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Title: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: crashlander on February 17, 2017, 10:32:58 am
I've been a tad busy this week, but I do apologize for not starting this thread earlier. It is sad to think that this is almost half way through the season! (Well, 37.5% to be exact.)

I hope to be at next week's game: I won't be in Adelaide. I've been to many of the grounds there, but I haven't been to Thebarton. Some other day.
I will be recovering from yet another kidney stone operation. It is becoming a ritual, but one I would cease if I could. So cheer loudly for me!

The teams:
SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 19
Adelaide v Carlton, Thebarton Oval, 11.35am ACDT

ADELAIDE
B: J.McCormick 5, R.Killian 7, A.Foley 3
HB: K.Gibson 2, A.Hatchard 33, D.Varnhagen 9
C: J.Mules 23
HF: A.Holmes 1, C.Randall 26, S.Perkins 28
F: D.Cox 31, T.Thorn 15, C.Cramey 22
FOLL: R.Metcalfe 11, G.Bevan 4, J.Sedunary 17
INT: (from): E.Phillips 13, E.Marinoff 10, S.Thompson 14, T.Radan 6, S.Riley 8, H.Anderson 19, M.Hollick 18, S.Allan 39
Emergencies:

IN: J.Mules, M.Hollick, S.Allan
OUT: S Armistead

CARLTON
B: K. Loynes 2, D.Hardiman 31, G.Pound 6
HB: I.Ayre, R.Privitelli 9, A.Brown 27
C: L.Arnell 13
HF: B.Davey 1, K.Shierlaw 25, B.Jakobsson 35 , K.Darby 8, N.Exon 15
F: T.Lucas-Rodd 18, L.Attard 14, M.Keryk 4
FOLL: B.Moody 16, N.Exon, S.Last 7
INT: (from) K.Gillespie-Jones 5, D.Vescio 3, L.Brazzale 12, A.Downie 30, S.Hosking 10, T.Nestor 20, S.Audley 26, J.Kennedy 23,
Emergencies:

I look at this and wonder if there are any typos. But...

Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: BluePhantom on February 17, 2017, 10:39:43 am
I'll be going with my family so here's hoping they put on a great show and come home with the chocolates. ;D
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: DJC on February 17, 2017, 11:11:17 am
You had a few players listed twice Crash; probably understandable when you're suffering from kidney stones.


CARLTON
B: K. Loynes 2, D.Hardiman 31, G.Pound 6
HB: I.Ayre, R.Privitelli 9, A.Brown 27
C: L.Arnell 13
HF: B.Davey 1, K.Shierlaw 25, B.Jakobsson 35
F: T.Lucas-Rodd 18, L.Attard 14, M.Keryk 4
FOLL: B.Moody 16, N.Exon, S.Last 7
INT: K.Gillespie-Jones 5, D.Vescio 3, L.Brazzale 12, A.Downie 30, S.Hosking 10, S.Audley


I hope you're getting over the kidney stones ...
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: kruddler on February 17, 2017, 11:12:16 am

CARLTON
B: K. Loynes 2, D.Hardiman 31, G.Pound 6
HB: I.Ayre, R.Privitelli 9, A.Brown 27
C: L.Arnell 13
HF: B.Davey 1, K.Shierlaw 25, B.Jakobsson 35 , K.Darby 8, N.Exon 15
F: T.Lucas-Rodd 18, L.Attard 14, M.Keryk 4
FOLL: B.Moody 16, N.Exon, S.Last 7
INT: (from) K.Gillespie-Jones 5, D.Vescio 3, L.Brazzale 12, A.Downie 30, S.Hosking 10, T.Nestor 20, S.Audley 26, J.Kennedy 23,
Emergencies:

I look at this and wonder if there are any typos. But...

Don't know about typos exactly, but you've definitely mucked something up.
Got 5 HFs and Nat Exon twice.
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: Navy Maven on February 17, 2017, 12:08:31 pm
Glad to see Keryk back in. Will help with that inside work which seems to be missing in parts last week. Really hope we can shut down their forwards.
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: crashlander on February 18, 2017, 11:23:01 am
This team list was how it appeared on afl.com.au. Hence the comment at the bottom.
Interesting to see if the team does line up with 5 half forwards and a cloned layer with no number. :)
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: crashlander on February 19, 2017, 12:28:14 pm
Quarter time and it is pretty close:
Carlton 1 - 1 - 7
Adelaide 0 - 0 - 0
The conditions are ordinary and the breeze is making scoring difficult.
It would be nice if it were on free to air TV.
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: crashlander on February 19, 2017, 12:30:19 pm
9 possessions to Davey in the 1st quarter. 6 to Hardiman
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: crashlander on February 19, 2017, 12:33:00 pm
9 possessions to Davey in the 1st quarter. 6 to Hardiman
1 free to us. 6 to Adelaide.
Real Crows bias to the commentary.
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: flyboy77 on February 19, 2017, 12:44:09 pm
progress scores would be much appreciated folks!
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: crashlander on February 19, 2017, 12:47:34 pm
Half time:
Carlton 1 - 2 - 8
Adelaide 0 - 2 - 2
Not a lot of scoring, I'm afraid.
Really pro-Crows commentary is really irritating.
Inconsistency in umpiring is not helping my temper. Real home town umpiring.
Adelaide have probably had more of the ball, but we have managed to hold well in defence.
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: crashlander on February 19, 2017, 12:54:40 pm
Our forwards are getting cold, as we are not getting enough ball in the forward half. However, our defence is holding up very well. Our mids are probably down as well. Some of our taller players are struggling with the wind.
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: DJC on February 19, 2017, 12:56:40 pm
We need to make the most of the wind in the third quarter.  The defenders are really working hard and effectively but a 3-4 goal buffer would be nice.
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: crashlander on February 19, 2017, 01:00:13 pm
We are doing well in the ruck: Downie has 3 times the number of taps than anyone else. However we haven't been able to make the most of this. We do have some clean ball use and Vescio looks dangerous every time she gets near the ball.
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: crashlander on February 19, 2017, 01:12:32 pm
Pne goal each in the 3rd quarter with Davey off.
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: crashlander on February 19, 2017, 01:21:18 pm
3/4 time:
Carlton 2 - 2 - 14
Adelaide 1 - 2 - 8

1 goal to Vescio and one to Hosking.
Davey and Hardiman off that quarter. They were among our best. We didn't make enough of our chances and now it is raining.
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: DJC on February 19, 2017, 01:21:43 pm
Hardiman off too!

Is a 6 point lead enough with an injury cloud over our best defenders?
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: laj on February 19, 2017, 01:22:05 pm
We need to make the most of the wind in the third quarter.  The defenders are really working hard and effectively but a 3-4 goal buffer would be nice.

Not alot of wind here. Just chilly.
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: LoveNavy on February 19, 2017, 01:24:03 pm
Really tight contest and now the rain comes.
Girls need an early goal here to steady.
Arnell had a slow start. Hope she can get them going. Davey and ?Harding off hurt us.
Against the wind in the last!
Go Blues
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: LoveNavy on February 19, 2017, 01:30:44 pm
Crows take the lead
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: crashlander on February 19, 2017, 01:31:06 pm
Adelaide hit the front. We can't get the ball out of defence.
Beating us around the packs at the moment.
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: crashlander on February 19, 2017, 01:35:15 pm
Home town umpiring.
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: crashlander on February 19, 2017, 01:41:31 pm
1 minute to go and we're 3 points down. :(
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: crashlander on February 19, 2017, 01:42:49 pm
Lost by 3 points. We had our opportunities, but couldn't make the most of them.
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: madbluboy on February 19, 2017, 01:43:31 pm
Home town umpiring.

Yep. Free kicks for pushing someone back.
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: Lods on February 19, 2017, 01:48:15 pm
That's about the most biased commentating I've ever heard... >:(

They were a better side in the end...we didn't take advantage of the wind in the third and Davey being off for a bit hurt us.
Next time.
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: LoveNavy on February 19, 2017, 01:49:09 pm
Certainly a lesson of opportunity. Unfortunate kick from Davey with a few mins  to play that went out.
Great contests all over the ground. Well done to our girls on a hard fought battle in difficult weather conditions.
Davey sensational again as was Downie. Again saw some of our next tier girls play really good footy. There'll be some sore bodies tomorrow.
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: percy on February 19, 2017, 01:53:47 pm
Great effort blues. Injuries and terrible umpiring did not help.

As for the commentary on Fox....
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: LoveNavy on February 19, 2017, 02:00:19 pm
Great effort blues. Injuries and terrible umpiring did not help.

As for the commentary on Fox....

Much better than the blatant bias v Pies.
Sounded like sa main commentator, with a reasonably well constrained excitement. There were multiple times when Sam Jacobs balanced comments to include the Blues perspective. I liked that ^-^
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: kruddler on February 19, 2017, 02:10:33 pm
I thought the commentary was a lot worse in the GWS game.

...but it was still pathetic today.

Early on Crows player having a shot on goal. Sauce Jacobs says what she needs to do to allow for the wind, where to aim etc. As soon as he has finished saying that, "So, what does she need to do to allow for the wind here".  :o

Getting player numbers wrong etc.

THEN they have the audacity to say that this is a professional competition and the players need to lift with that professionalism and stop making amateur mistakes!  :o :o ::) :-\

Obviously there was the Crows bias there, but today showed that umpires in the AFLW can be influenced by the crowd too.  ::)

Good game to watch, considering the lack of scoring done, mainly due to the wind.

Davey clearly our best, when off the ground the crows kicked 2 goals and it cost us the game.
Vescio couldn't get near it, still makes the most of every opportunity. Was almost worth throwing her in the middle late in the game to try and win it.
Hardiman was solid in defense, and we were hurting when she went off too.

Plenty of other notable efforts...
Downie was amongst our bests.
Loynes, Pound, Hosking and Exon had a lot of physicality, but possibly not enough influence on the game. Flying the flag though.
Keryk was also pretty solid and will be better for the run.
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: BluePhantom on February 19, 2017, 02:42:21 pm
Was at the game, well.... the umpiring? what can you say especially in the last quarter, so much was happening off the ball the umpire had no control. NO control.
All the push me shove you stuff was not good either. They pushed us in the neck, we push back, they get the free. WTF.
The cows set up a wall across the centre and Vescio shouldve played higher or even on the ball. Someone with that much talent sitting in a forward line that didn't get the ball was a waste. But I think she was injured towards the end of the game.
We can talk about injuries but they lost a marque player in the first minute of the game.
We did alot of kick and hope and not enough carrying the ball. Need more run.
Quite a few time entries into the forward 50 were too low and went straight to the oppo. Need to give it height to give the forwards a chance.
And we didn't take our chances. The weather wasn't really a factor because it was the same for both teams although trying to kick into the wind in the last is hard when you are running out of legs.
There was also alot of dirty stuff happening off the ball, alot of illegal shepherding way off the ball.
We got the majority of the hit outs but seemed to tap them straight down which I thought was weird.
The girls didnt hold back and flew the flag when needed but were out done in the end.
This will be the Grand Final teams IMO.  :)
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: DJC on February 19, 2017, 03:23:08 pm
Nice report BP.

I agree with you about Vescio; she was freezing her buns off and we were desperate for options to move the ball forward.

I don't think you can blame Sauce for bias but he was probably the most even-handed.  Chyloe (what kind of a name is that?) is as much use as a hip pocket in a singlet  ::)

I'm not yet able to recognise all players and it's annoying when the commentators don't mention the name of the player who has just taken a contested mark.
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: BluePhantom on February 19, 2017, 04:15:16 pm
Just on a side note but # 9. Deni Varnhagen for the Crows is not bad on the eye..to put it as politically correct as I can. :)
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: BluePhantom on February 19, 2017, 04:29:23 pm
Oh yeah, the other thing I noticed was there was a lot of pushing, into and during the contest. I think this might be more to the girls protecting themselves instead of having body contact. But there were a lot of pushes that should've been free kicks.
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: LoveNavy on February 19, 2017, 07:44:45 pm
Oh yeah, the other thing I noticed was there was a lot of pushing, into and during the contest. I think this might be more to the girls protecting themselves instead of having body contact. But there were a lot of pushes that should've been free kicks.

that might have meant 30 - 16 in Crows favor, instead of 15 - 8 right :-\
Great report by the way BP thankyou
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: Thryleon on February 19, 2017, 11:38:30 pm
Just on a side note but # 9. Deni Varnhagen for the Crows is not bad on the eye..to put it as politically correct as I can. :)

Screw politically correct.   Half the women I know who like men's football don't watch it for the sport. 

Why is there a double standard applied to the blokes? 
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: kruddler on February 20, 2017, 07:38:44 pm
Since it was brought up, Abbie Holmes might look good all dolled up ready for a night out on the town, but why they hell does she put so much makeup on to play a game of football?! There's a few that do it, but she overdoes it.

...and AFAIK the correct pronunciation of Holmes is 'Homes', not 'Hole-mns' Commentators said it every time and i cringed every time.
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: Gointocarlton on February 20, 2017, 10:43:42 pm
Meh, the girls wearing make up is no different to the blokes waxing all body hair, ensuring the hair on their head is immaculately styled and full of product to keep it in place for 120 mins. What ever makes them comfortable, as long as they can find/win the agot and either handball/kick it to someone with the same jumper as theirs, or slot it through the big sticks more often than not.
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: DJC on February 20, 2017, 10:54:23 pm
Meh, the girls wearing make up is no different to the blokes waxing all body hair, ensuring the hair on their head is immaculately styled and full of product to keep it in place for 120 mins. What ever makes them comfortable, as long as they can find/win the agot and either handball/kick it to someone with the same jumper as theirs, or slot it through the big sticks more often than not.

Tend to agree.  Apart from there being nothing wrong with looking good, a lot of make up has an SPF rating these days and, while it wasn't sunny for the game, it was at a high UV time.
Title: Re: AFLW Round 3: Carlton vs Adelaide
Post by: laj on February 21, 2017, 08:27:21 am
I reckon one position you'd never volunteer to play in the women's game is full forward. No chance of kicking a bagful with the lack of scoring.