This is the late game this round, Sunday at 16:40 in Perth.
We're not on the box, and probably still ruckless. Lightning rarely strikes twice, even with the effort from Silvagni and Young.
We live and die on how jackson and Darcy play in this one. If we lose weitering it gets harder.
What a game this one is turning out to be.
If our midfield keep up their form and get back one ruck we will be a threat.
We live and die on how jackson and Darcy play in this one. If we lose weitering it gets harder.
Very much doubt we'll lose Weiters... fine only... two open-handed forearms to the chest/shoulder of opponents. The second incident had plenty of mayo, BBQ sauce, sweat chili sauce and over-acting with throwing the head back (from the Dawks player).
Very much doubt we'll lose Weiters... fine only... two open-handed forearms to the chest/shoulder of opponents. The second incident had plenty of mayo, BBQ sauce, sweat chili sauce and over-acting with throwing the head back (from the Dawks player).
Surely its an 'innocent until proven guilty' with Weiters.
I am yet to see any other angle apart from a blurry one from over 100m away which doesn't show anything.
Walsh got decked after he disposed of the ball and was down for a while but have heard nothing of it.
Surely its an 'innocent until proven guilty' with Weiters.
I am yet to see any other angle apart from a blurry one from over 100m away which doesn't show anything.
Doesn't that work against him to some extent though, because the umpire who was right there deemed it worthy of a report.
I have no faith in the system.
Doesn't that work against him to some extent though, because the umpire who was right there deemed it worthy of a report.
I have no faith in the system.
He said she said.
If the umpires word is all they've got to go on, i don't think thats enough.
What happens if they report him and then there is late evidence that showed there is nothing in it at all. AFL, and that umpire (our favourite - #22 Nathan Williamson?) become a laughing stock.
In the Hawks post match, Voss said both De Koning and Pittonet are a chance to be available for this game, but he seemed a little equivocal. One or preferably both will be essential IMO. Jack Silvagni was good this week, but I don't believe that level of output is sustainable. Freo are a little hit and miss, but certainly a step up from the Hawks. I'd expect the betting odds to be pretty close. A very 50/50 game for mine.
He said she said.
If the umpires word is all they've got to go on, i don't think thats enough.
What happens if they report him and then there is late evidence that showed there is nothing in it at all. AFL, and that umpire (our favourite - #22 Nathan Williamson?) become a laughing stock.
The whole MRO-Report system has become a bit of a joke.
Either throw it back to the umpire and get rid of the MRO...or umpires don't report and if there's no vision, no incident.
It really doesn't matter what we think.
If the best evidence at the time is that it was reportable incident in the umpire's eyes, and there is no clearer vision available what position does that put the AFL in.
Do they back the umpire's call, and suspend or fine, or do they say ..."oh well we really don't have a clearer picture of what happened so you're probably mistaken umpire."
The whole MRO-Report system has become a bit of a joke.
Either throw it back to the umpire and get rid of the MRO...or umpires don't report and if there's no vision, no incident.
It really doesn't matter what we think.
If the best evidence at the time is that it was reportable incident in the umpire's eyes, and there is no clearer vision available what position does that put the AFL in.
Do they back the umpire's call, and suspend or fine, or do they say ..."oh well we really don't have a clearer picture of what happened so you're probably mistaken umpire."
I think they give a fine (or even a suspended fine) and basically a smack on the wrist. Could fall under the 'unduly rough play' which is a catch all for things they don't like. Akin to 'bringing the game into disrepute', which is similar and catches non-football related issues as well.
Jack Silvagni was good this week, but I don't believe that level of output is sustainable. Freo are a little hit and miss, but certainly a step up from the Hawks.
Was getting great elevation in centre ruck contests - maybe the bye put some spring in his step.
IF he can keep doing that, he becomes a genuine option as a back-up ruck.
An excellent game in other respects as well.
Was getting great elevation in centre ruck contests - maybe the bye put some spring in his step. IF he can keep doing that, he becomes a genuine option as a back-up ruck.
An excellent game in other respects as well.
Yes. The bye is recent enough for him to still be fresh. But Darcy and Jackson are a whole other level, and close to the best ruck combination going around, and if neither De Koning nor Pittonet play, Silvagni will be spent by half time IMO. Darcy in particular will crash and bash with glee.
In the Hawks post match, Voss said both De Koning and Pittonet are a chance to be available for this game, but he seemed a little equivocal. One or preferably both will be essential IMO. Jack Silvagni was good this week, but I don't believe that level of output is sustainable. Freo are a little hit and miss, but certainly a step up from the Hawks. I'd expect the betting odds to be pretty close. A very 50/50 game for mine.
Agree. This is a step up from the last 2 soft wins and will tell us a lot more about where we are at.
Hope we don’t go back to defensive wide gameplan and we attack the game and have the courage to run the lines and move the ball quick. Do that and we should be ok.
Hope one of our rucks gets up as they are very strong in that area
Also it’s about this stage after we start thinking they are looking good that we hear a soft tissue injury to cunners or Martin.
Just saying.
The form of most players during the past two matches should justify a limited number of changes this week.
Other than Young, Ed Curnow and (maybe) Hewett, I doubt that any deserve to be omitted for sub-standard performances.
The form of most players during the past two matches should justify a limited number of changes this week.
Other than Young, Ed Curnow and (maybe) Hewett, I doubt that any deserve to be omitted for sub-standard performances.
Agree.
I'd only make the 1 change and thats Pitto/TDK (whoever is deemed fit) for Young.
If Weiters gets suspended though, Young would get a reprieve.
I can't see us bringing in Dow, so Ed and George get to stay, but i'd swap roles with Ed starting sub.
Someone has to miss out if both Pitto and TDK are available.
Freo's small forwards usually stitch us up....eg Schultz has been a real pain over the last few seasons and they need attention.
Id like Newman on Walters but if my memory serves me right Saad has been loose on Schultz getting caught on the rebound and he either needs to curb his attacking ways or we find a more suitable lock down player, maybe Boyd can accept that challenge and make me warm to him...
Dont expect to win the ruck, in fact we will probably get flogged in the hitouts but its about our mids winning the clearances and influencing the result and for me its probably more the damage Darcy and Jackson might inflict when they rest forward than their ruckwork. Freo are workman like down back and have some decent defenders so it this wont be an easy game, really dont like Longmuir and his sulky demeanor and its about time we beat Freo at home....50/50 game for me and I'm hoping for a win rather than being overly confident.
Someone has to miss out if both Pitto and TDK are available.
Also Cottrell comes back, doesn't he? Logic dictates Ed HAS TO COME OUT.
Young under the pump and JSOS as always
Someone has to miss out if both Pitto and TDK are available.
Yep. One of them, whichever one isn't fit enough.....because neither will be actually 100% fit.
Freo's small forwards usually stitch us up....eg Schultz has been a real pain over the last few seasons and they need attention.
Id like Newman on Walters but if my memory serves me right Saad has been loose on Schultz getting caught on the rebound and he either needs to curb his attacking ways or we find a more suitable lock down player, maybe Boyd can accept that challenge and make me warm to him...
Dont expect to win the ruck, in fact we will probably get flogged in the hitouts but its about our mids winning the clearances and influencing the result and for me its probably more the damage Darcy and Jackson might inflict when they rest forward than their ruckwork. Freo are workman like down back and have some decent defenders so it this wont be an easy game, really dont like Longmuir and his sulky demeanor and its about time we beat Freo at home....50/50 game for me and I'm hoping for a win rather than being overly confident.
Smashed 61 to 27 v the hawks and we won by 10 goals. Coll and PA played for weeks without a ruck. Rucks are overrated.
Freo's small forwards usually stitch us up....eg Schultz has been a real pain over the last few seasons and they need attention.
Id like Newman on Walters but if my memory serves me right Saad has been loose on Schultz getting caught on the rebound and he either needs to curb his attacking ways or we find a more suitable lock down player, maybe Boyd can accept that challenge and make me warm to him...
If we hit our targets going forward there will be no turnover to be exposed on… we’ve gotta run, gotta hit up.
Some talk over here that Jackson might miss....and Fyfe ruled out already.
Agree with EB, their small forwards are dangerous and with a bit of pace.....Frederick, Switkowski and then Walters and Schultz. And Liam Henry on the wing...his last couple of weeks have been really good. Wouldn't surprise me to see Ed hold his spot and get another run-with role.
Long range weather forecast isn't great...not sure who benefits outta that.
Don’t think playing both TDK and Pitto is the way to go. I would prefer us to put in TDK only if both are available.
TDK did well against Witts in his last game and we should wing it with JSOS who was fantastic last week. If neither are available Young stays in.
Watched the replay last night. There is still a lot of room for improvement but the intent was good. I think Hawthorn has the basis for a reasonable side they are reasonably well drilled so I was not surprised by their third quarter effort and they defeated Brisbane a couple of weeks ago. I was happy with the effort for the four quarters. Cottrell in for Ed Curnow, and depending if TDK or Pittonett is available, I would move Silvagni to the Subs bench as I think he could be a real impact player for us. I believe he was knocked about before he was dropped to the VFL but I am not sure there is a spot for him in the current forward structure. I am not sure there is a spot for Dow in the midfield at the moment with Cripps, Cerra, Walsh, Kennedy, Docherty, Acres and Cottrell, with Cuningham and Fogerty running through there as well, but he is definitely ahead of Hewitt and others. The defence is really gelling well but I am concerned by the lack of a 200cm defender. Young played very well on the weekend and is back in touch again but I am not sure where he would fit in. If we play with the same intent as we have over the past two matches we should be too good for Fremantle but it is all about our attitude.
I can't remember when Carlton has improved in the second half of a season. To me we seem poised to make a big charge but history would suggest otherwise. We do have depth in our squad which makes me hopeful but cautious.
Last weekend Darcy massacred English and Lobb, all Lobb's inside info did not help the Dog's ruck division, but Jackson was playing injured and that helped the Bulldogs quite a lot!
So Darcy versus English / Lobb equals win to Darcy, how do our rucks rate versus English and Lobb?
Don't be sucked in by the stats last time we played Freo with TDK solo, Darcy was carrying / managing an injury through most of 2022 and wasn't fit.
I'd be very reticent to go into this game with just one ruck and a clutch of D-Grade backups, it's the sort of scenario Darcy loves, easy kills!
Silvagni would be very unlucky to miss out if both TDK and Pittonet are available. And if only one ruckman plays, then Young probably gets squeezed out and he wasn't too bad last week either. Only query would be whether we need Young's height down back given Dockers will have Amiss, Treacy and Jackson in the forward line. Kemp is probably one that could go with Amiss as he's more a fast leading and mark type of forward than a big bodied contested marking player.
Cottrell in for Ed is probably the obvious one....which means Hewett might get squeezed out.
Sounds like Motlop played well in the VFL but the Owies/Cunningham/Fogarty/Martin forward set up has worked...with both Cunningham and Fogarty going through the middle a bit last week and Cripps and Kennedy starting forward at times.
Only query would be whether we need Young's height down back given Dockers will have Amiss, Treacy and Jackson in the forward line.
@WASurfer Over here we are hearing that Jackson is likely join Fyfe as an out, could be a smokescreen, any inside info floating around WA?
Historically Lobb was our main KPP problem, and the Freo smalls, they tend to run us into the ground and they have also done some mighty jobs tagging Cripps, but Cripps has also been able to have an impact pushing forward.
LP.....Dockers have said Jackson has been playing "sore" for a couple of weeks and this has prevented him from rucking....some hip issue that's stopped him from jumping. They might still play him purely as a forward and ruck with Darcy and Treacy which is pretty much what they did last week against the Dogs.
Jackson would be a difficult match up but one that might go to Weitering or even McGovern if we choose not to play Young as a defender. I'd punt on McGovern.
Jackson would be a difficult match up but one that might go to Weitering or even McGovern if we choose not to play Young as a defender. I'd punt on McGovern.
Agreed.
Personally, I think McGovern is probably the better match up even if Jackson wasn't playing sore, and having Kemp there in form to also intercept further bridges the divide.
I think Young might be stiff if either Pitto or TDK get up, he battled in the ruck but did OK when we dropped him into D50, however I have to keep in mind how woeful the Dawks were when using the footy, I think they set a 2023 low for efficiency!
LP.....Dockers have said Jackson has been playing "sore" for a couple of weeks and this has prevented him from rucking....some hip issue that's stopped him from jumping. They might still play him purely as a forward and ruck with Darcy and Treacy which is pretty much what they did last week against the Dogs.
Jackson would be a difficult match up but one that might go to Weitering or even McGovern if we choose not to play Young as a defender. I'd punt on McGovern.
Reckon Young has to play, we can look small down back without him sometimes and his ruck work isn't that great he would be missed in that area either.
McGovern is too small for Jackson and Darcy imho..
Kemp will probably get Amiss who is a young leading forward, nice kick for goal and needs to be respected.
Treacy is a bit of a dud and whoever gets him might be able to give us some drive.
Brodie will probably come in to tag Cripps and I reckon Brayshaw will get Cerra which could be a match decider contest..
Reckon Young has to play, we can look small down back without him sometimes and his ruck work isn't that great he would be missed in that area either.
McGovern is too small for Jackson and Darcy imho..
Kemp will probably get Amiss who is a young leading forward, nice kick for goal and needs to be respected.
Treacy is a bit of a dud and whoever gets him might be able to give us some drive.
Brodie will probably come in to tag Cripps and I reckon Brayshaw will get Cerra which could be a match decider contest..
Pretty spot on EB, I reckon this will be a tough one, my only hope is that we do ok travelling west. Might even need some Newnes type heroics after the siren.
Reckon Young has to play, we can look small down back without him sometimes and his ruck work isn't that great he would be missed in that area either.
McGovern is too small for Jackson and Darcy imho..
Kemp will probably get Amiss who is a young leading forward, nice kick for goal and needs to be respected.
Treacy is a bit of a dud and whoever gets him might be able to give us some drive.
Brodie will probably come in to tag Cripps and I reckon Brayshaw will get Cerra which could be a match decider contest..
The only reason we should play Young in the ruck is if Jack is picked as our other ruck.
If one of Pitto or TDK are playing, use Jack. Young efforts last week were embarrassing.
Use him down back if you need him, but keep him out of the ruck....he doesn't have the intensity for it.
Brodie will probably come in to tag Cripps and I reckon Brayshaw will get Cerra which could be a match decider contest..
Serong has been in good form too.
What I have particularly liked about our last 2 games is that were we the hunters, and had a 'hunting the opposition' mind-set.
For a long time we've been way to reactionary, conservative and even worried about being hunted - hence losing our way under opposition (and our own above the shoulders) pressure and not being able to sustain our way, then resorting to relying on individual talent - a recipe for failure.
IF we build even further and commit even more to being the hunters (through the roof tackle nos. etc.), then I have absolutely no doubt we will account for the Dickers... and further strengthen our 'hunters' mind-set.
Young's a concern at the moment.
He's not a ruckman, he's not physical enough.
He is a key defender, but as a key backman the physicality is also an issue and....
the defence looks better when he's not there.
I'm not sure how he turns that around....but we've given him another three years to find out.
Young's a concern at the moment.
He's not a ruckman, he's not physical enough.
He is a key defender, but as a key backman the physicality is also an issue and....
the defence looks better when he's not there.
I'm not sure how he turns that around....but we've given him another three years to find out.
Like SoJ, Young's fate depends on the MC, if they use him the right way and select him on a horses for courses basis he can share in some success.
If on the other hand they try to use him as a fix-all, for the very reasons you have outline he's cooked before he starts!
Young's a concern at the moment.
He's not a ruckman, he's not physical enough.
He is a key defender, but as a key backman the physicality is also an issue and....
the defence looks better when he's not there.
I'm not sure how he turns that around....but we've given him another three years to find out.
He was dynamite last year, I thought he was more than upgrade on Jones in defence. His only weakness seemed to be being outbodied by the monsters. His intercept stuff was very good. He is a shawdow of his former self.
Young played his best footy when weitering wasn't there.
Perhaps the issue is to do with responsibilities.
It's interesting that the Dogs had Young playing down back and in the ruck but were KP defensively poor for a while and he couldn't hold down a Key defensive post hence they chased Jones.
They gave him away for nothing and we are probably starting to see why.
We need a more robust key defender and there is an obvious choice out there but I'm not paying what other Clubs will be offering as he is still a work in progress player...
Ben McKay EB? I agree....for a bloke that's played about 70 odd games across about 7 and a half years, talks of $700K+ is a lot of coin.
Still lots of talk over here about Barass but if you believe what's being written, Sydney are at the front of the queue. But no chance they'll be able to get him and TDK. Barass would be a first round pick for sure and TDK won't be cheap either.
In: T.De Koning, M.Cottrell, L.Cowan
Out: Nil
R16 sub: George Hewett
Young played his best footy when weitering wasn't there.
Perhaps the issue is to do with responsibilities.
Jones was more versatile than Young, which allowed Weitering to swap with him more readily and both were decent interceptors.
With Young, Weitering was more frequently anchored at FB and became a less attacking defender.
Ben McKay EB? I agree....for a bloke that's played about 70 odd games across about 7 and a half years, talks of $700K+ is a lot of coin.
Still lots of talk over here about Barass but if you believe what's being written, Sydney are at the front of the queue. But no chance they'll be able to get him and TDK. Barass would be a first round pick for sure and TDK won't be cheap either.
Surfie...not sold on Ben McKay, reckon he might end up at Essendon.
For the right money I'd look at him but I can see other clubs offering more.
Swans have done the work on Barass and I'd expect him to be a Swan next season.
Surfie...not sold on Ben McKay, reckon he might end up at Essendon.
For the right money I'd look at him but I can see other clubs offering more.
Swans have done the work on Barass and I'd expect him to be a Swan next season.
If Fisher and Gov leave there is enough capital to get Big Ben to the club.
If Fisher and Gov leave there is enough capital to get Big Ben to the club.
McGovern wants to stay and there is zero interest in him from other clubs.
B.McKay isn't worth big dollars imho,his form at Nth has been ordinary apart from a game or two of late.
MacG has to give something to get something IMO. I want a lot of things too, my employer doesn't pay me to do 5/8ths of F all.
I think Ben could become a great defender but he is always injured. We can't afford that risk with Marchbank, McGovern, Williams, Cunningham and Martin.
According to Mitch Cleary, Tom de Koning trained lightly and left the track early. Looks like it will be the Lewis and Jack show.
why we want Ben McKay for another tall SLOW defender , we need to find quick closing defender with size
According to Mitch Cleary, Tom de Koning trained lightly and left the track early. Looks like it will be the Lewis and Jack show.
If he's a bit sore and banged up, could be just extra light duties and putting him in cotton wool until Sunday.
If he's a bit sore and banged up, could be just extra light duties and putting him in cotton wool until Sunday.
I'm sure I heard a Voss media grab that stated Pitto and TDK will both be managing knee injuries for the remainder of the season.
Unfortunately, such is life for rucks.
I'm sure I heard Voss media grab that stated Pitto and TDK will both be managing knee injuries for the remainder of the season.
Unfortunately, such is life for rucks.
On the CFC website, both are listed as week to week propositions (updated 4th July), and both are a test for the Freo game.
Massive opportunity for the boys this Sunday.
In Cottrell
Out Ed Curnow and Hewett
TDK failed a fitness test
In Cottrell
Out Ed Curnow and Hewett
TDK failed a fitness test
Surely Hewitt is the sub.
In Cottrell
Out Ed Curnow and Hewett
TDK failed a fitness test
We are in trouble. Freo's mids are not like Hawthorn's.
To be honest, without our regular rucks we won't be winning many more games. Silver lining - decent draft picks.
We are in trouble. Freo's mids are not like Hawthorn's.
To be honest, without our regular rucks we won't be winning many more games. Silver lining - decent draft picks.
We are no chance whatsoever this week.
Well at least we can experiment with the no ruckman strategy for real this week.
Well at least we can experiment with the no ruckman strategy for real this week.
Why for real? Are you suggesting it doesn't count against crap opponents??
I'd give Harry a run in the ruck too this week. Time for him to step up and use that big frame to help his team overcome
a bit of a disadvantage this week.
Why for real? Are you suggesting it doesn't count against crap opponents??
Against crap ruckman yeah. Silvagni usually goes okay against the pinch hitters from other teams.
If we win despite Darcy breaking the hit outs record it will be food for thought.
The ruck discrepancy is significant enough to wonder whether there's anything to be gained by even contesting them. I'd be tempted to contest a small number and for Silvagni and Young to be deployed somewhere more useful. Hopefully our mids have trained wearing purple.
The ruck discrepancy is significant enough to wonder whether there's anything to be gained by even contesting them. I'd be tempted to contest a small number and for Silvagni and Young to be deployed somewhere more useful. Hopefully our mids have trained wearing purple.
That's what I mean, do we just play Cripps as ruck and tell him not to touch him unless he grabs it.
We are in trouble. Freo's mids are not like Hawthorn's.
To be honest, without our regular rucks we won't be winning many more games. Silver lining - decent draft picks.
Freo was smashed in the clearances last week despite dominating the hitouts. While Young and Silvagni are way off English’s ability, our mids should be able to do a similar number on Freo’s mids. I expect they will have focused on sharking Freo hitouts and shutting down Freo’s ball movement away from stoppages.
I’m quietly confident that we’ve got this one
That's what I mean, do we just play Cripps as ruck and tell him not to touch him unless he grabs it.
I can see the appeal of that type of thinking. Work on the basis that they will end up with the ball first. Make the Freo mids the hunted, lots of close checking and body work, once they have the ball, then try to force the turnover. Easier said than done of course, but so is everything.
Against crap ruckman yeah. Silvagni usually goes okay against the pinch hitters from other teams.
If we win despite Darcy breaking the hit outs record it will be food for thought.
I thought the opposition didn't matter. You won or lost only based on the number of rucks you play.
At least thats the stat you post each week.
Are you suggesting there is more to it than that? ;)
This will be Charlie Curnow's 100th game. Best of luck. It's been quite the journey. No Ed unfortunately.
And Nic Newman's 100th as well.
Against crap ruckman yeah. Silvagni usually goes okay against the pinch hitters from other teams.
If we win despite Darcy breaking the hit outs record it will be food for thought.
He can break the hitouts record and it won't bother us.
If he breaks the hitouts to advantage record, then we are in trouble.
Incidentally, i'm not even sure what that is, but if i'd have to guess i'd say it was held by either Sandilands or Mumford.
EDIT: Here is a fun link, albeit missing the last few years...
https://www.afl.com.au/news/148231/all-time-single-match-stats-record-holders
Hitouts to advantage - 27 Goldstein - 2015
BU hitouts to advantage - 11 - Gawn - 2015+2016
TI hitouts to advantage - 14 - Mumford - 2016
CB hitouts to advantage - 15 - Simmonds - 2003
Its hard to find individual player records without going through each game a player has played (AFL Tables don't keep that stat) but earlier this year Pittonet had 20 in a game, and 18 in another from memory.
I suspect 2002 is the year when those stats were first recorded, rather than the year in which the record occurred. Those players weren't playing in 2002.
I suspect 2002 is the year when those stats were first recorded, rather than the year in which the record occurred. Those players weren't playing in 2002.
It states this is all from 1999 onwards
EDIT: Apologies. You are correct, i didn't scroll across to the next column...i'll update
It might be that the ruck contests aren't where we need to keep Darcy and Jackson in check.
It might be more their around the ground ability.
Both average around 14 possessions a game.
Without some decent opponents they may well exceed that number.
Now you would think, and hope, that Young, as a defender will have some effect in nullifying that, but playing as a defender around the ground against ruckmen may be a different challenge..
It might be that the ruck contests aren't where we need to keep Darcy and Jackson in check.
It might be more their around the ground ability.
Both average around 14 possessions a game.
Without some decent opponents they may well exceed that number.
Now you would think, and hope, that Young, as a defender will have some effect in nullifying that, but playing as a defender around the ground against ruckmen may be a different challenge..
Turn that negative into a positive.
Play through our 2 'rucks'.
Let Jack and Young run off them and force them to chase tail and tire them out.
Darcy is more likely to blow up as its not really his go....but thats exactly the one we want to tire out.
Id be hoping for Jack to get 20 touches and hit the scoreboard too.
Young, i'd just be happy to fill the hole at CHB.
I thought the opposition didn't matter. You won or lost only based on the number of rucks you play.
At least thats the stat you post each week.
Are you suggesting there is more to it than that? ;)
I said Silvagni can't ruck against legit ruckman. Let's wait till Sunday hey? It's your time to shine
I said Silvagni can't ruck against legit ruckman. Let's wait till Sunday hey? It's your time to shine
No, its not.
It is not, and has not ever been my contention to have silvagni play as a ruck.
Circumstances make it the better option....and when he does, he does a lot better than he should given how ill prepared he is to be a ruck.
If TDK had half the heart SOS had, and could become more of a weapon around the ground, including defensively, i'd be the first one to tell Jack to jog off to the 2nds....but he doesn't.
Jack will get flogged, but he won't drop his head. He won't shirk contests. He won't give up.
Young....i'd be happy if he can do just one of them under the same duress.
If we beat them despite getting flogged in the ruck then it will highlight how useless Pittonet is.
If we beat them despite getting flogged in the ruck then it will highlight how useless Pittonet is.
Not exactly.
It will certainly highlight that you don't need 2 rucks playing though.
Not exactly.
It will certainly highlight that you don't need 2 rucks playing though.
Yep and the one who is the invisible man after the tap gets the bullet.
Yep and the one who is the invisible man after the tap gets the bullet.
Which you are referring to Pittonet.
Yet he averages a mere 1 possession less than TDK does, and has played 8% less TOG on average.
So they are both invisible men around the ground. May as well play the one that gives us first use more than any other ruck in the game....and the one we offered a contract too first and isn't scared of throwing his weight around.
Pittonets ruck work around the ground is sublime. I just don't notice him after that. TDK follows up his ruck work, takes more marks and threatens to take more. He is yet to hit his prime.
Pittonets ruck work around the ground is sublime. I just don't notice him after that. TDK follows up his ruck work, takes more marks and threatens to take more. He is yet to hit his prime.
I did a comparison the other day with those 2 around the ground. I'm not going to find it again, but its somewhat of a myth about how much TDK actually does.
Yes, he definitely 'threatens' to take more marks, and he looks good doing it, but in the end, its an empty threat.
Maybe its the blonde hair. Maybe its the headband. But he gets a lot more attention put on him than he deserves based on his actual output.
I'd love nothing more for the guy to reach his potential (or even get halway close) but he is a perennial tease and needs to pull his finger out because potential doesn't cut it anymore.
As bad as the hawks rucks were at taking advantage of a situation they should've dominated, like REALLY dominated, it shows that 2 rucks is a luxury not worth having if it hinders your team balance.
I'd give Harry a run in the ruck too this week. Time for him to step up and use that big frame to help his team overcome
a bit of a disadvantage this week.
FFS, keep BigH as far away from Darcy as possible, Darcy fecks up opponents for fun!
FFS, keep BigH as far away from Darcy as possible, Darcy fecks up opponents for fun!
We should all remember that. Especially Pittonet.
I saw Docherty and McGovern in my local coffee shop here in Perth this morning having breakfast.
Happy to report McGovern appeared to get through uninjured!
I saw Docherty and McGovern in my local coffee shop here in Perth this morning having breakfast.
Happy to report McGovern appeared to get through uninjured!
:))
Hewett the sub.
Overcast and windy here but only about 30-40% chance of rain....the wind will make it tricky.
Vossy interviewed pre game and said the start is super important. Every time I have heard him say this in 2023 the game has been over at qtr time.
Vossy interviewed pre game and said the start is super important. Every time I have heard him say this in 2023 the game has been over at qtr time.
Alas, not always with us in front. Still, I understand why Voss said. I can hope it happens.