We are being sold a significant amount of hope at the moment, if we we are patient!!
If we are to believe that we will be contenders in 5 years time (circa 20/21), there are 2 questions to ponder: who will win the next 5 premierships? Which of our greatest rivals (Richmond, Collingwood , Essendon) will win one.
Or in other words, do we have the correct strategy and structure in place to beat at least a couple of the sworn enemies (Ess, Coll, Rich) to the next premiership.
16: WCE, 17 WCE. 18 Bullies. 19. Collingwood 20: GWS. 21 Carlton.
Bad luck Tiger and Bombers!!!!
I've got a feeling WC, Freo and Sydney will all be hard to beat next year.
Hawks - maybe squeeze one more freakishly injury-free season out of their pensioner squad.
Cats recruiting looks pretty good on paper but they've also lost a lot of experience. They should be top 8 but I doubt top 4 which I see being mostly inter-state this year.
GWS are the ones I expect to come with a rush this year. Mind-bogglingly awesome squad - even post-Treloar.
Hawks are clearly the ones to beat next year IMO.
Hawks are clearly the ones to beat next year IMO.
Hard to argue with on this point. Then Wet Toast, Fluffy Ducks, Boat Anchors, and that is about it. The over grown Wallabies will always try hard but never make it, and the Doggies have only one flag in their trophy cabinet. Probably won't add to that soon, but could shake it up. I'm just not sure how the Kittens will do over the next few years with Danger in their squad. Just not sure.
Croweaters to be a smoky, and Brisbane have an impressive list of ins that shouldn't be overlooked.
Largely if it's not us I don't really care so long as it's not one of the hated clubs.
We win more games than last year
We win more games than last year
Significantly more!
Win about the same number of games and get hammered in plenty....we could also have the lowest percentage ever recorded given we lack goalkickers....
Win about the same number of games and get hammered in plenty....we could also have the lowest percentage ever recorded given we lack goalkickers....
x2 In true Carlton tradition, Bolton to be under huge pressure in year 2 even though there are no quick fixes. Lyon or Clarko to then take the reigns.
At least they'll take over when the team is at the bottom
x2 In true Carlton tradition, Bolton to be under huge pressure in year 2 even though there are no quick fixes. Lyon or Clarko to then take the reigns.
At least they'll take over when the team is at the bottom
You and me think same......Bolton will do the monkey work then I reckon Ross Lyon will take over given he is mates with SOS who now runs the footy dept and who the Prez seems to have entrusted
the rebuild to..
Next year out of Hawks (my pick) Freo Adel & WC with Coll as a smokey.
2017, Hawks will start to taper, WC Freo Adel will still be strong with Coll and GWS pushing hard.
Croweaters to be a smoky, and Brisbane have an impressive list of ins that shouldn't be overlooked.
Largely if it's not us I don't really care so long as it's not one of the hated clubs.
Bris will be as carp as us for a few years yet.
It's a guess with many final 8 places. Regular some side comes from the pits of the ladder to make the 8
You and me think same......Bolton will do the monkey work then I reckon Ross Lyon will take over given he is mates with SOS who now runs the footy dept and who the Prez seems to have entrusted
the rebuild to..
When will we learn
When will we learn
Exactly. I hope BB makes it impossible to be replaced.
Exactly. I hope BB makes it impossible to be replaced.
I hope he does, I don't want Ross Lyon as our senior coach.
Win about the same number of games and get hammered in plenty....we could also have the lowest percentage ever recorded given we lack goalkickers....
I know you were joking, but I wondered what it would take to do that.
St. Kilda had a completed season percentage of 23.22%.
So what would it take if we were say 5% worse than the worst attack of the last 20 years and we ended up with a percantage of 23.21%
It wasn't very pretty ;D
The lowest "For" score in the last 20 seasons was comfortably 1270 by GWS.
Even Fitzroy and Melbourne were over 1400 and when we got the spoons were were over 1600.
So if we were to bottom out and be 5% worse, we would score 1206 points for the season.
If we look at the against required to give our percent at 23.21% that would mean our opponents would kick 5196 points
That would mean our average game each week next year would be...
Carlton 8.7.55
Whoever 36.20.236
That would make for a very long season indeed ;D
The upside is the AFL might give us a special 4th round priority pick to help us out.
What's Carlton's worst percentage? I think we gave our worst for 20 years a shake last year...
Hard to see where our 8 goals per week are going to come from...
What's Carlton's worst percentage? I think we gave our worst for 20 years a shake last year...
Actually it was our worst for 115 years
Our worst ever is 46.99
Our worst 10 are
| Season | Percent |
| 2007 | 74.44 |
| 2006 | 74.16 |
| 2002 | 73.13 |
| 2003 | 66.72 |
| 2015 | 64.78 |
| 1900 | 63.07 |
| 1899 | 59.97 |
| 1897 | 51.02 |
| 1898 | 49.53 |
| 1901 | 46.99 |
Tough years 1897-1900. I'm sure there's some here who remember :P
Hard to see where our 8 goals per week are going to come from...
Well, we are starting by getting rid of the game plan and coach that didn't consider scoring as an important part of the game plan! ;)
Tough years 1897-1900. I'm sure there's some here who remember :P
Thanks god the Saints!!
The upside is the AFL might give us a special 4th round priority pick to help us out.
LOL, pay that !!
Hard to see where our 8 goals per week are going to come from...
We get the rebound out of defence and the mids working well and the goals will come.....our delivery into F50 has been so poor for so long it defies belief.
We get the rebound out of defence and the mids working well and the goals will come.....our delivery into F50 has been so poor for so long it defies belief.
The work rate of our mids has been below standard also. The mids hold the key, they need to work harder up and down the ground and defend better. What Cripps did last summer was build himself into the modern midfielder by improving his speed a little but with high endurance. Its what you do when you don't have the ball that counts also. We are good at getting it, but bad at getting it back via pressure and structures. If the mids allow easy ball out of the middle time and time again, the defenders are under too much pressure no matter who you have there. BB will address this I believe.
I don't fear the work rate from most of the players and especially the mids. I hold the coaches accountable to the work rate they will force onto the entire playing group, and expect a completely different attitude from our guys in 2015. They will want to work because they need to hold a place in the top 22. No more passengers.
I don't fear the work rate from most of the players and especially the mids. I hold the coaches accountable to the work rate they will force onto the entire playing group, and expect a completely different attitude from our guys in 2015. They will want to work because they need to hold a place in the top 22. No more passengers.
It's going to be very interesting to see who does and who doesn't survive BB's first year. Ikon Park I think is going to be a very different place from now on.
Tough years 1897-1900. I'm sure there's some here who remember :P
You forgot 1901 IOT. By golly that was a hard season to watch ;)
You forgot 1901 IOT. By golly that was a hard season to watch ;)
It probably was. But by 1906, things had changed to what we wanted. I wonder if it will take that long this time around?
It probably was. But by 1906, things had changed to what we wanted. I wonder if it will take that long this time around?
We rebuilt well after 1901...lol.
We win more games than last year
I didn't think it would be by Round 10!
Ha - the first page suggests BB will do the hard work then Ross Lyon will fly in and take over... what a difference 6 months makes eh?!