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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: madbluboy on
If he staged then he should be suspended. I would like the AFL to come out and say it was a free kick or he staged.
Watched it a few times on video and there appears to be high contact of sorts but ZW also appears to have exaggerated the force of the contact and the umpires ignored it due to the extra mayo he applied.
It probably should have been a free but you cant expect to get those all the time either and he should have played through the contact and not let Geelong(Henry) have a zero contest situation.
The umpires were terrible overall imo and let play go especially holding the ball/man situations and you just have to be able to read the game and how its being umpired and know that it was unlikely they would make that call as high contact imho and not gamble they might.
Saying all that I have just read Henry has been charged with striking Zac Williams which I presume was the same incident so the MRO has deemed the contact severe enough and should have been a free kick to our man ....more to play out in this saga and you were justified in calling for the AFL to adjudicate on the decision.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
Williams is not a defender per se', we all know that and Chris Scott exploited it to perfection. Unfortunately, his team mates (in defence) let him down by lack of support. Zac is a creative run and carry HB with good disposal skills, yesterday he was taken to places he just didn't want to go to. He and his team mates will review it and learn. The key to a premiership is a solid, consistant back 6 or 7, whilst we are treading water at the minute, we aren't are premiership threat right now due to the disruption of the defensive unit. Once we get them back and they can regain their cohesion and consistency, then will we see if we are contenders or not.
You cant be on 800k a year and turn the ball over and contest like he did vs good teams like Geelong. As was pointed out by "Pinot"his efforts or lack of led to 3-4 goals being scored by Geelong and the attacking value he gives isnt worth his lack of defensive prowess. His disposal is way overrated imho and I wouldnt have him in my best 22 and he is very fortunate we are down on troops with injury and he doesnt have much competition for his spot.
Stengle at 175cm/73kg outbodied Zac 183cm/84kg in the goal square for an easy mark and goal which was just garbage defense from our man imo...its very hard to hold your place in the backline as an attacking only player and your skillset and decision making has to be at the Nick Daicos level to get away with it and Zac is nowhere near that high bar.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: Adelaideblue on
Yes, can't help but agree totally.  Where was the Carlton player whose job was to wear Cameron (Geelong's most dangerous forward) like a skin?  At least Binnsie tried to man up, but hardly his role.
Feel for our coaches watching on such inept defensive work

Ab

No doubt Voss was disppointed with the whole defensive effort, but that one would have been particularly 'triggering' just prior to the after match presser.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by Adelaideblue -
Quote from: IvanAwfulbigone on
Yep. My TV barely survived that one.

Further to that, doesn’t matter which player of ours it was, why the hell were they 3 metres away? For god’s sake, if anyone should have a player’s hand placed on their chest by way of tracking their position in space and time, it’s Cameron - especially when the game’s on the line in the last few minutes.

Yes, can't help but agree totally.  Where was the Carlton player whose job was to wear Cameron (Geelong's most dangerous forward) like a skin?  At least Binnsie tried to man up, but hardly his role.
Feel for our coaches watching on such inept defensive work

Ab
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by LP -
Quote from: Lods on
And both would be well within the best 22 at the moment.
Would you drop Pittonet or Tom to add 'one of'  Cincotta, Binns, Durdin, Owies, Carroll, Cowan, either Hollands etc etc.
Agreed, they are automatics at the moment, Midfield and Ruck is not our problem.

If anything yesterday perhaps we got it wrong with Charlie and BigH, should have got up the ground a bit more and made themselves an annoyance for Cameron? Most rucks can't go with Cameron, so you either need a big mobile KPD or you have to find ways to make him accountable, if Cameron charges off up the ground to become the loose man in defence, make his opponent a focus.

Sounds easy.