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Re: Goaltracker 2018

Reply #105 –
Quote from: Thryleon on
Thats a false positive (the bold one).

He's top 4 for goal kicking because we are so poor at kicking goals as a team and it can be argued that Mckay wouldnt be in anyone elses top 4 goal kickers at another club.

If he was sitting top 4 for goals kicked, and the top two had kicked 100 between them, then this might be a positive.

On the other side he is on 2 goals per game. I'll certainly take that.

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Reply #106 –
I reckon our blokes must be tired as I think they travelled to Russia to play in the World Cup too. I say that as the Socceroos are like Carlton. Can take it up to the best in general play but can't kicked any bloody goals when on top.

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Reply #107 –
Quote from: DJC on
One of our top four goalkickers can’t get a game!

Have many of his goals come from KPP marking or bullocking type play?

Did McKay's goals come at the expense of some other small forward?
The Force Awakens!

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Reply #108 –
Quote from: LP on
Have many of his goals come from KPP marking or bullocking type play?

Did McKay's goals come at the expense of some other small forward?
Probably more than you think. Ok contested marking in the VFL.

Don't care right now anyway, as long as he is kicking them. Rest will come.

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Reply #110 –
Quote from: Thryleon on
Thats a false positive (the bold one).

He's top 4 for goal kicking because we are so poor at kicking goals as a team and it can be argued that Mckay wouldnt be in anyone elses top 4 goal kickers at another club.

If he was sitting top 4 for goals kicked, and the top two had kicked 100 between them, then this might be a positive.

That’s true Thry but the positive is that averaging two goals a game isn’t enough to secure a spot in the 22 unless it’s combined with consistency of effort and meeting team standards.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

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Reply #111 –
Harry didn't meet the team standard's because his were too high?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #113 –
Quote from: madbluboy on


 :-\
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: Goaltracker 2018

Reply #114 –
After 14 games

2016

Goals 148 Behinds 132-(For 1020 Against 1259)
Percentage 81.0 %

2017(Target 224-224-1568)

Goals 149 Behinds 123-( For 1017  Against 1239 )
Percentage 82.1 %


2018
(2017 Target 232 Goals- 202 behinds-1594)

Goals-127  Behinds - 125  (For- 887 , Against- 1395)
Percentage  63.6 %


Goalkickers
(2017 Target Casboult  34)

2017

Casboult 22 
Wright 18
Gibbs 13
Silvagni 12

2018

Curnow 23
M Wright 14
McKay 12
Casboult 12

Up another point in percentage.
Curnow’s edged ahead of Casboult’s goal tally at the same stage last year.

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Reply #115 –
Lods, I'm not sure how you collect the stats, but if available it would be interesting to see the goal contribution from the midfielder compared to previous years. I'm pegging it's dropped substantially and would be a major reason for the 2018 goal deficit.
The Force Awakens!

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Reply #116 –
The bleating seems to have died down a little, but it was that the game isn't as attractive and generally lower scoring this year.

We are 22 goals down after 14 games - that is 1.5 goals a game - probably not significant. Our defence is also 11 points a game worse - making our overall margin about 20 points worse than last year per game.

We know the defensive issues with injuries.  Watching our games, it also feels as if it is much harder to score a goal.  It actually surprises me that we are that close with points scored against last year.

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Reply #117 –
Quote from: LP on
Lods, I'm not sure how you collect the stats, but if available it would be interesting to see the goal contribution from the midfielder compared to previous years. I'm pegging it's dropped substantially and would be a major reason for the 2018 goal deficit.

I get them from footywire which only list the top 4-5 for each club.

I'm not sure our midfield have dropped off as individuals (Cripps already has as many goals as he kicked all last year).... but where we have lost a lot of goals is the area of ....

2017 (2018)....even with some games to go they wont hit those totals
Casboult 34 (12)
Silvagni 19 (4)
Gibbs 17 (0 for us)
Kreuzer  12 (5)
Murphy 11 (3)

Gibbs gone and the other 4 all injured for extended periods ....or playing VFL for a few games has severely affected our already poor goal stocks


Re: Goaltracker 2018

Reply #118 –
I appreciate Cripps has his 0.5 goal a game, but it's fairly stark though, Gibbs, Kreuzer and Murphy mean our midfield is down 32 goals on 2018.

Kreuzer has been out yet is on his average, Casboult has been out and rucking but is on his average.

Diasy is down but he's not spent as much time forward, the rest are about average with a couple of part-timers down in the decimal places.

The bulk of the deficit is mostly down to a loss of one good midfielder, Bryce Gibbs! So the naysayers better take note, yet many still claim good riddance! :o
The Force Awakens!

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Reply #119 –
After 15 games

2016

Goals 155 Behinds 137-(For-1067  Against 1366)
Percentage 78.1%

2017(Target 224-224-1568)

Goals 161 Behinds 133-(For-1099  Against 1329 )
Percentage 82.7 %

2018
(2017 Target 232 Goals- 202 behinds-1594)

Goals-134  Behinds - 138  (For- 942 , Against- 1515)
Percentage  62.2 %


Goalkickers
(2017 Target Casboult  34)

2017

Casboult 23
Wright 20
Silvagni 15
Gibbs 13

2018

Curnow 26
M Wright 14
McKay 12
Casboult 12


...and the minimal gains in percentage over the last few weeks disappear in a flash.
The other one that's starting to bolt away is the "points against"