - Curnow, Edward (0)
641 - Jones, Liam (0)
554 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
475 - Wright, Matthew (0)
438 - Casboult, Levi (0)
436 - Curnow, Charles (0)
432 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
405 - Rowe, Sam (0)
398 - Silvagni, Alex (0)
295 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
278 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
152 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
108 - Thomas, Dale (0)
102 - Williamson, Tom (0)
80 - Cuningham, David (0)
79 - White, Simon (0)
78 - Kerridge, Sam (0)
33 - Fisher, Zac (0)
27 - Macreadie, Harrison (0)
22 - Graham, Nick (0)
3 - Boekhorst, Blaine (0)
3 - Pickett, Jarrod (0)
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on July 22, 2017, 05:34:33 pm
Rd 17: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
It was very disappointing to lose again.

[1] This week attracted only 14 voters, 4 less than this time last year. Thank you to everyone who voted.
[2] The rating this week was 7.26, which represents a D+, more or less.
[3] 15 players got a mention this week, which is better than expected for a loss.

Votes:
Kreuzer, Matthew 231
Gibbs, Bryce 228
Docherty, Sam 148
Wright, Matthew 101
Jones, Liam 91
Kerridge, Sam 91
Curnow, Charles 60
Murphy, Marc 44
Plowman, Lachlan 36
Graham, Nick 34
Simpson, Kade 13
Fisher, Zac 5
Silvagni, Alex 3
Weitering, Jacob 3
Lamb, Jed 3

Kreuzer came out on top by 2 votes in a very close week,

Progressive Voting:
3147 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
2545 - Docherty, Sam (0)
2538 - Murphy, Marc (0)
2185 - Gibbs, Bryce (0)
1615 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
815 - Simpson, Kade (0)
755 - Jones, Liam (0)
689 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
663 - Curnow, Edward (0)
657 - Curnow, Charles (0)
576 - Wright, Matthew (0)
532 - Casboult, Levi (0)
432 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
405 - Rowe, Sam (0)
401 - Silvagni, Alex (0)
303 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
302 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
229 - Kerridge, Sam (0)
155 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
116 - Thomas, Dale (0)
102 - Williamson, Tom (0)
80 - Cuningham, David (0)
79 - White, Simon (0)
56 - Graham, Nick (0)
38 - Fisher, Zac (0)
27 - Macreadie, Harrison (0)
3 - Lamb, Jed (0)
3 - Boekhorst, Blaine (0)
3 - Pickett, Jarrod (0)

Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on August 03, 2017, 01:08:41 pm
RD 18: Carlton vs Brisbane
What a disaster!
[1] Only 11 people voted this week, 5 less than last year's game. t is one of the lowest turnouts for the year. But it was in Brisbane and NOT on free to air TV.
I didn't vote: I didn't even see any highlights, let alone a significant portion of the game.
[2] Our rating, 6.82, was also very poor and represented some less than a D.
[3] There were 13 players deemed worthy enough to get a mention. That is actually quite good, but probably represents the 2nd half better than the first.

Votes:
Kreuzer, Matthew 267
Curnow, Charles 229
Wright, Matthew 99
Docherty, Sam 93
Petrevski - Seton, Sam 93
Jones, Liam 87
Murphy, Marc 74
McKay, Harrison 25
Fisher, Zac 19
Kerridge, Sam 12
Graham, Nick 12
Simpson, Kade 6
Williamson, Tom 6

Progressive Voting:
3414 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
2638 - Docherty, Sam (0)
2613 - Murphy, Marc (0)
2185 - Gibbs, Bryce (0)
1615 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
886 - Curnow, Charles (0)
842 - Jones, Liam (0)
822 - Simpson, Kade (0)
689 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
675 - Wright, Matthew (0)
663 - Curnow, Edward (0)
532 - Casboult, Levi (0)
432 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
405 - Rowe, Sam (0)
401 - Silvagni, Alex (0)
396 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
302 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
241 - Kerridge, Sam (0)
155 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
116 - Thomas, Dale (0)
108 - Williamson, Tom (0)
80 - Cuningham, David (0)
79 - White, Simon (0)
69 - Graham, Nick (0)
57 - Fisher, Zac (0)
27 - Macreadie, Harrison (0)
25 - McKay, Harrison (0)
3 - Lamb, Jed (0)
3 - Boekhorst, Blaine (0)
3 - Pickett, Jarrod (0)

Matthew Kreuzer is a comfortable 700+ votes ahead of the pack, with Docherty and Murphy only a few votes apart in 2nd and 3rd places.
Gibbs is a distinct 4th and Cripps is a distinct 5th. The rest follow considerably behind.
 
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on August 06, 2017, 04:12:48 pm
Rd 19: Carlton vs Geelong

This was one of our worst performances for 2017; its only peers being the game against Port Adelaide and the 2 games against Richmond. The rating of 5.88 being the 2nd worst of the season. This represents a rating of E-. :(
We had 17 voters this week - a considerable improvement over last week.

Votes:
Casboult, Levi 246
Curnow, Charles 196
Petrevski - Seton, Sam 121
Murphy, Marc 83
Docherty, Sam 78
Kerridge, Sam 42
Jones, Liam 38
Gibbs, Bryce 21
McKay, Harrison 19
Fisher, Zac 14
Kreuzer, Matthew 10
Silvagni, Jack 10
Lamb, Jed 3
Simpson, Kade 2

Casboult was a comfortable winner this round. He had significant performance.
Charlie Curnow was rated 2nd, followed by SPS.
Gibbs and Simpson got mentions, but not to their form earlier this season. Same goes for Kreuzer.

Progressive Voting:
3424 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
2715 - Docherty, Sam (0)
2696 - Murphy, Marc (0)
2206 - Gibbs, Bryce (0)
1615 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1082 - Curnow, Charles (0)
880 - Jones, Liam (0)
823 - Simpson, Kade (0)
777 - Casboult, Levi (0)
689 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
675 - Wright, Matthew (0)
663 - Curnow, Edward (0)
517 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
432 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
405 - Rowe, Sam (0)
401 - Silvagni, Alex (0)
312 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
283 - Kerridge, Sam (0)
155 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
116 - Thomas, Dale (0)
108 - Williamson, Tom (0)
80 - Cuningham, David (0)
79 - White, Simon (0)
71 - Fisher, Zac (0)
69 - Graham, Nick (0)
44 - McKay, Harrison (0)
27 - Macreadie, Harrison (0)
7 - Lamb, Jed (0)
3 - Boekhorst, Blaine (0)
3 - Pickett, Jarrod (0)

Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on August 17, 2017, 01:21:35 pm
Rd 20: Carlton vs Essendon
A typical game this season: just not being able to do it in the end.  We had our chances, but we couldn't make them count.

[1] The rating this week was much higher (8.17, which is between a C and  C+) and that does give a fair indication of what we produced.
[2] 15 different layers managed a mention this week. That does show just how all round this performance was.
[3] We did not have a large voting group this week. 14 people voted. Thank you to all who did. This was one better than the corresponding game last year.

Votes:

Kreuzer, Matthew 248
Jones, Liam 222
Murphy, Marc 193
Petrevski - Seton, Sam 128
Wright, Matthew 125
Docherty, Sam 102
Gibbs, Bryce 82
Thomas, Dale 50
Plowman, Lachlan 35
Casboult, Levi 12
Kerridge, Sam 12
Silvagni, Jack 6
Pickett, Jarrod 6
Curnow, Charles 3
Simpson, Kade 3

Progressives:
3672 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
2888 - Murphy, Marc (0)
2817 - Docherty, Sam (0)
2287 - Gibbs, Bryce (0)
1615 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1101 - Jones, Liam (0)
1085 - Curnow, Charles (0)
826 - Simpson, Kade (0)
801 - Wright, Matthew (0)
789 - Casboult, Levi (0)
724 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
663 - Curnow, Edward (0)
645 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
432 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
405 - Rowe, Sam (0)
401 - Silvagni, Alex (0)
318 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
295 - Kerridge, Sam (0)
165 - Thomas, Dale (0)
155 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
108 - Williamson, Tom (0)
80 - Cuningham, David (0)
79 - White, Simon (0)
71 - Fisher, Zac (0)
69 - Graham, Nick (0)
44 - McKay, Harrison (0)
27 - Macreadie, Harrison (0)
9 - Pickett, Jarrod (0)
7 - Lamb, Jed (0)
3 - Boekhorst, Blaine (0)

Kreuzer probably has it won at this point. A 600+ vote lead with only a few rounds to go suggests he'll win. 2nd and 3rd, however, are very lose indeed. Murphy or Docherty will be 2nd and third, but the order is far from set.
Gibbs and Cripps look pretty safe, but the only certainty is that we will be there.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on September 11, 2017, 03:43:02 pm
Rd 21: Carlton vs West Coast in Perth
Another one that got away, probably due to our inability to kick goals with the wind.

[1] The votes were few and far between this week. Only 9 people voted. This is 6 less than last year for the same round. I guess there simply were not enough of us able to see the game, let alone appreciate it enough to vote.
[2] The rating, at 8.15, was quite good. We did show more than a little. This represents just over a C, which is not bad for a loss.
[3] 12 different players got a mention. This has been a trend this year, and one I like.

Votes:
Murphy, Marc 299
Curnow, Charles 199
Kerridge, Sam 172
Gibbs, Bryce 145
Kreuzer, Matthew 127
Petrevski - Seton, Sam 91
Weitering, Jacob 72
Plowman, Lachlan 45
Jones, Liam 36
Pickett, Jarrod 18
Simpson, Kade 9
Thomas, Dale 9

Progressive Votes:
3799 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
3187 - Murphy, Marc (0)
2817 - Docherty, Sam (0)
2432 - Gibbs, Bryce (0)
1615 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1284 - Curnow, Charles (0)
1138 - Jones, Liam (0)
835 - Simpson, Kade (0)
801 - Wright, Matthew (0)
789 - Casboult, Levi (0)
770 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
736 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
663 - Curnow, Edward (0)
467 - Kerridge, Sam (0)
432 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
405 - Rowe, Sam (0)
401 - Silvagni, Alex (0)
318 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
227 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
174 - Thomas, Dale (0)
108 - Williamson, Tom (0)
80 - Cuningham, David (0)
79 - White, Simon (0)
71 - Fisher, Zac (0)
69 - Graham, Nick (0)
44 - McKay, Harrison (0)
27 - Pickett, Jarrod (0)
27 - Macreadie, Harrison (0)
7 - Lamb, Jed (0)
3 - Boekhorst, Blaine (0)

Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: Tragic on September 12, 2017, 07:26:26 am
6th for young Charles.  Look out...
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on September 12, 2017, 09:44:17 am
6th for young Charles.  Look out...
Indeed. I hope to finish the rest today. I've been busy.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on September 12, 2017, 02:55:06 pm
Rd 22: Carlton vs Hawthorn - the Penultimate Round and the Ultimate Result!
It was lovely to win.

[1] 16 players got votes in one of our most team-orientated performances. Very few players did not deserve a mention.
[2] Voter turnout was still low, even for a significant win in Melbourne. There were 13 voter, 3 less than the corresponding game last year and almost half of what we had at the beginning of the season.
[3] The rating of 9.74 represented a B+. This is the 2nd highest rating for 2017.

Votes:
Murphy, Marc 315
Docherty, Sam 270
Jones, Liam 215
Kreuzer, Matthew 161
Lamb, Jed 90
Pickett, Jarrod 86
Curnow, Charles 71
Boekhorst, Blaine 45
Plowman, Lachlan 41
Weitering, Jacob 41
Kerridge, Sam 37
Gibbs, Bryce 30
Simpson, Kade 19
Fisher, Zac 19
Thomas, Dale 15
Byrne, Ciaran 4

This was Murphy's 6th BOG this season.
Kreuzer has 7 BOG's.
Cripps and Gibbs have 3 each. Gibbs was in the top 10 16 times this season.

Progressives:
3960 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
3502 - Murphy, Marc (0)
3087 - Docherty, Sam (0)
2462 - Gibbs, Bryce (0)
1615 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1355 - Jones, Liam (0)
1355 - Curnow, Charles (0)
854 - Simpson, Kade (0)
811 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
801 - Wright, Matthew (0)
789 - Casboult, Levi (0)
736 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
663 - Curnow, Edward (0)
504 - Kerridge, Sam (0)
432 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
405 - Rowe, Sam (0)
401 - Silvagni, Alex (0)
318 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
268 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
189 - Thomas, Dale (0)
113 - Pickett, Jarrod (0)
108 - Williamson, Tom (0)
96 - Lamb, Jed (0)
89 - Fisher, Zac (0)
80 - Cuningham, David (0)
79 - White, Simon (0)
69 - Graham, Nick (0)
48 - Boekhorst, Blaine (0)
44 - McKay, Harrison (0)
27 - Macreadie, Harrison (0)
4 - Byrne, Ciaran (0)

It looks fairly settled at the top, but Murphy does have some chance of coming from behind.

Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on September 12, 2017, 04:13:50 pm
Rd 23: Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney: What an awful way to finish a season, 2.8 quarters of real effort followed by going through the motions for a quarter and a bit. Seriously ugly.

[1] There were few voter this week, only 13 again. This is 4 less than for the disaster against the Drug Cheats last year.
[2] Last week there were a LOT of players who deserved a vote. Not so this week.
[3] The rating barely worth an E.

Votes:
Kreuzer, Matthew 331
Weitering, Jacob 172
Murphy, Marc 132
Simpson, Kade 119
Curnow, Charles 66
Boekhorst, Blaine 40
Williamson, Tom 13
Docherty, Sam 7
Pickett, Jarrod 7
Graham, Nick 7



Final Votes:
4291 - Kreuzer, Matthew (332)
3634 - Murphy, Marc (133)
3094 - Docherty, Sam (7)
2462 - Gibbs, Bryce (0)
1615 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1421 - Curnow, Charles (67)
1355 - Jones, Liam (0)
973 - Simpson, Kade (120)
811 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
801 - Wright, Matthew (0)
789 - Casboult, Levi (0)
736 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
663 - Curnow, Edward (0)
504 - Kerridge, Sam (0)
441 - Weitering, Jacob (173)
432 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
405 - Rowe, Sam (0)
401 - Silvagni, Alex (0)
318 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
189 - Thomas, Dale (0)
121 - Williamson, Tom (14)
120 - Pickett, Jarrod (7)
96 - Lamb, Jed (0)
89 - Fisher, Zac (0)
88 - Boekhorst, Blaine (40)
80 - Cuningham, David (0)
79 - White, Simon (0)
75 - Graham, Nick (7)
44 - McKay, Harrison (0)
27 - Macreadie, Harrison (0)
4 - Byrne, Ciaran (0)

This means that Matthew Kreuzer is the worthy winner of the 2017 Jim Park Award! He won by 660 votes over 2nd place getter, Marc Murphy.
Analysis of voting and other pleasantries will follow soon.

In the mean time, all hail the winner, Matthew Kreuzer! He had a truly impressive 2017!
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: PaulP on September 12, 2017, 04:56:08 pm
Thanks for all your great work on this crash. Much appreciated.

And yes, a worthy winner for sure. Would not be surprised if Krooz also wins the club B+F.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: DJC on September 12, 2017, 05:50:17 pm
Thanks for all your great work on this crash. Much appreciated.

And yes, a worthy winner for sure. Would not be surprised if Krooz also wins the club B+F.

X2

Well done Crash - although I suspect that Murphy will win the John Nicholls Medal.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: Lods on September 12, 2017, 05:57:16 pm
Excellent effort Crash

If someone had told you at the start of the season that Liam Jones would finish 7th in this voting after playing only half a season you probably would have said to yourself
"Beauty, it sounds like we've solved that forward problem ;)"

...or you would have told them to ..."Wake up to yourself, and don't spread bullcrap!"
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: PaulP on September 12, 2017, 06:20:02 pm
Excellent effort Crash

If someone had told you at the start of the season that Liam Jones would finish 7th in this voting after playing only half a season you probably would have said to yourself
"Beauty, it sounds like we've solved that forward problem ;)"

...or you would have told them to ..."Wake up to yourself, and don't spread bullcrap!"

Yes, you're right Lods. Great effort by Giant Slayer Jones.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on September 12, 2017, 07:29:47 pm
Excellent effort Crash

If someone had told you at the start of the season that Liam Jones would finish 7th in this voting after playing only half a season you probably would have said to yourself
"Beauty, it sounds like we've solved that forward problem ;)"

...or you would have told them to ..."Wake up to yourself, and don't spread bullcrap!"
I'd have been questioning my sanity, to be honest. I thought he was cooked. He's had the desire, but it never quite worked out as a forward. Down back he is excellent. He also got good votes in the Liston Trophy, so the VFL umps recognized his excellence.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: crashlander on September 12, 2017, 08:01:44 pm
Looking at the voting for the Jim Park:
[1] Matthew Kreuzer: the big lad managed to garner 8 BOG's from us, the voters. He was in the top 10 another 12 times, meaning that in only 2 games did he not have a significant effect on the game. That is a great effort for a guy who hasn't been close before.
Winning by 660 votes is basically 2 top games. Well done, Matthew Kreuzer!

[2] Marc Murphy: this has been Murphy's most consistent season. He had 6 BOG's, and was in the top 10 pace getters every single game. Now some of that has been when we were pretty ordinary, but that sort of consistency must serve him well when the John Nicholls is run.

[3] Sam Docherty managed only 1 BOG, but was in the top 10 a total of 19 times. That also shows the consistency that we have been looking for. Docherty remains one of our most important players. As it looks like he is gong to move into the midfield in the future, he will continue to produce huge amount of drive.

[4] Bryce Gibbs got 3 BOG's this year, but he was not as consistent as Docherty, Murphy or Kreuzer. Even so, he was very professional and was in the top 10 16 times.

[5] Patrick Cripps was 5th even missing a significant part of the season. He also managed 3 BOG's. Now, if he can only manage to survive for a whole season, he will challenge again for top spot.

[6] The first of the kids to really make an impact was Charlie Curnow. In the first half of the season he was in the top 10 only twice. In the 2nd half of the season he missed out only twice. He didn't get a BOG, but his development was excellent. Looking to big things from him in 2018 and beyond.

[7] Liam Jones: the 2nd of the real highlights. He played in the VFL for the 1st third of the season (where he managed to get the umpire's attention) before producing some of the most impressive defending we've seen for a long time. He was a real revelation. Only once from his rise to the seniors did he miss out on a top 10 effort.

[8] Alex Silvagni: he only managed a couple of games due to injury, but he made himself into a cult figure. There was only 1 completed game that he did not get a top 10 result. Had he played more, our already miserly defence would have been even better.

[9] Elder statesmen Ed Curnow and Simmo continued to show their worth. Ed's season was cut short by injury, but both he and Simmo were consistent performers. Neither got a BOG, but they were both regular top 10 performers. Simmo did not reach the heights that he has over the last couple of years, but he is still a major contributor in our defence.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: LoveNavy on September 12, 2017, 09:40:25 pm
X2

Well done Crash - although I suspect that Murphy will win the John Nicholls Medal.

My sentiments precisely. Thanks for your enormous effort Crash.
Congratulations to our very own Tractor.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: flyboy77 on September 12, 2017, 11:08:37 pm
And yet Murphy regularly fails to influence the course of a game.....very sadly.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: dodge on September 12, 2017, 11:15:17 pm
It's amazing the time and effort you're willing to put in when you enjoy doing something - well done, Crash, I enjoy your weekly summaries.

It is interesting that the top 5 have all bar one BOG for the season.  It is also interesting that two players that cause a bit of angst on this site - Murphy and Gibbs polled consistently well.  We must have got some recruiting right considering Murph, Kreuz and Gibbs were top draft picks and those who voted on this site had them all in our top 4.

Depending which side of the fence you sit on, you call this a success, or it points to the absolute failure if Murph and Gibbs are top 4.  Personally, I think it is a success and not their fault that they have been at the club that has been so poor at player development (IIRC Gibbs was put into the leadership in his debut season - crazy)
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: flyboy77 on September 13, 2017, 06:37:19 am
Yep, massive kudos to you Crashlander, a supreme effort~!
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: madbluboy on September 13, 2017, 07:32:27 am
Be interesting how many BOGs we get on Brownlow night.
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: Lods on September 13, 2017, 08:31:50 am
Be interesting how many BOGs we get on Brownlow night.

Not many!..."We're a 'champion team' (well...we're on the way to being one ;) :D) not a 'team of champions'..."

Our good performances this season have usually depended on all-round team performances and combination rather than depending on a Martin/Franklin performance by an individual.

But players like that are usually the difference between a 6 win year and a 15 win year....so we should probably get one....or make one out of material we already have (CC)  ;);D
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: maxm68 on September 25, 2017, 08:40:40 am
Good work Crash

I voted 54321 on every game except r21 West Coast and r23 Sydney and came up with...

Murphy 43
Docherty 42
Kreuzer 36
Gibbs 30
Simmo and Cripps 26



I was pretty close to what the club came up with :D
Title: Re: 2017 Jim Park Medal Analysis:
Post by: DJC on September 25, 2017, 07:02:31 pm
Good work Crash

I voted 54321 on every game except r21 West Coast and r23 Sydney and came up with...

Murphy 43
Docherty 42
Kreuzer 36
Gibbs 30
Simmo and Cripps 26

Nice work; you're on the same page as our coaches!  You may wish to keep it quiet though; the anti-Murphy, anti-Gibbs brigade will be accusing you of everything from improper dealings to bias  ;)



I was pretty close to what the club came up with :D