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Title: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: crashlander on April 13, 2017, 11:35:28 am
This weekend, around 1600, our VFL team is going to be challenged by the U18 All Stars. This has been a good game in the past for picking out good kids to recruit, not to mention the chance for a few of our guys to find some form.
This is the curtain raiser for our game against the Suns at Etihad.
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: Baggers on April 13, 2017, 11:45:00 am
This weekend, around 1600, our VFL team is going to be challenged by the U18 All Stars. This has been a good game in the past for picking out good kids to recruit, not to mention the chance for a few of our guys to find some form.
This is the curtain raiser for our game against the Suns at Etihad.

...and a good reason for yours truly to arrive early! Looking forward to it...
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: crashlander on April 13, 2017, 09:21:34 pm
The team for this match has not been released as such. Probably because it is an exhibition match. I am sure that the Northern Blues website will put the team up. Saturday morning....?
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: Baggers on April 13, 2017, 09:30:52 pm
The team for this match has not been released as such. Probably because it is an exhibition match. I am sure that the Northern Blues website will put the team up. Saturday morning....?

From the NBs website: The Northern Blues will head to Etihad Stadium this Saturday in a curtain raiser for the Carlton-Gold Coast clash.

The Blues will take on the AFL National Academy, a team made up of the best under-18 players in the country.

It will allow Bluebaggers to be able to see their entire available list in action, with the VFL Blues to take to the field prior to Carlton attempting to make it two wins in a row.


Reckon we'll field our best possible side. Le Bois and the emergency, hopefully, will be the only CFC listed blokes missing. (Le Bois - quad).
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: BluePhantom on April 14, 2017, 05:49:42 am
From the NBs website: The Northern Blues will head to Etihad Stadium this Saturday in a curtain raiser for the Carlton-Gold Coast clash.

The Blues will take on the AFL National Academy, a team made up of the best under-18 players in the country.

It will allow Bluebaggers to be able to see their entire available list in action, with the VFL Blues to take to the field prior to Carlton attempting to make it two wins in a row.


Reckon we'll field our best possible side. Le Bois and the emergency, hopefully, will be the only CFC listed blokes missing. (Le Bois - quad).
Just on LeBois, is he a speculative pick or does he have the goods?
Currently SOS has a pretty good hit miss ratio. So am excited to see what else he will bring to the table.
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: flyboy77 on April 14, 2017, 07:02:59 am
Just on LeBois, is a speculative pick or does he have the goods?
Currently SOS has a pretty good hit miss ratio. So am excited to see what else he will bring to the table.

Gar Buckenara had the kid going top 25 in the main draft if that says anything!

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/carlton/video-carlton-rookie-kym-lebois-kicks-incredible-snap-goal-with-first-kick-in-afl-preseason-game/news-story/fa7aa2c99215f008892ee4f92937319f (http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/carlton/video-carlton-rookie-kym-lebois-kicks-incredible-snap-goal-with-first-kick-in-afl-preseason-game/news-story/fa7aa2c99215f008892ee4f92937319f)
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: crashlander on April 16, 2017, 12:04:08 pm
I have tried to merge the 2 threads on this game, but that hasn't worked so far. Maybe someone higher up the food chain can manage that a little later.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9bqgosVoAA2Z4G.jpg)
This was posted yesterday on the NB's website. The numbers do not match those in the footy record, which caused me considerable confusion.

In the record        On the team sheet  No
Kane Keppel         Sam Kerridge         25
Cameron Barrett   Marcus Stavrou      21
Jed Lamb              Billy Smedts          51

I couldn't get a record until half time, as they were not selling them. I thought 25 was Kerridge, but .... He had 40 possessions and played very well.
Smedts was less outstanding, but did well and took a couple of very nice marks.
Stavrou impressed me a lot. He looks to have real talent.
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: crashlander on April 16, 2017, 12:13:09 pm
Unlike all of the previous games of this series, as we have played the AIS U18's for 3 years now and a couple of others VFL teams have as well, this game was a blow out. Our boys used their more mature bodies and superior structures to really dominate the game. The U18 boys had little chance to shine, except for the 1st quarter. There were good signs for us.

Carlton players:
Dylan Buckley: Dylan played pretty well and he had the small forwards under control. His run and dash was good, but he doesn't do enough for my tastes. He appreciated the relative lack of pressure and didn't panic at all.
Liam Jones: Liam played in defence for the whole game and did pretty well. He was not beaten in a marking contest. He would get a lot of confidence out of that effort.
Andrew Philips: Looked a bit rusty, but started taking some marks later in the game and did well in the centre bounce.
Harry McKay: There were times when it looked like Harry would dominate, as the U18's struggled to handle him. He took a couple of excellent contested marks, but his kicking....
I would like to see a greater level of determination from Harry.
Sam Kerridge: Kerridge totally dominated. With that extra moment or 2, he made few mistakes and really got the ball away from the centre. He had 40 possessions and he wasted very few of them.
Alex Silvagni: What Kerridge did in the midfield, Silvagni did in defence. He was a general down there and he knew when to leave his man and when not too. Intercept marks, good disposal, good body work, hard running: he showed the things that could well get him senior football this year.
Paddy Kerr: did some nice things but payed mainly up the field. Doesn't do enough at this point, but he does have a nice pair of hands and a dangerous boot.
Jesse Glass-McCasker: Pretty quiet in defence, but did his job. Went forward after half time and looked much better. he got into the game, made some good decisions, took a couple of lovely marks and kicked straight. Far more in the play in the forward line. He went off late in the game with a minor injury.
Gussy Sheehan: Unfortunately he went off in the last quarter with what looked to be a minor quad injury. It was a pity, because he showed heaps in defence with some great decision making and that excellent left foot. He also played on the wing and was very good.
Kristian Jaksch: OK in he forward line in the first half, but he went back into defence and that got him into the game. He kicked 2 50+ metre goals while played in defence and was more in the play.
Dennis Armfield: spent a lot of time on the bench, coming on after half time. A real leader at this level, but he wasn't needed and only went out to run off the cobwebs.
Billie Smedts: Very solid and powerful in the air. Very solid. Should be happy with his game.
Liam Sumner: Didn't impress a lot, he appeared to have a job, but he didn't get a lot of the ball.
Andrew Gallucci: he had a couple of great patches, but he also spent a fair time on the bench. He kicked 3 goals in the 1st quarter and another in the last. I am not sold on him yet, but if he keeps kicking goals he'll get a game.
David Cuningham: Apart from a couple of dodgy kicks at goal, Cunners had a good game. He got a number of centre clearances and looked dangerous each time the ball went near him. Not so impressive on the negative side yet. 25 possessions and the only dodgy ones where his attempts at scoring.
Blaine Boekhorst: very disappointing. Not a lot of the ball and just didn't appear to have the desire.
Cameron Polson: 28 possessions including some nice centre clearances. Kicked a goal from beyond 50. I didn't see much defensive about his play, but he did enough to suggest he could get a game soon.
Matt Korchek: Did most of the ruck work n the first half and did quite well. I don't think he will make it: he offers very little apart from his tap work. But he has improved.
I think it also showed that there does NOT look to be the champion ruckman in this cohort. That is a big negative for us.
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: RiverRat on April 16, 2017, 04:30:53 pm
Have to qualify all positive statements by reminding oneself that they were playing against 17 year old kids - with the exception of our own teenagers who were opposed by talented players with similar physiques. Good commentary Crash but I thought I would add some of my own.

Dylan Buckley: Dylan played pretty well and he had the small forwards under control. His run and dash was good, but he doesn't do enough for my tastes. He appreciated the relative lack of pressure and didn't panic at all. Agreed
Liam Jones: Liam played in defence for the whole game and did pretty well. He was not beaten in a marking contest. He would get a lot of confidence out of that effort. Jones has all of the attributes to be a good defender but rarely plays there and it might be too late in the day to make the change - should have been tried there more often. Unlike Jaksch, he can adjust to the ball in flight and has the closing speed and leap to spoil many marking contests. Also has the speed and body work to assist players trying to run the ball out of defence.
Andrew Philips: Looked a bit rusty, but started taking some marks later in the game and did well in the centre bounce. Agreed but against limited opposition
Harry McKay: There were times when it looked like Harry would dominate, as the U18's struggled to handle him. He took a couple of excellent contested marks, but his kicking....
I would like to see a greater level of determination from Harry. Should have imposed himself and didn't
Sam Kerridge: Kerridge totally dominated. With that extra moment or 2, he made few mistakes and really got the ball away from the centre. He had 40 possessions and he wasted very few of them.
Alex Silvagni: What Kerridge did in the midfield, Silvagni did in defence. He was a general down there and he knew when to leave his man and when not too. Intercept marks, good disposal, good body work, hard running: he showed the things that could well get him senior football this year.
Paddy Kerr: did some nice things but payed mainly up the field. Doesn't do enough at this point Agreed, but he does have a nice pair of hands and a dangerous boot.
Jesse Glass-McCasker: Pretty quiet in defence, but did his job. Went forward after half time and looked much better. he got into the game, made some good decisions, took a couple of lovely marks and kicked straight. Far more in the play in the forward line. He went off late in the game with a minor injury. Showed more as a lead up forward than I have seen from him as a defender
Gussy Sheehan: Unfortunately he went off in the last quarter with what looked to be a minor quad injury. It was a pity, because he showed heaps in defence with some great decision making and that excellent left foot. He also played on the wing and was very good. Agreed
Kristian Jaksch: OK in he forward line in the first half, but he went back into defence and that got him into the game. He kicked 2 50+ metre goals while played in defence and was more in the play. Same issues as before - Matthew Watson Mark II. Has decent hands and can kick goals from outside 50 but struggles to get any contested marks. He relies on receiving good passes when he leads in a straight line, when he is unopposed (as he was for the 2 goals yesterday) and getting free kicks when an opponent falls over him. He will continue to kick a few goals per game in the VFL but not much more unless the coaches identify and address his limitations - they couldn't do it for Watson and show no signs of doing so for JK.
Dennis Armfield: spent a lot of time on the bench, coming on after half time. A real leader at this level, but he wasn't needed and only went out to run off the cobwebs.
Billie Smedts: Very solid and powerful in the air. Very solid. Should be happy with his game. Agreed but needs to use the ball better
Liam Sumner: Didn't impress a lot, he appeared to have a job, but he didn't get a lot of the ball. spent a lot of time on the pine
Andrew Gallucci: he had a couple of great patches, but he also spent a fair time on the bench. He kicked 3 goals in the 1st quarter and another in the last. I am not sold on him yet, but if he keeps kicking goals he'll get a game. has speed, quickness and goal sense but Zac Fisher has probably deposited him further down the pecking order
David Cuningham: Apart from a couple of dodgy kicks at goal, Cunners had a good game. He got a number of centre clearances and looked dangerous each time the ball went near him. Not so impressive on the negative side yet. 25 possessions and the only dodgy ones where his attempts at scoring. Agreed
Blaine Boekhorst: very disappointing. Not a lot of the ball and just didn't appear to have the desire. This seems to be a kind assessment
Cameron Polson: 28 possessions including some nice centre clearances. Kicked a goal from beyond 50. I didn't see much defensive about his play, but he did enough to suggest he could get a game soon.
Matt Korchek: Did most of the ruck work n the first half and did quite well. I don't think he will make it: he offers very little apart from his tap work. But he has improved. Agreed - unfortunately

Good move by the coaches to play Jones and Jaksch in defence in order to give the young forwards (plus JGM) an opportunity to paly against similar strength defenders  - unfortunately, only JGM seemed to take advantage of the opportunity.

Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: crashlander on April 16, 2017, 04:31:16 pm
Of the VFL listed players:

Tom Wilson: Tom got 26 possessions, but he didn't stand out like he can. Good and strong inside.
Sam Russell: OK, but didn't stand out at all.
Glenn Strachan: Very solid. A very strong game. 23 possessions.
Cam O'Shea: Not outstanding, but very solid in defence.
Dyson Stevens: Didn't get a lot of game time, but did well enough.
Marcus Stavrou: Easily the best of the VFL guys. He looked very good and took a couple of very good marks. Not as much of the ball as last week, but he stood out with his run and good decision making.
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: crashlander on April 16, 2017, 04:40:59 pm
Have to qualify all positive statements by reminding oneself that they were playing against 17 year old kids - with the exception of our own teenagers who were opposed by talented players with similar physiques. Good commentary Crash but I thought I would add some of my own.
Fair enough. I always like to hear your opinions.
By the way we played, it appeared that we were really stung by last week's relatively ordinary performance. The coach obviously challenged the lads and they responded. I like that, as all previous games in this format have been close.

Good move by the coaches to play Jones and Jaksch in defence in order to give the young forwards (plus JGM) an opportunity to paly against similar strength defenders  - unfortunately, only JGM seemed to take advantage of the opportunity.
Jones showed a LOT of discipline as a defender, very much of the Sam Rowe style. He spoilt first and worried about anything else 2nd.
In the last quarter he flew for a few speckies, his only attempt to do a few more spectacular things. His kicking was also better: he didn't have the pressure of kicking at goal and handballed or short passed to guys in reasonable position by choice (often Silvagni).
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: Professer E on April 16, 2017, 10:33:59 pm
I'm more interested how the AIS kids went as this game has been a reasonable indicator in the past.
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: RiverRat on April 17, 2017, 12:26:14 am
Jones showed a LOT of discipline as a defender, very much of the Sam Rowe style. He spoilt first and worried about anything else 2nd.
In the last quarter he flew for a few speckies, his only attempt to do a few more spectacular things. His kicking was also better: he didn't have the pressure of kicking at goal and handballed or short passed to guys in reasonable position by choice (often Silvagni).

Jones has most of the physical attributes to play AFL and should have been given a decent tryout in defence.
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 17, 2017, 12:38:09 am
Jones has most of the physical attributes to play AFL and should have been given a decent tryout in defence.

x3...was ok vs Port Melbourne when I watched him....seemed more composed than many of his teammates...never thought I would be saying that about him :o
Jones probably deserves some games down back just to make sure we are not missing something  before we move him on  and if we are going to keep playing Weitering down forward then he might be useful down back....

JGM isnt going to make it as a KP defender IMO so we need another option , funny how JGM looked better forward according to a few people....
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: cookie2 on April 17, 2017, 08:40:18 am
Maybe give Jones a go this week on Charlie Dixon who will be a big handful?
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: DJC on April 17, 2017, 09:03:33 am
Maybe give Jones a go this week on Charlie Dixon who will be a big handful?

Who would you drop for Jones?
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: cookie2 on April 17, 2017, 10:30:30 am
Who would you drop for Jones?

I wouldn't like to "drop" anybody from our defence really, but maybe one of them, or even from elsewhere, could do with a rest? This would be primarily about finding out about Jones as a defender rather than punishing a player for their performance. This is another year of development and major list management decisions is it not? Don't we need to make sure all options are considered?
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: DJC on April 17, 2017, 10:49:28 am
I wouldn't like to "drop" anybody from our defence really, but maybe one of them, or even from elsewhere, could do with a rest? This would be primarily about finding out about Jones as a defender rather than punishing a player for their performance. This is another year of development and major list management decisions is it not? Don't we need to make sure all options are considered?

The blokes currently in our back half, including Simon White, are performing very well.  The more they play together, the better they will work as a defensive unit and that's particularly important for Williamson, Macreadie and Marchbank.  I wouldn't 'rest' any of them but I wouldn't mind Jones being given an opportunity if a vacancy comes up.

I'd like to see Jones succeed but I think the die is cast and his spot on the list is earmarked for someone else.  There's only one person who can change that by playing out of his skin in whatever position and/or team he's named.
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: cookie2 on April 17, 2017, 02:55:37 pm
The blokes currently in our back half, including Simon White, are performing very well.  The more they play together, the better they will work as a defensive unit and that's particularly important for Williamson, Macreadie and Marchbank.  I wouldn't 'rest' any of them but I wouldn't mind Jones being given an opportunity if a vacancy comes up.

I'd like to see Jones succeed but I think the die is cast and his spot on the list is earmarked for someone else.  There's only one person who can change that by playing out of his skin in whatever position and/or team he's named.

Hopefully then he will be given the opportunity to play in defence more in the NBs before any decision is made as to his future with us. I think his goose is probably well cooked as a forward now as he's had plenty of chances there.
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: crashlander on April 17, 2017, 03:00:26 pm
Maybe give Jones a go this week on Charlie Dixon who will be a big handful?
Not the worst move we could make. Silvagni has also put his hand up. Team balance will be an interesting thing this year, especially with the kids.
Now that Jones has moved back, he does deserve a go, whether this week or sometime soon. Rowe managed to turn into a more than useful defender from an underperforming forward. Jones has one advantage over him: pace.
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: LoveNavy on April 17, 2017, 03:21:11 pm
Re: Jones
Got to be worth a try down back. Ive not noticed his pace, but he can hurt in the marking contest. For mine, his main limitation is inability to read play and position himself. He often gets caught flat footed, perhaps because he 'didn't see that coming'.
It's a year for development after all. There will be times when the youngsters need a rest I'd imagine.
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: DJC on April 17, 2017, 03:51:05 pm
Re: Jones
Got to be worth a try down back. Ive not noticed his pace, but he can hurt in the marking contest. For mine, his main limitation is inability to read play and position himself. He often gets caught flat footed, perhaps because he 'didn't see that coming'.
It's a year for development after all. There will be times when the youngsters need a rest I'd imagine.

That's what concerns me about Jones as a defender.  He would probably do OK if his opponent took him to contests.  It would be a different matter if he was matched with an opponent with good running patterns and who could find space.
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 17, 2017, 04:15:36 pm
That's what concerns me about Jones as a defender.  He would probably do OK if his opponent took him to contests.  It would be a different matter if he was matched with an opponent with good running patterns and who could find space.

Wouldnt have minded trying him vs Lynch....Rowe was too slow and everyone else too small.....not sure why we are such slow learners, some players continue to burn us every match year in year out but we setup the same way each time with the same players....ie Martin, Steven and now Lynch..
Jones might have had more leg speed and at least could have helped the likes of Rowe as second man up or he could have filled the hole in front of Lynch.....I think we are often one tall short overall and at times miss that tall allrounder who could play both ends. The Weitering experiment hasnt really worked and I think I would like an alternative to help him out as well...
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: PaulP on April 17, 2017, 04:28:45 pm
Wouldnt have minded trying him vs Lynch....Rowe was too slow and everyone else too small.....not sure why we are such slow learners, some players continue to burn us every match year in year out but we setup the same way each time with the same players....ie Martin, Steven and now Lynch..
Jones might have had more leg speed and at least could have helped the likes of Rowe as second man up or he could have filled the hole in front of Lynch.....I think we are often one tall short overall and at times miss that tall allrounder who could play both ends. The Weitering experiment hasnt really worked and I think I would like an alternative to help him out as well...
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In a better world, that was Hendo. Unfortunately his position at the club became untenable. Shame.
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 17, 2017, 04:36:15 pm
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In a better world, that was Hendo. Unfortunately his position at the club became untenable. Shame.

You can put Jaksch in that category too....I reckon one of them needs to be tried and we are one tall short......
Peter Wright ended up on Plowman and that reminded me of when we burnt Andrew Walker playing him on the likes of Travis Cloke....
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: cookie2 on April 17, 2017, 04:44:49 pm
You can put Jaksch in that category too....I reckon one of them needs to be tried and we are one tall short......
Peter Wright ended up on Plowman and that reminded me of when we burnt Andrew Walker playing him on the likes of Travis Cloke....

We've got a history of throwing players to the wolves EB. I won't nominate any for fear of resurrecting a hornet's nest!  :D
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: LoveNavy on April 17, 2017, 05:00:51 pm
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In a better world, that was Hendo. Unfortunately his position at the club became untenable. Shame.

My thought exactly. Oh well, we move on..
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: RiverRat on April 17, 2017, 06:46:37 pm

Jones might have had more leg speed and at least could have helped the likes of Rowe as second man up or he could have filled the hole in front of Lynch.....I think we are often one tall short overall and at times miss that tall allrounder who could play both ends.

Jones is really quite fast - he just lacks a big tank  - he can adjust to the ball in the air - just isn't so good knowing where to lead - gets his hand to the ball in nearly every marking contest - just isn't very good at holding it at the first grab

What could have made him a decent defender is his closing speed and reach to spoil - something that Jamo had before injuries got in the way

Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: Professer E on April 17, 2017, 07:27:52 pm
You know Rodent, I reckon you're onto something here.  Must be worth a shot.

I guess we can't shift him back because we aren't exactly over stocked with KPFs at any level.
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: Baggers on April 17, 2017, 07:55:48 pm
Good to see talk about Jones the defender. We suggested this last year as well.

As Ye Rat O' the River mentioned, the bloke is quick and gets his hands to the aggott and is aggressive on the deck with tackling etc. Being led to the ball would help him no end and I agree that on two metre Peter he would have caught him and created a contest and headache for the opposition coach.
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: Jack Burton on April 17, 2017, 08:02:03 pm
I thought Macreadie looked sore on Saturday, might be a good opportunity to give him a rest and give Jones a crack at Dixon?
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: Thryleon on April 17, 2017, 09:24:17 pm
I thought Macreadie looked sore on Saturday, might be a good opportunity to give him a rest and give Jones a crack at Dixon?

Was going to write this.

I think we need to rotate the younger guys a little too. 

Charlie Curnow hasn't covered himself in glory at this stage either and might benefit from lesser pressure in the vfl. 
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: crashlander on April 18, 2017, 01:07:48 pm
Fair enough. Especially for the 1st year kids.
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: crashlander on April 18, 2017, 07:40:28 pm
It appears I did Boekhorst something of a disservice: he managed 23 possessions. I just don't recall many of them. Am I at fault?
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 18, 2017, 08:25:19 pm
Meh, match against U18s. Only thing I took out of it (watching the highlights) was was some nice straight kicking from our fwds, namely H and KJ. Also, there was abit of a Gallucci show. Other than that, seemed like U18s playing Auskickers, WOFT.
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: crashlander on April 19, 2017, 08:51:11 am
In previous years guys like Weidemann and Weitering really stood out in the corresponding games. There have always been a number of guys who beat VFL players. This time there wasn't. Unless the U18's can really turn it around in their next game, then there will be questions about the quality of this year's draft cohort.

I think it is a little early for that sort of thing, but there will be people who will bring it up.
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: Thryleon on April 19, 2017, 10:06:23 am
It appears I did Boekhorst something of a disservice: he managed 23 possessions. I just don't recall many of them. Am I at fault?

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2017-04-18/vfl-player-review-vs-afl-academy

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Northern Blues coach Josh Fraser reviews the performances of every Carlton-listed player in Northern's 75-point win over the AFL Academy in a friendly match at Etihad Stadium on Saturday.

7. Dylan Buckley
Stats: 17 disposals, 7 marks, 11 uncontested possessions
From the coach: ‘Bucks’ is defending really well at the moment. He was hard at it on the day with his positioning to get a result in a number of one-on-one contests, and he made good decisions with the ball.


14. Liam Jones
Stats: 15 disposals, 9 marks (3 contested), 4 inside 50s
From the coach: He’s playing a slightly different role for us at the moment as a defender, where he’s attacking the contest with real ferocity and giving us defensive stability. He’s adding another string to his bow.

15. Andrew Phillips
Stats: 8 disposals, 4 marks, 1 goal, 30 hitouts
From the coach: It was a really strong performance from ‘Flip’, where he gave us first use through the middle of the ground. His follow-up and work around the ground continues to grow after a long layoff. He’s tracking well.


19. Harry McKay
Stats: 12 disposals, 8 marks, 3 inside 50s, 2 goals
From the coach: Harry had a lot of opportunity to impact the game, he just needs to finish his good work by clunking marks because he’s getting into good positions. He continues to present and work really hard. We feel there’s a big game around the corner.

25. Sam Kerridge
Stats: 40 disposals, 9 marks, 10 clearances, 1 goal
From the coach: He ran all day, providing us with real grunt around the contest and great spread with and without the ball. He put together a really strong performance and was one of our better performers on the day.

26. Alex Silvagni
Stats: 17 disposals, 11 marks, 4 tackles
From the coach: Alex was enormous as a senior figure in our back-line, setting up other defenders and playing the system really well. His contest was aggressive as always and he used the ball out of our back half well.

31. Patrick Kerr
Stats: 11 disposals, 4 marks, 3 inside 50s
From the coach: He keeps working really hard on his game. We think he’s going to be an exciting player for us. He battled hard as a forward and working back towards goal. He’ll continue to develop.

34. Jesse Glass-McCasker
Stats: 8 disposals, 5 marks, 2 goals
From the coach: We used him in a couple of different roles, and he kicked his first two goals for the club. He’s working hard on his craft as a defender and we’re really pleased with some of his improvement in that area, while he’s a good size and showed some good signs up forward.

47. Ciaran Sheehan
Stats: 14 disposals, 5 marks, 1 goal
From the coach: ‘Gussy’ was really strong again, defending with real speed and urgency while his disposal was great. It was another good game from him.

48. Kristian Jaksch
Stats: 24 disposals (22 kicks), 13 marks (4 inside 50), 3 goals
From the coach: We used him at both ends to continue to give him flexibility. As a forward, worked in conjunction with McKay and Kerr, both up the ground and back towards goal. As a defender, he provided stability and was strong in the contest.

49. Dennis Armfield
Stats: 15 disposals, 5 tackles (4 inside 50), 2 inside 50s
From the coach: Purely from a leadership perspective, he was enormous and energised the playing group. He put on some great pressure in our forward half and played a strong team game.



51. Billie Smedts
Stats: 22 disposals, 6 inside 50s, 1 goal
From the coach: Billie played a number of roles and used his running capacity both offensively and defensively. He used the ball really well and continues to address areas of his game he wants to work on. It was a step in the right direction.



55. Liam Sumner
Stats: 7 disposals
From the coach: Liam was in and out of the game. He showed flashes of AFL-standard running and pressure. He didn’t finish the game, he was a little bit sore. While he was on the ground he showed good signs, but the next step is putting it together for longer.

56. Andrew Gallucci
Stats: 19 disposals (12 contested), 4 goals
From the coach: He was terrific as a small forward. His speed and work rate was a feature, and importantly along with his pressure he managed to hit the scoreboard as a small forward. The expectation is that he continues this run of form.

60. David Cuningham
Stats: 25 disposals, 6 marks, 4 clearances, 5 inside 50s

From the coach: I thought he was really strong around the stoppages. He won his own ball and ran really hard. He continues to grow, and it was an important game from him for his development.



62. Blaine Boekhorst
Stats: 23 disposals, 10 marks, 5 inside 50s, 1 goal
From the coach: His running has him impacting the game. He played mainly on the wing and used the ball okay. There are things which need fine-tuning but I thought it was a strong game.


67. Cameron Polson
Stats: 28 disposals, 6 clearances, 4 tackles, 1 goal
From the coach: Really impressive from a first-year player: his work-rate from contest to contest and into space was great, while he used the ball well. Around the stoppages, he won his own footy and the last two weeks have been encouraging.



80. Matthew Korcheck
Stats: 2 disposals, 13 hitouts
From the coach: Big Korcheck was good in the ruck, and he took a really strong mark up forward. He’ll keep splitting his time between the two positions. He continues to show glimpses.


Stuffed if I know Crash, but have a look at what Fraser had to say about him.
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: Pratty on April 19, 2017, 10:18:47 am
Jones playing as a Key Defender, and doing well. Who'd have thunk it....???

Gee, I called for this 2 years ago. Play him as a key defender I said. I got shot down on here by the unimaginative ones!  8)

Look, Liam Jones has some excellent tools in his kit bag - those being genuine power, pace, agility and a big leap. He has good size (height and body) and seemingly pretty good determination. Simply, cannot see why he has not been played as a Key defender at VFL level, then at AFL level. He is only 25 years old still for crying out loud! This year, he plays as Key Defender at VFL level and we at least get a good look at him in that role, before we cut him at seasons end. He aint going to make it at ADL level as a Key Forward IMO, so play him as a Key Defender. Nothing to lose.

IF, he does well as a key defender he'll be an asset as I think he's a very different type of 'tall' or KPP to those of Plowman, Weitering and Marchbank. More power and pace with Jones plus his spring.

Keep it up LJ. Exciting. Let's see how he goes each week now. KJ as a Key Defender makes sense too. Jones at FB and Jaksch at CHB.

Keep McKay, JGM and Kerr as the Key Forwards at VFL level for the time being.

No harm in giving this set up a go at VFL level I say!
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 19, 2017, 05:02:27 pm
Boekhorst's problem is winning his own ball and being accountable when defending...neither of that was mentioned.....I didnt see the game so I cant judge him but reading those comments tells me he isnt being considered for senior footy....fine tuning is a kind and  interesting description of where he needs to improve.. :)
Title: Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Post by: jeza on April 19, 2017, 05:25:18 pm
Jones playing as a Key Defender, and doing well. Who'd have thunk it....???

Gee, I called for this 2 years ago. Play him as a key defender I said. I got shot down on here by the unimaginative ones!  8)

Look, Liam Jones has some excellent tools in his kit bag - those being genuine power, pace, agility and a big leap. He has good size (height and body) and seemingly pretty good determination. Simply, cannot see why he has not been played as a Key defender at VFL level, then at AFL level. He is only 25 years old still for crying out loud! This year, he plays as Key Defender at VFL level and we at least get a good look at him in that role, before we cut him at seasons end. He aint going to make it at ADL level as a Key Forward IMO, so play him as a Key Defender. Nothing to lose.

IF, he does well as a key defender he'll be an asset as I think he's a very different type of 'tall' or KPP to those of Plowman, Weitering and Marchbank. More power and pace with Jones plus his spring.

Keep it up LJ. Exciting. Let's see how he goes each week now. KJ as a Key Defender makes sense too. Jones at FB and Jaksch at CHB.

Keep McKay, JGM and Kerr as the Key Forwards at VFL level for the time being.

No harm in giving this set up a go at VFL level I say!

I remember most people thinking this was a good idea. Started MM last year in defense but it didn't amount to much. I wouldn't get too excited about it.