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Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #150 –
Spot on Macca.....said it in one of the other discussion topics....at times it looked like they had 3 extra players out there!

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #151 –
Quote from: Macca37 on
Surely our backline must go into siege mentality mode early in a game when our inevitable skill errors cause turnovers on our half forward line and the ball comes rocketing back at them through the centre.

Those skill errors, unwillingness to chase and consequent lack of pressure on opposition teams must contribute to a losing mindset that has been a feature of the club for most of this century despite a huge turnover in the players list and numerous coaches.

An air of complacency seems to be a feature of the club - how else to explain the recruitment of players with mediocre skills at best and then providing them with no specialised coaching to reach AFL standard?

Harry is a prime example.  Why has he not been taught a set routine when taking a set shot for goal?  It is quite plain to see that his current method depends entirely on the thought bubble occupying his mind just before taking his kick.

That raises the question: why do we keep recruiting players whose skills will keep us occupying the bottom half of the ladder?

I wish I had the overconfidence of Paul P.  At present I am struggling to be in the glass half full frame of mind.




Apparently he spent all summer working with a Psyche on his kicking routine and they determined what works best for him. You are seeing the results.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #152 –
Quote from: Macca37 on


An air of complacency seems to be a feature of the club - how else to explain the recruitment of players with mediocre skills at best and then providing them with no specialised coaching to reach AFL standard?

Harry is a prime example.  Why has he not been taught a set routine when taking a set shot for goal?  It is quite plain to see that his current method depends entirely on the thought bubble occupying his mind just before taking his kick.

That raises the question: why do we keep recruiting players whose skills will keep us occupying the bottom half of the ladder?





It takes serious skill to assemble so many players like this in the one team. Commendable really.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #153 –
Quote from: WASurfer on
Spot on Macca.....said it in one of the other discussion topics....at times it looked like they had 3 extra players out there!

I love listening to Hodge's special comments where he points out where the mistakes are made and where more attention/effort must be made and where things must be done better. If only we had someone like him at the club directing our onfield efforts I think we could start making strides forward in our player development.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #154 –
Quote from: cookie2 on
I love listening to Hodge's special comments where he points out where the mistakes are made and where more attention/effort must be made and where things must be done better. If only we had someone like him at the club directing our onfield efforts I think we could start making strides forward in our player development.
Can’t stand him

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #156 –
Quote from: cookie2 on
You don't have to like him. Ruthless people can often be unlikable.
I didnt like David Rhys Jones at the Swans, hated Greg Williams too....couple of premierships can make you fall in love real quick.. ;)

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #157 –
Quote from: cookie2 on
You don't have to like him. Ruthless people can often be unlikable.
Agree cookie, Hodge was the biggest sniping Kent in the game and I couldn't stand him. But those who have played along side or against him will tell you he IS the man you want to lead you into battle. He drove the standards Clarko set, he made abundantly clear that if it you didn't like it, pack your bag and fork off. Clarko didn't have to do a thing, he just set his attack dog. off and the job was done. They partied hard make no mistake about that and they were admirable led by Hodgey, his closed shop house parties were legendary, but the partying was only at appropriate times. He would be a brilliant assistant coach for us, but it will never happen because Barker, Bruce and co have pension plans with the club.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #158 –
CARLTON’S CONCERN

Points against
86.0
Rank 13th

Opp goals per inside 50 %
24.3%
Rank 15th

Points from turnover diff
-9.8
Rank 15th

Opp pts from defensive half
36.2
Rank 14th

D50 to inside 50 %
18.1%
Rank 18th

Pressure factor
169
Rank 18th

2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #159 –
@MBB.....

I'd like to see what kind of DE% we have, specifically kicking.

Majority of those stats could be a result of poor kicking.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #161 –
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-stand-for-nothing-says-maclure-20210419-p57kjp.html

Under David Teague, Maclure and other former players have questioned the use of younger players and the roles they are given in the team. The young players when they have played have not played critical midfield roles.

“What’s wrong with [Liam] Stocker? What is wrong with Paddy Dow? They are not going to win the premiership so why not play these blokes?” Maclure said.

Oh my God. Just speechless. More reasons why I don't rate Maclure at all.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #162 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
CARLTON’S CONCERN

Points against
86.0
Rank 13th

Opp goals per inside 50 %
24.3%
Rank 15th

Points from turnover diff
-9.8
Rank 15th

Opp pts from defensive half
36.2
Rank 14th

D50 to inside 50 %
18.1%
Rank 18th

Pressure factor
169
Rank 18th


Pressure factor is no surprise, you have to be near an opponent to pressure them.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #164 –
Quote from: Macca37 on
I read the whole article.  Maclure sees what most supporters see: 20 wasted years.  Couldn't agree more.
Hard to disagree isnt it, doesnt hold back on McGovern, SPS, Betts and Murphy either, something will have to give at seasons end if this trend continues, we appear to be slipping in some key onfield areas from last season. A lot of it is just not working hard enough and less to do with talent.